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spyker3292
Jan 13, 2009, 06:50 AM
I haven't tried it yet, but Slacker radio was released today.

http://appshopper.com/music/slacker-radio



jalpert
Jan 13, 2009, 07:40 AM
This app is the real deal. If you've ever opened Pandora or Last.FM give this a shot. Go to the website, create your custom station and enjoy having a ton of control over your music. Pandora does a great job selecting songs for you, but this puts more control in your hands.

Audio quality and buffer times are fantastic over 3G and edge. Just a great App all around!

Dorfdad
Jan 13, 2009, 08:14 AM
while Im impressed at the speed of the connections the problem is your only allowed 6 skips per hour and they force commercials every few songs.

I hate that if I setup a channel and they play the wrong songs I can only skip 6...

jalpert
Jan 13, 2009, 08:39 AM
while Im impressed at the speed of the connections the problem is your only allowed 6 skips per hour and they force commercials every few songs.

I hate that if I setup a channel and they play the wrong songs I can only skip 6...

I agree, nobody likes commercials and nobody likes limitations. Your first option would be to pay the $4 and go premium, but nobody likes to pay money either :-)

In a short amount of time your problem will take care of itself. You setup your custom station and I'm assuming you turned off discovery, it's only playing songs from the bands you told it to. All bands have bad songs, some bands have bad albums, that's why you can ban a track. For a little bit it might suck, every time you ban you get charged a skip. But, after a short while, you'll get all those horrible songs banned and you'll be left with nothing but good ones. It does take a little patience though.

In terms of commercials, right now it's about 45 seconds per hour. Not too much you can do about that, except pay the $4 which is WELL worth it.

iSaga
Jan 13, 2009, 09:23 AM
No service outside the US, very disappointing.

KRAPPS
Jan 13, 2009, 12:33 PM
Audio quality and buffer times are fantastic over 3G and edge. Just a great App all around!

Been waiting for this one ... geez, took them long enough :D

Great to hear sound quality and buffer times are good over 3G and Edge ... in my experience, this has been the #1 problem - long buffers, freezes, dropouts, etc ... can't wait to try it out tonight.

nagromme
Jan 13, 2009, 02:17 PM
I have room for more than one radio app on my iPhone--but it will be hard to get me away from Pandora as the main one! (FYI, Pandora's are tiny banner graphics which you can hide for free. No audio ads. Same 6-skips-per-hour limit, but you can freely change--or create--stations, so even after 6 skips you're not stuck. And I find Pandora can create such good stations that I don't skip much anyway.)

SFStateStudent
Jan 13, 2009, 02:49 PM
Nice app, but Pandora is preferable...

matasar
Jan 13, 2009, 04:07 PM
Is there any possible reason to use this over Pandora? I'm interested in neither listening to adds nor to paying a (small, admittedly) monthly fee if I don't need to. Thoughts?

earthsick
Jan 13, 2009, 04:24 PM
figures...i just got a slacker g2 portable for christmas
eh, i think i would still prefer the g2 over an iphone app any way...dont feel like draining my battery all day at work

and to all those asking why use this over pandora...from my own personal experience, i have discovered FAR more great new artists from slacker than i ever did with pandora. slacker is a far more complete experience that gives you more control and more of a radio experience. its everything satellite radio was meant to be but isnt

hexonxonx
Jan 13, 2009, 04:31 PM
Commercials are what is stopping me from installing this. I hate commercials and this is the reason I am looking forward to the XM/Sirius app.

earthsick
Jan 13, 2009, 04:42 PM
Commercials are what is stopping me from installing this. I hate commercials and this is the reason I am looking forward to the XM/Sirius app.

the commercials are not really very frequent or obtrusive, just do yourself a favor and give it a shot

and as a long time XM subscriber, let me tell you that this is infinitely better programming, with or without commercials. besides, i would not hold my breath on a sirius xm app

websyndicate
Jan 13, 2009, 05:37 PM
I have using this app since I saw this post late morning and I really like it. The music is good and I did sign up the the 7 day free premium trial. So far I cant tell if its repetitive as Pandora.

exhibit.b
Jan 13, 2009, 07:27 PM
the commercials are not really very frequent or obtrusive, just do yourself a favor and give it a shot

and as a long time XM subscriber, let me tell you that this is infinitely better programming, with or without commercials. besides, i would not hold my breath on a sirius xm app


http://starplayr.com/

jalpert
Jan 13, 2009, 09:27 PM
Commercials are what is stopping me from installing this. I hate commercials and this is the reason I am looking forward to the XM/Sirius app.

Give the premium a shot. At $4 a month is a bargain compared to XM. Not only do you not have to listen to idiotic DJ's but you can choose the artists you want to listen to and skip songs on demand.

Rayfire
Jan 13, 2009, 09:52 PM
What exactly are the differences between this app compared to the other apps out there, mainly Pandora? I ran both, so far I only noticed/heard commercials on Slacker (except when you buy the full version)

EDIT:
Tried the 7 day free trial, it works nice.

jalpert
Jan 14, 2009, 07:37 AM
What exactly are the differences between this app compared to the other apps out there, mainly Pandora? I ran both, so far I only noticed/heard commercials on Slacker (except when you buy the full version)

EDIT:
Tried the 7 day free trial, it works nice.

Things you CANNOT do with Pandora:
1.) Create a station with 15 or more artists then hear music ONLY from those artists
2.) I think the screenshot below will speak for itself:
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/12894/photo-1.jpg

As you can see it's all about control. Give Pandora a song (or a few) and it'll play things you like. With slacker, you tell it exactly what you like and it gives you exactly that.

Because you can do so much customization, 6 song skips go a LOT further than Pandora because odds are greater you want to hear the song.

Yes, there are 45 seconds of commercials per hour, just something to deal with for 59 minutes and 15 seconds worth of exactly what you want to hear. I hate commercials too, but Last.FM is CBS and sounds like crap, Pandora has been hanging on by the skin of their teeth for some time now, these guys gotta do something to stick around. 45 seconds is so little, and $4/mo is so little.

earthsick
Jan 14, 2009, 08:03 AM
http://starplayr.com/

I should have been more clear. i dont expect Sirius XM to license such an app and make it available on the app store. The iPhone is considered as competition to them. jailbreaking is another story and i believe there has been a player available for a while now.

KRAPPS
Jan 14, 2009, 09:36 AM
Things you CANNOT do with Pandora:
1.)Create a station 15 or more artists then hear music ONLY from those artists
2.) I think the screenshot below will speak for itself:
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/12894/photo-1.jpg

As you can see it's all about control. Give Pandora a song (or a few) and it'll play things you like. With slacker, you tell it exactly what you like and it gives you exactly that.

Because you can do so much customization, 6 song skips go a LOT further than Pandora because odds are greater you want to hear the song.

Yes, there are 45 seconds of commercials per hour, just something to deal with for 59 minutes and 15 seconds worth of exactly what you want to hear. I hate commercials too, but Last.FM is CBS and sounds like crap, Pandora has been hanging on by the skin of their teeth for some time now, these guys gotta do something to stick around. 45 seconds is so little, and $4/mo is so little.

Great info as this question comes up a lot ... the screen shot really helps - nicely done!

sishaw
Jan 14, 2009, 12:36 PM
i dont expect Sirius XM to license such an app and make it available on the app store. The iPhone is considered as competition to them. jailbreaking is another story and i believe there has been a player available for a while now.

Huh. If iPhone's their competition, it must suck to be them.

I've been listening to Slacker for at least an hour--a little more, I think--and not only am I enjoying their playlists (alternative and jazz), I've only had one commercial.

aandf1978
Jan 14, 2009, 12:47 PM
This app is awesome!!! Now if we can only get our Sirius/XM app out the iPhone would become complete!!

earthsick
Jan 14, 2009, 12:52 PM
Huh. If iPhone's their competition, it must suck to be them.

If the iPhone was their ONLY competition they would be fine, but every digital media player is their competition. And yes, it does suck to be them when Sirius XM stock is currently trading at about 13 cents a share.

Rayfire
Jan 14, 2009, 01:45 PM
Things you CANNOT do with Pandora:
1.) Create a station with 15 or more artists then hear music ONLY from those artists
2.) I think the screenshot below will speak for itself:
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/12894/photo-1.jpg

As you can see it's all about control. Give Pandora a song (or a few) and it'll play things you like. With slacker, you tell it exactly what you like and it gives you exactly that.

Because you can do so much customization, 6 song skips go a LOT further than Pandora because odds are greater you want to hear the song.

Yes, there are 45 seconds of commercials per hour, just something to deal with for 59 minutes and 15 seconds worth of exactly what you want to hear. I hate commercials too, but Last.FM is CBS and sounds like crap, Pandora has been hanging on by the skin of their teeth for some time now, these guys gotta do something to stick around. 45 seconds is so little, and $4/mo is so little.

Thanks for explaining that. I had to fiddle with Slacker more to find that the Fine Tune can be located by pressing the arrow beside the station name. Impressive.

jalpert
Jan 14, 2009, 02:05 PM
Thanks for explaining that. I had to fiddle with Slacker more to find that the Fine Tune can be located by pressing the arrow beside the station name. Impressive.

No problem. Just keep in mind that even though Slacker has millions of songs, if your artists are obscure and you fine tune too much you might hear repeats and have shallow play lists. Play around with everything, it's a lot of fun, but it might take some patience to get that perfect station. Once you get 1 perfect station, it's entirely worth it and it makes programming subsequent stations much easier once you figure out how the service reacts to the tuning.

Also, keep in mind that there is no limit to the amount of custom stations you can have.

One more point. You can always load one of their stations that you like, then save it as a custom. You can delete but not add artists to pre programmed stations. Save it as a custom, use their stations as an outline so to speak and customize your a** off.

uva25
Jan 15, 2009, 07:25 AM
No problem. Just keep in mind that even though Slacker has millions of songs, if your artists are obscure and you fine tune too much you might hear repeats and have shallow play lists. Play around with everything, it's a lot of fun, but it might take some patience to get that perfect station. Once you get 1 perfect station, it's entirely worth it and it makes programming subsequent stations much easier once you figure out how the service reacts to the tuning.

Also, keep in mind that there is no limit to the amount of custom stations you can have.

One more point. You can always load one of their stations that you like, then save it as a custom. You can delete but not add artists to pre programmed stations. Save it as a custom, use their stations as an outline so to speak and customize your a** off.
I LOVE this app but have a few questions. I see that you can fine tune on the app but don't see where you can add artists to a station that you just created...or add favorite songs to the new station like you can on the web site. I assume I am not missing something on the app? Also, what does the heart do. Does it tag the artist as a favorite or the song or both. Also, when I type in an artist to start a channel, I don't see the fine tune options coming up. Previously created stations show all the fine tune options so I think it has to do with saving and naming a new artist which I don't see on the app. Sorry for the long list of questions but Slacker seems to have the most potential of all and I want to make sure I am not missing something. Thanks.

jalpert
Jan 15, 2009, 07:39 AM
I LOVE this app but have a few questions. I see that you can fine tune on the app but don't see where you can add artists to a station that you just created...or add favorite songs to the new station like you can on the web site. I assume I am not missing something on the app? Also, what does the heart do. Does it tag the artist as a favorite or the song or both. Also, when I type in an artist to start a channel, I don't see the fine tune options coming up. Previously created stations show all the fine tune options so I think it has to do with saving and naming a new artist which I don't see on the app. Sorry for the long list of questions but Slacker seems to have the most potential of all and I want to make sure I am not missing something. Thanks.

1.) You are correct. Right now you can fine tune stations on the iPhone, but you are not able to add or remove artists, you need to go to the web for that

2.) Once you "heart" a song you mark it as a favorite, and exactly what that does is up to you. You can choose to play hearted songs no more than others, play hearted songs a lot more often, play them a little more often, I think you get the gist. Only the song is marked as a favorite, not the artist.

3.) When you type in an artist, and create an artists station from the iPhone fine tune settings are not coming up. They should, this is a bug in the program, I'm hoping they get 1.01 out quickly, I'm very sure they will but Apple can be slow.

I hope this clears things up! BTW, I am just interested and have been following slacker for a while. I don't work, or get paid or anything by them, just a fan :-)

uva25
Jan 15, 2009, 12:11 PM
1.) You are correct. Right now you can fine tune stations on the iPhone, but you are not able to add or remove artists, you need to go to the web for that

2.) Once you "heart" a song you mark it as a favorite, and exactly what that does is up to you. You can choose to play hearted songs no more than others, play hearted songs a lot more often, play them a little more often, I think you get the gist. Only the song is marked as a favorite, not the artist.

3.) When you type in an artist, and create an artists station from the iPhone fine tune settings are not coming up. They should, this is a bug in the program, I'm hoping they get 1.01 out quickly, I'm very sure they will but Apple can be slow.

I hope this clears things up! BTW, I am just interested and have been following slacker for a while. I don't work, or get paid or anything by them, just a fan :-)
Thanks for the info. Hopefully updates will let you add artists to a station. Great app though. What do you normally use for your finetune settings. I'm not quite sure what "auto" does. I also want at least "some" new artists suggested but I'm not sure what "auto" does as well as the "dj".

finalcut
Jan 15, 2009, 12:34 PM
ah well, another app of this kind only for usa :/
Extremely disapointing

jalpert
Jan 15, 2009, 02:39 PM
Thanks for the info. Hopefully updates will let you add artists to a station. Great app though. What do you normally use for your finetune settings. I'm not quite sure what "auto" does. I also want at least "some" new artists suggested but I'm not sure what "auto" does as well as the "dj".

1.) In terms of my fine tune settings, it changes depending on the station. I think the larger the station, the better luck you will have with fine tuning.

2.) Auto is just another word for default. In terms of how often you play favorites, if you set it to Auto, it will select for you. I'm not sure what the defaults are. If you set new artists to auto, I think it gives you a few artist discovery tracks but not very many. Don't quote me on that though

3.) The DJ is heard on certain pre-programmed stations. I've never heard the DJ, I stick to only custom stations so I can't be much of a help about this.

bprough
Jan 15, 2009, 03:54 PM
Ok kind bummed out earlier as I went to log in at work and couldn't because it said something about having to log in to webased app to clear a hold. Only my work has the webpage blocked and had to wait. Has this happened to anyone else and why? as it didn't say anything when i logged in online.

Now to the good thing I love this and just created 4 stations can't wait to see how well they work with playing only music i like. This is def looking like the app that will replace all my other streaming music apps and only be second to the siruis app when it comes out (only because of the talk radio i will be able to listen to then)

Thank you for such a cool little application

jalpert
Jan 16, 2009, 03:00 PM
1.0.1 is out already. It showed up on my phone, but not in iTunes. I'm sure this addresses many of the bugs people have been having. Does anyone have a change log?

Cyclotrode
Jan 16, 2009, 05:02 PM
1.0.1 is out already. It showed up on my phone, but not in iTunes. I'm sure this addresses many of the bugs people have been having. Does anyone have a change log?

Here you go:

WHAT'S NEW IN THIS VERSION:
* A toggle has been added to the settings screen to turn off the iPhone's sleep mode when not connected to a power source.
* Fine Tune controls and station descriptions now appear on artist or song-based stations.

Fixes:
* General audio and stability improvements.