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stockcerts
Jan 12, 2009, 06:17 AM
How do you upgrade individual songs, as opposed to your entire library? I only see the option to do all of my music.

Thanks!



dukebound85
Jan 12, 2009, 06:19 AM
its either all or none

really sucks

ftaok
Jan 12, 2009, 07:33 AM
I'm not sure if this would work, and I can't check it right now since the Firewall blocks iTS.

Anyways, in theory, you could remove all of the DRM'd songs that you don't want updated from your iTunes library. That would leave only the DRM'd songs that you want updated.

Then go back into the iTS and see if the Update option is limited to the reduced number of songs.

After updating, go back and put the other DRM'd songs back into the library.

ft

NOTE - I take no responsibility if this doesn't work or causes someone to update more songs than desired or if this messes up someones iTunes library. Back-up before trying this.

Darth.Titan
Jan 12, 2009, 08:09 AM
I'm not sure if this would work, and I can't check it right now since the Firewall blocks iTS.

Anyways, in theory, you could remove all of the DRM'd songs that you don't want updated from your iTunes library. That would leave only the DRM'd songs that you want updated.

Then go back into the iTS and see if the Update option is limited to the reduced number of songs.

After updating, go back and put the other DRM'd songs back into the library.

ft

NOTE - I take no responsibility if this doesn't work or causes someone to update more songs than desired or if this messes up someones iTunes library. Back-up before trying this.

This has been mentioned a number of times as a possible workaround, but it does NOT work. The iTunes store bases your upgrades on your purchase history NOT what's currently in your library.

On the plus side, I had a few albums that I lost in a hard drive crash a while back that I never repurchased. I now have shiny new DRM free copies.

stockcerts
Jan 12, 2009, 09:26 AM
If it's all or nothing, I'll go with the nothing option. Bad move on Apple's part.

ftaok
Jan 12, 2009, 09:58 AM
If it's all or nothing, I'll go with the nothing option. Bad move on Apple's part.

Perhaps if enough folks send feedback to Apple asking for incremental updating to iTunesPlus, they'll implement it. Can't be too hard for them to add.

ft

chrisblore
Jan 12, 2009, 10:05 AM
Perhaps if enough folks send feedback to Apple asking for incremental updating to iTunesPlus, they'll implement it. Can't be too hard for them to add.

ft

I reckon it must have been something relating to their deal with the record labels. Quite why they would only want the "all or nothing" approach escapes me though as I'd have thought the majority of rational (or frugal :p ) people would take the nothing approach, especially where they have large libraries of purchased music.

ftaok
Jan 12, 2009, 10:13 AM
I reckon it must have been something relating to their deal with the record labels. Quite why they would only want the "all or nothing" approach escapes me though as I'd have thought the majority of rational (or frugal :p ) people would take the nothing approach, especially where they have large libraries of purchased music.

While it's entirely possible that the record companies are forcing the "all or nothing" approach, I disagree. Here's why (x2):

1. If the record companies had a say in the matter, I suspect they would tell Apple that users pay full price to upgrade, not the 30 cents (in the US).

2. I'm guessing that it's something that was just "forgotten". It's not the first time that Apple forgot something small and seemingly insignificant.

I will go on record and say that this issue gets resolved within 2 months. ;)

NATO
Jan 12, 2009, 12:21 PM
I've a track which has come up which I bought originally with it's DRM-infested-lies but I since went out and bought the CD and ripped it instead. Now iTunes wants me to buy the whole album again and I can't get rid of it from the Upgrade listing... yay \o/

Le Big Mac
Jan 12, 2009, 12:40 PM
While it's entirely possible that the record companies are forcing the "all or nothing" approach, I disagree. Here's why (x2):

1. If the record companies had a say in the matter, I suspect they would tell Apple that users pay full price to upgrade, not the 30 cents (in the US).

2. I'm guessing that it's something that was just "forgotten". It's not the first time that Apple forgot something small and seemingly insignificant.

I will go on record and say that this issue gets resolved within 2 months. ;)

I tend to take this view -- I'm not even sure it's been "forgotten" as opposed to simply "not yet rolled out". When did Apple strike the deal with the record cos.? Probably not too long ago. To put the fix in, they probably would have to update either iTunes or iTMS (some sort of check box to upgrade/not upgrade), and didn't have a chance to do it.

Or perhaps they were lazy, and a bunch of bitchin' will get them to fix it.

nottooshabby
Jan 13, 2009, 06:37 PM
You would think eventually they will give away the upgrades so they can shut down their DRM servers....

MacNoobie
Jan 14, 2009, 12:43 AM
I was wondering if this would be grounds for legal action for offering now DRM free music & denying past users that have paid the $.99 to re-download DRM free versions of the same songs they'd already invested in.

I'm actually kind of pissed that I've wanted DRM free music (partly because of the higher quality and partly because I can use those to make ringtones for my iphone) and theres no way other then repurchasing the same songs to get the DRM free music.

Personally I kinda feel like this would spur up more illegal downloads with people that feel kind of ripped off now.

iParis
Jan 14, 2009, 12:48 AM
I wish you could update individual ones. I don't listen to some of the ones it's trying to get me to upgrade.

emt1
Jan 14, 2009, 09:15 AM
Some of you people are ridiculous. Do you expect Honda to send you a new Honda Civic when they upgrade them? Do you expect Apple to send you a new MacBook Pro when they upgrade them?

No!

You knew what you were buying when you bought it. There was nothing that said "hey we'll upgrade it for free when that time comes!"

You knew the price.
You knew what you were getting.

So stop complaining.


Also, if you want to upgrade only certain songs, then just rebuy the song. It's not hard. It's 99 cents. If you can't afford it get a better job.

MacWeenie
Jan 14, 2009, 01:31 PM
Some of you people are ridiculous. Do you expect Honda to send you a new Honda Civic when they upgrade them? Do you expect Apple to send you a new MacBook Pro when they upgrade them?

No!

You knew what you were buying when you bought it. There was nothing that said "hey we'll upgrade it for free when that time comes!"

You knew the price.
You knew what you were getting.

So stop complaining.


Also, if you want to upgrade only certain songs, then just rebuy the song. It's not hard. It's 99 cents. If you can't afford it get a better job.

What's rediculous is having to pay for a song twice. When I first bought the song, I expected to pay .99. Now the thing will end up costing me 1.29.
Also, as many have shared, I don't get to choose which onces I update? I have several songs that were Starbucks freebies or came from other means than me paying for them. Some of them are worthless to me. Last thing I want to do is update them.

And yes, I have a decent job and can afford iTunes plus if I wanted to. But I can't swallow the current iTunes plus screw job.

The amount I need to pay to go to 1/2 iTunes plus (about 1/2 of my libarary is available to upagred) is ~$70. (So in the futute I may need to cough up another ~$70 to fully convert to iTunes plus. Aaargh.) Rather than pay Apple twice, I'm going to see if I can update the songs I want at Amazon and compare that cost with the cost of going with iTunes plus. If Apple wants my business they can provide a product that meets my needs.

When it's all said and done, I may eventually do the iTUnes plus update. But for now the idea leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

emt1
Jan 14, 2009, 02:13 PM
What's rediculous is having to pay for a song twice. When I first bought the song, I expected to pay .99. Now the thing will end up costing me 1.29.
Also, as many have shared, I don't get to choose which onces I update? I have several songs that were Starbucks freebies or came from other means than me paying for them. Some of them are worthless to me. Last thing I want to do is update them.

And yes, I have a decent job and can afford iTunes plus if I wanted to. But I can't swallow the current iTunes plus screw job.

The amount I need to pay to go to 1/2 iTunes plus (about 1/2 of my libarary is available to upagred) is ~$70. (So in the futute I may need to cough up another ~$70 to fully convert to iTunes plus. Aaargh.) Rather than pay Apple twice, I'm going to see if I can update the songs I want at Amazon and compare that cost with the cost of going with iTunes plus. If Apple wants my business they can provide a product that meets my needs.

When it's all said and done, I may eventually do the iTUnes plus update. But for now the idea leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Nobody is forcing you to do anything. You knew what you were buying and there was no agreement that free (or even discounted) upgrades would be offered. Apple does not even have to offer these upgrades at 30% of the original price. If you are so unhappy with your DRM-protected files, then why did you buy them in the first place?