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Matt1974
Feb 11, 2009, 09:26 AM
Has anybody thought that there might be hidden hardware features on the new Unibody Macbooks? perhaps Touchscreen? :confused: Because, for some reason they opted for a glass glossy screen... right? Even on the new Cinema Display, which is clearly focused to designers, who definitively don't like glares on their screens...

Wouldn't it be really cool if once Snow Leopard is released, Unibody users find out that they could now have a touchscreen computer by just upgrading to OS X 10.6 ?

I wonder if someone has already dissected a new unibody screen pannel to see if there's something iPhone-alike... I don't know, I'm not a tech guy, but it would definitively be awesome. :D

Who knows, it might not be a bad idea for :apple: to do such a thing in the future. :rolleyes:

Ok, I might be dreaming...



paduck
Feb 11, 2009, 09:47 AM
I'll go out on a limb and say that Apple isn't going to be investing in an expensive touch screen only to activate it 12 months down the road with a major OS upgrade. Better they would release a NEW MacBook Pro with that feature and sell more MacBooks at that point in time.

So, no, I don't think that that unibody MacBook has a touchscreen.

yellow
Feb 11, 2009, 09:57 AM
That would be an interesting update, however unlikely. Apple is not one to NOT crow about their "features", so the likelihood of that already being in a Mac is less than zero.
Not when they could release that and make everyone re-purchase a new Mac that has a touch screen.
And we could get a billion threads about how much Apple has ripped off the people that don't have it.

svndmvn
Feb 11, 2009, 10:06 AM
it is more likely for a cinema display to hide a processor than a touch panel
or a Macbook to become quad core once upgraded to 10.6
let's be serious, come on...

Matt1974
Feb 11, 2009, 10:07 AM
That would be an interesting update, however unlikely. Apple is not one to NOT crow about their "features", so the likelihood of that already being in a Mac is less than zero.
Not when they could release that and make everyone re-purchase a new Mac that has a touch screen.
And we could get a billion threads about how much Apple has ripped off the people that don't have it.

Yep, I agree it's quite unlikely. But it's even more unlikely that they'd come up with a major hardware upgrade 12 months after releasing the current aluminum ones.

I guess I'm just trying to plant a seed here. Who knows, an Apple employee might read this thread and consider this idea for the future, perhaps for smaller and less expensive unleashes... but anyway... I just wanted to throw a little bomb here.
:cool:

claimed4all
Feb 11, 2009, 11:15 AM
This is an idea that maybe looked good on paper.....

VSMacOne
Feb 11, 2009, 01:13 PM
Just think about how uncomfortable it would be to use a TOUCH screen on the Macbook... Lol...
I'm REALLY trying to be nice.. but why the heck wouldn't they advertise a TOUCH screen on a laptop? I mean, it would be a pretty big deal for Apple!!!
AND don't you think the price would be higher?
AND the glass would look HORRIBLE from the fingerprints!
AND why the heck would you put a touchscreen on a laptop that isn't a tablet? Who would reach across the keyboard to touch the screen instead of using that HUGE trackpad??!!?

AND to answer your question ... YES, somebody has taken the MacBook apart and they didn't find any HIDDEN treasures :rolleyes:

Bwilky
Feb 11, 2009, 01:58 PM
If I say yes, there is a touchscreen. Are you going to jump up and down?
Yes, there is a touchscreen built in. You can download an app to enable it. It's called srslywtf.dmg. It's on the apple site.

Peace
Feb 11, 2009, 02:01 PM
Wow and I thought all the kewl multi-touch stuff I was using in 10.6 on my iMac was real!! Now I know it's the drugs. Thanks!!:p

But seriously the newer Macs don't have the hardware for multi-touch.

kastenbrust
Feb 11, 2009, 02:04 PM
The glossy screen looks disgusting from the fingerprints from just opening it, making it touch screen? haha funny guy.

Kardashian
Feb 11, 2009, 02:57 PM
Has anybody thought that there might be hidden hardware features on the new Unibody Macbooks? perhaps Touchscreen?

I don't know, I'm not a tech guy...

Really?

I for one would never have guessed.

And to answer your question: No.

10.6 might give early-2008 MBP users the Multi-touch facilities which can be added via a hack - but it's not going to 'add' hardware.

silverblack
Feb 11, 2009, 07:59 PM
The only software upgrade that can possibly lead to a hardware changes, in my opinion, is the ability to support 8 GB of RAM in the future (6 GB now).

kastenbrust
Feb 11, 2009, 08:00 PM
The only software upgrade that can possibly lead to a hardware changes, in my opinion, is the ability to support 8 GB of RAM in the future (6 GB now).

Correct

If you know enough about programming you can already hack the bios to fix this.

arthursiew
Feb 11, 2009, 08:06 PM
I doubt it. People would be hacking it by now if there were hidden hardware features.

Matt1974
Feb 12, 2009, 12:16 AM
Ok, I got the message. Of course there's no such a thing, but like I said before:

1) Just trying to seed the idea of unleashing smaller hardware features by software updates/upgrades. And I insist, this is not bad, and no, you don't need to advertise it from day one, this could save a lot of headaches when trying to supply retail stores with millions of devices for freaks that will camp 3 days before release day just so they can masturbate with their new toy. If you already have a great device that you know will seel itself, making it even better after a few months only adds value to the whole product, and still, everybody wins. Be honest: wouldn't you love to rediscover new features on your Mac????

2) Just trying to throw a little bomb here, which I clearly did, because it really fired up some dormant neurons on some of you guys.

It's cool, if you name a thread with the right key words, you can really make some guys flash red... :D

Yep, iPhone already looks nasty with fingerprints, imagine a whole screen...

It's Ok, you can rest guys, remember to take your pills. Let's not over react. This is a forum, Ok?


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sporadicMotion
Feb 12, 2009, 12:45 AM
1) Just trying to seed the idea of unleashing smaller hardware features by software updates/upgrades. And I insist, this is not bad, and no, you don't need to advertise it from day one, this could save a lot of headaches when trying to supply retail stores with millions of devices for freaks that will camp 3 days before release day just so they can masturbate with their new toy. If you already have a great device that you know will seel itself, making it even better after a few months only adds value to the whole product, and still, everybody wins. Be honest: wouldn't you love to rediscover new features on your Mac????


Companies just don't do this. The sale is made from the features available at the time of sale and they want you to upgrade to a new one as soon as possible (hence planed obsolescence). It defies logic to have hidden features for later. Those new discoveries are up to you... they're called software.

crazyxzer0
Feb 12, 2009, 03:00 AM
The old MBP has multitouch touchpad but it didnt have the 4 finger gestures. By a manipulation of some code in the OSX software, they were able to make the trackpad of the old MBP enable 4 finger gestures. Not a great step as far as display being a touchscreen, but it does show the multitouch trackpad setup was altered by software (course not official apple)

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=6765974#post6765974


But I HIGHLY doubt the screen will be touchscreen :)

Timmbo
Feb 12, 2009, 03:14 AM
Why do you keep using the word unleash?

szark
Feb 12, 2009, 12:59 PM
1) Just trying to seed the idea of unleashing smaller hardware features by software updates/upgrades.

Companies just don't do this. The sale is made from the features available at the time of sale and they want you to upgrade to a new one as soon as possible (hence planed obsolescence). It defies logic to have hidden features for later. Those new discoveries are up to you... they're called software.

And, as Apple has repeatedly stated in the past, the Sarbanes-Oxley laws in the U.S. would require them to charge money for that software upgrade. So you still wouldn't suddenly get it for free.

sporadicMotion
Feb 12, 2009, 01:43 PM
And, as Apple has repeatedly stated in the past, the Sarbanes-Oxley laws in the U.S. would require them to charge money for that software upgrade. So you still wouldn't suddenly get it for free.

Point and case. My software comment is directed towards other (both Apple and third party) software utilities that make your computer usage more productive... they can be free... sometimes... but most of the good ones cost a nominal fee.

iMacmatician
Feb 12, 2009, 02:35 PM
Companies just don't do this. The sale is made from the features available at the time of sale and they want you to upgrade to a new one as soon as possible (hence planed obsolescence). It defies logic to have hidden features for later. Those new discoveries are up to you... they're called software.Apple's 802.11n Enabler was a notable exception.

sporadicMotion
Feb 12, 2009, 05:04 PM
Apple's 802.11n Enabler was a notable exception.

I forgot about one... but even that was a paid "upgrade"

r.j.s
Feb 12, 2009, 06:48 PM
And, as Apple has repeatedly stated in the past, the Sarbanes-Oxley laws in the U.S. would require them to charge money for that software upgrade. So you still wouldn't suddenly get it for free.

Which is why they charged $1.99 for the 802.11n firmware for the Late 2006 MB and MBPs.

So, they have done it before, but it wasn't anything revolutionary.

sporadicMotion
Feb 12, 2009, 07:03 PM
Mass OS X update for all Mac users... adds 1 ghz to existing CPU's for $1.99.

MattyK
Feb 12, 2009, 10:55 PM
Where did all the posts go?

paolo-
Feb 12, 2009, 10:56 PM
There have been a few, software enabling the trackpad of older macs to use full multi-touch. The airport upgrade noted before. It's probably possible to make software to enable any remote to pair with a mac. If anything hidden features would probably new things found to be possible with firmware upgrades or apps that take advantage of things apple didn't do themselves. Any self respecting company wouldn't hide a core feature from the public only to reveal it's existence latter. That would be like selling an iPod by saying it can read note and then unlock a secret feature a few months latter that it CAN PLAY MUSIC OMFG :p .

Things like pressure sensitive trackpad gestures could be possible, a feature that apple has yet to tap into. Or using the leds as disco lights :rolleyes:

weezercleaver
Feb 13, 2009, 01:10 PM
Where did all the posts go?

Yeah I was wondering the same thing, why my posts got deleted? There was nothing offensive about them, I was trying to be nice and say that people ganged up on this guy and it got taken down. Other posts were allowed to stay as irrelevant as "why do you keep saying unleashed?" Makes no sense IMO

thebeans
Feb 13, 2009, 01:59 PM
Has anybody thought that there might be hidden hardware features on the new Unibody Macbooks? perhaps Touchscreen? :confused: Because, for some reason they opted for a glass glossy screen... right? Even on the new Cinema Display, which is clearly focused to designers, who definitively don't like glares on their screens...

Wouldn't it be really cool if once Snow Leopard is released, Unibody users find out that they could now have a touchscreen computer by just upgrading to OS X 10.6 ?

I wonder if someone has already dissected a new unibody screen pannel to see if there's something iPhone-alike... I don't know, I'm not a tech guy, but it would definitively be awesome. :D

Who knows, it might not be a bad idea for :apple: to do such a thing in the future. :rolleyes:

Ok, I might be dreaming...


You're Nuckin Futs. ;) and I mean that in the nicest possible way. They are not going to put a touch screen on it and just not tell anyone.

Benguitar
Feb 13, 2009, 02:04 PM
I am almost 100% sure that you cannot turn a glass screen into a touch screen with just a software update. Great idea though! :)

NewMacbookPlz
Feb 13, 2009, 04:42 PM
Where did all the posts go?

Moderation I suppose

Matt1974
Mar 17, 2009, 05:15 PM
Companies just don't do this. The sale is made from the features available at the time of sale and they want you to upgrade to a new one as soon as possible (hence planed obsolescence). It defies logic to have hidden features for later. Those new discoveries are up to you... they're called software.


"... Apple also revealed that Bluetooth support can be activated in the 2nd generation iPod Touches."

So...? Are you sure about that? :rolleyes:

old-wiz
Mar 17, 2009, 06:04 PM
Bluetooth was known to be there, but only for the Nike+ stuff.

michael.lauden
Mar 17, 2009, 06:13 PM
yeah dude... maybe my mac is optimus prime too

Knolly
Mar 17, 2009, 06:15 PM
"... Apple also revealed that Bluetooth support can be activated in the 2nd generation iPod Touches."

So...? Are you sure about that? :rolleyes:

However there is a bit of a problem with this comparison.

People took apart the 2G iPod Touch the day it came out and discovered it had bluetooth.

People took apart the aluminum Macbook the day it came out and it PHYSICALLY DOES NOT have a touch screen or any other hardware that has been unannounced.

Bengt77
Mar 17, 2009, 06:20 PM
If I say yes, there is a touchscreen. Are you going to jump up and down?
Yes, there is a touchscreen built in. You can download an app to enable it. It's called srslywtf.dmg. It's on the apple site.
I see what you did there. ;)

NewMacbookPlz
Mar 17, 2009, 08:01 PM
"... Apple also revealed that Bluetooth support can be activated in the 2nd generation iPod Touches."

So...? Are you sure about that? :rolleyes:

Did you just bump your own thread in an attempt to gain credibility that they'd UNLEASH some new feature with 10.6? :p

The BT chip was known to exist in the iPod Touch ever since it was torn open by ifixit and other sites.

yellow
Mar 18, 2009, 07:53 AM
So...? Are you sure about that? :rolleyes:

Bluetooth isn't a stretch. A touchscreen on already existing UMBs? That's a serious stretch.

derekjd
Mar 18, 2009, 08:26 AM
yeah dude... maybe my mac is optimus prime too

Mine is Mega Tron, now we got some issues....