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Chundles
Jan 22, 2009, 12:35 AM
Have a look, on the US iTunes store there is a song called "Life would suck without..." by Kelly Clarkson. I don't know the full name because I can't be stuffed clicking on it. Dennis Leary also has something called "Why we Suck."

On both of these tracks the word "suck" is censored as "S**k" the same as "******" is on most things.

Only on the US store though, the Aussie store is there in all it's glory but then you can put "*********" on the front page of our national papers uncensored so it's no big deal.

Any comments? Political correctness gone too far? I think so.



ezekielrage_99
Jan 22, 2009, 12:52 AM
Why am I tempted to post

"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!"

On the iTunes store on the Simpsons page :confused:

Gyrferret
Jan 22, 2009, 01:03 AM
Perhaps it's just apple being precautious because of the use of the word in the title of a song. And maybe there's a parent out there that sues apple for exposing their child to the word prematurely....

ya' never know....

Chundles
Jan 22, 2009, 01:10 AM
Perhaps it's just apple being precautious because of the use of the word in the title of a song. And maybe there's a parent out there that sues apple for exposing their child to the word prematurely....

ya' never know....


Nope, even in the US where apparently it's never someone's own fault something happens, it's always the other person's and you should always sue them, the idea that the word "suck" is offensive is preposterous.

Next they'll be giving the asterix treatment to the words "job" and "hole" and "crevice" etc.

I just don't understand it but then we can show any Gordon Ramsey show uncensored as long as it starts after 9:30pm. I don't think you can do that in the Puritanical States of America.

OK, that was a bit harsh...

EricNau
Jan 22, 2009, 01:20 AM
Well, that s**ks.


EDIT: ...What? MacRumors is censoring it too?! :mad:



:p

Michael CM1
Jan 22, 2009, 03:17 AM
Nope, even in the US where apparently it's never someone's own fault something happens, it's always the other person's and you should always sue them, the idea that the word "suck" is offensive is preposterous.

Next they'll be giving the asterix treatment to the words "job" and "hole" and "crevice" etc.

I just don't understand it but then we can show any Gordon Ramsey show uncensored as long as it starts after 9:30pm. I don't think you can do that in the Puritanical States of America.

OK, that was a bit harsh...

First of all, you stole my thunder on this since I posted on it last night. But I digress! :)

I found it odd that "Suck" was censored in Kelly Clarkson's song title while "Hell" wasn't in the All-American Rejects song that is No. 2 on the list. What the suck?

Yes, some sucky parent would probably sue, even though it's their responsibility what suck their kids can see. We can show war on the news, but don't let the kids hear a bad word!!!!! Also, I've never figured out what you can say "god" and "damn" but not those two back-to-back. Same goes with "ass" and "hole." What the suck?

Speaking of censorship, I can't stand these stupid edited versions of music videos. I would like to buy Fall Out Boy's "This Ain't A Scene, It's an Arms Race," but only the clean version is available. If some crappy rapper can sing about jazz or whatever in his pants, can we not get uncut music videos?

svndmvn
Jan 22, 2009, 03:55 AM
http://www.apple.com/startpage/
this is my home page and it's not censored there, I clicked on the song's name and my itunes store doesn't censor it either.

Michael CM1
Jan 22, 2009, 04:22 AM
http://www.apple.com/startpage/
this is my home page and it's not censored there, I clicked on the song's name and my itunes store doesn't censor it either.

The Web site doesn't censor it, but the iTunes Store does. Sounds like some shady non-censoring deal you Italians have going on. That sucks.

Kebabselector
Jan 22, 2009, 04:26 AM
The poor people who live in S****horpe are used to forums/web sites censoring it's name.

Padraig
Jan 22, 2009, 07:44 AM
Have a look, on the US iTunes store there is a song called "Life would suck without..." by Kelly Clarkson. I don't know the full name because I can't be stuffed clicking on it. Dennis Leary also has something called "Why we Suck."

On both of these tracks the word "suck" is censored as "S**k" the same as "******" is on most things.

Only on the US store though, the Aussie store is there in all it's glory but then you can put "*********" on the front page of our national papers uncensored so it's no big deal.

Any comments? Political correctness gone too far? I think so.

Really? I'd have thought Australia was far more draconian in it's censorship given the amount of games that are banned/toned down and the recent trials for a national net filter.

gkarris
Jan 22, 2009, 10:14 AM
I used to used that word a lot but in some circles, I guess people find it offensive - as I *think* it's meaning stems from the Adult Industry.... :eek:

GSMiller
Jan 22, 2009, 11:03 AM
That blows.

dejo
Jan 22, 2009, 11:12 AM
Nope, even in the US where apparently it's never someone's own fault something happens, it's always the other person's...
Meanwhile, back at the ranch:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=637734

scotty96LSC
Jan 22, 2009, 11:55 AM
That inhales.

swiftaw
Jan 22, 2009, 11:57 AM
Funny, in the Top Songs list it's not censored.

Gasu E.
Jan 22, 2009, 12:42 PM
And maybe there's a parent out there that sues apple for exposing their child to the word prematurely....


Ironic, considering that "sucking" is one of the first things a child does.

but then you can put "*********" on the front page of our national papers .

Sadly, I find that true for American newspapers as well; most of what is put on the front page is "*********".

zephead
Jan 22, 2009, 01:22 PM
I first noticed that probably about a year ago - there's a South Park episode named "Summer Sucks", with it changed to "s***s". I figured they were just going with "better safe than sorry" because it was South Park, but if they censor "sucks" everywhere else, and "hell" isn't censored (though I'm fine with that), then there's definitely something sucky going on.

Tom B.
Jan 22, 2009, 02:47 PM
Maybe it's a 'database glitch' like iTunes UK had a couple of months ago:

Thanks to a *********g stupid error, the iTunes Music Store in the UK has accidentally censored thousands of songs, albums, and artists' names. Innocent songs—like Danny Kaye's "I Thought I Saw A P***y Cat"—and not-so-innocent ones—like Nirvana's "Smells Like T**n Spirit"—have been asterisked by what an Apple spokeswoman has described as a "database glitch". Why "teen", "hot" or "Johnny" can be considered offensive, I really don't have a flying ******, but things look rather silly in there:
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2008/10/censorship-stupidness.jpg
Yeah, definitely looks ****ed up to me. Oops.

According to Apple UK, the problem happened when they tried to censor potentially offensive words, and here is precisely where I get lost, because they were looking for "teen", "hot" or "Johnny". Hello? I understand a database glitch leading to innocent songs to be censored, but that word selection? For sure, the dick and the dyke in "D**k Van D**e" can be considered offensive by some, but the Johnny in "J****y Cash" or the hot in Avril Lavigne's "H*t"?

Seems to me like a level of idiotic politically correct censorship that not even the FCC will apply here in the United States. [BBC News] (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7688705.stm)

NotAnotherSN
Jan 22, 2009, 04:02 PM
I saw a while ago a podcast for abridged childrens versions of classic novels. Amongst them was "Moby D**k."

paulej69
Jan 22, 2009, 05:05 PM
Really? I'd have thought Australia was far more draconian in it's censorship given the amount of games that are banned/toned down and the recent trials for a national net filter.

No, Australia is pretty free and easy when it comes to showing boobs and swearwords on TV (after a certain hour).

The videogame debacle is due to ONE state Attorney-General (looking at you, South Australia) who refuses to allow an 18+ (R) classification for games - the law requires agreement of all state attorneys-general before classifications can be changed. Sucks.

As for the net filter - it won't happen - there has already been a massive backlash against it, with very little public support for what will block an unspecified number of unspecified websites - no one here trusts the government to decide what we should and shouldn't see.

ChrisN
Jan 22, 2009, 07:07 PM
Yeah i saw that and I thought it was ****** at first but then I saw the k...

ChrisN

mkrishnan
Jan 22, 2009, 07:11 PM
I saw a while ago a podcast for abridged childrens versions of classic novels. Amongst them was "Moby D**k."

This would allow for the very appropriate complaint letter:

Dear sir or madam,

S**k my Moby D**k.

Gyrferret
Jan 22, 2009, 07:43 PM
Ironic, considering that "sucking" is one of the first things a child does.

Ironic indeed, as people s**king leads to children sometimes.

But, again, it's all about use. Like the episode of Southpark, where ****** is made uncensored.

I stepped in ******: :D

Mike's a piece of ******: :(

QCassidy352
Jan 22, 2009, 08:45 PM
Why am I tempted to post

"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!"

haha, thanks for that.

Michael CM1
Jan 23, 2009, 02:05 AM
For those who care, it's no longer censored on the iTunes store. I guess Apple sucked it up and unbleeped the song title. :D