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Jan 27, 2009, 02:35 AM
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iMovie HD 6, previously available as a free download for iLife '08 users, has been removed from Apple's site.

The application, which had been part of the iLife '06 suite, was made available (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/08/08/imovie-6-hd-available-for-download/) in response to public outcry (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/08/14/imovie-08-transition-pains/) after a complete rewrite of the application as iMovie '08 resulted in the loss of a number of features that users had come to rely on. iMovie HD 6 was available through Apple's site to users with a valid iLife '08 installation for nearly a year and a half, but has disappeared in a move presumably related to the arrival of iLife '09 (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/26/apple-ilife-09-available-at-best-buy-today-apple-stores-tomorrow/). The new iLife suite includes iMovie '09, a significant update (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/06/apple-announces-ilife-09/) to the much-criticized iMovie '08.

Article Link: iMovie HD 6 No Longer Available For Download (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/27/imovie-hd-6-no-longer-available-for-download/)



simX
Jan 27, 2009, 02:58 AM
Actually, no, iMovie HD 6 was not made available due to "public outcry". Apple made it available the day they released iLife '08. Apple already knew that people might not like the then-newest version of iMovie.

BVGuitarPlayer
Jan 27, 2009, 03:07 AM
iMovie HD 6 is the only way to go if you do not have the awesomeness of Premier or Final Cut. Forget the new crap.

dansgil
Jan 27, 2009, 03:14 AM
For those of you who still want to download it iMovie HD 6, it's available for download here (http://download.info.apple.com/Mac_OS_X/061-3532.20070807.nq3ER/iMovieHD6.dmg), but I doubt it'll be there much longer.

Download it while you can!

SnowLeopard2008
Jan 27, 2009, 03:16 AM
Good thing I saved a copy on my external HD.

SFStateStudent
Jan 27, 2009, 03:20 AM
I made the switch to FCP 4.5 HD and I've never looked back at iMovie anything. I'll try the HD 6 download...

Moriarty
Jan 27, 2009, 04:23 AM
No longer available for download... from Apple's website.

There will always be other websites hosting that sort of thing for a long time to come, I'm sure.

MacsRgr8
Jan 27, 2009, 06:16 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/27/imovie-hd-6-no-longer-available-for-download/)

iMovie HD 6, previously available as a free download for iLife '08 users, has been removed from Apple's site.


SO, it is still there (like dansgil) has pointed out, but it just isn't so easy to find anymore, as now everything points to iLife '09.

bearda
Jan 27, 2009, 06:28 AM
I through iMovie 6 HD was available because the '08 flat-out would not run on many machines otherwise support by iLife (like G4s).

kornyboy
Jan 27, 2009, 07:07 AM
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I figured that this was coming. Apple did add many of the features that the new iMovie was missing back. I still prefer FCP though.

danvan21
Jan 27, 2009, 08:26 AM
For those of you who still want to download it iMovie HD 6, it's available for download here (http://download.info.apple.com/Mac_OS_X/061-3532.20070807.nq3ER/iMovieHD6.dmg), but I doubt it'll be there much longer.

Download it while you can!

thanks

jayducharme
Jan 27, 2009, 08:47 AM
I'm glad I grabbed iMovie 6 when I did. I was shocked at how bad iMovie 8 is. And the new version looks like a marginal improvement at best. I guess I'm too used to editing through a timeline, and without it I get really frustrated. I mean, video is a linear medium. It just doesn't make any visual sense to me to have to edit in rows.

WildCowboy
Jan 27, 2009, 09:26 AM
Actually, no, iMovie HD 6 was not made available due to "public outcry". Apple made it available the day they released iLife '08. Apple already knew that people might not like the then-newest version of iMovie.

Actually, they released it more than 24 hours after they announced immediate availability of iLife '08. They may very well have been prepared to do it, but they didn't do it until feedback started pouring in.

SimonMW
Jan 27, 2009, 10:33 AM
I don't think it is a case of iMovie 08 being rubbish. It is a case of people who really should buy a more professional app wanting something for free and complaining when Apple make it so that it is easier to use for the people that the application is actually aimed at, ie soccer mum and dads who wouldn't know an in point from an out point.

angemon89
Jan 27, 2009, 10:54 AM
Thank god it's still available! I was going to download it this Friday when I got my Mac Mini that I purchased from the MR Marketplace. You scared me there for a second, Eric.

batchtaster
Jan 27, 2009, 10:54 AM
iMovie 08 + iMovie HD 6 was a transition arrangement due to the complete ground-up rewrite; Apple said as much when they released it, along with a warning that iMovie HD 6 would not be maintained.

I'd say it's a good sign that Apple are confident that iMovie 09 is good enough to replace both versions. And frankly, the sheer unparalleled boredom of the complaining people did about iMovie 08 - you'd hardly think Apple were unaware of it or would not do something about it. If only to shut people up.

I do hope people actually do try iMovie 09 before they insist on reinstalling iMovie HD 6...

BTW, for the record, iLife 08 came out on August 7, 2007 (http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/08/07/ilife08/index.php). iMovie HD 6 came out August 9, 2007 (http://www.macworld.com/article/59414/2007/08/imoviehd.html). Even Apple doesn't put out an update like that, that quick (it was updated from 6.0.3 to 6.0.4 to incorporate support for the other iLife 08 apps).

themanfromvlad
Jan 27, 2009, 11:00 AM
I don't think it is a case of iMovie 08 being rubbish. It is a case of people who really should buy a more professional app wanting something for free and complaining when Apple make it so that it is easier to use for the people that the application is actually aimed at, ie soccer mum and dads who wouldn't know an in point from an out point.

Respectfully, I think you're dead wrong here. iMovie is nowhere near a professional video editing app. It was a perfect app for those so-called "soccer mums and dads" you mentioned. I use Final Cut several times a week, but when I need to bang something out for YouTube and add a few cheesy effects, I use iMovie06. It's perfect for that. If you think people should have to spend hundreds of dollars on Final Cut Express to accomplish those basic tasks, you're out to lunch. And for the record people PAY for iLife, it costs $80. It isn't free.

AnthonyKinyon
Jan 27, 2009, 11:01 AM
http://mac.majorgeeks.com/download5754.html

Download still works.

clmason
Jan 27, 2009, 11:09 AM
If you need it, the direct link is still working, grab it while it lasts:

http://supportdownload.apple.com/download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/Mac_OS_X/downloads/061-3532.20070807.nq3ER/iMovieHD6.dmg

zathras
Jan 27, 2009, 11:12 AM
Thanks for the link - grabbed so I can have a backup!

Snowy_River
Jan 27, 2009, 11:28 AM
Apparently, I'm in a minority, but I welcomed the change to the new iMovie. While the temporary loss of certain effects was irritating, I found it much less irritating than the continual crashing and losing of work that I was constantly experiencing with the old iMovie. I can't tell you how many times I had to recreate hours of work because iMovie crashed and when I relaunched it either didn't remember where I had been (i.e. clips were just missing), or various effects and clips were completely corrupted and had to be deleted and reimported. One of the most annoying was the creeping corruption that would move to the next clip/effect as soon as I deleted the corrupted clip/effect. In those cases I had to scrap the entire project and start from scratch.

To date, I've had no crashing or corruption problems with iMovie 08, and I'm looking forward to the revamped iMovie 09, which should arrive today.

To be fair, I acknowledge that the new interface has taken some getting use to, but compared to the old problems, that's nothing. It's just learning curve.

SimonMW
Jan 27, 2009, 12:04 PM
Have any of you seen this demo?
http://tecnotur.us/Randy/Randy_Ubillos-iMovie_09.html

Looks like 09 should accomplish most things people want in a basic editor to me.

simX
Jan 27, 2009, 12:12 PM
Actually, they released it more than 24 hours after they announced immediate availability of iLife '08. They may very well have been prepared to do it, but they didn't do it until feedback started pouring in.

*sigh* No, actually, that is *not* the case.

Fact: iLife '08 was released on August 7th, 2007: http://www.macrumors.com/2007/08/07/august-7th-updates-imacs-ilife-08-iwork-08-mac-mini-and-more/

Fact: iMovie 6 HD download was *also* released August 7th, 2007: http://www.macrumors.com/2007/08/08/imovie-6-hd-available-for-download/

kingtj
Jan 27, 2009, 12:15 PM
I agree that iMovie '08 wasn't "good" ... but my big complaint was the removal of the abiility to use 3rd. party plug-ins that really added to its potential. (The f/x from GeeThree gave iMovie everything from professional titling to MANY more transitions and dissolves to the ability to work with blue screen backdrops.)

The editing through a timeline, though? I preferred that too, but I'm starting to realize that it depends on one's approach. If you think of it like music creation, for example? Some people like working with "loops" - building a song out of a library of samples, plus possibly recording some of their own and layering them in. Others record parts in linearly, from microphones or instruments attached to the computer. New versions of iMovie remind me more of the "loop/sample based music creation" concept, except translated to video. They expect you to record all these little segments of video and keep them in a library, to drag and drop in piecemeal, assembling your movie from them.

I don't think there's a "right and wrong" way to do this stuff. But the linear timeline-based editing is going to feel more appropriate for the person who records a lot of continuous footage to import and clean up/cut afterwards.


I'm glad I grabbed iMovie 6 when I did. I was shocked at how bad iMovie 8 is. And the new version looks like a marginal improvement at best. I guess I'm too used to editing through a timeline, and without it I get really frustrated. I mean, video is a linear medium. It just doesn't make any visual sense to me to have to edit in rows.

peeeter
Jan 27, 2009, 01:09 PM
If they have fixed DV video quality issue in iM09 then I see no reason why to to use iM06. Can anyone who received his copy to check the DV quality?

WildCowboy
Jan 27, 2009, 01:13 PM
*sigh* No, actually, that is *not* the case.

Fact: iLife '08 was released on August 7th, 2007: http://www.macrumors.com/2007/08/07/august-7th-updates-imacs-ilife-08-iwork-08-mac-mini-and-more/

Fact: iMovie 6 HD download was *also* released August 7th, 2007: http://www.macrumors.com/2007/08/08/imovie-6-hd-available-for-download/

Actually, if the date that was posted on Apple's site is to be believed, it was released a full year before that. ;)

Still, AFAIK it wasn't available immediately until later in the day at the earliest, but I've tweaked the wording in the article, so thanks for point it out. :)

simX
Jan 27, 2009, 02:02 PM
Actually, if the date that was posted on Apple's site is to be believed, it was released a full year before that. ;)

Still, AFAIK it wasn't available immediately until later in the day at the earliest, but I've tweaked the wording in the article, so thanks for point it out. :)

If you look in the actual thread, the release year was fixed, but the main article didn't get updated. It was a typo.

WildCowboy
Jan 27, 2009, 03:05 PM
If you look in the actual thread, the release year was fixed, but the main article didn't get updated. It was a typo.

We're getting silly now, but if you check the thread, it wasn't a typo on arn's part. Apple's page actually said 2006 at the time of posting, and in fact continued to do so (http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:QkaR-INUXkoJ:support.apple.com/downloads/iMovie_HD_6+imovie+hd+6) until it disappeared within the past couple of days.

typecase
Jan 27, 2009, 03:51 PM
The new iMovie still doesn't print back to DV Tape. :( For this reason alone, iMovie HD is worth the download.

ltldrummerboy
Jan 27, 2009, 04:52 PM
For someone who wants to edit videos taken on a point and shoot Casio and upload them to YouTube, iMovie '08 is great. '08 was the first version of iMovie I ever used and I loved it. I downloaded '06 to see why everyone thought it was so much better. For a first-time user, it's not. I can see how it has more powerful control over editing, but it's just not as easy to use.

I'm ordering iLife '09 today. I'm really looking forward to the new transition effects and video stabilization features in iMovie. Amazon is shipping now.

sgntscrawn
Jan 27, 2009, 05:34 PM
I don't think it is a case of iMovie 08 being rubbish. It is a case of people who really should buy a more professional app wanting something for free and complaining when Apple make it so that it is easier to use for the people that the application is actually aimed at, ie soccer mum and dads who wouldn't know an in point from an out point.

Absolutely!

iMovie 6 HD is far too complicated for a lot of people, and the people that apple want to appeal to. iMovie 08/09 may not have some of the pro-type features that 6 had, but Apple made the executive decision to make their entry-level editor much more easier to use, and their next step up Final Cut Express cheaper.

So quit bitching about the inadequacies of iMovie, and upgrade to FCE if you want more features, people!

Sweetfeld28
Jan 27, 2009, 05:54 PM
i wondered why last month when i looked for it, i couldn't get the download to work. now i know. downloading as we speak.

thanks for the heads up.

Porco
Jan 27, 2009, 07:07 PM
I just had a quick look at iMovie '09, which I received today, and was sad to find that it looks like the reports were true that there is STILL no 'rubber-banding' of audio levels. As this was one of the most useful editing features for me in iMovie I find it very annoying they haven't added it back yet, and I don't think it could be that hard to do.

*sigh*

I don't think it's too much to ask to have such basic feature parity with the version that came out three years ago. Hopefully they'll add back in a point update. Hide the more complicated stuff in 'advanced' modes by all means, but the step up from iMovie to Final Cut is just too big to get little features that used to be in iMovie, sorry.

'09 is still a huge improvement on '08 though.

simX
Jan 27, 2009, 07:13 PM
We're getting silly now, but if you check the thread, it wasn't a typo on arn's part. Apple's page actually said 2006 at the time of posting, and in fact continued to do so (http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:QkaR-INUXkoJ:support.apple.com/downloads/iMovie_HD_6+imovie+hd+6) until it disappeared within the past couple of days.

i.e.:

It was a typo.

alansky
Jan 27, 2009, 08:03 PM
The iMovie HD download (version 6.0.3) is still available:

http://support.apple.com/downloads/iMovie_HD_6_0_3

twoodcc
Jan 27, 2009, 09:23 PM
For those of you who still want to download it iMovie HD 6, it's available for download here (http://download.info.apple.com/Mac_OS_X/061-3532.20070807.nq3ER/iMovieHD6.dmg), but I doubt it'll be there much longer.

Download it while you can!

thanks for the link. i'll get it while its hot!

lftrghtparadigm
Jan 28, 2009, 01:50 AM
I don't think it is a case of iMovie 08 being rubbish. It is a case of people who really should buy a more professional app wanting something for free and complaining when Apple make it so that it is easier to use for the people that the application is actually aimed at, ie soccer mum and dads who wouldn't know an in point from an out point.

Respectfully, I challenge anyone "new" to video editing to pick up iMovie 08 and figure it out within a day.

It is not just far less featured than 6 HD, but twice as hard to use. Even a noob would fine a Timeline more intuitive than "clips". (i still can't even fathom it, a year later...) iMovie 08 is a fail of epic proportions, put lightly.

09 has incredible, breakthrough features, added to a pisspoor app. Nothing more. That makes it better, clearly. Thats all, however.

Will : Hi !
Jan 28, 2009, 08:31 AM
The iMovie HD download (version 6.0.3) is still available:

http://support.apple.com/downloads/iMovie_HD_6_0_3

That's just an update for those who installed iMovie HD 6 from the iLife '06 disc (the download is 7 MB - the full iMovie 6.0.4 download of iLife '08 users is 154 MB).

rth231
Jan 28, 2009, 10:05 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/28/early-ilife-09-notes-and-impressions/)

- iMovie HD 6 has been removed (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/27/imovie-hd-6-no-longer-available-for-download/) from Apple's site, though a direct download [link (http://supportdownload.apple.com/download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/Mac_OS_X/downloads/061-3532.20070807.nq3ER/iMovieHD6.dmg)] is still accessible for now.

Article Link: Early iLife '09 Notes and Impressions (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/28/early-ilife-09-notes-and-impressions/)

It's still there, just "hidden"... GET it before its GONE!

seashellz
Jan 29, 2009, 08:27 PM
is there a standalone 6.03?
becuz the requirement to update 6 to 03 is 6.02 -where is it?-I checked VT
lets hope 6.03 doesnt tell us not 'for this computer'
sfunny-I got a slide in iLife 2008 with my Intel iMac 14 months ago

And i was trying reinstall it recently when i got a 'disc not made for this computer' message
when I was using 10.4 it did;
its OK -was a pain in the ass doing 9 updates-now I do only 2-I hacked a later version of iL08 from a recent 10.5 grey disc

John.B
Jan 31, 2009, 01:24 PM
My first thought was that 1 million Mac users were going to download iMovie HD 6 today even though many of them wouldn't know what to do with it. ;)

No longer available for download... from Apple's website.

There will always be other websites hosting that sort of thing for a long time to come, I'm sure.
No doubt with a trojan or two for good measure. :eek:

Sabon
Feb 2, 2009, 10:38 AM
Once I realized that iMovie '06 was gone from my computer I went and looked in the Applications folder in TimeMachine and quickly restored it.

Note that SO FAR I'm not sure if I need it. But then I really haven't gotten into anything too heavy yet so I'm making sure it is still around just in case.

One thing I don't know about is whether it is compatible with the newest version of iDVD. I don't see why not though since they didn't seem to do anything but change the version number. Ok, I guess they did something, but did it mess with iMovie '06? I don't know.

numbersyx
Feb 2, 2009, 01:28 PM
Shame that they have done this (remove it for download). I used 06 a lot for presentations and found 08 to be seriously wanting. Haven't tried 09 yet but like others on this thread, I may go directly to FCE...

chillywilly
Feb 3, 2009, 04:36 PM
I never liked iMovie 08 and have attempted using it several times with no success. I mean, unless I'm missing something, there's a lot of features that iMovie 06 had that iMovie 08 didn't: drag and drop videos into anywhere on the iMovie 08 screen, no timeline.

I'm more curious to find out if iMovie 06 will work with iMovie 09.

My move to FCE 4 is in progress, but I still need iMovie 06 for some older and smaller and quicker projects.

Shoesy
Feb 3, 2009, 04:50 PM
phew - I'm glad I backed up my copy!

DoFoT9
Feb 5, 2009, 05:25 AM
For those of you who still want to download it iMovie HD 6, it's available for download here (http://download.info.apple.com/Mac_OS_X/061-3532.20070807.nq3ER/iMovieHD6.dmg), but I doubt it'll be there much longer.

Download it while you can!

nah now that doesnt even work now.

spydr
Feb 5, 2009, 11:02 PM
I wonder if anyone tried '09 and still thinks 06 is better and went back to it.

RRutter
Feb 6, 2009, 12:33 AM
No longer available for download... from Apple's website.

There will always be other websites hosting that sort of thing for a long time to come, I'm sure.

Exactly. EVERY piece of at least minimally popular software is still at at least one place on the internet no matter what, really.

iMovie 06 HD will always be on the internet, because of the way apple perfected it.

Sabon
Feb 6, 2009, 09:46 AM
I wonder if anyone tried '09 and still thinks 06 is better and went back to it.

I haven't had it long enough to know.

Keep in mind that I was into a project for two weeks on iMovie '08 before I realized in the final processing that iMovie '08 just wasn't going to cut it. I ended up having to completely start from scratch with iMovie '06 which really frustrated me.

At this point I'm not sure if iMovie '09 is anything but a movie editor for "Little Timmy's" video that mom and dad will put up on their YouTube site. That's not what I'm into so iMovie '09 may or may not be for me. I just don't know yet.

Why two weeks? Because I only have a limited amount of time to work on some projects as there are too many other demands on my time. Plus it was a two hour play that a nephew of my wife's was in. They wanted me to edit it, put in titles and chapters and I was stupid enough, distracted enough actually, to test out everything before I got as far as I did.

So how did the final product come out? iMovie '06 is amazing. With the school's permission I made copies for everyone that was in the play and an extra copy for each family. Complete with custom label (meaning custom picture of each actor) on the cover of each DVD (one DVD for first act and one DVD for second act in two act play). I used acrylic to seal the labels.

Everyone that got them thought my brother-in-law and sister-in-law paid a production company to make the DVDs. I just wish I hadn't wasted two weeks on a product I didn't realize wasn't enough.

Why not use Final Cut Express? Well, for one, I only do a few of these a year for them and each update is $199. And it isn't like iMovie '06 wasn't up to the task. It very much was (iDVD could be better ...) so I never had a reason to get Final Cut Express.

Is iMovie '09 up to the task? Does it have chapters now? Are they easy to enter like with iMovie '06? What about transitions? What about rolling credits which were good for a five actor play in iMovie '08 as long as you had no supporting cast or people creating the sets or the director and band and ... I haven't had time to check out iMovie '09 well enough yet.

jtbell
Feb 6, 2009, 11:00 PM
I'm more curious to find out if iMovie 06 will work with iMovie 09.

Yes, has anyone installed iMovie 06 on a Mac that has a previously-installed iMovie 09? I seem to remember that the iMovie 06 (iMovie HD) that Apple made available for download checks for a previously-installed iMovie. The big question is, whether it checks specifically for iMovie/iLife 08, or whether it also accepts iMovie/iLife 09?

KingYaba
Feb 7, 2009, 08:50 PM
Glad I downloaded it when I did. The direct download link doesn't work anymore.

cash4chaos
Feb 8, 2009, 09:26 AM
Up to date program rocks !

CharlieZ
Feb 28, 2009, 01:49 AM
Yes, I specifically asked an Apple Store online rep before I ordered the new Mac Box Set last month (OS 10.5.6, iLife 09, and iWork 09), and she checked with a support engineer and received confirmation. Unfortunately, I waited until I completed the upgrade before trying to download the installer (stupid!) and now it's gone.

<<request for copy of download removed>>

Charlie Z

Yes, has anyone installed iMovie 06 on a Mac that has a previously-installed iMovie 09? I seem to remember that the iMovie 06 (iMovie HD) that Apple made available for download checks for a previously-installed iMovie. The big question is, whether it checks specifically for iMovie/iLife 08, or whether it also accepts iMovie/iLife 09?

chlorinedream
Mar 1, 2009, 02:44 PM
Is there anyway to still get iMovie HD 6? I recently had to do a reinstall and forgot to download this while I could from the apple site. the newer version is horrible.

Willis
Mar 2, 2009, 01:00 AM
I recently bought myself a PowerMac G4 MMD dual 1.25Ghz.

When I nuked the drive, realised that iMovie 08 and 09 would not work and couldn't find my iLife 06 box. Instead, I dragged it over from my Macbook. Works a charm!

CharlieZ
Mar 2, 2009, 02:06 PM
Well, darn - the download worked just fine, thanks again to a fellow MacRumors forum member. But contrary to what the Apple Store online rep told me last month, the installer did NOT recognize my iLife 09 installation as being valid/qualified for installation of iMovie HD 6. Maybe I'll contact Apple again, but it looks like I may just have to buy a copy of iLife 06 on eBay. (Think I've seen it for under $40, so that's not SO bad...)

Charlie Z

Yes, I specifically asked an Apple Store online rep before I ordered the new Mac Box Set last month (OS 10.5.6, iLife 09, and iWork 09), and she checked with a support engineer and received confirmation. Unfortunately, I waited until I completed the upgrade before trying to download the installer (stupid!) and now it's gone.

Would be very pleased if someone would be willing to burn the installer to disc for me - can send CD and a stamped return envelope.

chillywilly
Mar 2, 2009, 03:23 PM
Well, darn - the download worked just fine, thanks again to a fellow MacRumors forum member. But contrary to what the Apple Store online rep told me last month, the installer did NOT recognize my iLife 09 installation as being valid/qualified for installation of iMovie HD 6. Maybe I'll contact Apple again, but it looks like I may just have to buy a copy of iLife 06 on eBay. (Think I've seen it for under $40, so that's not SO bad...)

Charlie Z

Wow. So it's looking like the iMovie HD 06 download is only going to work alongside iLife 08. That's sad if that's the case. Guess I'll be holding off upgrading to iLife 09 until I can get myself completely off iMovie 06.

It's that timeline that makes it useful for me. I'm in the process of moving everything over to Final Cut Express 4, but there's still times when iMovie 06 is useful for smaller projects I can crank out quickly.

alltheanimals
Mar 6, 2009, 12:06 PM
When my hard drive failed last year they thoughtfully "upgraded" me to iLife 08. I still have my original system install discs for 06, so I tried doing a custom install of just iMovie 06. It didn't do anything, so I've cleaned out all the iMovie 08 files, prefs, the app itself, and tried to re-install 06, but nothing happens. It says the installation is successful, but it only actually installs the themes. Any help here?

=====
nevermind, found the answer here: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1523074

j5045096
Mar 9, 2009, 01:25 PM
Wow. So it's looking like the iMovie HD 06 download is only going to work alongside iLife 08. That's sad if that's the case. Guess I'll be holding off upgrading to iLife 09 until I can get myself completely off iMovie 06.

It's that timeline that makes it useful for me. I'm in the process of moving everything over to Final Cut Express 4, but there's still times when iMovie 06 is useful for smaller projects I can crank out quickly.

My new MBPro came with iLife 08 and then a drop in disc for iLife 09. As soon as I figured out iMovie 06 HD didn't work with iLife 09 I uninstalled it and put 08 on there. iMovie 09 does not fix any of the things I hated about iMovie 08. Very frustrating, considering they had it right (at least for me) with 06. Still don't get the logic of removing the Timeline.

jayeskreezy
Mar 9, 2009, 04:45 PM
My new MBPro came with iLife 08 and then a drop in disc for iLife 09. As soon as I figured out iMovie 06 HD didn't work with iLife 09 I uninstalled it and put 08 on there. iMovie 09 does not fix any of the things I hated about iMovie 08. Very frustrating, considering they had it right (at least for me) with 06. Still don't get the logic of removing the Timeline.

Imovie06 HD does work with ilife 09...you just need to rename imovie 06 hd so that it doesnt say Imovie, but rename it to something like iMovie HD....I'm running both on my computer right now.

j5045096
Mar 13, 2009, 07:30 AM
Imovie06 HD does work with ilife 09...you just need to rename imovie 06 hd so that it doesnt say Imovie, but rename it to something like iMovie HD....I'm running both on my computer right now.

I'm assuming you installed iLife 06 or 08 first, then installed iLife 09?

chillywilly
Mar 18, 2009, 06:34 PM
Still don't get the logic of removing the Timeline.

Me neither. The timeline is the key to editing, at least for me it is.

Imovie06 HD does work with ilife 09...you just need to rename imovie 06 hd so that it doesnt say Imovie, but rename it to something like iMovie HD....I'm running both on my computer right now.

Is iMovie HD 06 installed in it's own folder under Applications - iMovie (previous version)?

pdxflint
Mar 21, 2009, 04:26 AM
Is iMovie HD 06 installed in it's own folder under Applications - iMovie (previous version)?

That's the way it's installed on mine, exactly. And the app file is not called iMovie HD 06, just iMovie HD (same as version 5.) The version is 6.0.4 (after the update download from Apple.)

SFStateStudent
Mar 24, 2009, 03:07 AM
I'm pretty sure I had iMovie HD 6 somewhere on my external HD, but I can't seem to find it; I've had iLife '08 and recently upgraded to iLife '09, so do you think it may have been updated and uninstalled? :confused:

fatespawn
Mar 24, 2009, 03:17 AM
Just read this thread and thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. I just got a new mac with iLife 09 preinstalled, of course. My old computer had iLife 06 which I purchased as an upgrade at some point. I just dragged the iMovie HD.app from my old applications folder to my new applications folder and they live pretty happily side by side.

Bye Bye Baby
Mar 24, 2009, 05:52 PM
iMovie 09 is enough

j5045096
Mar 24, 2009, 09:30 PM
iMovie 09 is enough

enough what? it has no timeline.

millerjouni
Mar 27, 2009, 12:16 AM
Wow. I bought my macbook pro about 6 months ago. The main reason I bought it was for imovie. Coming from PC I used Pinnacle studio and wanted a laptop that would have the power and simple timeline style video editing abilities. Just finished doing all the reading about this and I am pissed to say the least. imovie 08 is crap, period. I would have spent the money on a pc laptop if I knew imovie 06 wasn't on my mac.

I didn't know much about this until I tried to make a quick video and figured I'd be able to pick it up quickly this month....um no.

Anyways just wanted to put my two bits in from someone that didn't have the bias of using 06 before. Junk junk junk. Now there is only one other option :)

mikes63737
Mar 28, 2009, 02:22 PM
iMovie 06 doesn't work with DRM'd iTunes songs anymore... it just says that your computer isn't authorized.

xgsdx
Mar 29, 2009, 12:25 AM
So there's no way to get iMovie HD 6 any more?

r.j.s
Mar 29, 2009, 12:25 AM
So there's no way to get iMovie HD 6 any more?

No

jdechko
Mar 29, 2009, 12:47 AM
Honestly, I love what they did with iMovie '08, and I will be excited when I finally get to try out '09. I have only ever made quick movies of my son using Windows Movie Maker, which took way longer than iMovie.

But what I did like about '08 was when I was working for Apple, it was extremely easy to demo to customers. I could sit there and talk to them for about 5 minutes and in that time built a custom DVD using iMovie + iDVD with a birthday video clip and a slideshow from iPhoto. That's why iMovie is what it is.

I Am Steve Jobs
Mar 29, 2009, 01:31 AM
No

Yes. You can. :rolleyes:

r.j.s
Mar 29, 2009, 01:35 AM
Yes. You can. :rolleyes:

Not legally, and MR does not condone illegal downloading of software.

DoFoT9
Mar 29, 2009, 02:01 AM
iMovie 06 doesn't work with DRM'd iTunes songs anymore... it just says that your computer isn't authorized.

does on mine, your computer must have been de-authorised.

puffnstuff
Mar 31, 2009, 11:35 AM
I know this is a long shot but is there anywhere I still can get it?:(

chillywilly
Mar 31, 2009, 11:48 AM
I know this is a long shot but is there anywhere I still can get it?:(

Most of the sites that it's been uploaded to have taken it down (at least that's been my experience, both in accessing it and having uploaded it).

Wish there was a place I could point you to it. What does Google searching for the .dmg file show? Any current results?

techfreak85
Mar 31, 2009, 11:50 AM
come on apple! some of us consumers wanna edit movies in a logical, linear fashion!:eek:

r.j.s
Mar 31, 2009, 01:03 PM
come on apple! some of us consumers wanna edit movies in a logical, linear fashion!:eek:

Then buy an editor - they offer two to choose from.

techfreak85
Mar 31, 2009, 01:06 PM
Then buy an editor - they offer two to choose from.

yes i know. im just complaining. ;)

Le Big Mac
Mar 31, 2009, 01:16 PM
So there's no way to get iMovie HD 6 any more?

Are there (legitimate) copies of iLife 06 on eBay?

awpitchy
Mar 31, 2009, 02:30 PM
Thats a shame! But good job I have a copy! :D

Khryz
Mar 31, 2009, 02:33 PM
Question, I have iMovie 6 now but if I was to buy iLife 09, I hear that iMovie 09 wouldn't overwrite my iMovie 6 copy is this true?

r.j.s
Mar 31, 2009, 02:35 PM
Question, I have iMovie 6 now but if I was to buy iLife 09, I hear that iMovie 09 wouldn't overwrite my iMovie 6 copy is this true?

I know '08 doesn't, and neither should '09. You can always put 'o6 into a folder before installing '09.

AFABS
Apr 1, 2009, 08:46 PM
phewww...thankfully i got a copy a little while back

huntercr
Apr 6, 2009, 03:18 PM
Are there (legitimate) copies of iLife 06 on eBay?

There might be, but there are also many for sale on Amazon.
Here (http://www.amazon.com/Apple-iLife-Mac-DVD-VERSION/dp/B0007LW22G) and here. (http://www.amazon.com/Apple-iLife-Family-OLDER-VERSION/dp/B0007LW22Q)

GORKofYORK
Apr 12, 2009, 12:16 PM
CUSTOMER LOYALTY? WHY?

Apple relies on consumer 'loyalty' to sell their products so they can make money. That is why I am disturbed that Apple seems to have NO 'loyalty' to their long term, faithful customers in regard to iMovie. I bought a new MacBook in December thinking it would have the same, or better features than iMovie 06. But iMovie08 is horrible. Audio editing is pathetic. As a long time film and video editor I find iMovie08 extremely laborious to use. And no, I will not fall for Apple's ploy and buy iMovie09. That is what they are expecting. That is why they made iMovie08 so horrible. I no longer trust Apple to do what is 'right'.

It is sad how Apple deliberately destroyed iMovie06 by stripping it of features and then relabeling it as iMovie08. And to further drive a stake in their customers' hearts they stopped allowing downloads of iMovie06. This move was intentional, and it was motivated by greed.

It is sad when companies like Apple think only of short-term profits and not long-term gains. This mutant philosophy permeates the corporate culture in America where customer satisfaction is becoming non-existent. Wake up Apple and start to think of customers again or you will end up with no people loyal to your brand. By embracing your philosophy of getting as much money short term as you can you will certainly be sacrificing future sales. I know I will definitely not remain loyal to a company that doesn't care about its customers.

niconico
Apr 25, 2009, 06:33 AM
Good thing I saved a copy on my external HD.

any conclusions on where i can find imovie hd 06 just got a new mac laptop and settled down with new fottage to edit and found that monstrosity imovie09. have they dumbed it down so that we have to buy fcpro. grrr...if you have a copy is it small enough to email? can think of something good to swap for it? will try my best.:D

DoFoT9
Apr 25, 2009, 06:34 AM
any conclusions on where i can find imovie hd 06 just got a new mac laptop and settled down with new fottage to edit and found that monstrosity imovie09. have they dumbed it down so that we have to buy fcpro. grrr...if you have a copy is it small enough to email? can think of something good to swap for it? will try my best.:D

lol man its like a 50mb file JUST for the application.. i dont think any email clients let you send over 20mb max

amicusqt
Apr 25, 2009, 11:41 AM
Hmmm - I found this discussion after an hour or so of googling re the various versions of iLife. I was about to go purchase iLife 9 for the iMovie component, when i found out it only supports G5's. (I've got PPC G4's - one iMac 15" flat panel & two eMacs + many G3's - which is what happens when you've got 4 kids under 18 - and you pick them up here and there, and even for free- but I"m trying to upgradeus all to G$'s - pref the flat panels; just LOVE 'em)

So far all my reading has led me to understand that I need to get a copy of iLife 6, to appropriate the iMovie HD 6.

But I just can't find one yet in eBay for OZ - so I'm wondering if any of you would know someone from whom I could purchase a used and/or unwanted iLife '06.

I live in Perth, Western Australia.

Gregg :) amicuset@bigpond.com

mmmichaels
Apr 25, 2009, 11:52 AM
Yet Apple were happy to hand out free copies of this but when it's mirrored at another place it's not right. Personally I think that's a load of bollo**s. Maybe if they actually kept it on their website people wouldn't have to resort to these means. If you can't buy it anymore, can't download it off their website, then where else are you supposed to get it?

techfreak85
Apr 25, 2009, 11:52 AM
Yet Apple were happy to hand out free copies of this but when it's mirrored at another place it's not right. Personally I think that's a load of bollo**s. Maybe if they actually kept it on their website people wouldn't have to resort to these means. If you can't buy it anymore, can't download it off their website, then where else are you supposed to get it?

its apples software. they can do what ever they want.

r.j.s
Apr 25, 2009, 11:53 AM
Yet Apple were happy to hand out free copies of this but when it's mirrored at another place it's not right. Personally I think that's a load of bollo**s. Maybe if they actually kept it on their website people wouldn't have to resort to these means. If you can't buy it anymore, can't download it off their website, then where else are you supposed to get it?

You're not supposed to get it anymore. They offered it because people were unhappy with 08. When 09 came out, they decided to no longer offer it. Their software, their choice. It is two versions old.

mmmichaels
Apr 25, 2009, 11:55 AM
I agree, yet it's still arguably the best version of iMovie to come out. Sounds like they're starting to act like windoze a bit.

techfreak85
Apr 25, 2009, 11:56 AM
I agree, yet it's still arguably the best version of iMovie to come out. Sounds like they're starting to act like windoze a bit.

it sounds like you're starting to act like criminal:p

r.j.s
Apr 25, 2009, 11:58 AM
I agree, yet it's still arguably the best version of iMovie to come out. Sounds like they're starting to act like windoze a bit.

Because they don't allow you to download an old version of software?

iMovie 09 is much better, in a number of ways, than 06 - and it supports many more cameras and codecs. Try importing AVCHD into iMovie HD.

If you need a pro video editor - it's time for FCE.

mmmichaels
Apr 25, 2009, 11:58 AM
it sounds like you're starting to act like criminal:p

Haha, call me Mac the Ripper! lol Nah I wouldn't want to be a criminal, I'm just providing the information. Plus, I wouldn't have to act like this is they respected their customers and the loyalty that we've shown them for years.

Still. Unless someone comes up with a more stable, better genre of computing equipment, that's life.

Because they don't allow you to download an old version of software?

iMovie 09 is much better, in a number of ways, than 06 - and it supports many more cameras and codecs. Try importing AVCHD into iMovie HD.

If you need a pro video editor - it's time for FCE.


I agree in terms of compatibility, but functions within the video editing suite don't compare. 06 was a lot more user friendly also.

techfreak85
Apr 25, 2009, 11:59 AM
Haha, call me Mac the Ripper! lol Nah I wouldn't want to be a criminal, I'm just providing the information. Plus, I wouldn't have to act like this is they respected their customers and the loyalty that we've shown them for years.

Still. Unless someone comes up with a more stable, better genre of computing equipment, that's life.

they did show loyalty. they offered the old version until they could release a new version that had all the missing features.

r.j.s
Apr 25, 2009, 12:01 PM
06 was a lot more user friendly also.

Only for people that have used other NLEs before. For home users (the target audience of iMovie), it had a steep learning curve.

EDIT: Use multi quote http://images.macrumors.com/vb/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif rather than double posting.

mmmichaels
Apr 25, 2009, 12:05 PM
Only for people that have used other NLEs before. For home users (the target audience of iMovie), it had a steep learning curve.

EDIT: Use multi quote http://images.macrumors.com/vb/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif rather than double posting.


True. And I do use iMovie 09 because of the compatibility but I never edit in it, I used to use 06, however I've since switched to Premiere Pro yet for the little quick jobs I tome to tome still use 06

techfreak85
Apr 25, 2009, 12:06 PM
Only for people that have used other NLEs before. For home users (the target audience of iMovie), it had a steep learning curve.


Exactly. It may not make as much sense to you and me, but to my parents or grandparents, it makes a lot more sense.

r.j.s
Apr 25, 2009, 12:08 PM
True. And I do use iMovie 09 because of the compatibility but I never edit in it ...

I have iMovie HD and 09 as well as FCE on my Mac. I haven't used HD in a long time, iMovie 09 is literally drag and drop, and it offers to-the-frame accuracy if you need it. The advanced features are there, but they aren't staring the new users directly in the face.

mkrishnan
Apr 25, 2009, 12:11 PM
Most of you are aware of our policy on promoting or linking to pirated software, even in the context of "Robin Hood" sort of acts like this. Thank you all for your support of our community standards.

For everyone else: Do not post links to torrents, rapidshare accounts, or other sites that re-distribute commercial software without authorization. This includes linking to downloads of iMovie 06 from people other than Apple. We apologize but remind you that this is against the rules of MacRumors' forums.

Along the same lines, do not solicit anyone for information on how to get pirated copies of software on Macrumors, either.

Thanks again.

techfreak85
Apr 25, 2009, 12:12 PM
Most of you are aware of our policy on promoting or linking to pirated software, even in the context of "Robin Hood" sort of acts like this. Thank you all for your support of our community standards.

For everyone else: Do not post links to torrents, rapidshare accounts, or other sites that re-distribute commercial software without authorization. This includes linking to downloads of iMovie 06 from people other than Apple. We apologize but remind you that this is against the rules of MacRumors' forums.

Thanks again.

thank you so much for putting a stop to this.

Keniff
Apr 25, 2009, 04:04 PM
TBH, I've not read the whole thread, but it is frustrating.
I just upgraded to a Mac Pro from a G4 Dual Optical (mirror doored).
Before Christmas I bought Leopard and iLife '08 (legitimately) and then found that Apple had put iMovie 6HD up on their website, for people like me, which was I thought was very very cool indeed.

Now I've reinstalled the Leopard OS and iLife '08 on the old G4, so it's nice and clean for the next owner, then I go back to the Apple site and it's Gone!! :mad:

I didn't keep the old iMovie 6HD .dmg, I guess not many people do, and now it's something I've learned!

Tbh, I've tried looking for the .dmg for 7 hours now and I've given up!!
The next owner of shall just have to go without!

And now this whole experience has left me frustrated and annoyed that Apple should do this!
Yes, I appreciate it's in order to sell iLife '09, but what does one do in this situation? (What do the old G4 users do?)

Over the last 10 years I've spent more than £20,000 ($30,000 - €22,000) on Apple products - it's a no wonder that some people complain about no customer loyalty!

*Rant Over*

*Sulks and steps off soap box*

r.j.s
Apr 25, 2009, 04:12 PM
Just curious, how long do they have to keep it up to remain "loyal?"

Aug. 8, 2007 - it was made available. (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/08/08/imovie-6-hd-available-for-download/)

Jan. 27, 2009 - it was made unavailable. (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/27/imovie-hd-6-no-longer-available-for-download/)

It was available for a year and a half, I think that is reasonable.

Keniff
Apr 25, 2009, 04:24 PM
Just curious, how long do they have to keep it up to remain "loyal?"

Aug. 8, 2007 - it was made available. (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/08/08/imovie-6-hd-available-for-download/)

Jan. 27, 2009 - it was made unavailable. (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/27/imovie-hd-6-no-longer-available-for-download/)

It was available for a year and a half, I think that is reasonable.


I shall give away my old G4 to an local community infant school for free, in a world of Windows, I hope that I may turn some of these kids to the joys of working with an Apple and iMovie is just part of it.
I'm frustrated now, it's just one of cool applications that the machine wont have!
It's a rock solid machine that will be perfect for them, and now I feel it's devalued, Not financially of course, as I'm donating it.

It's just losing a cog in the wheel, they you can't get anymore!

naman34
Apr 25, 2009, 06:34 PM
Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5G77 Safari/525.20)

I figured that this was coming. Apple did add many of the features that the new iMovie was missing back. I still prefer FCP though.

funny how imovie is being compared to fcp!!!!!!
imovie is amateur editing for something like home movies, and fcp is the best pro software!

amicusqt
Apr 25, 2009, 08:54 PM
Personally, having been an apple user since 1986 with Performa 580CD, and having acquired many 2nd hand machines as my family expanded, I find that Apple has been very very good in the area of Backward compatibility. Hey I can even put Leopard on a G3 that originally came out with the first OSX!!!!!

So you might need to get a larger HD - and it might be a wee bit slow on a 400Mhz - but compare that to Microsoft's track record of BACKWARD COMPATABILITY; a bit like giving up smoking where you need a 'patch' every 24 hours. {Disclaimer - no i don't smoke - and would never ever allow a smoker near my macs!!! :( )

With foreSight (different from iSight) - built-in Infrared receivers that came out with the BondiBlues, could have been kept in, and might have proven useful today - but won't wii and bluetooth kill that potential, just like a Zip Drive began to replace a floppydrive, and now has been replaced by ThumbDrives etc.

Apple could have killed off 400mbs Firewire sooner; especially with USB 2 (apart from booting from Firewire needs) - but it looks like Firewire 400 has only just dwindled off with early 2009 machines.

So I'd say Apple has done exceeding well.

Back in the 90's when I was at Uni; I used allthree types - Amiga, PC's & Macs - and Macs were the most dummy-friendly so I've stuck with Apple and not been majorly disappointed.

Anyway there's my two cents worth.

G :)

DoFoT9
Apr 25, 2009, 09:01 PM
amicusqt: very interesting post but im not sure what this has to do with iMovie 6 :confused:

IF you can still find iMovie 6 then it will work on basically any computer you can throw at it (if its running 10.4/10.5) - the main issue here is that its not available. that doesnt really relate to backwards compatibility, i guess it would be relevant if iMovie9 wouldnt run on an older computer (checks compatible computers for latest ilife) -- hhmm ok it needs 10.5.6...

bummer :| -- but it can still run on G4 computers(faster then 867MHz) - they are a good couple of years old now.

amicusqt
Apr 25, 2009, 09:03 PM
Okay, apart from a message on forums like this - here's some others:

eBay - if too expensive on USA eBay (like for me with freight and exchange rate) - try your local eBay.

Gumtree - many places around the world have Gumtree Advertisements - I've actually just placed a wanted ad in my local Gumtree.

Quokka - this might only be an Aussie thing - but its an advertising paper that comes out weekly here in Perth. Western Australia - or like Classified Ads in local newspapers.

Local Mac Resellers - sometimes these smaller Apple approved repairers will have older stock of Apple software.

Local MAC Communities - get into their webpages, find a contact email address, and go ask.

Good Will Hunting

G :)

amicusqt
Apr 25, 2009, 09:06 PM
oh DoFoT9 - Hi - hope it's a lovely day in the state of my birth!!


My post on backward compatibility was merely me wanting to give Apple some good press amidst all the complaints going on on this thread - that's all

G :)

DoFoT9
Apr 25, 2009, 09:08 PM
oh DoFoT9 - Hi - hope it's a lovely day in the state of my birth!!

i noticed you were an aussie from the last post you did!

oh. my. god! today is the MOST PERFECT day i have seen all year! its amazing! ill take some pictures if you really want hahahahaha!

why arent you in the good state now??? (boo)


My post on backward compatibility was merely me wanting to give Apple some good press amidst all the complaints going on on this thread - that's all

G :)

aahhh well fair enough. i didnt realise that hah! great post :)

amicusqt
Apr 25, 2009, 09:15 PM
DoFoT9 - is your username like R2D2 C3P0 DrWHO Q K9 - PITY YOU CAN'T have a number plate that long.

Hey I want a picture of the whole state - does iSight do wide-angle??? Especially The Oaks outside of Camden - where I lived as wee thing in a country town that is now a suburb of Sydney I'm sure.

How do I adjust my profile to include email stuff etc - can't find the button.

Gregg :)

DoFoT9
Apr 25, 2009, 09:18 PM
DoFoT9 - is your username like R2D2 C3P0 DrWHO Q K9 - PITY YOU CAN'T have a number plate that long.

Hey I want a picture of the whole state - does iSight do wide-angle??? Especially The Oaks outside of Camden - where I lived as wee thing in a country town that is now a suburb of Sydney I'm sure.

How do I adjust my profile to include email stuff etc - can't find the button.

Gregg :)

lol no my username is my 'codename' for my band. band name = "Freaks on Table 9", im a drummer. so "Drummer of Freaks on Table 9" = DoFoT9.

lol no isight doesnt do wide-angle, especially not that wide :p

im in the tweed area, kingscliff to be precise. awsome day 2day.

if you wanna chat more PM me.

oh and to change any information hit "Quicklinks" but the top menu bar type thing in macrumors and go to "Edit options" / "edit signature" etcetc..

jeli
May 11, 2009, 01:44 PM
Respectfully, I challenge anyone "new" to video editing to pick up iMovie 08 and figure it out within a day.

It is not just far less featured than 6 HD, but twice as hard to use. Even a noob would fine a Timeline more intuitive than "clips". (i still can't even fathom it, a year later...) iMovie 08 is a fail of epic proportions, put lightly.
.



On '08, I was completely unable to figure out how to splice images over video and keep the soundtrack flowing. on 06 it was a snap.

Blue Fox
May 11, 2009, 01:49 PM
......so everyone doesn't like iMovie 08/09 because it runs a bit different? Once you watch a couple of the free "how-to" video's on Apple's website, the new iMovie's are really leaps and bounds ahead of iMovie 6......and is much easier and quicker edit. That's what Apple does.....they innovate. There can't be innovation without some sort of change. I welcome the new innovations to iMovie 08/09.......and I find myself making quick edits using that versus Final Cut Studio I paid so dearly for. :D

Keniff
May 11, 2009, 04:34 PM
......so everyone doesn't like iMovie 08/09 because it runs a bit different?

No,not just that, there's also no iMovie in iLife '09 for the Power Mac G4's (http://www.macupgrades.co.uk/store/machine.php?name=powermac-g4-dual-optical)

chillywilly
May 11, 2009, 04:38 PM
......so everyone doesn't like iMovie 08/09 because it runs a bit different? Once you watch a couple of the free "how-to" video's on Apple's website, the new iMovie's are really leaps and bounds ahead of iMovie 6......and is much easier and quicker edit. That's what Apple does.....they innovate. There can't be innovation without some sort of change. I welcome the new innovations to iMovie 08/09.......and I find myself making quick edits using that versus Final Cut Studio I paid so dearly for. :D

To this seasoned iMovie 06 user (and now a coming-up-to-speed FCE 4 user), I tried the videos out on Apple's site in learning iMovie 08 and it was still difficult.

I think if you get used to using the timeline that iMovie 06, FCE and FCP use, it's a hard transition into moving to iMovie 08/09.

Maybe I just need to watch the videos again. This is the link I used again - http://www.apple.com/findouthow/movies/imovie08.html

r.j.s
May 11, 2009, 07:23 PM
No,not just that, there's also no iMovie in iLife '09 for the Power Mac G4's (http://www.macupgrades.co.uk/store/machine.php?name=powermac-g4-dual-optical)

So all new software should be able to run on 4-year-old, obsolete hardware?

DoFoT9
May 11, 2009, 07:25 PM
So all new software should be able to run on 4-year-old, obsolete hardware?

yes!!! :cool:

r.j.s
May 11, 2009, 07:29 PM
So all new software should be able to run on 4-year-old, obsolete hardware?

Oops. My mistake, that machine you referenced was from 2002 ... 7-year-old obsolete hardware.

DoFoT9
May 11, 2009, 07:36 PM
Oops. My mistake, that machine you referenced was from 2002 ... 7-year-old obsolete hardware.

ah.. hmmm.. thats a bit tougher. if the older computer can run the current OS then i dont think its obsolete.. if it sits at 10.4.9 or something then its kind of pushing it..

r.j.s
May 11, 2009, 07:40 PM
ah.. hmmm.. thats a bit tougher. if the older computer can run the current OS then i dont think its obsolete.. if it sits at 10.4.9 or something then its kind of pushing it..

But there is no rational reason to expect the third version of iMovie AFTER the G4 was discontinued (maybe the 4th after the PowerMac dropped the G4 for the G5) to support it.

DoFoT9
May 11, 2009, 07:44 PM
But there is no rational reason to expect the third version of iMovie AFTER the G4 was discontinued (maybe the 4th after the PowerMac dropped the G4 for the G5) to support it.

no your right.

but if the computer can support the required OS then i see no reason why the software wouldnt be able to run happily on it, albeit a tad slower (in this case anyway - trying to run FCP or something would be a different story).

r.j.s
May 11, 2009, 07:50 PM
but if the computer can support the required OS then i see no reason why the software wouldnt be able to run happily on it, albeit a tad slower (in this case anyway - trying to run FCP or something would be a different story).

The OS is designed to be extremely lightweight, and can therefore support a lot more systems than processor/RAM intensive apps like iMovie.

DoFoT9
May 11, 2009, 08:01 PM
The OS is designed to be extremely lightweight, and can therefore support a lot more systems than processor/RAM intensive apps like iMovie.

yup true. ahwell.. the only thing stopping the G4s are the processor (apparently).

chillywilly
May 21, 2009, 09:55 AM
If I understand a few things correctly, the iMovie 06 download that Apple offered was specifically for iLife 08 customers to address issues about missing features that were not in iMovie 08.

Without any restrictions, anyone, including those who were not iLife 08 users, could download the iMovie 06 from Apple's site.

Here's the confusion: Now that Apple has removed it from their site, redistributing this once freely available download is now considered "pirating". I understand this is Apple's product and they can do whatever they want with it, and they can do what they want with it since they are the owner of the product. I also understand that they want people to use iMovie 08/09 or move up to FCE or FCP.

But the question lingers: if it only works with iLife 08 (the jury is still out for iLife 09 users), and there are current customers that need this previous version and there are those who, for various reasons, did not get the download properly from Apple's site, what options do these people have? Any option at all?

There are many reasons why some of us still use iMovie 06, or at least need to have it around. For me, it's many, many projects that are still in iMovie 06 that I don't need to convert to FCE that I may need to go back to and export to a Quicktime movie (different resolution settings, etc).

I'm not asking Apple to hang onto an older version of a piece of software forever, but if those of us that are trying to help out fellow iMovie 06 users can't because redistributing this one freely available software is now considered pirating, there needs to be at least one option that can be made available.

HudsonsHalfHour
May 21, 2009, 05:18 PM
I didn't keep the old iMovie 6HD .dmg, I guess not many people do, and now it's something I've learned!

Tbh, I've tried looking for the .dmg for 7 hours now and I've given up!!
The next owner of shall just have to go without!



I still have mine, is it simply a case of copying it from one mac to another? (getting rid of old mac mini).

chillywilly
May 21, 2009, 05:25 PM
I still have mine, is it simply a case of copying it from one mac to another? (getting rid of old mac mini).

Nope, you need to install it. I've tried dragging it to another Mac and it doesn't run properly (at least that's been my experience).

The download for iMovie 06 is for iLife 08 users.

r.j.s
May 21, 2009, 05:29 PM
Since iLife '08 has been replaced, the version prior to that is no longer available. The download was available for more than a year, if you didn't get it then and archive it - I don't know what to tell you.

davidg4781
May 26, 2009, 03:46 PM
Ok, I don't know if this has been previously discusses or not, but I came across this thread while searching for something else.

I had been told in the past to use iMovie '06 back when I had '08. I reinstalled '06 from the discs that came with my MacBook then upgraded back to '08 thinking I would have both. When I opened iMovie, '08 opened, so I just thought it was gone.

While looking through my Applications folder to see why iDVD didn't upgraded when I installed iLife '09, I found a folder called iMovie (previous version). Inside was iMovie '06 HD. I don't know if it came from iLife '09, from '08, or after I upgraded again to '08. I did have a pretty big updated for iMovie this morning, but I'm not sure if that's just an older update that it just noticed (I installed iLife '09 Sunday night before going to bed).

Just throwing this out, if anyone wants to experiment with it.

chillywilly
May 26, 2009, 04:10 PM
I did have a pretty big updated for iMovie this morning, but I'm not sure if that's just an older update that it just noticed (I installed iLife '09 Sunday night before going to bed).

Just throwing this out, if anyone wants to experiment with it.

So are you saying that you have both iLife 09 and iMovie 06 on the same system? How does iMovie 06 run?

hak187
May 27, 2009, 02:25 PM
So are you saying that you have both iLife 09 and iMovie 06 on the same system? How does iMovie 06 run?

I have both on my machine as well. Imovie 06 runs fine.

davidg4781
May 27, 2009, 11:36 PM
So are you saying that you have both iLife 09 and iMovie 06 on the same system? How does iMovie 06 run?

Yes, I have both...haven't really had a chance to play with '06, been too busy with work.

jayducharme
May 28, 2009, 08:17 AM
I just finished making a video project with iMovie 8 (from iLife 09). It takes a bit of getting used to. But once I was comfortable with it (after an hour or so), I found I could get far more work done much more quickly. And I didn't find any compromises; it actually has more features and flexibility than iMovie 6. But it's a whole different way to edit video. I think Apple got it right with this version.

chillywilly
Jun 2, 2009, 08:41 AM
I have both on my machine as well. Imovie 06 runs fine.

Great to hear that both do work after upgrading to iMovie 09.

Insomniak
Jul 5, 2009, 10:55 AM
I'm surprised that in 6 pages of posts, I only saw one real post about the main reason I think that iMovie 8/9 stink... Plugins!

I own the original version of FCP and also Final Cut Studio (latest). I used ot own a Canon XL1 camera and loved doing "movies" with that combo....

"Most" consumer don't make movies. They shoot video with a small camcorder or camera that does video and they do it in small segments.

iMovie is GREAT an piecing these together into something you can send to grandma, post on YouTube, whatever. I've had 14 digital cameras since 1996 (Sony Mavica anyone?) and a few camcorders. I have TB's of pics and video and sometimes I'll whip something together of the kids or a vacation. iMovie is great for this.

I spent $100's of $$ on GeeThree plugins for iMovie and honestly it made it one of the most amazing apps anywhere. As the earlier post mentioned, the stuff you could do was just amazing. iMovie 8 came out and "POOF" all gone. No more. I recently bought a MBP 17 and decided to try out iMovie 9 and it is very different but I like some of the concepts. The ability to "scan" through the clips is great, much easier to find the shot that I'm looking for.

My main complaint is the lack of plugin support. I spent a lot of money (probably about $400-500) and that software is no longer of use. They made iMovie something so much greater than it was by itself. For those users just upset about the timeline aspect, there are other video editing apps out there for the mac. They just cost money :-)

I understand the need for progress and I don't fault Apple at all. They went a different direction AND they came out with FCE to offer users something less expensive.

Software is meant to evolve and it can't last forever.

iAlexG
Jul 5, 2009, 03:57 PM
I just got my mac and I think iLife is great lol

Philscbx
Jul 7, 2009, 06:35 AM
decided to try out iMovie 9 and it is very different but I like some of the concepts. The ability to "scan" through the clips is great, much easier to find the shot that I'm looking for.
I too recently put iLife 09 on last years MacPro with iMovie update to 9.

I'm not sure where 'no time line' comments enters in here.
I just did a huge project with it. An RC airshow in the Netherlands.
All the clips can be selected individually and have their own time line.
The edits cuts are quick.
No transitions are added till all clips are edited first and saved.
So far it's been flawless.

Background itunes can be added in, so I'm cool with that.

Back when I tried this on the older Powerbook G4, if you didn't save every step of the way, it crashed, now start over.

I'm still on the fence with FCP.
Even on this site, too much whining that it's outdated.
But what else is there?

No one makes a good point of what else to use on the Mac.
But if FCP is the Mac choice, then I'll get it mostly for the special effects and dual screen view from what little I've played with it.

I'll take any advice seriously as I have a huge wedding to edit of 3 cameras running. Plus 2 running of reception.
Thanks

paradoll
Jul 17, 2009, 06:27 PM
I got my macbook last October when the aluminum bodies first came out, and I didn't get a chance to really play around with iMovie until school ended and summer started a few weeks ago. I realized how much iMovie 08 sucked (I'd rather use Windows Movie Maker...) and found out that 06HD wasn't available anymore either...

Are there any sources left? Anyone willing to share it?

I called apple support, got transferred to a number of different people, and I got told that because of iLife09, 06 wouldn't be available from apple, and the only thing I could do was to look for another source online through version tracker or Google....I don't really want to go out and spend $100 quite yet on iLife 09.

This is so frustrating. :(

MarkCooz
Jul 17, 2009, 06:52 PM
Alright, I own iLife 09 and my cousin has the iLife 08, I recently got the iMovie HD 6 installer, and when i tried installing it, it says i have to have iLife 08 installed, I read that one of the users who posted in this thread has iLife 09 installed and also iMovie HD.

My question is, HOW?
how is it that you made that work? :confused:
Do i need to remove iLife 09? ---> then install iLife 08' ---> then install iMovie HD6, then remove iLife 08 ---> then install iLife 09 again?

Thanks for anyone who can help me with this one.
I'm a youtuber and I really miss using iMovie HD, iMovie 09 is good, but Effects on HD is really awesome.

r.j.s
Jul 17, 2009, 07:25 PM
Alright, I own iLife 09 and my cousin has the iLife 08, I recently got the iMovie HD 6 installer, and when i tried installing it, it says i have to have iLife 08 installed, I read that one of the users who posted in this thread has iLife 09 installed and also iMovie HD.

My question is, HOW?
how is it that you made that work? :confused:
Do i need to remove iLife 09? ---> then install iLife 08' ---> then install iMovie HD6, then remove iLife 08 ---> then install iLife 09 again?

Thanks for anyone who can help me with this one.
I'm a youtuber and I really miss using iMovie HD, iMovie 09 is good, but Effects on HD is really awesome.

I had HD installed > Installed '08 > Installed '09.

When I installed '08, it created an iMovie (Old version) folder - which '09 doesn't touch during install.

paradoll
Jul 17, 2009, 07:46 PM
Alright, I own iLife 09 and my cousin has the iLife 08, I recently got the iMovie HD 6 installer, and when i tried installing it, it says i have to have iLife 08 installed, I read that one of the users who posted in this thread has iLife 09 installed and also iMovie HD.

My question is, HOW?
how is it that you made that work? :confused:
Do i need to remove iLife 09? ---> then install iLife 08' ---> then install iMovie HD6, then remove iLife 08 ---> then install iLife 09 again?

Thanks for anyone who can help me with this one.
I'm a youtuber and I really miss using iMovie HD, iMovie 09 is good, but Effects on HD is really awesome.


Hey, I'm a youtuber too and I want iMovie HD... how did you get a hold of the HD 6 installer?

r.j.s
Jul 17, 2009, 08:16 PM
Hey, I'm a youtuber too and I want iMovie HD... how did you get a hold of the HD 6 installer?

It may have come with their Mac, it came with mine.

Beyond that, see:

Most of you are aware of our policy on promoting or linking to pirated software, even in the context of "Robin Hood" sort of acts like this. Thank you all for your support of our community standards.

For everyone else: Do not post links to torrents, rapidshare accounts, or other sites that re-distribute commercial software without authorization. This includes linking to downloads of iMovie 06 from people other than Apple. We apologize but remind you that this is against the rules of MacRumors' forums.

Along the same lines, do not solicit anyone for information on how to get pirated copies of software on Macrumors, either.

Thanks again.

MarkCooz
Jul 17, 2009, 08:22 PM
I had HD installed > Installed '08 > Installed '09. When I installed '08, it created an iMovie (Old version) folder - which '09 doesn't touch during install.

Ahhh thanks for the info. So can I un-install my ilife 09 then install '08 then imovie hd then upgrade to 09?
Sorry for all the questions, just making sure before i do it.

Hey, I'm a youtuber too and I want iMovie HD... how did you get a hold of the HD 6 installer?
Awesome man, Check my channel out and subscribe (On my signature)
I got it hehe lol :D downloaded it from someone else harddrive... lol haha

paradoll
Jul 18, 2009, 01:38 AM
It may have come with their Mac, it came with mine.

Beyond that, see:

Sorry about breaking the rules, I guess I wasn't aware. But I did call Apple support and they encouraged me to find another source for downloading it.

If it's already on the Mac, where would such a file be located? I got the aluminum macbook with iLife 08 from October 2008...

r.j.s
Jul 18, 2009, 07:41 AM
If it's already on the Mac, where would such a file be located? I got the aluminum macbook with iLife 08 from October 2008...

It would only be on your Mac already if it came with iLife '06.

jsandler
Jul 19, 2009, 09:00 PM
If you have a mac currently on Leopard, and want the old iMovie HD back, follow these easy steps...

1. Install all of your iLife '06 applications onto the computer, simply put the disk in and run the install

2. After all have been installed iDVD is not going to be working, because it will not interface with the old iMovie for some reason.

3. Go into your Applications folder and drag out iMovie HD to the Desktop, and put it on a CD/JumpDrive/External.

4. Get out the Leopard install disk and put it in, to re-install the iLife '08 software.

5. Once all that is done loading, restart the computer. (should automatically)

6. Plug the JumpDrive/CD/External back into the computer and drag iMovie HD to the Applications folder, and make sure it runs.

7. This should work fine and be able to export to iDVD.

8. Now you have both iMovies, and enjoy! It worked on both of my OS X Leopard computers.

By the way I'm 16 years old, and i figured this out on my own! =)
If you have any questions, contact me via email at azoutlaws9@yahoo.com

r.j.s
Jul 19, 2009, 09:01 PM
If you have a mac currently on Leopard, and want the old iMovie HD back, follow these easy steps...

That method works because you have iLife '06.

barrey
Sep 25, 2009, 01:21 AM
I recently got the iMovie HD 6 installer, and when i tried installing it, it says i have to have iLife 08 installed, I read that one of the users who posted in this thread has iLife 09 installed and also iMovie HD.
My question is, HOW?

Obtain the IMovieHD6.dmg file (sorry, I can't help people with this) or the iMovieHD6.pkg (inside of the .dmg)

If you have the dmg, copy the iMovieHD6.pkg to a folder on your hard drive.

Right-click (or control-click if you have a one-button mouse) on the iMovieHD6.pkg file and select "Show Package Contents"

Open the folder called "Contents"

There is a file inside called iMovieHD6.dist.

Right-click and choose "Open With", then "Other".
Scroll down the list of applications presented and choose TextEdit.

Locate the following code in the file:


// requires iLife 08 cookie
if (!system.files.fileExistsAtPath("/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iLife08.plist"))
{
my.result.title = system.localizedString('TITLE_NOCOOKIE');
my.result.message = system.localizedStringWithFormat('ERR_NOCOOKIE');
my.result.type = 'Fatal';
return false;
}


change it so that it reads:


// requires iLife 08 cookie
//if (!system.files.fileExistsAtPath("/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iLife08.plist"))
//{
// my.result.title = system.localizedString('TITLE_NOCOOKIE');
// my.result.message = system.localizedStringWithFormat('ERR_NOCOOKIE');
// my.result.type = 'Fatal';
// return false;
//}


Save the file, and exit TextEdit.

Close the package contents window and run the iMovieHD6.pkg.

It will install in a folder called iMovie (previous version).

Enjoy!

Three easier alternatives:
1. Copy the file called "/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iLife08.plist" from a mac with iLife 08 installed to your mac. The file is only 4K.

2. Copy your own "/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iLife09.plist" to a file called "/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iLife08.plist"

3. Create a blank file called "com.apple.iLife08.plist" in your "/Library/Preferences/" folder. It doesn't seem to check the contents, just for the file's presence.

Any of these methods makes editing the .dist file as described above unneccessary.

-Barrey

tempusfugit
Sep 25, 2009, 04:39 AM
why not just use sane comment syntax?


/*

stuff you want commented


*/

barrey
Sep 25, 2009, 05:40 PM
why not just use sane comment syntax?


/*

stuff you want commented


*/

I am not sure if that syntax actually works in this type of file, all the comments that I saw were prefaced with // so that's what I used.

-B

onewiththesky
Oct 8, 2009, 03:51 PM
Please help. I am new to this list and am wondering if one can run imovie 5 or 6 on the new mac pro laptops? I hope so as the new versions of imovie just don't cut it in my opinion. I do very quick turnaround movies with the residency program I do in schools and need as few hand moves as possible. I love 5 and 6 for their straitforward professional nature.

Thanks.

amicusqt: very interesting post but im not sure what this has to do with iMovie 6 :confused:

IF you can still find iMovie 6 then it will work on basically any computer you can throw at it (if its running 10.4/10.5) - the main issue here is that its not available. that doesnt really relate to backwards compatibility, i guess it would be relevant if iMovie9 wouldnt run on an older computer (checks compatible computers for latest ilife) -- hhmm ok it needs 10.5.6...

bummer :| -- but it can still run on G4 computers(faster then 867MHz) - they are a good couple of years old now.

onewiththesky
Oct 8, 2009, 03:54 PM
New here . . . wondering about whether or not imovie 5 or 6 will run on the new mac pro lap tops? Is this possible and if so, what must one do. I much prefer these versions of imoive.

thanks!
D

Obtain the IMovieHD6.dmg file (sorry, I can't help people with this) or the iMovieHD6.pkg (inside of the .dmg)

If you have the dmg, copy the iMovieHD6.pkg to a folder on your hard drive.

Right-click (or control-click if you have a one-button mouse) on the iMovieHD6.pkg file and select "Show Package Contents"

Open the folder called "Contents"

There is a file inside called iMovieHD6.dist.

Right-click and choose "Open With", then "Other".
Scroll down the list of applications presented and choose TextEdit.

Locate the following code in the file:


// requires iLife 08 cookie
if (!system.files.fileExistsAtPath("/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iLife08.plist"))
{
my.result.title = system.localizedString('TITLE_NOCOOKIE');
my.result.message = system.localizedStringWithFormat('ERR_NOCOOKIE');
my.result.type = 'Fatal';
return false;
}


change it so that it reads:


// requires iLife 08 cookie
//if (!system.files.fileExistsAtPath("/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iLife08.plist"))
//{
// my.result.title = system.localizedString('TITLE_NOCOOKIE');
// my.result.message = system.localizedStringWithFormat('ERR_NOCOOKIE');
// my.result.type = 'Fatal';
// return false;
//}


Save the file, and exit TextEdit.

Close the package contents window and run the iMovieHD6.pkg.

It will install in a folder called iMovie (previous version).

Enjoy!

Three easier alternatives:
1. Copy the file called "/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iLife08.plist" from a mac with iLife 08 installed to your mac. The file is only 4K.

2. Copy your own "/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iLife09.plist" to a file called "/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iLife08.plist"

3. Create a blank file called "com.apple.iLife08.plist" in your "/Library/Preferences/" folder. It doesn't seem to check the contents, just for the file's presence.

Any of these methods makes editing the .dist file as described above unneccessary.

-Barrey

Hikkadwa
Oct 20, 2009, 05:15 PM
I made the switch to FCP 4.5 HD and I've never looked back at iMovie anything. I'll try the HD 6 download...

I'm about to bin imovie 06 and try FCE HD - how hard did you ind the transition??

gotenks05
Nov 15, 2009, 10:32 AM
Wow. So it's looking like the iMovie HD 06 download is only going to work alongside iLife 08. That's sad if that's the case. Guess I'll be holding off upgrading to iLife 09 until I can get myself completely off iMovie 06.

It's that timeline that makes it useful for me. I'm in the process of moving everything over to Final Cut Express 4, but there's still times when iMovie 06 is useful for smaller projects I can crank out quickly.

I know this thread is old, but iMovie '06 can work alongside '09. If you have a Mac from 2006, probably late 2006 at best, instead of a copy of ilife '06, you can use pacifist to install it on your Mac. The isight does not work, at least for me, but Quicktime X and iMovie '09 can use it, if the isight is necessary.

chillywilly
Nov 16, 2009, 09:33 AM
I know this thread is old, but iMovie '06 can work alongside '09. If you have a Mac from 2006, probably late 2006 at best, instead of a copy of ilife '06, you can use pacifist to install it on your Mac. The isight does not work, at least for me, but Quicktime X and iMovie '09 can.

Thank you for this. I do still have my 2006 MBP 15" (I gave it to my wife when I got a new MBP in Sep 2009) and plan to use it to migrate all of my iMovie 06 projects to Final Cut Express 4, which is what I now use full time for all of my video projects.

I do, however, still have iMovie 06 around in case I need to reinstall it on the older MBP.

gotenks05
Nov 16, 2009, 12:30 PM
Thank you for this. I do still have my 2006 MBP 15" (I gave it to my wife when I got a new MBP in Sep 2009) and plan to use it to migrate all of my iMovie 06 projects to Final Cut Express 4, which is what I now use full time for all of my video projects.

I do, however, still have iMovie 06 around in case I need to reinstall it on the older MBP.

You're welcome. I knew that it would work, because I did it myself and I have an iMac from September 2006.

techfreak85
Nov 18, 2009, 12:42 AM
oh i missed out on it :(
does anyone know where i can still get one?
pleaaaaaaase
or if anyone is willing to email me the file?
thanx guys
No, no one will. We do not support illegal file sharing here.

MacMiniCooper
Nov 21, 2009, 02:56 AM
I just copied iMovie 06 from my older laptop and dropped in into my new Mac Pro and it worked without any other modifications or anything. Just double clicked and it opened. I then dragged the iMovie folder from library>application support and put it in the Mac Pro...that's for the themes if you use those.

TheZA
Dec 6, 2009, 08:22 PM
I just copied iMovie 06 from my older laptop and dropped in into my new Mac Pro and it worked without any other modifications or anything. Just double clicked and it opened. I then dragged the iMovie folder from library>application support and put it in the Mac Pro...that's for the themes if you use those.

Thanks for the tip on getting the themes over.

MrCheeto
Jan 20, 2010, 02:48 PM
Any chance I can find the plug-ins for iMovie HD 06 for OS X on Intel?

I had plug-ins like chromakey and quicksilver rainbow but they were for OS9.