Al Qaeda claims to have suitcase nukes

[pseudobrit]

Osama bin Laden's terror network claims to have bought ready-made nuclear weapons on the black market in central Asia, the biographer of al-Qaida's No. 2 leader was quoted as telling an Australian television station.

In an interview scheduled to be televised on Monday, Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir said Ayman al-Zawahri claimed that "smart briefcase bombs" were available on the black market.

link (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=6&u=/ap/20040321/ap_on_re_au_an/al_qaida_nuclear)

Bush's "tough" stance on terror is going to look pretty stupid if it ends up getting us nuked. Then again, I think it'd be the best thing to ever happen to his Presidency. Up to this point, 9/11 gave them carte blanche and they appeared very enthusiastic and unabashed about taking advantage of it to acheive their own unrelated goals (namely Iraq and the PATRIOT acts).

Who was it on here that said national security was the most important issue to them because nothing else matters if you're dead? Does Bush's unilateral "**** the world" attitude just put us at high risk for nuclear attack? How many more people would be willing to fund the purchase of such devices after we've "proved" al Qaeda's case for them: that we're hegemonists bent on overtaking the Muslim world?

[skunk]

Bush's "tough" stance on terror is going to look pretty stupid if it ends up getting us nuked.

The thing about "suitcase bombs" is that they don't even have to be targeted: one person leaving one anywhere in or even near a metropolitan area would finish the economy of any country. Bush has in effect mobilised an enormous army of willing martyrs who might pull this off. He has declared war on many fronts without putting America on a war footing (because he seems to think this "war" is a one-way street: nobody would DARE attack America again). Surely this is the height of irresponsibility. He has put the entire country (as has Bliar here, and Aznar in Spain) at incalculable risk for the sake of political dogma. Compared to what might happen next, 9/11 was a light aperitif. Less than 3,000 US civilians killed, two nations get bombed to blazes. Imagine what would happen if it was the other way round! Afghanistan, Iraq, N Korea, N Vietnam, Central and S America - how many more civilians has the US killed in these places? Not to mention the 300,000-plus in the Philippines, and God knows how many killed by US proxies. There's a whole lotta people with reason enough to hate the US. You can't bomb them all.

[zimv20]

can't fight entropy w/ more entropy. gotta put energy into reducing the chaos. i wish bush had taken a physics class along the way...

[numediaman]

can't fight entropy w/ more entropy. gotta put energy into reducing the chaos. i wish bush had taken a physics class along the way...

Bush in a physics class . . . ah, the images.

Professor: Welcome back. Today I would like to talk about the Transactional Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics . . .

Bush: excuse me professor, when do we get to talk about Adam and Eve?

Professor: It may seem surprising that the interpretation of a physical theory can perform the function of avoiding "paradoxes", i.e., internal contradictions and conflicts with other established theories. It is therefore useful to consider some examples. Newton's second law, F=ma, is of no physical significance until the symbol F is identified as a vector representing force . . .

Bush: ah, excuse me, but is there any way I can get a deferment? I need to go to Alabama to help with an election campaign. Can you just give me an A, and we'll be done with it?

[Dale Sorel]

Who was it on here that said national security was the most important issue to them because nothing else matters if you're dead?

That was me... maybe you can tell me how much happier you'll be after your taxes are lowered and you're in the ground :p

[3rdpath]

i'm pretty skeptical of the suitcase bomb claim...though i don't doubt their desire to purchase one. they make it sound as easy as buying a hot watch....which it's obviously not. just take 30 million to asia and ask the local cabbie where the bomb district is...ntm, how would you know you're buying a real functional nuclear weapon? i'm certainly no expert but i'd say the odds are miniscule that they've got a nuke...at least right now.

the other issue is that al-quida doesn't threaten or boast before they act...they just do it. i always feel much more secure when they're talking of black plague and nuclear bombs. it's the eerie silence i find uncomfortable.

[pseudobrit]

That was me... maybe you can tell me how much happier you'll be after your taxes are lowered and you're in the ground :p

And there went the point of this thread right over your head.

Maybe you can tell me how much safer you'll feel after we've bombed Iraq and you're glow-in-the-dark.

[takao]

i'm pretty skeptical of the suitcase bomb claim...though i don't doubt their desire to purchase one. they make it sound as easy as buying a hot watch....which it's obviously not. just take 30 million to asia and ask the local cabbie where the bomb district is...ntm, how would you know you're buying a real functional nuclear weapon? i'm certainly no expert but i'd say the odds are miniscule that they've got a nuke...at least right now.


i case you don't know:
russian is missing (a lot) nuclear weapons including ...big surprise:
SUITCASE BOMBS ;) and if you know _how_ many are missing you would me a lot more concerned: up to 100 Suitcase bombs

http://www.acronym.org.uk/dd/dd19/19nukes.htm
but that is 'old news' from 1997

a few years ago some austrian reporters (im co-operationwith police) tried to get their hands on nuclear plutonium,uran etc. in east-europe,russia, in 10 cases they got some minor radiating parts, in 2-3 cases there were plutionium,uran which could have been used for weapons (not enough kilos but still) and in one case they got surprised by a full functional atomic warhead stolen from a russian tactical missile.... in all cases they police was called afterwards

and all that in a few months...
if some reporters can get nuclear weapons...i doubt it is difficult for somebody in the middle east

[wwworry]

We could have done a really good job in Afghanistan and maybe put off Iraq for a while. Instead they ignore Afghanistan (even forgetting to fund it last year) the taliban regains strength and the world sees the US as just interested in blood feuds and oil. Terrorism grows.

This administration is stupid.

[2jaded2care]

So, it is the Bush administration's fault for "doing nothing" before 9/11, and it is the Bush administration's fault for doing something after 9/11.

We were attacked before without any overt provocating act. Now some are complaining that we might be attacked again -- seems it doesn't matter what we do, unless it's acquiesce to terrorism. That is unacceptable.

Such a strike on the U.S. would demand a like response, or else we invite another. Hopefully any evil-doers realize this, and care.

[skunk]

So, it is the Bush administration's fault for "doing nothing" before 9/11, and it is the Bush administration's fault for doing something after 9/11.

We were attacked before without any overt provocating act. Now some are complaining that we might be attacked again -- seems it doesn't matter what we do, unless it's acquiesce to terrorism. That is unacceptable.

Such a strike on the U.S. would demand a like response, or else we invite another. Hopefully any evil-doers realize this, and care.

Repeat after me: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SODDING CONNECTION BETWEEN IRAQ AND AL QAEDA.

Sheesh. :mad:

[zimv20]

Bush Targets Russia Nuclear Programs for Cuts (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A20489-2001Mar17&notFound=true) (march 2001)

Bush threatens to slash spending on nuclear safety aid to Russia (http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,486928,00.html) (may 2001)

Carnegie analysis of same (http://www.ceip.org/files/nonprolif/templates/article.asp?NewsID=403)

[skunk]

Amazing. Just amazing. I'm speechless. :eek:
Your President is without precedent.

[2jaded2care]

Afghanistan seems to have fallen off everyone's map...

I too am troubled about Iraq. Guess I should've specified.

[skunk]

Afghanistan seems to have fallen off everyone's map...

I too am troubled about Iraq. Guess I should've specified.

I've just looked it up in my atlas: it's still there. Bush probably lost the page. Shortly after he lost the plot. Attention-span of a fruit-fly.

[Dale Sorel]

Who was it on here that said national security was the most important issue to them because nothing else matters if you're dead?

Uh...


And there went the point of this thread right over your head.

In case you missed it, genius, I was only answering his question :mad:


Maybe you can tell me how much safer you'll feel after we've bombed Iraq and you're glow-in-the-dark.

Yea, Iraq really scares me after being threatened by the Soviet Union for over 40 years :rolleyes:

[coopdog]

I really love how people think hands down there is no threat, there is no connection, there are no bombs, ect. Well I guess your right after seeing all the classified information and all. /Sarcasm.

I also doubt a they have a nuclear bomb. But at the same time you need to keep and open mind. Personaly if I had a nuclear bomb under my bed or knew someone who did I would not be able to keep my mouth shut. It's a pretty hard thing to keep under wraps

[pseudobrit]

Uh...




In case you missed it, genius, I was only answering his question :mad:




Yea, Iraq really scares me after being threatened by the Soviet Union for over 40 years :rolleyes:

And there went that point again, right overhead. I guess that's why you roll your eyes so much.

[pseudobrit]

So, it is the Bush administration's fault for "doing nothing" before 9/11, and it is the Bush administration's fault for doing something after 9/11.

It's the administration's fault for doing nothing before 9/11 and for doing something totally unrelated after 9/11.

FDR didn't announce he'd invade Brasil after Pearl Harbor.

[Dale Sorel]

And there went that point again, right overhead. I guess that's why you roll your eyes so much.

Man, you are just to cleaver :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I guess the rules are that you adhere to the title of the thread rather than answer a direct question :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I have an idea, why don't you take a break from your keyboard :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[richland]

Al Qaeda claims to have suitcase nukes

Im so tired of these religious bastards. I hope each one of these morons and thier offspring kill themselves by accidently setting one of those bombs off.

Damn unevolved desert monkeys.

[Rower_CPU]

...
Damn unevolved desert monkeys.

Note to MR members, this is what you do if you want to get immediately banned from the site.

This thread is now closed, since it's devolved into personal attacks and racist remarks.