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MacBytes
Mar 18, 2004, 12:17 AM
Category: 3rd Party Hardware
Link: Microsoft prepares \'iPod killer\' for Europe (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20040318011747)
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ALoLA
Mar 18, 2004, 12:27 AM
Is there anything Microsuck won't steal from Apple? :confused: At $700-$800? And people thought the iPod was expensive!

noxes
Mar 18, 2004, 12:38 AM
That thing sounds like packing a brick around. And USB for transfer, imagine transfering a movie over. Jees, iPod killer my @$$

masterthespian
Mar 18, 2004, 01:54 AM
I'm so excited to watch my favourite widescreen action movies on a screen may be 3 x 4 inches in size...ridiculous. At twice the price of an ipod. That's a killer. I can't wait for Christmas 2004 to see this thing flop.

I love this quote the best "They could then download from a news-oriented Web site a roundup of the day's news to watch on the train. " If this is the best scenario that Microcrap can give us then Apple has nothing to worry about. Bernard has got an incredible imagination. This guy is a joke.

"By definition, they just don't have widespread appeal," said Mark Mulligan Gotta love this quote though. Insert sword and twist.

mT

redAPPLE
Mar 18, 2004, 02:02 AM
they did their best to not say the "2 words", which is: digital hub.

JohnGillilan
Mar 18, 2004, 02:07 AM
I'll be interested to see how these supposed 4th generation iPods size up to this Microsoft device . . .

Savage Henry
Mar 18, 2004, 02:08 AM
Careful people, it may be a success, remember that old expression "He who laughs last, laughs loudest".

However, I'm going to be laughing at this for so long that I'm going to be institutionalised on medication and not care.

Why is it set at the price of a small and more highly resourced laptop?

Sheeesh!

winmacguy
Mar 18, 2004, 03:48 AM
iTMS is supposed to be available in Europe from some time after June, which means that iPods and iPod owners will be in their element purchasing songs and taking them where ever they go.

Jonathan Ive designed the iPod to represent an addiction, something you need, something you couldnt be without during your day, something that would be with you at all times but also he designed it to be discreet, a device you could carry in your shirt or hip pocket or clip to your armband, something that you can listen to but do not have to watch so it does not distract your visual attention from what ever else you are doing ( like trying to walk down a crowded street or cross a buisy road) In short he designed the musical version of a packet of cigarettes except that the iPod is slimmer than a packet of cigarettes.

It is adicitive but it does not necessarily damage your health such as a smoking a pack of cigarettes might.

Bill Gates has come up with an invention that is 3 times the weight of an iPod and longer than an iPod (so it wont fit in your shirt pocket- it might fit in your cargo pants pocket though). Very tricky to watch while walking down a crowded foot path.

Which would u rather have in your pocket, a brick or a pack of cigarettes(iPod)?

filipp
Mar 18, 2004, 04:36 AM
Jeez
This whole concept sounds just wrong. If they want people to use this gadget on the road, they better cut the size and weight by 3!

An iPod-like player with a small color screen for sorting photos taken on your camera, and maybe previewing a movie before you plug it in your TV for watching sounds better to me.

/ f

Stella
Mar 18, 2004, 06:35 AM
I can see MS tatics now...

"Sell our media player and you'll get a discount on your Windows license.. sell the iPod and see your windows license disappear...".


iPod for many is also a fasion item. The MS brick is anything but...

Photorun
Mar 18, 2004, 06:48 AM
Again, more proof Apple innovates, everyone just cheaply copies. "iPod Killer" my arse, I know imitation is a form of flattery but it's one form I've gotten tired of over the last 20 years of watching one company basically do the best stuff on the planet, everyone else to sh**ty copies and actually make money and get praise from ********** like they are doing something good.

MacFan782040
Mar 18, 2004, 08:04 AM
Again, more proof Apple innovates, everyone just cheaply copies. "iPod Killer" my arse, I know imitation is a form of flattery but it's one form I've gotten tired of over the last 20 years of watching one company basically do the best stuff on the planet, everyone else to sh**ty copies and actually make money and get praise from ********** like they are doing something good.

A MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sabenth
Mar 18, 2004, 08:17 AM
A MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

agreed !!!!

brick term sounds funny ..

Adictive thing is even better

1macker1
Mar 18, 2004, 08:34 AM
Apple didnt invent the mp3 player.
Again, more proof Apple innovates, everyone just cheaply copies. "iPod Killer" my arse, I know imitation is a form of flattery but it's one form I've gotten tired of over the last 20 years of watching one company basically do the best stuff on the planet, everyone else to sh**ty copies and actually make money and get praise from ********** like they are doing something good.

Capt Underpants
Mar 18, 2004, 08:53 AM
Apple didnt invent the mp3 player.
Of course not. They did, however, make an MP3 player cool. Others soon followed in apples footsteps.

RHutch
Mar 18, 2004, 08:54 AM
Apple didnt invent the mp3 player.

Nobody said that Apple invented the mp3 player. But they have done things with it that no one else did. I think that's what innovating means. I think you are confusing "innovate" and "invent".

drizahy4
Mar 18, 2004, 08:56 AM
I think it just sounds list a big brick by the size of it.
at least the new .8mm 4gb hard drives are coming out. Wonder what apple will cram the into.

pgwalsh
Mar 18, 2004, 12:14 PM
Three times as thick and twice as long is certainly not an iPod killer. ZDNet just gave it that title to get people to read it. It's 6 times the size of the iPod and people want smaller, not bigger. It certainly wont be the MP3 replacement. Video may be adopted at some point, but the only real use is to have it in cars (for kids) and on airplanes.

Don't let the title of the article fool you, it was only to get you to read it.

dracoleb
Mar 18, 2004, 12:34 PM
The only thing that I'm concerned about is what people will see in compatibility. I remember when I was showing my brother my iPod he was like "wow, that's really cool. Does Microsoft make one?" I spent the next half hour trying to explain that even though Apple makes the iPod it will work on his PC. I hope people don't see a Microsoft player and say "oh, that must be for me, and that iPod must be for those Apple people"

pgwalsh
Mar 18, 2004, 12:46 PM
The only thing that I'm concerned about is what people will see in compatibility. I remember when I was showing my brother my iPod he was like "wow, that's really cool. Does Microsoft make one?" I spent the next half hour trying to explain that even though Apple makes the iPod it will work on his PC. I hope people don't see a Microsoft player and say "oh, that must be for me, and that iPod must be for those Apple people"I hear ya... I've had to explain it to a few people too. They didn't know iTunes will run on W2K or XP either. They flipped out when I showed them how to purchase music online... Instant addiction... Funny thing is, I've never purchased music from iTMS for myself...

the_mole1314
Mar 18, 2004, 01:01 PM
Imortant note is that M$ is not making the player, just the software to play it. All the specs are from other people's products.

As I've said before, there is a small market for a device that is not passive. The Walkman was passive. The iPod is passive. This is not passive. Unlike a video game or a cell phone, all your attention must be given for long periods of time to this one device. For the same amount of money, you can get a G3 iBook that can play DVDs in a bigger resolution and longer battery life. Calling this an iPod Killer is like saying the plane will end the use of cars, they arn't even in the same league.

winmacguy
Mar 18, 2004, 01:18 PM
I hear ya... I've had to explain it to a few people too. They didn't know iTunes will run on W2K or XP either. They flipped out when I showed them how to purchase music online... Instant addiction... Funny thing is, I've never purchased music from iTMS for myself...

I have encounterd that at school myself explaing to people that my iPod works on PC as well as Mac. They are mostly surprised to learn that it has a 20GB HD. A lot of people are just set in their ways of using a PC with tunnel vision. Also with Apple being different some people find it "harder" because it is not Microsoft and they are not used to Apple.

The biggest issue in NZ for iPods is the cost (compared to US) the 20GB version here retails at approx $799 NZ which makes it more expensive (taking the NZ - US conversion into account) than if I bought it in the US. The 40GB version costs approx $1,000 NZ which would be about 680.00 US going on the current exchange rate.

montex
Mar 18, 2004, 01:36 PM
Let me see if I get this... M$ thinks the people who are unwilling to spend more than $500 on their PCs are going to buy a 'media player' at $700 to $800? Riiiiight.

ingenious
Mar 18, 2004, 01:41 PM
Is there anything Microsuck won't steal from Apple? :confused: At $700-$800? And people thought the iPod was expensive!

I agree! What have the NOT copied off of apple? shortcuts, GUI, start menu (apple menu) My Computer/ Explorer (finder), now the iPod, Video Editing, wmp is a copy off of Quicktime it seems like...... but QT is soooo much better! I wish apple had one that lawsuit for the GUI!

winmacguy
Mar 18, 2004, 03:00 PM
Lets not forget the HP PCs with the iTunes icon mounted on the desktop being being shipped world wide from April(in PC supplier stores from the end of this month) and playing songs on their HP branded iPod.

MS will also be competeing against HP customers buying one of these PCs when selling its MS Portable Media Player

Note I have seen a colour Pic of the HP iPod in print and it looks a lot better then the screen shot of Carly showing her one at the Las Vegas Expo 107,000 outlets worldwide (including Europe) all selling HP branded PCs to PC purchasing customers

the_mole1314
Mar 18, 2004, 03:02 PM
Funny thing is that those who probably want this already have a TV/DVD in the car or a laptop to play movies on. Unless you can tape shows and put them on there, then this thing will fall by the wayside. People want something the same size of or smaller than the comparable products out there. For most people, they can only get music onto it since they don't have fast internet connections to download movies. For just an MP3 player, you can get one cheaper than that, it's called an iPod. ;)

As said before, M$ is producing the software, others are producing the hardware.

mac_lowlife
Mar 18, 2004, 03:16 PM
The only thing that Microsoft should be concentrating on "killing" are the numerous viruses affecting its products. I can't wait until the users of said "killer" try to navigate clumsily to a movie file only to find a Viagra or Penis Enlargement Ad...but then again, maybe that's what pc users may need.

mrsebastian
Mar 18, 2004, 05:15 PM
how is this even considered an ipod killer? comparatively, this thing will be a monster and not very portable. the ipod and mini are about music first and foremost, yes movies would be cool, but the form factor is the biggest reason for the ipods success... next.