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Feb 12, 2009, 11:33 AM
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Fafafoooey
Feb 12, 2009, 12:02 PM
no

jayducharme
Feb 12, 2009, 12:07 PM
Ballmer will also announce a new service called My Phone that lets mobile-phone users automatically sync photos, contacts, videos, and other files to a personalized Web site and then gain access to that content from a PC or any Web-connected device.

Wow. MS is really cutting-edge. I'm blown away by how far their technology has come. No one else has this ability. And what a great name for the service! It should do well at the Social. :rolleyes:

He says to expect a major advertising push. "When people go shopping in the future, we want them to ask specifically for a Windows phone."

The ad will be a picture of Ballmer eating a phone shaped like a churro. Delicious.

"Most people who see a cool Windows Mobile phone don't even know it's a Windows Mobile phone. We have to communicate very clearly the value in that."

CUSTOMER IN BEST BUY: "I'm looking for a phone that gives me a confusing assortment of drop-down menus and re-sets itself at New Years."

INNOVATION IS KEY

Yeah, that's actually one of the headers. I wonder if MS will take the feeble Zune and turn it into a phone. That would be real competition. But if the company just continues to make an OS for a random assortment of phones, they'll be left in the dust.

gilesrulz
Feb 12, 2009, 01:08 PM
INNOVATION IS KEY


Microsoft has never innovated anything. Ever.

EmperorDarius
Feb 12, 2009, 01:13 PM
Ok, so what shall Microsoft copy next?

IJ Reilly
Feb 12, 2009, 01:29 PM
In the PC business, Microsoft's approach of signing up as many hardware makers as possible led to market dominance...

Since that's not really true, one wonders what Microsoft really needs to do to make this approach work for them.

macFanDave
Feb 12, 2009, 02:06 PM
They are still behind on computer OS's. How can they catch up on a whole new platform?

elppa
Feb 12, 2009, 02:59 PM
Microsoft has never innovated anything. Ever.

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bobsentell
Feb 12, 2009, 04:31 PM
They are still behind on computer OS's. How can they catch up on a whole new platform?

Microsoft owns ~90% of the OS Market Share. So who's catching up with who?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS_market_share

And since Microsoft has had a mobile version since Pocket PC 2000, I would hardly call releasing a new mobile version "Catching Up". Sounds to me the fanboys are concerned Microsoft's idea will work. Windows mobile is only 4% behind Apple in terms of mobile market share, and they don't market it as much as Apple.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_operating_system

IJ Reilly
Feb 12, 2009, 04:38 PM
And since Microsoft has had a mobile version since Pocket PC 2000, I would hardly call releasing a new mobile version "Catching Up". Sounds to me the fanboys are concerned Microsoft's idea will work. Windows mobile is only 4% behind Apple in terms of mobile market share, and they don't market it as much as Apple.

Microsoft's share of this market is declining while Apple is gaining. Microsoft's "idea" is to try leverage desktop Windows into mobile devices. Since this has essentially been their strategy since WindowsCE, and it hasn't worked yet, I don't see how repackaging this same approach is going to fare any better. If you'd been following this you'd know that Ballmer was talking recently about how Microsoft needed to recreate the end-to-end product experience that Apple does so successfully. The conclusion one has to draw from this latest chapter is they've already given up on that idea and have fallen back on their default strategy.

LeviG
Feb 12, 2009, 04:55 PM
In my view primarily
ms mobile os = business focus
apple os-x mobile = consumer focus hence it's 'fashionable' item status - it's cool to have an iphone

MS Mobile has a lot more features, isn't as restrictive and also supports more than one device so it is in a way a more developed platform. In my opinion all it needs is a decent interface (theres a fair few decent phones already) and it will claw back some of its lost users.

macFanDave
Feb 12, 2009, 05:22 PM
Microsoft owns ~90% of the OS Market Share. So who's catching up with who?

It should be "with whom," but what can you expect from a Windows user?

Windows is way behind in ease-of-use, security, quality, innovation, consistency, etc.

Should "The Dark Knight" get the Oscar for Best Picture because it took in more than a half a billion dollars at the box office? That's Microsoft logic (and the logic of the PeeCee apologists). Microsoft's going to be out of the OS business in five years.

dolphin842
Feb 12, 2009, 05:29 PM
I'll be the first to give Microsoft lots of flak, but they're not all bad. Hey, if they can make a decent portable OS and provide tight integration a la iPod+iTunes, then they'll earn their part of the market. Their Live online service seems to be generally working, which is more than we can say for certain other players in that market.

coolfactor
Feb 12, 2009, 11:51 PM
Microsoft owns ~90% of the OS Market Share. So who's catching up with who?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS_market_share

And since Microsoft has had a mobile version since Pocket PC 2000, I would hardly call releasing a new mobile version "Catching Up". Sounds to me the fanboys are concerned Microsoft's idea will work. Windows mobile is only 4% behind Apple in terms of mobile market share, and they don't market it as much as Apple.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_operating_system

Market share has nothing to do with the fact that they need to catch up. In fact, their sheer size and installed base makes it slower for them to keep up to pace in terms of life-changing technologies. You need look no further than iPhone. Apple has been in the phone industry for 2 years and look how dramatically it has changed. Microsoft is not capable of initiating that type of quick change.

tbishh
Feb 13, 2009, 09:05 AM
CUSTOMER IN BEST BUY: "I'm looking for a phone that gives me a confusing assortment of drop-down menus and re-sets itself at New Years."







haha, sad, but true :)

ritzuk
Feb 13, 2009, 09:21 AM
Wow. MS is really cutting-edge. I'm blown away by how far their technology has come. No one else has this ability. And what a great name for the service! It should do well at the Social. :rolleyes:



The ad will be a picture of Ballmer eating a phone shaped like a churro. Delicious.



CUSTOMER IN BEST BUY: "I'm looking for a phone that gives me a confusing assortment of drop-down menus and re-sets itself at New Years."



Yeah, that's actually one of the headers. I wonder if MS will take the feeble Zune and turn it into a phone. That would be real competition. But if the company just continues to make an OS for a random assortment of phones, they'll be left in the dust.

rofl

IJ Reilly
Feb 13, 2009, 10:15 AM
Market share has nothing to do with the fact that they need to catch up. In fact, their sheer size and installed base makes it slower for them to keep up to pace in terms of life-changing technologies. You need look no further than iPhone. Apple has been in the phone industry for 2 years and look how dramatically it has changed. Microsoft is not capable of initiating that type of quick change.

Right, and it always surprises me how easily and often Microsoft falls back into old habits. What they know institutionally is that Windows is their big meal ticket. When all else fails, they attempt to leverage Windows. Again.

Saladinos
Feb 14, 2009, 07:59 PM
Microsoft make money, Apple make products.

And Apple have been getting increasingly good at making money, too. Microsoft hasn't got any better at making products.