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Feb 12, 2009, 11:42 AM
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Link: Anti-piracy service for iPhone developers (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20090212124204)
Description:: Kali Anti-Piracy is a service for the iPhone developers that protects their applications from being pirated.

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bbplayer5
Feb 12, 2009, 12:14 PM
I love this idea. Its the only reason Apple hates jailbreaking. Unlocking is one thing, but pirating software is another.

Unlocking isnt illegal, stealing software IS.

However, Apple needs to implement a trial period for apps so people dont have to purchase something without trying it first.

flipperanubi
Feb 12, 2009, 12:56 PM
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blackcrayon
Feb 12, 2009, 12:59 PM
I love this idea. Its the only reason Apple hates jailbreaking. Unlocking is one thing, but pirating software is another.

Unlocking isnt illegal, stealing software IS.

However, Apple needs to implement a trial period for apps so people dont have to purchase something without trying it first.

It's "the only reason Apple hates jailbreaking"? Apple "hated" jailbreaking a year before there were even apps to pirate...

AlmostThere
Feb 12, 2009, 02:56 PM
Ahh, proof that stealing software starts before DRM is added.

That said, lack of a trial version has held me back from trying some apps.

That's an odd conclusion because DRM has been in the app store and iPhone from day one.

The same guys distributing this app are also enabling users to put apps on the iPhone though their Pusher.app / Installer.app, which in 'black-and-white world' is stealing from Apple. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. This is nothing more than an attempt to inflate the fears of developers and then exploit them for commercial gain.

dolphin842
Feb 12, 2009, 05:17 PM
This also shows that piracy will continue even with the presence of DRM. So the solution is yet another layer of DRM? This is reminiscent of the arms race between the iTunes Music Store and the hymn project.

Winni
Feb 12, 2009, 07:37 PM
So far, the only involved party making real money through the AppStore is... Apple. While the developers are playing Black Jack in the AppStore hoping to make a buck (but usually lose), Apple owns the Casino. And the house always wins.

When you own the roads, you're prone to hating the idea of off-road trucks and land rovers. So Apple naturally has an interest in "fighting piracy", because that effectively means defending its own distribution monopoly.

About trial periods for apps: This is not Apple's job, but the job of the respective developers. For example, the game "Archibald's Adventures" is available in two different versions on the AppStore: A "light" trial version for free and the regular full version for a few dollars. So you can actually 'try before you buy'.

bstreiff
Feb 12, 2009, 09:39 PM
About trial periods for apps: This is not Apple's job, but the job of the respective developers. For example, the game "Archibald's Adventures" is available in two different versions on the AppStore: A "light" trial version for free and the regular full version for a few dollars. So you can actually 'try before you buy'.

Yeah. I think XBox Live Arcade has got a good model going. You can download a free trial of any game... usually they're only a level or two, and you can't get achievements, but it usually provides a good 'sample.' I've bought plenty of games I probably wouldn't have otherwise based on the trial.

It'd be nicer if Apple provided for better integration in the App Store between trial and full versions; on XBL it's easy to 'convert' a trial version into the full version, but with the App Store, they're two distinct apps.

AlmostThere
Feb 13, 2009, 02:32 PM
Its the only reason Apple hates jailbreaking. Unlocking is one thing, but pirating software is another.

Unlocking isnt illegal, stealing software IS.

Apple would disagree with you one this one:
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/02/apple-says-jailbreaking-illegal

(assuming you are using unlocking and jailbreaking interchangeably here).

nagromme
Feb 16, 2009, 12:08 PM
When you own the roads, you're prone to hating the idea of off-road trucks and land rovers. So Apple naturally has an interest in "fighting piracy", because that effectively means defending its own distribution monopoly.

So as an iPhone developer (hoping to become one, anyway) allowing piracy will help me more than Apple does?

If Apple didn't have DRM on apps, I'm sure a LOT of those apps would never have been made at all. DRM (and iTunes distribution in general) really does help developers, not just Apple. And that in turn does help the platform and the users.

So does jailbreaking--for the hobbyist/customizer, it's a neat option that we have, and one I don't see Apple "hating." I see them not spending their own time and money to support it, of course. That's different.