Mac OS X 10.3.3 Released

[MacRumors]

Apple has released Mac OS X 10.3.3:

Key enhancements include:

- network volumes are now available in the Finder sidebar and Desktop for convenient access
- improved file sharing and directory services for Mac (AFP), UNIX (NFS) and PC (SMB/CIFS) networks
- improved PostScript and USB printing
- updated Disk Utility, DVD Player, Image Capture, Mail and Safari applications
- additional support for FireWire and USB devices
- improved compatibility for third party applications
- previous standalone security updates and Bluetooth Update 1.5

For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n25711

[UKMacBod]

So does this signal the imminent release of new PowerMacs etc?!?!

Or is that just wisful thinking...?! :D

[arn]

First reply!

So does this signal the immiment update of hardware?

not necessarily

[DrGruv1]

now g5 pb?

[Freg3000]

For everyone that was of the belief that hardware updates were waiting for 10.3.3 to be released....tomorrow morning will be your first chance. :)

Downloading and installing as we speak.

[JohnGillilan]

58.8 MB . . . Isn't that a rather large update??

[UKMacBod]

For everyone that was of the belief that hardware updates were waiting for 10.3.3 to be released....tomorrow morning will be your first chance. :)

Downloading and installing as we speak.

Good 'ol tuesdays!!! :D

[phrac]

downloading now on my 5 day old powerbook g4 1.25

[stoid]

At 58.8MB we'd better get some new stuff on the 'morrow! :D

[NeoMayhem]

I will install it as soon as my 42gb torrent file is done downloading.

[cybermat]

Does this upgrade include new video drivers?

[jeremy.king]

Finally.

Can't wait to get home.

[ij3ffy]

New drivers, but doesn't help playability of UT2k4 on a powerbook 1ghz 12", it is still unplayable.. ohh well.. Powerbooks aren't gaming machines anyways..

[Turias]

I will install it as soon as my 42gb torrent file is done downloading.

What the hell are you downloading?

[edesignuk]

Great, now all I need is my Mac back from repair :rolleyes: Even so, if I did have it here, I'd hold off for a while. Good luck to those taking the plunge, be sure to report back! :D

[iomar]

I can't wait to use it..

[numediaman]

Bingo!

I doubt there will be a G5 announcement before the 30th -- but you can't rule it out now. There certainly could be other announcements: displays, QuickTime, other software updates.

This is great news -- my credit card is ready to go.

Now, we need some rumors about these new G5s. For instance, will there be new memory requirements? what about optical drives? will be get a speed up in the burners?

[0 and A ai]

woohoo

come on don't crash my comp!

[7on]

yay! Let's hope for the best!

[uv23]

must... resist downloading.. for at least a day!!
will... failing... clicking.. update..... aiiyyy
:)

[Rower_CPU]

I'll report back with news of how it goes.

:)

[Nermal]

Great, I go take a shower, then when I get back I find that I've missed all the action :(

[JohnGillilan]

The download has started going extremely slow -- I think everyone is updating all at once!!!

[adamfilip]

download now too. should have it all down in 45 seconds :)

[bb0ys]

Has anyone installed 10.3.3 after performing the following under 10.3.2: sudo ln -s /System/Library/Extensions/BootCache.kext/Contents/Resources/BootCacheControl /usr/sbin/BootCacheControl

That was the way to speed up startup time after 10.3.2 caused it to slow down on some machines. I am wondering if there is any reason to remove the symbolic link (that is created by performing the above action) before installing 10.3.3.

[jero]

man where do i go to download this?!

[MacsRgr8]

Isn't it smaller than the previous developer builds?

[Duff-Man]

Duff-Man says....installed without any problems....build is 7F44...Safari is 1.2.1 (v125.1)...oh yeah!

[From Win to Mac]

Networking and .Mac enhancements


Addresses issues, such as a lost network connection, that could occur when connecting to a network device that forces the network speed and/or duplex setting (known as a "locked" device).
AppleTalk Browsing is now on by default.
Resolves an issue in which name conflicts could occur among Network Service Entities.
Available servers can be seen when browsing Windows Workgroups or Domains.
Enhancements to /Network browsing include: Servers appear on the desktop and in Finder window Sidebars, AFP Authentication options are available, and you can disconnect a server by dragging its icon on the desktop to the Trash or by clicking the Eject icon in the Sidebar.
Improves synchronization between .Mac and your computer.
.Mac no longer attempts to automatically sync files over a wireless network (or "hotspot") before the computer is authorized to use the network.
Enhances an Open directory plug-in, which is used in network environments: The Active Directory plug-in is no longer sensitive to the case of the domain; the plug-in now works in ".local" domain environments; the plug-in is now less sensitive to DNS records that don't have matching reverse lookup.
Improves compatibility with certain third-party wireless networking PC cards, such as the Honda AH-G10. More...

Enhances the IrDA menu item when IrDA networking is active.
Finder and applications that allow you to browse the file system will now refresh the contents of a remote network volume's folder or directory when the folder's contents change.


DVD Player enhancements

DVD Player will no longer quit if an unsupported PCI video card is installed in your computer. More...
DVD Player supports more DVD video discs that are designed to play automatically.
Improved DVD playback when "Digital Audio Output" is selected in DVD Player preferences.
DVD Player now recognizes and plays DVD+R media.


Application enhancements


Images retain their characteristics when you import them in iPhoto. More...
Addresses an issue in which Mail could unexpectedly quit when marking some types of unsolicited messages (or "spam") as Junk.
Addresses issues that may cause Address Book and other applications to unexpectedly quit if the Classic Mac OS fonts are disabled in Font Book.
Text shadow opacity and color are saved in RTF documents and preserved when you copy or paste.

Image Capture can now import files whose names begins with an underscore character ("_") .


Finder enhancements


Improves security by requiring an administrator to authenticate for each Finder action that needs authentication, such as installing software. In earlier Mac OS X Panther versions, an administrator who authenticated may have unknowingly given elevated priviledges to the non-admin user for 5 minutes. This change also prevents a normal user from performing administrator actions if an administrator user has authenticated during their session.
When you use an Open menu command to choose a file in Finder or an application, the flashing button now says "Choose" instead of "Open".
Addresses an issue in which Finder unexpectedly quits if the View menu option "Show icon preview" is enabled while dragging a significant number of icons to another location.



Other enhancements


Improvements in start up time that some computers experienced under some installations of Mac OS X 10.3.2 Update. More...
Improves print operations when a pending print jobs is moved to the queue of a printer that has different capabilities. More...
Improves recognition of Hi-Speed USB devices by PowerBook G4 and iBook G4 computers when woken from sleep.
A UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) panel is available in Energy Saver preferences, as well as a UPS menu bar item, when a UPS power management system is connected to the computer. Overall support for UPS systems is improved.
Improves display of text when printing a document that contains two-byte PostScript CID or OpenType fonts.
Improves compatibility for USB Overdrive: Addresses an issue in which the Media Eject and volume keys may not work if an early version was installed. More...

Improves Fan Control system function for Power Mac G5 computers.

Includes Bluetooth 1.5, which supports Bluetooth-enabled headsets with iChat AV, and adds the ability to print to compatible Bluetooth-enabled printers.

Adds support for the latest mLAN devices. First-generation mLAN devices require a firmware update for compatibility with v10.3.3. Please visit (http://www.mLANcentral.com) for complete details and access to available firmware updates.

[stoid]

Have we picked up a bunch of ****ing trolls? Who the hell rated this thread negative, and why the **** would you do something like that? :mad:

[Freg3000]

I installed and repaired permissions (only one fix required) and am reporting live....

Normally I am reluctant to claim things are "snappier," but things definitely seem slightly faster. Network browsing is, on average, 500 million times better than before...even that seems faster. And already stated, Safari saw a slight upgrade.

No kernal panics. :D

Good luck to the rest of you.

[Matrix9180]

I will install it as soon as my 42gb torrent file is done downloading.

MAN that's a lot of porn!

[OutThere]

Downloading it... will report back so all you weenies can install it without fear...

[spinko]

optimizing..... 96%... installed... rebooted.... and everything seems ok. Networking is much better (icons finally show up on the desktop). Havn't tested the rest but installation went smoothly.

[goof_ball]

Well, I've installed 10.3.3 and I don't notice a difference......so far.

[Rower_CPU]

Installed fine. Repaired permissions and the only thing fixed was in /System/Library/FileSystems.

So far, so good.

[zell]

WHOOHOO! Frame rates are up in everything ive checked so far! A LOT!!! and even normal OS stuff seems to be perfect. better scrolling, window resizing.....finally. this is awesome! what are your results ?

[Photorun]

ROCKIN! Bring on the new G5s!

[steadyeddie]

What's going on? It's not appearing in my software update, and I can't find it on the Apple downloads page! I want my update! :mad:

Anyone else having trouble? (I'm in the UK by the way...)

[BKB]

OOOOHHH yeah.... snappier it is.

[Makosuke]

Holy crap! UPS support built-in?

And here I just installed the new version of APC PowerChute on 10.3.2... if that's really in there, and really does work, guess I won't have to wonder if it's compatible with 10.3.3!

(Wonder if it automatically shuts the UPS down after the computer... oooh, time for testing.)

[mactastic]

Oh goodie! Can't wait to get home and install this one. Let's hope all the networking crapola has been fixed. I won't complain about a snappier feel either...

[MasterMac]

Well I'm going to backup first (as I always do :)) then install and hopefully won't have any issues :D

[AmigoMac]

OOOOHHH yeah.... snappier it is.


I hope... Emac 1GHz, 768 RAM, SD ...

Will be checking the store tomorrow... every 10 min. :D

[WinDoze9t8]

What's going on? It's not appearing in my software update, and I can't find it on the Apple downloads page! I want my update! :mad:

Anyone else having trouble? (I'm in the UK by the way...)

Yeah, i feel for you. i tried about 6pm from the UK too... :mad:

Every good thing comes to those who wiat (i checked back about 10 mins) downloading now... :p

[gola]

Can´t wait to test out the fontbook improvements. If this fixes the bug causing my problems I will finally be able to install all my fonts without Suitcase:

"Addresses issues that may cause Address Book and other applications to unexpectedly quit if the Classic Mac OS fonts are disabled in Font Book."

[fraeone]

Everything is feeling good on my 12" PB 1ghz. Samba networking is finally fixed! Go Apple!

[soosy]

Servers now show up in the different domains immediately! Before it was very slow as they all showed up and it wasn't cached so it had to do it each time.

It's interesting that once you connect to a server via browse, you no longer actually browse the server from that point like 10.3.2. You have to go to the desktop or finder sidebar. That's fine with me, as it was awkward navigating to the server that deep anyway, just surprised it was removed from that point.

Keychain still doesn't work connecting to the Windows servers here. it may be that IT somehow disabled that on the server.

So anyhow, I'm going to stick with using this format:
smb://username@server.company.com/sharename

in Connect to Server since keychain seems to work that way.

[utilizer]

I hope... Emac 1GHz, 768 RAM, SD ...

Will be checking the store tomorrow... every 10 min. :D

Oh what are you complaining about?!
I've got a tried and true 400 mhz Pismo running OS X.3. :p

[simply258]

I installed 7F43 yesterday. Picked it up on the net. Do I need a Reversioner before installing this final release ? Someone let me know ASAP cause I'm dying to update.

[andyduncan]

Great, I go take a shower, then when I get back I find that I've missed all the action :(

All the action? Does that mean you had been waiting to take a shower since the last system update? ;-)

[laytonhayes]

I cannot find stand alone update download on the Apple site. Any ideas?

[Maritan]

I had that symbolic link thing in my sbin directory. Didn't delete it, went ahead and installed 10.3.3. No problems so far!

Computers on the network do seem to be showing up faster now... but I'm still not convinced. When I get to my own lab where I know all the computers on my network, I'll know if it really has been improved (in my case, at least).

[thecombatwombat]

Great, now all I need is my Mac back from repair :rolleyes: Even so, if I did have it here, I'd hold off for a while. Good luck to those taking the plunge, be sure to report back! :D

Just installed it. Bare minimum SMB support is mass improved, so I'm very happy.

[Counterfit]

Addresses an issue in which Mail could unexpectedly quit when marking some types of unsolicited messages (or "spam") as Junk. WOOOHOOOOO!! w00t! YESH! etc. ad nauseum :D
good enough for me! I'll update in a few minutes.

[wookitus]

"A UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) panel is available in Energy Saver preferences, as well as a UPS menu bar item, when a UPS power management system is connected to the computer. Overall support for UPS systems is improved."

I saw this listed in the update. Is there a list of Apple supported UPS systems? Also, do you still need to install the UPS drivers with this support or does MacOS X automatically supply drivers? If anyone knows, please post. :cool:

[CaptainScarlet]

Can´t wait to test out the fontbook improvements. If this fixes the bug causing my problems I will finally be able to install all my fonts without Suitcase:

"Addresses issues that may cause Address Book and other applications to unexpectedly quit if the Classic Mac OS fonts are disabled in Font Book."

In earlier version of Font Book(10.3 betas), you were able to use networking fonts. I wish they would put it back in, as well as the auto-activation...


Font Book seems to zip by, after the update.



CS...out

[Elektronkind]

Just installed it. Bare minimum SMB support is mass improved, so I'm very happy.

I'm still seeing no change - ie, I'm expecting with this update to be able to browse the network for SMB servers... but when I go to the Network area on the sidebar, I still get the same useless three folders - Library, Applications, and Users.

Was I wrong to be under the impression that the SMB fixes included the ability to browse the network for SMB servers?

/ek

[stuepfnick]

New drivers, but doesn't help playability of UT2k4 on a powerbook 1ghz 12", it is still unplayable.. ohh well.. Powerbooks aren't gaming machines anyways..

Believe me, there is a BIG bug in the UT2004 Demo. On Single Processor Macs it runs with maximum the half frame rate, try this:

Open home/library/application support/unreal tournament2004/System/

and edit the UT2004.ini file just with Textedit.

Change:
Channels=6
CacheSizeMegs=32 (your VideoRAMsize)
VARSize= 32 (again)

at OpenGL (not Direct3D ;-):
LevelOfAnisotropy=0

and if you want:
Use16BitTextures=True

These was just small tweaking! Now to work around the bug you MUST turn off audio, to get 2 or 3 times the frame-rate as before (indoor runs very smooth now on my 800Mhz iMacG4, all effects, high resolution, etc.)

THIS IS IMPORTANT (ONLY single-CPU Macs!:
The same file as before:
Open home/library/application support/unreal tournament2004/System/UT2004.ini

UseSound=False

At the Engine.GameEngine!

This is extremely important, turning off the sound works around the bug UT2004 has with single CPU machines. It runs at least twice as fast then. You will see it, now even the menu runs smooth :-)

[TorbX]

After 10.3.2, my PB's fan was always active. I used a little program called silentnight or something like that to stop it from blowing (reversed apple's new cooling seetings)

10.3.3. put me back on this one. The darn thing is blowing again... REALLY ANNOYING!

EDIT:
Everything is much snappier, though. For my PB 12" rev A, this was a real powerboost.

Later,
-TorbX.

[ipacmm]

Finally....its about time

[frenetic]

Has anyone installed 10.3.3 after performing the following under 10.3.2: sudo ln -s /System/Library/Extensions/BootCache.kext/Contents/Resources/BootCacheControl /usr/sbin/BootCacheControl

That was the way to speed up startup time after 10.3.2 caused it to slow down on some machines. I am wondering if there is any reason to remove the symbolic link (that is created by performing the above action) before installing 10.3.3.

Well I had put the symbolic link instead of copying the actual file and start-up was now a bit slower than before, but that could also be due to a first time start-up. I am repairing permissions now and will then start-up again, but so far I have not encountered any problems at all.

[stoid]

Halo is SO MUCH BETTER NOW!!!

[AmigoMac]

Oh what are you complaining about?!
I've got a tried and true 400 mhz Pismo running OS X.3. :p

I never complain about things... jsut want to tell everybody how proud of my little white box (eMac) I am ...oh BTW, 10.3.3 installed, something looks better but i dont know exactly what it is... maybe the peace of having the ever-expected update... ;) ... This baby will alway rock!

eMAc 1GHz SD 768 RAM 80GB HD :D

[goof_ball]

Well I had put the symbolic link instead of copying the actual file and start-up was now a bit slower than before, but that could also be due to a first time start-up. I am repairing permissions now and will then start-up again, but so far I have not encountered any problems at all.

The first startup after updating was slow. The second time was as expected.

[idkew]

no problems here after the update.

[beerguy]

I'd REALLY like to not have to authenticate every damn time I connect to an smb server.

[jwhitnah]

Oh what are you complaining about?!
I've got a tried and true 400 mhz Pismo running OS X.3. :p

Someone name one product release immediately preceded by an OS update. The updates are usually released WITH the machine. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it, I just think we would have had some details. Right now the rumor mills are as dry as dust.

[frenetic]

The first startup after updating was slow. The second time was as expected.

Yep, that's what I also just experienced :-) Seems like a smooth and well-prepared update.

[narco]

It's funny how people work in the Powerbook G5 into every rumor that comes up. Funny, funny funny!

- narco

[Makosuke]

I reversed that BootCache tip by removing the link:

sudo rm /usr/sbin/BootCacheControl

...which seemed to work just fine. The 10.3.3 installer created a file there (doesn't look like a symlink, though), and after a couple of restarts the time is exactly the same as with the "hack" under 10.3.2. Nice.

As for Networking: Woo-hoo! It finallly works like it should, and mounts browsed volumes on the desktop and in the finder sidebar like it should. Happiness!

One minor glitch, may or may not be indicitave of a problem: I first mounted an AFP share. Worked great. Then I tried to mount a couple of SMB shares, but neither showed up anywhere, and it said it "couldn't find the item" if I tried to connect again. The two mounts did show up in /Volumes though. The Finder seemed to be sluggish at that point, too.

...But, after I disconnected from the AFP share, the two SMB volumes immediately appeared on the Desktop as expected, and work fine (Finder also back to normal). I reconnected to the AFP share after that, and no problems there, either, so maybe it was just some sort of caching issue since I'd just started up. Time and more testing will tell.

All around, though, I'm a happy camper that Apple's getting 10.3 good and cleaned up.

[highcaffeine]

Keychain still doesn't work connecting to the Windows servers here. it may be that IT somehow disabled that on the server.

So anyhow, I'm going to stick with using this format:
smb://username@server.company.com/sharename

in Connect to Server since keychain seems to work that way.

We used to have the same problem with the Macs at our office when connecting to our fileservers (Linux machines running Samba). We solved it very easily by simply adding aliases on the servers for the usernames of Mac clients. Apparently, if the remote username doesn't match the user you're logged into your Mac as, Keychain ignores your saved credentials.

As an example, Bob Smith logs into his Mac as bobsmith, but his username on the fileserver is bsmith. By adding the alias on the server for bobsmith -> bsmith, Bob's Keychain stored credentials started working without a problem (since he now logged into the server as bobsmith; same as on his local machine).

With Samba under Linux, this is a cinch to do. Just add the alias entry to /etc/samba/smbusers (format is "bsmith = bobsmith"). Not sure how to do it with a Windows server, since we don't run any of those here, but I'm sure there's a way to do it. Of course, if you don't have any control or influence over the administration of your Windows servers, this may not be a workable solution.

[bryanc]

I've now downloaded and installed this on three machines (1.8GHz G5, 667 MHz TiBook, and a 350 MHz G4) without any problems. As far as I've seen, no one else has had any problems either (apart from the first reboot taking a little longer, which is perfectly normal). So who, but the most egregious of Wintel Trolls, would rate this negatively?

Cheers.

[NeoMayhem]

What the hell are you downloading?

TV Shows. It is the whole series of a show, ~120 episodes at 350mb each.

[neutrino23]

After 10.3.2, my PB's fan was always active. I used a little program called silentnight or something like that to stop it from blowing (reversed apple's new cooling seetings)

10.3.3. put me back on this one. The darn thing is blowing again... REALLY ANNOYING!

EDIT:
Everything is much snappier, though. For my PB 12" rev A, this was a real powerboost.

Later,
-TorbX.

Is this common on the 12" PB? On both my Pismo 500 and Aluminum PB 1.25 the fan almost never comes on.

[klaus]

TV Shows. It is the whole series of a show, ~120 episodes at 350mb each.

Friends? i've got the dvd superbox though, I enjoy it far more than those divx episodes :p

back on topic now.. great to see they released it so soon after the last seed!

[Calvinatir]

the only time my PB 17" fan comes on is when Im running a large divx file with the thing on my lap...

[Photorun]

Well, it's a bit snappier, restart shaved a second off my 1.8 DP G5 with 2.5 GB RAM, from 13 seconds down to 12, that's not to shabby. However networking HASN'T changed, it still doesn't see my iBook or iMac on the network unless I manually feed it the IP address of each, that's total BS. Of course, my iBook and iMac running greatly superior network ease-of-use 10.2 JagWIRE, just go to the "Go" menu in the Finder and boom, everything is there. So I still don't get why Apple effed this up, and why they have made it HARDER to browse the network. Other than that, in general, SFDD.

I'm bummed. And still no driver improvements for the Epson 880, no ability to choose quality or B&W vs. Color.... hmmm, Apple's engineer's heads are up their arses. :mad:

[bluefido]

Is this common on the 12" PB? On both my Pismo 500 and Aluminum PB 1.25 the fan almost never comes on.

It depends on the task and where I have the PB. If it's on my lap, the fan will be on more often. The same goes for DVD authoriing.

[numediaman]

My two favorite upgrades in 10.3.3:

1) DVD player now recognizes DVD+R media

2) 10.3.3 now supports G5 3.0GHz PowerMacs and 23" Aluminum Cinema Displays. ;)

[klaus]

Well, it's a bit snappier, restart shaved a second off my 1.8 DP G5 with 2.5 GB RAM, from 13 seconds down to 12, that's not to shabby. However networking HASN'T changed, it still doesn't see my iBook or iMac on the network unless I manually feed it the IP address of each, that's total BS. Of course, my iBook and iMac running greatly superior network ease-of-use 10.2 JagWIRE, just go to the "Go" menu in the Finder and boom, everything is there. So I still don't get why Apple effed this up, and why they have made it HARDER to browse the network. Other than that, in general, SFDD.

I'm bummed. And still no driver improvements for the Epson 880, no ability to choose quality or B&W vs. Color.... hmmm, Apple's engineer's heads are up their arses. :mad:

I really don't think apple's engineer's have been busy updating epson drivers.. they've got other things on their minds. About your network issues, can't comment on that one

[cjc343]

With XBench, speed is down, but gaming (BZflag) I get an average of + another 20 FPS and it stays around there (it used to change drastically)

Other than that, I have not yet run more tests.

[Stella]

OSX10 definitely feels more snappier on my ibook, thought Safari appears to render HTML slower...

I cannot add a network machine to the side bar in browse network though.. i thought you were supposed to be able to do this.

[mikeyredk]

With XBench, speed is down, but gaming (BZflag) I get an average of + another 20 FPS and it stays around there (it used to change drastically)

Other than that, I have not yet run more tests.

my xbench score didn't change a single bit even when i added more ram :confused: what gives

[realityisterror]

i am pretty sure start-up was faster. i don't even remember seeing "login window starting"
w00t :eek: :D :cool: :)

reality

[martman]

I had an issue where the icons for SMB shares that were previously working started to show up in the networking pane as folders rather than the blue network icons. When I tried to open one of these the folder would be empty.
This update has fixed this issue!
:D

[hulugu]

Well I just installed the update and everything is workin (no carrier)

[mustang_dvs]

I installed 7F43 yesterday. Picked it up on the net. Do I need a Reversioner before installing this final release ? Someone let me know ASAP cause I'm dying to update.
Congratulations on providing another example of why everyday users shouldn't install developer seeds:
You run a serious risk of damaging your system and losing data,
You're dependent upon developer-only resources to return to the main release,
By reinforcing the black-market trade of developer seeds, you make Apple more and more weary of releasing updates to ADC members, making it increasingly hard for real developers to get their hands on seed releases, and
When things go wrong, you waste the time of tech support staff (who often kick your calls over to the understaffed developer support techs).


When will people learn that it's dangerous and detrimental to use non-public builds?

And, yes, I know the answer to your question, but I have no desire to help you, whatsoever.


Can´t wait to test out the fontbook improvements. If this fixes the bug causing my problems I will finally be able to install all my fonts without Suitcase.
Perhaps adding, but not simultaneously activating all of your 700+ fonts would solve your problem with Suitcase -- it's a casual user application, not a pro solution. (Of course, in a test on my work G5, Font Book successfully juggled 1,200 PS1 fonts I threw at it, but that's just me.)

[cjc343]

Changed my Processor Speed settings to Auto.....


no wonder XBench was slower....

[cjc343]

WOW!! talk about snappier...... XBench scores are higher than ever, iCal startup time is amazing (for me)

iPhoto 2.0 scroll times are increased (but still not as good as iLife '04)

Everythings is GREAT!!!

[Nikko1965]

Well I installed on my 12" 1GHz, browsed my Windows beast effortlessly and am now sitting here enjoying the sound of my fan. Endlessly. Never used to be on all the time. Is 10.3.3 that hot?

[bousozoku]

OpenGL looks better. I no longer see gaps in the middle of items.

Things seem somewhat quicker but it's always that way after a restart.

Software Update preferences are not reset to automatically check.

One startup item that's checked to be hidden is shown in the Dock.

Networking between machines on the switch is much more reliable.

[jacg]

The 10.3.2 bug which required the USB plug to be removed between each print job is fixed! My trusty HP Laserjet 5MP lives on!

[Balin64]

[QUOTE=mustang_dvs]And, yes, I know the answer to your question, but I have no desire to help you, whatsoever.

Man, take it easy.

Don't be such a professional snob.

Although I agree with what you say.

Update working perfectly on 1 Ghz iMac/PB and even on good 'ol Betsy: my 333 Blueberry iMac.

[simply258]

Congratulations on providing another example of why everyday users shouldn't install developer seeds:
You run a serious risk of damaging your system and losing data,
You're dependent upon developer-only resources to return to the main release,
By reinforcing the black-market trade of developer seeds, you make Apple more and more weary of releasing updates to ADC members, making it increasingly hard for real developers to get their hands on seed releases, and
When things go wrong, you waste the time of tech support staff (who often kick your calls over to the understaffed developer support techs).


When will people learn that it's dangerous and detrimental to use non-public builds?

And, yes, I know the answer to your question, but I have no desire to help you, whatsoever.
Somebody give this guy an Oscar *claps*

I made the choice to take the risk of losing any data. ADC members pay a fee to be members, I don't think Apple would stop sending them releases. And when things go wrong, simply reinstall from CD. Save your breath unless you're willing to be helpful.

[Wonder Boy]

i can't help but feel all the positive ratings are based on possible g5 PM & PB releases. don't get me wrong, i'm slighty excited, but we have been let down before...

[RTouris]

Friends? i've got the dvd superbox though, I enjoy it far more than those divx episodes :p

back on topic now.. great to see they released it so soon after the last seed!

I bet this is Stargate SG-1 :D

[BobVB]

However networking HASN'T changed, it still doesn't see my iBook or iMac on the network unless I manually feed it the IP address of each, that's total BS.

What's your network setup? I have an IP number for my computer but most others in the house get a LAN number off the Airport base station. I couldn't see everyone until I defined a LAN ethernet for my computer and let it pick up a LAN number too. Now everything works great and everyone shows up on a browse as well as all the Rendezvous shared printers.

[jwhitnah]

My two favorite upgrades in 10.3.3:

1) DVD player now recognizes DVD+R media

2) 10.3.3 now supports G5 3.0GHz PowerMacs and 23" Aluminum Cinema Displays. ;)
Almost bought number 1, but snapped out of it upon reading number 2!

[lazyrighteye]

I'm a print designer by day, and can't comment on BootCache, SMB, AFP or any other acronyms. But 10.3.3 seems perfectly smooth to my eyes, thus far. And unlike a few earlier posts, my 1st restart was maybe "twice" as fast as before, which is nice.

And anyone who posts negative posts about Apple trying to improve their OS is just plain silly.

Fo' shizle.


Oh, G4/1GHz, 1GB RAM... for those keeping score.

[amaly76]

Almost bought number 1, but snapped out of it upon reading number 2!

DVD+R is now supported in DVD player according to Apple
:)

[Espnetboy3]

everything seems to be just fine , honestly cant notice any differences from 10.3.2 , although i must say i have never had a problem with any software like a bunch of people on this site have had , no crashin or anything although i think my ichat 2.0 not beta will eat up 90% of my cpu at times . i have to quit the app then reopen it , probably gonna just get the beta version later tonight after my photoshop class.

[ij3ffy]

Believe me, there is a BIG bug in the UT2004 Demo. On Single Processor Macs it runs with maximum the half frame rate, try this:

Open home/library/application support/unreal tournament2004/System/

and edit the UT2004.ini file just with Textedit.

Change:
Channels=6
CacheSizeMegs=32 (your VideoRAMsize)
VARSize= 32 (again)

at OpenGL (not Direct3D ;-):
LevelOfAnisotropy=0

and if you want:
Use16BitTextures=True

These was just small tweaking! Now to work around the bug you MUST turn off audio, to get 2 or 3 times the frame-rate as before (indoor runs very smooth now on my 800Mhz iMacG4, all effects, high resolution, etc.)

THIS IS IMPORTANT (ONLY single-CPU Macs!:
The same file as before:
Open home/library/application support/unreal tournament2004/System/UT2004.ini

UseSound=False

At the Engine.GameEngine!

This is extremely important, turning off the sound works around the bug UT2004 has with single CPU machines. It runs at least twice as fast then. You will see it, now even the menu runs smooth :-)

Dude.. THanx. It helped a lot! plus 15 fps!

[stilldancer]

OK, for all of the people that still have network browsing problems, i have a suggestion. launch Directory Access and check the Active Directoy box. if you do this on both machines it will increase the likelyhood of functional browsing. (at least that's my experience).

it got browsing working for me in 10.3.2 even. (sometimes)

hope this helps...

[7on]

Ok, problems noted:

When the columns view is checked in Finder prefs (always open in column view) Servers you mount, if you open them from the desktop don't open in columns view (though apple did fix this with non server folders)

Some SMBs while browsing will report "Cannot be found" when it should be "Pass/login not correct".

other than that, so far so good. Looking forward to being able to browse again.

[bokdol]

it still doesn't see my iBook or iMac on the network unless I manually feed it the IP address of each, that's total BS.



make sure appletalk is on all the machines the the name will show up in the network menu... but look in the local server folder?? (if you in panther) other wise your have to load in an ip...

[gschumsky]

And the reports keep flying in! Okay, I downloaded it to my Pismo, running a Sonnet g4/500. No problems after restart. BUT, decided to finally download the OSX driver for my contour unimouse. Restarted, and BAM! Just the Apple logo comes up now and stays there(waited a few minutes and still nothing).
Any ideas on how to get past this or remove the evil from Contour (aside from waiting to get home to pop in my Panther disk)?
So, moral for now: Do not try third party drivers that seemed to work fine in Jag (yes it stopped working when I first installed Panther).
CRAP! :mad:

[ultrafiel]

OK, for all of the people that still have network browsing problems, i have a suggestion. launch Directory Access and check the Active Directoy box. if you do this on both machines it will increase the likelyhood of functional browsing. (at least that's my experience).

it got browsing working for me in 10.3.2 even. (sometimes)

hope this helps...

While you're at it also check the Appletalk box. In Panther that was off by default. Not sure if it now is on. I spent a bunch of time trying to figure out why the network at my work wasn't working. Turned on Appletalk and then no problem (this was when Panther came out). This is different then turning on Appletalk in System Prefs/Networking.

[bousozoku]

Somebody give this guy an Oscar *claps*

I made the choice to take the risk of losing any data. ADC members pay a fee to be members, I don't think Apple would stop sending them releases. And when things go wrong, simply reinstall from CD. Save your breath unless you're willing to be helpful.

So, why are you asking for others to help you then? You know the answer. Re-initialise your hard drive and re-install.

[mactastic]

the only time my PB 17" fan comes on is when Im running a large divx file with the thing on my lap...

Mine comes on when I'm folding, but that's hardly surprising. ;)

[DWKlink]

I'm here at work and i notice a big difference in networking. Local shares pop up right away when browsing (used to take 5 secs at least for them all to appear) - and when you connect to a host with multiple partitions, you are shown a new window with a list of the individual partitions to log onto - all the partitions on the host aren't just automatically mounted (networking now functions just like in the good old days of jaguar). Mounted partions now also show up in the left column of your finder window and on the desktop. Everything back to normal. Thanks apple!

[primalman]

First observations on PowerBook G4 ti, 1ghz, 512ram:

1st restart sloooooowwwwww - 4:30
2nd restart better than x.3.2 - 2:15
Snappier overall
Safari render time better
only one or two permissions repaired
Mail much more responsive
Networking wat better! Esp SMB :)
xbench nearly identical total score 94.21 for x.3.2 vs. 94.56 for x.3.3
xvench cpu score way up, while disk score way down

All in all a good update IMHO.

[wrc fan]

Well I installed on my 12" 1GHz, browsed my Windows beast effortlessly and am now sitting here enjoying the sound of my fan. Endlessly. Never used to be on all the time. Is 10.3.3 that hot?

It's probably because when you first boot up into 10.3.3 there is a fix_prebinding script run. So if that takes a long time to run on your computer, it can keep your cpu pegged at 100% for a long time, which will turn your fan on. Though if the script didn't take long then my theory is wrong. :mad:

[shemp9999]

Originally Posted by simply258

I installed 7F43 yesterday. Picked it up on the net. Do I need a Reversioner before installing this final release ? Someone let me know ASAP cause I'm dying to update.

--


i have access, but i waited, cuz i didn't feel like reinstalling when it was coming out in a few days.

maybe you should sync your boot drive somewhere before letting loose with the monkeying. makes for a quicker recovery.

[Paramedic]

You all sound happy. I'll let you know how it goes. No worries.

[DPazdanISU]

I noticed after I installed the update that when searching through my campus' network it would consistently freeze up. Hopefully it was only a two time coincidence! ;)

[crees!]

Originally Posted by simply258

I installed 7F43 yesterday. Picked it up on the net. Do I need a Reversioner before installing this final release ? Someone let me know ASAP cause I'm dying to update.

No, but I could be lying.

[invaLPsion]

Apple has released Mac OS X 10.3.3:

Key enhancements include:

- network volumes are now available in the Finder sidebar and Desktop for convenient access
- improved file sharing and directory services for Mac (AFP), UNIX (NFS) and PC (SMB/CIFS) networks
- improved PostScript and USB printing
- updated Disk Utility, DVD Player, Image Capture, Mail and Safari applications
- additional support for FireWire and USB devices
- improved compatibility for third party applications
- previous standalone security updates and Bluetooth Update 1.5

For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n25711

Powermacs Tomorrow or next week. :)

[daveL]

Would someone post the build number, please? 7F44 was mentioned, but I'm an ADC member, had already installed 7F43 over the weekend, and I'm not seeing the update in SWU. Curious.

[tmornini]

Of course, my iBook and iMac running greatly superior network ease-of-use 10.2 JagWIRE, just go to the "Go" menu in the Finder and boom, everything is there. So I still don't get why Apple effed this up, and why they have made it HARDER to browse the network.

Have you even *considered* the possibility that your problem actually lies
in a bug in Jaguar, and not Panther? Perhaps Jaguar is working, but in an
incompatible way with Panther?

Perhaps if you upgraded the other two, everything would work fine!

[ingenious]

I knew today had to be the day! Oh Y oh Y didn't I bring home my PB? I hope it fixes stability on my PB when I install it tomorrow when I first get there! BTW, what time was it released? Im CST, so i can convert :D

[theranch]

Nevermind. Works fine now.
{Now that I updated to 10.3.3 FinalCutPro 4.0.2 does not work....el crasho! Not good. I'm on a 1ghz MDD w/1mb ram.
:(
Anyone else having a problem?}

[mowogg]

I can't run the update until I get home tonight. Will someone please check something for me?
If you have a third-party LCD monitor, check its listing in the System Profiler and see if it says "CRT"

I have a KOGi L7EH 17" VGA monitor that worked fine with Jaguar, but under Panther it lists as CRT rather than LCD. In addition, some full-screen games give an "out of range" monitor error when I try to play them. I have to force-quit the games to get the monitor back. Everything works fine when I hook up my little Sony 15" CRT and the monitor is detected and listed by model in the displays menu!
This has happened on both my old B&W and my new G5.

Thanks in advance

[ssnmx]

Can somebody tell me if there's an important upgrade in Safari??
It seems to me that it's the same...

Oh wel... :confused:

[DaBuzz]

Is it me, or does Safari seem a bit snappier?

[jettredmont]

I can't run the update until I get home tonight. Will someone please check something for me?
If you have a third-party LCD monitor, check its listing in the System Profiler and see if it says "CRT"


Profiler still says "CRT" for my LCD monitor (VGA analog connection through a KVM switch then a DVI-VGA connector to the second output of the video card ... so your mileage may vary ...)

[amaly76]

I can't run the update until I get home tonight. Will someone please check something for me?
If you have a third-party LCD monitor, check its listing in the System Profiler and see if it says "CRT"

I have a KOGi L7EH 17" VGA monitor that worked fine with Jaguar, but under Panther it lists as CRT rather than LCD. In addition, some full-screen games give an "out of range" monitor error when I try to play them. I have to force-quit the games to get the monitor back. Everything works fine when I hook up my little Sony 15" CRT and the monitor is detected and listed by model in the displays menu!
This has happened on both my old B&W and my new G5.

Thanks in advance

Well I checked my System Profiler and I too have this same listing. I am using a Dell 2001FP.

Albook 867 - 640MB, 60GB, Superdrive. 40GB iPod, Green Mini. Soundsticks. iSight. and hopefully in a few weeks - 2.2ghz G5. :D

[jouster]

Gah...wouldn't you know it....

I've been waiting desperately for this update because of a problem with hangs and freezes....

Of course, for the last five days, my TiBook has been behaving perfectly...

Now I want to see if it can get some significant uptime before I upgrade. Guess I'll wait a couple more days to see how everyone gets on with 10.3.3. Certainly seems like people are pleased.....

[ChoMomma]

My iBook won't finish booting now!!!! HELP!!!

I know.. I should have waited.. but that is well.. just not me.

Ok.. iBook 700/640MB/20GB/CDrom/airport/16mb video

just updated to 10.3.3 and restarted.. on restart I get the Apple Logo screen and then it just shuts down after like 5 seconds.

I'm at school and well.. I really need it NOW!!! This sucks!

Gonna try resetting the PRAM and cross my fingers.

:confused:

*edit: CRAP!!! resetting nvram & pram did NOTHING!! crap crap crap!

[simply258]

A kind gentleman helped me, and here are the instructions for those interested:

open systemversion.plist using pico:

sudo pico /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist

then edit it to say 10.3.2 and 10.3.2's build number 7D24

then remove the 10.3.3 receipt from /Library/Receipts/ folder
you should be good to go to install then.

[themacnetwork]

thank God for the 2.0 mb cable modem....yeesh.

[mowogg]

Well I checked my System Profiler and I too have this same listing. I am using a Dell 2001FP.

Albook 867 - 640MB, 60GB, Superdrive. 40GB iPod, Green Mini. Soundsticks. iSight. and hopefully in a few weeks - 2.2ghz G5. :D


Thanks!

I don't hold out much hope of ever being able to play Soldier of Fortune on my 17"

Oh well, there's always MoHAA!

[mowogg]

Profiler still says "CRT" for my LCD monitor (VGA analog connection through a KVM switch then a DVI-VGA connector to the second output of the video card ... so your mileage may vary ...)

Thanks!
I don't know what's up with that. I was hoping 10.3.3 would fix my monitor prob, but now I don't think so.

Thanks again

[wrc fan]

Now that I updated to 10.3.3 FinalCutPro 4.0.2 does not work....el crasho! Not good. I'm on a 1ghz MDD w/1mb ram.
:(
Anyone else having a problem?

FCP works for me, but I am running 4.1.1, why don't you upgrade to that version to see if that fixes it?

[simply258]

Would someone post the build number, please? 7F44 was mentioned, but I'm an ADC member, had already installed 7F43 over the weekend, and I'm not seeing the update in SWU. Curious.
You need to log into your ADC account and get the reversioner. Then you'll be able to see the update. If you can't get it, read my last post before this to get the update to show and install correctly.

[JohnGillilan]

In case anyone is intersted, here are the version changes for the listed applications. Contrary to the description, ImageCapture and DVD Player retained their same version number.

[EDIT: My status has now been upgraded from member to regular -- I'm glad that a post as nerdy as this one crossed me over!!!]

[theranch]

FCP works for me, but I am running 4.1.1, why don't you upgrade to that version to see if that fixes it?
I have that but for some reason it was crashing. I had an updater lying around and ran that then restarted...works fine now.

[amaly76]

Thanks!

I don't hold out much hope of ever being able to play Soldier of Fortune on my 17"

Oh well, there's always MoHAA!

The following was tested before the 10.3.3 update...

When Unreal Tournament 2004 first started, my monitor tried to auto adjust, and then displayed a screen that was shifted halfway to the left. The default resolution of 800x600 appears to be conflicting with the hardware/software combo. I did test 1024x768, 1280x1024, and 1620x1200 with much success.

[numediaman]

FCP works for me, but I am running 4.1.1, why don't you upgrade to that version to see if that fixes it?

You are absolutely right. If you are using any advanced Apple program such as FCP, DVD SP and the like, I would strongly suggest checking for updates on those programs when updating the OS.

[SoGood]

Is this common on the 12" PB? On both my Pismo 500 and Aluminum PB 1.25 the fan almost never comes on.
Yep, it's a known feature of 10.3.x on 12" PB.
Otherwise this 10.3.3 update has been really smooth. No problems at all. Just don't forget to repair permissions again (well, that's another story).

[Elektronkind]

I don't know if this is a PEBKAC problem or if there's something *really* screwy with my system... but it exists on all three of my Macs:

After updating to 10.3.3, I still can't gain a list of SMB servers to connect to under Finder. If I go to Finder and select "Connect To Server..." and hit the Browse button, I'm just given the Network area of a Finder window.

Now, there's only three empty directories there - Applications, Users, and Library. Never a list of servers or anything.

Any thoughts?

/dale

[7on]

I noticed after I installed the update that when searching through my campus' network it would consistently freeze up. Hopefully it was only a two time coincidence! ;)

Not really. It's been doing the same time here as well. I've found it does it with Windows Computers that are listed on the network, but don't have a folder shared. Of course it'd be nice if you could cancel this like if you manually entered the address from the Cmd+K. Also SMB shares that give you the -50 with the Cmd+K seem to freeze finder while browsing. I'll feedback APPLE.

[lha72]

I installed 10.3.3 and everything worked fine until I tried to use my scanner, an Epson Perfection 3200 Photo and Photoshop Elements 2.0. Got the message, "scanner not installed".

Had to reinstall scanner, then Photoshop Elements kept shutting down. Reinstalled updates to Photoshop Elements.

Restarted the computer (Mac G4 Dual 1 Ghz). No help. Shut down and restarted, took a long time to come back up, then keyboard wouldn't work. Did another shutdown and restarted.

Seems to be working now, in a microsoft windows sort of way.

Sure is nice to see apple and microsoft apparently collaborating on operating systems.

[dloomer]

With all the glowing reviews I must be doing something wrong; however...

SMB with my Win2K server had been sort of flaky for me before (especially when waking from sleep) but it did work. I could click 'Connect...' in Finder under the Network browser, it would prompt me for username and password (which it would never save to the keychain even if I clicked the box), and I'd be connected. Now I go through that same sequence, same username and password, and I get:

The alias "<servername>" could not be opened, because the original item could not be found.

My server is listed right there in the finder ... how could it not be found?

If I do Go/Connect to Server, I type in smb://10.0.0.39, then enter my username and password, and get:

The Finder cannot complete the operation because some data in "smb://10.0.0.39" could not be read or written. (Error code -36).

Again, something must be wrong in my settings or my methods, but at this point it's hard not to say that I'm worse off SMB-wise with 10.3.3 than I was with 10.3.2. At this point, I'm dead in the water.

[Lance Lesslie]

I tried to install 10.3.3 on my dual 2 GHz G5, and it failed. It no longer shows up in the Update Window, but downloading it from Apple and installing it that way meets with the same result. It gets to "writing files: 84%" and reports "error installing software". The OS reports the version as 10.3.3, but there is no 10.3.3 in /Library/Receipts. I think most of the apps updated, but I know the installation didn't totally finish. I didn't install any pre-release versions of the OS (never have), nor do I have any software like a virus scanner that would interfere with the installation. Any ideas?

[millhouse]

just installed it, and now disk utility wont launch at all, it bounces and then crashes, so any disk images i download from safari and such dont even work, this is a bummer, anyone else experiencing this?

[Lance Lesslie]

With all the glowing reviews I must be doing something wrong; however...

SMB with my Win2K server had been sort of flaky for me before (especially when waking from sleep) but it did work. I could click 'Connect...' in Finder under the Network browser, it would prompt me for username and password (which it would never save to the keychain even if I clicked the box), and I'd be connected. Now I go through that same sequence, same username and password, and I get:

The alias "<servername>" could not be opened, because the original item could not be found.

My server is listed right there in the finder ... how could it not be found?

If I do Go/Connect to Server, I type in smb://10.0.0.39, then enter my username and password, and get:

The Finder cannot complete the operation because some data in "smb://10.0.0.39" could not be read or written. (Error code -36).

Again, something must be wrong in my settings or my methods, but at this point it's hard not to say that I'm worse off SMB-wise with 10.3.3 than I was with 10.3.2. At this point, I'm dead in the water.


After reading this, I tried it too and have the same problem. I'm hoping it's just keychain related....

[deepkid]

10.3 was a decent upgrade, but I can definitely feel an improvement in responsiveness after upgrading to 10.3.3.

It took about 2 minutes to restart after installing. I could immediately tell the difference by waving my cursor over the dock. Less syrup, more lucid.

Launched iChat and then Safari.. moved a few windows around in iChat and there wasn't nearly as much hesitation. Ditto for Safari. Up until this update, waving my mouse over a shortcut in Safari and clicking would take up to a second to see a response. This has been elminated.

I've yet to launch photohop or iMovie yet, but look forward to the improvement in response. Hope that this helps.

Titanium Powerbook G4 550, 768MB ram, nearly full 20 GB HD.

[dloomer]

After reading this, I tried it too and have the same problem. I'm hoping it's just keychain related....

You have both of my problems, Lance?

Thing is, I'm not even using keychain. Manually typing the username and password each time.

Funny, after everyone seemed so happy suddenly we have this mini-flood of negative experiences. Not until after I installed, though!

[gwuMACaddict]

i'm a little late to this thread... but oh how i do love updates... :D

[e-coli]

Seems fine to me on a DP 1GHZ MDD.

All is well.

I LOVE the mounted servers. Daddy like. ;)

[nagromme]

For people who find UT 2004 unplayable and thought video drivers would be a miracle... new drivers may help, but there's a BETTER miracle on the way: Epic found a bug in the demo that cuts frame rates in HALF on single-CPU systems. The shipping product (and an updated demo in the works) fixes that, causing framerates to approximately double for single-CPU folks. I found UT2k4 playable in my PowerBook 1.25 already, but I'm sure I'll be happier now, especially for big levels!

Want to see this speedup now? Find "UT2004.ini," open it in TextEdit, and change both instances of "UseSound=True" to read "UseSound=False". (Other methods of reducing sound will NOT work on this particular bug.)

As you may have guessed, you'll lose sound :) BUT you will see a massive speedup--and with the fix in place, we'll have something close to that speed even WITH sound on.

Even my eMac/700--below reqs--handles UT2004 surprisingly well now (although I'd avoid massive battles). Framerates MORE than doubled.

EDIT: someone else posted the same--and other speed tips--on Page 3 of this thread. Rest assured, though, that the "no sound" fix is temporary: Epic plans a patch for the demo, and the retail game was fixed before shipping.

And thanks to all the guinea pigs out there!

(If Rendezvous file sharing between two Macs really works EVERY time--like Rendezvous already does with iTunes and iChat--I'll be pleasantly astonished!)

[centauratlas]

So far so good on a 1Ghz iMac and an 867 G4. Going to do the dual 800 shortly.

[nicorojas]

just installed it, and now disk utility wont launch at all, it bounces and then crashes, so any disk images i download from safari and such dont even work, this is a bummer, anyone else experiencing this?

That´s exactly what happened to me since 10.3.2? Almost all dmg don´t work.

Anybody has a reason for this?

[millhouse]

the weird thing is if i try to use toast to mount the image file instead, toast crashes as well, this jsut doesnt make any sense at all, i deleted disk utility's prefs but its still acting up.

[WinterMute]

Updated on my 1Ghz 17" PowerBook, eveything seems fine, it feels snappier, FCP, DVDSP, ProTools, Logic... All reporting in and seem to work fine, even garageband loads a bit quicker...

I'm sure something will show up, but right now it's looking good.

[Fuchal]

*applauds apple*

10.3.3 is great on my 867Mhz 12".... feels a lot snappier.

:)

[Photorun]

I don't know if this is a PEBKAC problem or if there's something *really* screwy with my system... but it exists on all three of my Macs:

After updating to 10.3.3, I still can't gain a list of SMB servers to connect to under Finder. If I go to Finder and select "Connect To Server..." and hit the Browse button, I'm just given the Network area of a Finder window.

Now, there's only three empty directories there - Applications, Users, and Library. Never a list of servers or anything.

Any thoughts?

/dale

Welcome to the club. Actually since 10.3 i.e. Panther I can't browse my network, Apple's wonder OS has a major issue, it SUCKS for browsing network it was great if not FLAWLESS in 10.2, now this. Checked Apple's techdocs, they even show images and stuff that say you need to know the IP addresses of servers and stuff. Total bogus! :mad:

[bousozoku]

If you haven't noticed, the Character Palette is in the Finder's Edit menu. That may help those of you looking for the Keyboard Viewer.

Has anyone else noticed that the Mozilla/Firefox/Camino text overflow bug seems to be gone?

[Powerbook G5]

Did anyone notice the difference in which permission repairs lists which are not correct? Now instead of simply listing what is off and what the permissions were set at both before and after, it says "We are using special permissions for...." and doesn't list what the permissions are set at anymore.

[fBaran]

Cool! AND I got my 512mb stick for my SpyBook!

[johnnyjibbs]

Believe me, there is a BIG bug in the UT2004 Demo. On Single Processor Macs it runs with maximum the half frame rate, try this:

Open home/library/application support/unreal tournament2004/System/

and edit the UT2004.ini file just with Textedit.

Change:
Channels=6
CacheSizeMegs=32 (your VideoRAMsize)
VARSize= 32 (again)

at OpenGL (not Direct3D ;-):
LevelOfAnisotropy=0

and if you want:
Use16BitTextures=True

These was just small tweaking! Now to work around the bug you MUST turn off audio, to get 2 or 3 times the frame-rate as before (indoor runs very smooth now on my 800Mhz iMacG4, all effects, high resolution, etc.)

THIS IS IMPORTANT (ONLY single-CPU Macs!:
The same file as before:
Open home/library/application support/unreal tournament2004/System/UT2004.ini

UseSound=False

At the Engine.GameEngine!

This is extremely important, turning off the sound works around the bug UT2004 has with single CPU machines. It runs at least twice as fast then. You will see it, now even the menu runs smooth :-)
Thanks a lot! I do get twice the framerate and it is now smooth! But is there a way to get sound with it? I have to have a silent smooth deathmatch, or a choppy one with sound! Can't I have it both ways?

[BeakerAndGreg]

Did anyone notice the difference in which permission repairs lists which are not correct? Now instead of simply listing what is off and what the permissions were set at both before and after, it says "We are using special permissions for...." and doesn't list what the permissions are set at anymore.

I noticed the same thing:

We are using special permissions for the file or directory ./System/Library/Filesystems/cd9660.fs/cd9660.util. New permissions are 33261

[Nicky G]

I noticed the same thing:

We are using special permissions for the file or directory ./System/Library/Filesystems/cd9660.fs/cd9660.util. New permissions are 33261

It has done this in the past, nothing new.

---
thewired.blogs.com/teotwawki
the techno-mediated cultural conspiracy

[MacRAND]

just installed it, and now disk utility wont launch at all, it bounces and then crashes, so any disk images i download from safari and such dont even work, this is a bummer, anyone else experiencing this?Disk Utility does not want to work on my iBook 700 if BEFORE mandatory RESTART. I think that's all it is.

[millhouse]

so you restarted and disk utlity was fine? ive restarted several times but nothing.

[jap4n]

finally.. sheesh, i was wondering when this was gunna be available.

ahhh - i love downloading large files at work.. it gives me a sence of thanks. I mean, its my works way of saying thanks for all my hard work.

zing! :D

[Some_Big_Spoon]

Things are slower on my end, 12" PB Rev.A 640 RAM. Applications take longer the launch, and things are sluggish. Fan "feature" is also still here.. Fan runs all day and night, even outside in the cold, cold night. So, the fan running eats up battery power and my nice PB now needs a clean install of Panther and an update to 10.3.1 and then I wait till something better comes along. :mad:

[nuclearwinter]

I love the new improvements! I might be wrong, but I think that the people who still have problems with things (like networking) are suffering from user error. I just don't screw around with things until I read up on them and do things exactly how they are supposed to be done (like networking). I have no problems, and yes, networking is SUPER FAST under 10.3.3. This really made my day! I could make love to Apple right now.

[Lance Lesslie]

You have both of my problems, Lance?

Thing is, I'm not even using keychain. Manually typing the username and password each time.

Funny, after everyone seemed so happy suddenly we have this mini-flood of negative experiences. Not until after I installed, though!

OK, I figured it out. 10.3.3 mounts the volumes on the "desktop".

[MacRAND]

just installed it, and now disk utility wont launch at all, it bounces and then crashes, so any disk images i download from safari and such dont even work, this is a bummer, anyone else experiencing this?I had the same experience BEFORE a RESTART.
Repair AFTER you RESTART, won't work before.

YES, Disk Utility works fine AFTER a restart.
Cannot find any problems on my iBook 700; everything works smoothly.

[haddiscoe]

Connecting to Windows XP machines via SMB works fine. Unfortunately I still get "The alias <MACHINE> could not be opened, because the original item could not be found" after entering my credentials. So that one isn't fixed yet.

Connecting to the server through AFP:// with the MS UAM installed works fine though.

[DND82]

I just noticed that there is an option for the function keys to perform there default function or custom function. About time Apple address this issue for PB users.

[elgruga]

Installed on my PB 667 dvi/60 gig/1 gig ram

seems a bit slower, or maybe the same. definitely not quicker.

No problems - trying networking.......works fine, appears in sidebar and on desktop then disconnects when I drag it to the trash.

Havent tried Mail yet - dont know if I have the nerve.

[dloomer]

OK, I figured it out. 10.3.3 mounts the volumes on the "desktop".

So what was the behavior you were seeing before? You didn't get the error messages I was getting then, I take it.

Guess this leaves me as the only one with this problem. If it's not a major bug, it's either a minor bug or a bad error message. OS X created that alias (and presumably re-creates it each time I reboot or throw the alias in the trash), if it can't find the original that shouldn't be my problem.

Unless I'm missing something. That's always possible.

[sphereboy]

no problems here. Mail certainly seems way snappier.. and the SMB mounts are awesome! .. I couldn't ask for anything more. Disk Utility works fine for me.

[Lance Lesslie]

So what was the behavior you were seeing before? You didn't get the error messages I was getting then, I take it.

Guess this leaves me as the only one with this problem. If it's not a major bug, it's either a minor bug or a bad error message. OS X created that alias (and presumably re-creates it each time I reboot or throw the alias in the trash), if it can't find the original that shouldn't be my problem.

Unless I'm missing something. That's always possible.

I saw the same errors as you because I didn't realize that the volumes were mounted on the desktop and I clicked connect multiple times. I got the error when attempting to connect to already connected volumes.

[Lance Lesslie]

I still can't figure out how to install 10.3.3 completely. I've tried repairing permissions and optimizing prebindings, with no luck. (I didn't actually think it would work, but it couldn't hurt).

[dloomer]

I saw the same errors as you because I didn't realize that the volumes were mounted on the desktop and I clicked connect multiple times. I got the error when attempting to connect to already connected volumes.

Interesting. At the very least, this isn't a very helpful error message. It almost sounds like an all-purpose networking error message -- anything goes wrong, 10.3.3 tells you "the original item cannot be found."

Anyway, nothing on my desktop. I get the error message from the very first time I attempt to connect.

I guess this isn't the proper place to ask for help (I am posting this on the Apple forums), but I'd be interested to hear if at least one other person has this problem, just so I don't feel so stupid.

[tmornini]

After updating to 10.3.3, I still can't gain a list of SMB servers to connect to under Finder. If I go to Finder and select "Connect To Server..." and hit the Browse button, I'm just given the Network area of a Finder window.
/dale

What options do you have turned on in /Applications/Utilities/Directory Services.app?

Do you have the firewall enabled?

[tmornini]

I just noticed that there is an option for the function keys to perform there default function or custom function. About time Apple address this issue for PB users.

Thank God! Thank Apple!

But, most importantly, thank YOU for telling ME! :-)

I asked for this (via feedback) and I got it. :-)

Now I'm just *waiting* for a two button + scrollwheel bluetooth mouse. :-)

[Hugin777]

just installed it, and now disk utility wont launch at all, it bounces and then crashes, so any disk images i download from safari and such dont even work, this is a bummer, anyone else experiencing this?

Try:
diskutil repairPermissions /
in the Terminal...

Does that do you any good ?

[rjwill246]

Every so often one sees a large number of negative reviews and sometimes they make sense... but now? Could someone explain these... I'm intrigued.

[scarecrow]

PB 17, 1 GHZ, 1 GB RAM

Update worked like a champ. New Networking functionality is nice and even noticed my wireless network gets a little better range... anybody else see a wireless improvement??? :D

[WM.]

I don't know if this is a PEBKAC problem or if there's something *really* screwy with my system... but it exists on all three of my Macs:

After updating to 10.3.3, I still can't gain a list of SMB servers to connect to under Finder. If I go to Finder and select "Connect To Server..." and hit the Browse button, I'm just given the Network area of a Finder window.

Now, there's only three empty directories there - Applications, Users, and Library. Never a list of servers or anything.
That's very interesting. You're seeing the 10.0-10.2 incarnation of the Network icon, which is totally different than in 10.3.

Here's something to try: Go to the Finder preferences, the Sidebar section. Uncheck Network. Maybe log out and back in at this point for good measure. Then check Network again, and see what your Network icon does now. If there are no other servers on the network, at least under 10.3.2 (haven't finished downloading 10.3.3 yet), you'll just get a Servers folder/alias/icon thing. If there are, you'll see a list of them (I think; I've never used Panther with servers outside my home network). That's what Apple now calls network browsing, and that's why clicking Browse in Connect to Server always dumps you back to the Network icon.

HTH
WM

[Gyroscope]

Every so often one sees a large number of negative reviews and sometimes they make sense... but now? Could someone explain these... I'm intrigued.


The only reasonable explanation is that there are so many assholes on this world my friend.
:D

[sonyrules]

I will install it as soon as my 42gb torrent file is done downloading.

Ahh, you found the windows source code.. good luck...

[j33pd0g]

Can you still drag a mounted server into the Startup Items window?

[7on]

Not really. It's been doing the same time here as well. I've found it does it with Windows Computers that are listed on the network, but don't have a folder shared. Of course it'd be nice if you could cancel this like if you manually entered the address from the Cmd+K. Also SMB shares that give you the -50 with the Cmd+K seem to freeze finder while browsing. I'll feedback APPLE.

Also realized that people on campuses might have firewalls on, which might cause Browsing and connecting to hangup (OSX is looking for the share, but never timeouts. With Connect To... you have access to a Cancel button)

[briankonar]

did anyone elses update start d/ling at around 17 MB? very weird. :(

[jhershauer]

I guess the SMB mounts are cool and all, but I'm suprised to not see more complaints about browsing the network. With all prior releases of Panther, I could browse my network seemlessly, without having to constantly bring up the SMB Mount dialog. I could just double-click on one of the servers under "Network" to connect to it and all of the shares showed up as folders that I could quickly and freely browse.

With 10.3.3, if I want to browse the shares on one of my WinXP machines, I have to click on the Server and "Select a share" with the SMB Mount dialog. Then I can go to the sidebar, select that SMB Mount, and browse it. I have to do this for every share I want to browse on the server! Is this not what everybody else is experiencing? This seems like 1 step forward and 2 steps back to me. I'm right back where I was in 10.2.x (but with a nicer finder). I'd gladly give up the "Mount" in the sidebar and/or desktop to be able to easily browse my shares again.

Jeff

[TylerL]

did anyone elses update start d/ling at around 17 MB? very weird. :(
You probably have "download important updates in the background" selected in Software Update.
When you actually triggered the update/install, SU continued its download in progress.

[crees!]

I have a networking question right here for those who don't mind taking a look:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=751694

[tad44]

PowerMac7,3 must be new G5.
Current G5 is PowerMac7,2.

from AppleMacRISC4PE.kext's info.plist:
<key>PowerMac7,2</key>
<string>PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>PowerMac7,3</key>
<string>PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>RackMac3,1</key>
<string>RackMac3_1_PlatformPlugin</string>

[wolfywolfbits]

If when you click on Network you are only seeing the folders "Applications",
"Library", etc try dragging these folders to the trash.. that usually fixes the problem.

The problem is that you've ended up with some local folders in your Network automount directory. Then instead of seeing the auto discovered network aliases, you just see those local directories.

Not sure what causes those dirs to get there, but trashing em will set things back to normal.

[cheb712]

Well, I must be the only on having trouble with this update. Now, when my machine starts up it asks me for the name and password of a 'file server' on the network. BUT all I get is a spinning beachball. It is another computer on my LAN. I've done all the obvious (permissions, delete pref files) reinstall the update but nothing is working. Any ideas?

For my two cents; if you have work to do, don't install this update until next week.

:(

[Rower_CPU]

My MDD and PowerBook are both running perfectly on 10.3.3 now.

[MikeBike]

I guess the SMB mounts are cool and all, but I'm suprised to not see more complaints about browsing the network. With all prior releases of Panther, I could browse my network seemlessly, without having to constantly bring up the SMB Mount dialog. I could just double-click on one of the servers under "Network" to connect to it and all of the shares showed up as folders that I could quickly and freely browse.

With 10.3.3, if I want to browse the shares on one of my WinXP machines, I have to click on the Server and "Select a share" with the SMB Mount dialog. Then I can go to the sidebar, select that SMB Mount, and browse it. I have to do this for every share I want to browse on the server! Is this not what everybody else is experiencing? This seems like 1 step forward and 2 steps back to me. I'm right back where I was in 10.2.x (but with a nicer finder). I'd gladly give up the "Mount" in the sidebar and/or desktop to be able to easily browse my shares again.

Jeff



Anybody have any luck getting to a Server or a Shared folder on a ( Windows ) server thru a VPN connection.
My VPN Connection is working, but, I used to be able to see servers and Shared folders thru this connection in Jaguar, not in Panther.
Any Ideas?

[XnavxeMiyyep]

PowerMac7,3 must be new G5.
Current G5 is PowerMac7,2.

from AppleMacRISC4PE.kext's info.plist:
<key>PowerMac7,2</key>
<string>PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>PowerMac7,3</key>
<string>PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>RackMac3,1</key>
<string>RackMac3_1_PlatformPlugin</string>
Hopefully you're right. We may know tomorrow. :D


Anyway, 10.3.2 slowed down my system a bit when I installed it, but now with 10.3.3, it's running faster than ever.

[oingoboingo]

New drivers, but doesn't help playability of UT2k4 on a powerbook 1ghz 12", it is still unplayable.. ohh well.. Powerbooks aren't gaming machines anyways..

That's a shame to hear. I was hoping the nVidia drivers would be improved and we might see a decent increase in 12" PowerBook 3D game frame rates. That's my only real complaint with the 1GHz 12" PowerBook...poor 3D performance with popular games. I know everyone says "PowerBooks aren't gaming machines", but there's no real reason for that...it just seems like an excuse to cover up their generally low performance on 3D games. They're good all-round systems...and that should include games.

Hopefully with the revision C 12" PB (if there even is a revision C) Apple will put something a little more powerful than the nVidia GeForce FX 5200 in there...maybe the ATI Radeon 9600 Mobility and the 15" and 17" will get upgraded to the newly release Radeon 9700 Mobility. Here's hoping...

[nagromme]

Misc. responses:

There are sure to be some things in this update relevant to future hardware. That does not mean the hardware will come soon... although I'd really like to see a new iBook in the morning :)

Negative reports always appear more on forums that the reality of people's experiences. People with problems NEED to post to get answers! Most other people won't post to say "all is well." A fraction will--but the reality is that a forum always shows a distorted proportion of problems. (I'm still going to wait and learn more about any problems that do emerge, just in case!)

Negative votes? A few is to be expected... but half negative? I think we have a single troll clicking the negative link a lot. Now THAT's a new definition of pathetic :D

[Get A Mac]

Has anybody done the combined upgrade from 10.3.1 to 10.3.3? If so, how did it go? Thanks.

[AdamR01]

Would someone with samba working be willing to post their smb.conf file or send it to me? I'm curious to see how different it is from mine since samba isnt working for me.

[rog]

Has anybody done the combined upgrade from 10.3.1 to 10.3.3? If so, how did it go? Thanks.

Is there even a combined update out yet? That's usually what I use but I didn't see it posted.

My biggest complaint is that they still haven't solved the scroll wheel problem in Safari. With my Intellimouse optical explorer, in other applications like Mozilla, a quick turn of the scroll wheel moves the screen down 1 page. In Safari, no matter how fast I scroll the wheel, it just moves a 1/3 page at most. It is so annoying that I rarely use Safari because of it. Maybe it's a cocoa app thing.

[simX]

Just in case someone was wondering:

Once you start a major software update, it is completely NORMAL for any application to fail to launch -- Disk Utility or otherwise. Mac OS X has done this since Jaguar, and it's nothing to be worried about. You can continue to use any open applications during the update, but if you want to launch any more applications, you'll need to do a restart.

Moral of the story: the restart really is required.

[Duff-Man]

Has anybody done the combined upgrade from 10.3.1 to 10.3.3? If so, how did it go? Thanks.Duff-Man says...it is not unusual for the "combo" updater to not show up for a day or two. I usually grab a copy in case I ever want to re-install....oh yeah!

[Get A Mac]

Is there even a combined update out yet? That's usually what I use but I didn't see it posted.

My biggest complaint is that they still haven't solved the scroll wheel problem in Safari. With my Intellimouse optical explorer, in other applications like Mozilla, a quick turn of the scroll wheel moves the screen down 1 page. In Safari, no matter how fast I scroll the wheel, it just moves a 1/3 page at most. It is so annoying that I rarely use Safari because of it. Maybe it's a cocoa app thing.

I see the Combined Updater in my Software Update (it's 69.9 MB). I'm just worried because 10.3.2 didn't work for me, and I don't want to reinstall Panther again. Since 10.3.1 has been perfect, I may wait awhile to update.

[crees!]

My biggest complaint is that they still haven't solved the scroll wheel problem in Safari. With my Intellimouse optical explorer, in other applications like Mozilla, a quick turn of the scroll wheel moves the screen down 1 page. In Safari, no matter how fast I scroll the wheel, it just moves a 1/3 page at most. It is so annoying that I rarely use Safari because of it. Maybe it's a cocoa app thing.

As far as I'm concerned this is not a problem. This is always how it has worked for me in Safari and on Windows machines and I see nothing wrong with it. I think... on Windows machines (in IE) you can specify how far one scroll on the mouse moves the page.. whether it be 3 lines, 4 lines, or whatever..

[Get A Mac]

Duff-Man says...it is not unusual for the "combo" updater to not show up for a day or two. I usually grab a copy in case I ever want to re-install....oh yeah!

You can find the 10.3.3 combo updater at the link below. Enjoy :-)

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25713

[sjk]

Up until this update, waving my mouse over a shortcut in Safari and clicking would take up to a second to see a response. This has been elminated.I notice that, too.

And the tab bar now has a separator line between it and the bookmarks (or status) bar above it.

[g.money]

What's your network setup? I have an IP number for my computer but most others in the house get a LAN number off the Airport base station. I couldn't see everyone until I defined a LAN ethernet for my computer and let it pick up a LAN number too. Now everything works great and everyone shows up on a browse as well as all the Rendezvous shared printers.

Can you (or anyone else) explain how this works? What do I need to setup in sys prefs to "define a LAN ethernet". I'm working wireless but the rest of the network is hardwired. Usually I have to search for the ip's...can you elaborate on your solution a bit? Thx

[darkwing]

They still haven't fixed the transparent terminal bug which was present in 10.3 and also in 10.1 (and was fixed soon after that) but absent in Jaguar. Apple sure is a **** company.

[Counterfit]

And the tab bar now has a separator line between it and the bookmarks (or status) bar above it. Aw man, I like the way it looks v125, it looks very clean and smooth.

[crees!]

Can you (or anyone else) explain how this works? What do I need to setup in sys prefs to "define a LAN ethernet". I'm working wireless but the rest of the network is hardwired. Usually I have to search for the ip's...can you elaborate on your solution a bit? Thx

Are you talking about viewing other Windows PCs on the network or other Mac's?

[gerlitzappel]

I have downloaded and installed the update on both my 1GHz eMac and my Power Tower Pro 200 (w/XPostFacto). Everything is fine, so far. Gaining access to and mounting network drives seems quicker.

[Duff-Man]

You can find the 10.3.3 combo updater at the link below. Enjoy :-)

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25713Duff-Man says...yeah, thanks...but as far as I can see the link is just to Apple's d/l page and there is no combo listed there quite yet.....oh yeah!

[Duff-Man]

Apple sure is a **** company.Duff-Man says.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: oh yeah!

[ChoMomma]

Well, when running on a 78% charged battery at school. I could not restart my iBook after the update. It's like a car that almost turns over, but then quits.

So fastforward a few hours and here I sit plugged into the power adapter and it starts right up. If that isn't just plain friggin' messed up I don't know what is. It shouldn't require wall power to start an iBook after an OS update. It's a portable for Pete's Sake! But it's running now and it's got that Apple Branded "Snappy" after the OS update feel :D

So, after that scare I am not a happy Mac Addict once again :>D

[dloomer]

Would someone with samba working be willing to post their smb.conf file or send it to me? I'm curious to see how different it is from mine since samba isnt working for me.

My Samba isn't working either Adam, so sorry I can't help you ... but out of curiosity, was yours working in 10.3.2?

[Rower_CPU]

They still haven't fixed the transparent terminal bug which was present in 10.3 and also in 10.1 (and was fixed soon after that) but absent in Jaguar.

Care to elaborate on the bug? I haven't heard anything about that...

[AdamR01]

My Samba isn't working either Adam, so sorry I can't help you ... but out of curiosity, was yours working in 10.3.2?

Well aparently I had an IP adress wrong. Samba is working still. Before I reloaded my computer though, I had browsing working and i could see all my windows machines on the network. That was with 10.3.2 I beleive. I wish I could get the browsing working again so I dont need to know the ip adresses of all the computers at home!

[mowogg]

The following was tested before the 10.3.3 update...

When Unreal Tournament 2004 first started, my monitor tried to auto adjust, and then displayed a screen that was shifted halfway to the left. The default resolution of 800x600 appears to be conflicting with the hardware/software combo. I did test 1024x768, 1280x1024, and 1620x1200 with much success.

Thanks for the input. Most games work fine. I can play MoHAA, Halo, the new Nanosaur 2 (very cool game), but Soldier of Fortune, Ghost Recon, and others are a no-go. I've tried different resolutions in the game, but to no avail. I still am getting out of range errors from my monitor. It has a maximum horizontal resolution of 75 (hz or Mhz, can't remember exactly) and I get 83 - 95 in the games that won't work and the screen goes black. The game still runs, I can hear the sound, it just won't set the right refresh rate.

Tahnks again!

[dwater]

I am doing a backup before upgrading...

Can someone check out the new version of Safari to see if it works with hushmail http://www.hushmail.com/?

If you don't already have an account and don't want to create one, you can try going here :

http://www.hushtools.com/

select 'key management' from the top of the page
select 'retrieve a public key' from the left hand side of the page
enter 'davidmaxwaterman AT mac DOT husmail DOT com' in the email address field
click 'retrieve public key'

See if the Java/Javascript works properly. They claim that it works with Safari, but I haven't managed to get it working at all - I have all the correct versions, as far as I can tell.

Max.

[crees!]

Well aparently I had an IP adress wrong. Samba is working still. Before I reloaded my computer though, I had browsing working and i could see all my windows machines on the network. That was with 10.3.2 I beleive. I wish I could get the browsing working again so I dont need to know the ip adresses of all the computers at home!

Make sure to configure SMB in Applications/Utilities/Directory Access so that the Workgroup is the same. That fixed it for me.

[AdamR01]

Make sure to configure SMB in Applications/Utilities/Directory Access so that the Workgroup is the same. That fixed it for me.

I did that already, thanks though. :)

Edit:
Ok, I lied, I had the workgroup in all caps. I feel really stupid now.

[Krizoitz]

This thread was posted about 8 and a half hours ago. In that time it has been viewed almost 36,000 times, that comes to one view per SECOND. Assuming that this isn't a constant rate, thats a lot of people viewing this thread at peak times.

[michaelrjohnson]

i seem to not be able to get the update. i can d/l but not expand the installer. it can't verify. my buddy and i have tried everything we can think of. suggestions?

[fortgreen1]

mail seems to run (changing views among multiple mailboxes) SO MUCH FASTER.... meaning,,,
each mailbox load faster.but scrolling got slower in ???

I like it so far....

[darkwing]

Care to elaborate on the bug? I haven't heard anything about that...

If you open terminal and set it to transparent, you can see the bug by typing "ls" a couple of times or doing something that puts some text on the window. Then, you click on the desktop (or another window) to deselect the terminal window and then click back on the terminal window. When you scroll the text on the window by (by pressing return a few times) you will see the text that was there when the window was reselected "ghosted" against the transparent background. There was a forum about it if you go to http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20001120133050864 and search for "ghosted text." Unfortunately the screnshot example is now dead. I can take one for you if you like. I have duplicated this problem on two different powerbook g4s.

[Rower_CPU]

If you open terminal and set it to transparent, you can see the bug by typing "ls" a couple of times or doing something that puts some text on the window. Then, you click on the desktop (or another window) to deselect the terminal window and then click back on the terminal window. When you scroll the text on the window by (by pressing return a few times) you will see the text that was there when the window was reselected "ghosted" against the transparent background. There was a forum about it if you go to http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20001120133050864 and search for "ghosted text." Unfortunately the screnshot example is now dead. I can take one for you if you like. I have duplicated this problem on two different powerbook g4s.

Interesting. I'm seeing the same thing on my PB, too. I've never noticed this before because I don't set my transparency that low.

[Doctor Q]

It doesn't sound like a very important bug, but it's still surprising that they didn't attend to it.

[Gaffa Bug]

I've noticed a bit of a problem actually. Maybe it's just for myself, but any DVD that I now play has blocks of distortion when an image moves quickly across the screen. It's quite bad. Anyone else notice this???

867 SP Quicksilver
1.5 GB RAM

[mclosers]

with 10.3 my firewire hard drive and firewire camera (min dv) don't work at the same time i have to unplug one of them for the other to work. but when i start up in 10.2.8 they work together fine. The same thing happens on my friend's computer running 10.3 ... Is that fixed in 10.3.3

[michaelrjohnson]

any reasons why the installer wouldn't verify/mount? (see above)

[ZildjianKX]

Is there any way to explore a PC's shared folder over the network without Samba mounting it?

In 10.3.2 I'm pretty sure you could explore it without having each shared folder mounted as a drive... :confused:

[hulugu]

I was kidding earlier...

installed 10.3.3 on all my machines (see sig) and everything is behaving, furthermore, Safari appear to render faster, and it repaired my SAMBA connection at work, so good stuff for me, but then I've been blessed even during the 10.2.8 debacle.

[visor]

samba network browsing doesnt work anymore. now I'll have to mount every smb share y hand again, just like jaguar - i hate that.

[visor]

I hate 'em all.
So great - they modified the SMB Browsing again. Mean to say, they turened it off, all back to manual again. So guess what - the manually mounted directories have different mount points. that means all aliases need to be changed... REALLY GREAT IDEA IF YOU HAVE 3000 SONGS ON A SAMBA SHARE THAT SUDDENLY ALL POINT TO NOWHERE IN ITUNES.

[Deltan]

Bingo!

I doubt there will be a G5 announcement before the 30th -- but you can't rule it out now. There certainly could be other announcements: displays, QuickTime, other software updates.

This is great news -- my credit card is ready to go.

Now, we need some rumors about these new G5s. For instance, will there be new memory requirements? what about optical drives? will be get a speed up in the burners?
I think I will throw up if there's a PBG5 announced any time before the Fall. After just buying a 12" PB against my better judgement I'll be livid if a G5 comes out so soon after. :mad:

Heh there's only 2 or 3 days in a year where it's "safe" to buy a Mac.

[jbrown]

In Jagwire I had the option to download updates to the desktop, which I liked to do so I could keep a collection of updates for when I had to do an fresh system install. While I can still install updates to my machine, I can't to the desktop -- where do they go to now, and can I ( once I've found them! ) safeley move them to my 'Upgrades " folder??

cheers,

[coolcsh]

I can't believe that Apple still can't get SMB to work right. After installing 10.3.3 it first appeared that things were working better. Although I consider the weird mode of mounting every share to the Finder and Desktop a downgrade. But an hour later after having my powerbook sleep I found that once again the shares just disappear when browsing. I can get them to come up by typing the IP address in connect to server just like 10.3, 10.3.1, 10.3.2. It is beyond me how the engineers at Apple can't duplicate all the problems we have been having since 10.3. I'm losing faith.

[Multimedia]

Well, it's a bit snappier, restart shaved a second off my 1.8 DP G5 with 2.5 GB RAM, from 13 seconds down to 12, that's not to shabby. However networking HASN'T changed, it still doesn't see my iBook or iMac on the network unless I manually feed it the IP address of each, that's total BS. Of course, my iBook and iMac running greatly superior network ease-of-use 10.2 JagWIRE, just go to the "Go" menu in the Finder and boom, everything is there. So I still don't get why Apple effed this up, and why they have made it HARDER to browse the network. Other than that, in general, SFDD.

I'm bummed. And still no driver improvements for the Epson 880, no ability to choose quality or B&W vs. Color.... hmmm, Apple's engineer's heads are up their arses. :mad:

WRONG WRONG WRONG

Apple's Engineers have done a remarkable job of making networking almost effortless and seamless. There is obviously something very wrong with your system. I have a 10.2.8 node and it is readily available on both my Panther nodes in a matter of seconds. Having mounted volumes appear in the finder window's left pane is an outstanding improvement in the networking paradigm.

And my Jaguar 10.2.8 node is rapidly mounting the Panther volumes in the old style. You better do a clean install and start over. That will get rid of all your complaints. They are misdirected at Apple engineering instead of yourself.

[mdriftmeyer]

Well, it's a bit snappier, restart shaved a second off my 1.8 DP G5 with 2.5 GB RAM, from 13 seconds down to 12, that's not to shabby. However networking HASN'T changed, it still doesn't see my iBook or iMac on the network unless I manually feed it the IP address of each, that's total BS. Of course, my iBook and iMac running greatly superior network ease-of-use 10.2 JagWIRE, just go to the "Go" menu in the Finder and boom, everything is there. So I still don't get why Apple effed this up, and why they have made it HARDER to browse the network. Other than that, in general, SFDD.

I'm bummed. And still no driver improvements for the Epson 880, no ability to choose quality or B&W vs. Color.... hmmm, Apple's engineer's heads are up their arses. :mad:

If you are going to complain at least post via the code tag your Network Configuration file containing your DHCP settings (presumably) and if you are utilizing NetInfo your Master/Slave settings, etc...

[mdriftmeyer]

I can't believe that Apple still can't get SMB to work right. After installing 10.3.3 it first appeared that things were working better. Although I consider the weird mode of mounting every share to the Finder and Desktop a downgrade. But an hour later after having my powerbook sleep I found that once again the shares just disappear when browsing. I can get them to come up by typing the IP address in connect to server just like 10.3, 10.3.1, 10.3.2. It is beyond me how the engineers at Apple can't duplicate all the problems we have been having since 10.3. I'm losing faith.

This statement presumes you have Samba Server configured correctly and aren't utilizing a version that is not supported by Apple, correct?

[oeholmen]

One client (TiBook800) and one server (PowerMac G4 400) updated. No problems!

[zync]

Man, why didn't I check MacRumors before I left school....I could be having 10.3.3 goodness right now....instead I'll have to find some time to update during my class tomorrow....gonna be annoying though, we're having a crit....

[piira]

From the update:

"network volumes are now available in the Finder sidebar and Desktop for convenient access"

Hasn't this been the case since a while back now (atleast couple months since I got my Panther). Mounted network shares always appeared on desktop and in finder sidebar, this is nothing new? Or is there now a way to make panther "remember" old shares so that I don't have to reconnect to them? Making an alias doesn't seem to work atleast for smb-shares, it just produces an "Item not found" -message.

Also, is there a way to get rid of that bloody attack of the disconnect-alert boxes after the comp wakes up from sleep (or network is disconnected)? Quite annoying when you have multiple smb-mounts and every single one produces atleast 2 dialogs.

[zync]

Is there even a combined update out yet? That's usually what I use but I didn't see it posted.

My biggest complaint is that they still haven't solved the scroll wheel problem in Safari. With my Intellimouse optical explorer, in other applications like Mozilla, a quick turn of the scroll wheel moves the screen down 1 page. In Safari, no matter how fast I scroll the wheel, it just moves a 1/3 page at most. It is so annoying that I rarely use Safari because of it. Maybe it's a cocoa app thing.

I noticed that too! If it's not fixed now I'll have to report it to Apple. I had to turn up the sensitivity on my Intellimouse so that it goes at a semi comfortable speed...it could still be faster with it set all the way up! Image how fast that makes other applications! Oh well, at least it doesn't do the choppy craptastic scroll that IE does :D

As far as I'm concerned this is not a problem. This is always how it has worked for me in Safari and on Windows machines and I see nothing wrong with it. I think... on Windows machines (in IE) you can specify how far one scroll on the mouse moves the page.. whether it be 3 lines, 4 lines, or whatever..


Windows IE scrolling was never this slow. I'm using the same mouse I used to use on it and it's drastically slower even if you tell OS X to go really sensitive with the scroll wheel!

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Nevermind. Works fine now.
{Now that I updated to 10.3.3 FinalCutPro 4.0.2 does not work....el crasho! Not good. I'm on a 1ghz MDD w/1mb ram.
:(
Anyone else having a problem?}
Your "Problem" is that you have not kept your Final Cut Pro UP-TO-DATE. Currently we are at 4.1.1 and have been for some time. :p

[zync]

I think I will throw up if there's a PBG5 announced any time before the Fall. After just buying a 12" PB against my better judgement I'll be livid if a G5 comes out so soon after. :mad:

Heh there's only 2 or 3 days in a year where it's "safe" to buy a Mac.

Yeah, when they announce them!