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MacBytes
Mar 22, 2004, 04:26 AM
Category: News and Press Releases
Link: Microsoft ‘sets record straight’ on open source (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20040322052615)
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dukemeiser
Mar 22, 2004, 07:30 AM
Yeah, now there official stance on open source is: they still hate it.

Savage Henry
Mar 22, 2004, 08:32 AM
Category: News and Press Releases
Link: Microsoft ‘sets record straight’ on open source (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20040322052615)
Posted on MacBytes.com (http://www.macbytes.com)

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The link isn't working for me :confused:


Nevertheless ... Down with Microsoft !!

Grrr....

Rasmuskl
Mar 22, 2004, 09:10 AM
if MSFT says that Windows is cheaper and better than Linux you have to believe them. Because MSFT are and honest reliable company.

unoriginl
Mar 22, 2004, 09:15 AM
The link isn't working for me :confused:


Nevertheless ... Down with Microsoft !!

Grrr....
It's not working for me either...
But I think this might be the same article... or at least on the same topic.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/main_news.cfm?NewsID=8234

jV

unoriginl
Mar 22, 2004, 09:25 AM
For each of Red Hat, Mandrake and Debian, their websites reported more than double the number of security advisories of Windows 2000 and XP, Moore said, and while the Linux security advisory rate was rising, that for Windows was falling.


For Moore, that's evidence of the fallacy that open source code is inherently more secure than the commercial variety because it is seen by more eyes.

For me, that's evidence that open source code gets more security attention. More bug fixes don't mean more bugs... they mean more FIXED bugs.

jV

billyboy
Mar 22, 2004, 11:39 AM
MS say that open source is a threat to the software industry. Bring it on. Apple dont do too bad writing their own and adapting and integrating open source software into their OS and practically giving it away in order to secure their main source of income - the sales of Mac computer. MS cant go that route so obviously they will fight any threat to their predominantly software-only business tooth and nail. Years ago, the MS licencing model killed Apple's total integration model. I think the tables are in motion to turn on the software giant's empire as software in effect loses its value as a standalone product.

Nermal
Mar 22, 2004, 06:36 PM
For those of you who can't see the article:

Microsoft wheeled out two top regional executives in Auckland last week to help right some “misperceptions” about the company’s attitude to open source software.

Peter Moore, the company’s Asia-Pacific and greater China public sector general manager, and Chris Sharp, platform strategy director, joined Microsoft New Zealand’s chief spokesman on open source issues, Brett Roberts, at a media briefing. Auckland was the latest stop on a Pacific-wide tour by the two Singapore-based executives.

Roberts prefaced a presentation by Moore by saying he was convinced there was plenty of confusion in the market about Microsoft’s view of open source.

“It’s a conversation that quickly lurches towards the religious,” Roberts said.

Moore, a nine-year veteran of Microsoft Australia, hoped he would come across in an “unemotional, balanced way”. Despite being a former CTO, he admitted to having no Linux experience.

But he was aware, he said, of the “crisis of complexity and value” that IT management was confronting, which meant operational costs were consuming IT budgets, reducing the capacity of organisations to make new IT investments.

And in what might be a first for a senior Microsoft executive, he acknowledged that Linux is not going to be a passing fad.

“Linux is going to be part of the future. It’s going to be like Unix was.”

Moore produced figures collected from websites of popular Linux distributions that he said showed the comparative security performance of open source operating systems and Windows. For each of Red Hat, Mandrake and Debian, their websites reported more than double the number of security advisories of Windows 2000 and XP, Moore said, and while the Linux security advisory rate was rising, that for Windows was falling.

For Moore, that’s evidence of the fallacy that open source code is inherently more secure than the commercial variety because it is seen by more eyes.

“Security is an industry issue,” Moore said, “and we’re getting better.”

When it comes to the comparative price-performance of open source and Windows systems, Moore quoted IDC figures which apparently debunk the notion that Linux wins. For file and print serving, and network and security services, Windows has a five-year total cost of ownership advantage of up to 30% over Linux, according to Moore. In simple web application delivery, however, Linux has a 5% advantage.

Naimfan
Mar 22, 2004, 07:49 PM
The IDC figures quoted by Microsoft serve to remind us of how current Mark Twain remains: There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.... I have talked to NO IT managers who believe Windows less expensive, on a TCO basis, than Linux.

Open source software is one of the two things that should keep Microsoft executives up at night--it shakes at the very core of their business and business model. The second is IBM, even if Microsoft won the first round.

Best,

Bob

MrMacMan
Mar 23, 2004, 09:29 PM
Yeah uhh, they said nothing in this article...


If you want an article about Open Source vs. closed...

Go to a place called 'e-week' I get their mag, it was like cover story...


This article is a POS.