Canada is opening up its UFO files 1947 to 80s

[Dont Hurt Me]

Well the truth is slowly coming out, Canada has joined others to release ( older) UFO files from 1947 to the early 80s. There a couple of cases that are loaded with evidence,facts and many witness both military and police. Shag harbor case for one.http://www.ufocasebook.com/2009/canadareleases.html

Its time the U.S. govt stops the cover up. We are grown up enough to accept that there may be life in the cosmos older and smarter then us. Ronald Reagan was hinting this in a famous speech.

[zap2]

Ronald Reagan was hinting this in a famous speech.

wanna explain that one a little more....

[iJohnHenry]

UFO's would be well advised to stay the **** away.

No good can come from this!!

[MacNut]

We can't even get people in the middle east to coexist, how will we deal with an alien invasion.

[Iscariot]

So wait, some guys — most of which have a high school education — saw some stuff they can't explain, and that's evidence that there are alien visitors among the skies? What about all those people who see Jesus every year? The Elvis sightings during the 1990s? Hitler sightings?

[iJohnHenry]

HEY, look at this piece of toast!!!

[MacNut]

HEY, look at this piece of toast!!!You didn't see anything.:p

[AP_piano295]

Don't Hurt you always strike me as a reasonable fella but your ideas on extra terrestrials live in a tinfoil hat.

[chrmjenkins]

It's a popular theory, and one I'm inclined to agree with, that the United States purposely uses conspiracy UFO theories to cover up actual technology development that takes place within our borders.

[floyde]

So wait, some guys — most of which have a high school education — saw some stuff they can't explain, and that's evidence that there are alien visitors among the skies? What about all those people who see Jesus every year? The Elvis sightings during the 1990s? Hitler sightings?

Well I see Jesus everyday on a stain on my bedroom wall, if that counts for anything :p. The green pic has a photoshop filter that reveals a 3D halo :p:

(Anyway, I can't help but expect that this UFO evidence will be as convincing as mine)

[MacNut]

So wait, some guys — most of which have a high school education — saw some stuff they can't explain, and that's evidence that there are alien visitors among the skies? What about all those people who see Jesus every year? The Elvis sightings during the 1990s? Hitler sightings?Don't forget Lockness, Bigfoot, the Boogieman, the Sandman, Tupac, Cher.:D

[EricNau]

Well the truth is slowly coming out. . .
Truth surrounding what, exactly? That we all see things we can't identify? Or that aliens from outside worlds are paying us visits? I'd suggest that we have plenty of proof of the former, and no proof public or classified proving the latter.

As Carl Sagan once said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." For claims of this magnitude unidentified lights in the sky are worthless as evidence.

If anything, this is proof that there isn't any evidence to support such claims. After all, if Canada had managed to keep such visitations secret (a feat which I would suggest is impossible), do you really think they would disclose it now? Nope; don't expect anything more than a few more unsubstantiated fables about lights in the sky.

[MacNut]

Unless they cart out an alien and have it do a press conference we will still be asking questions.

Have aliens crashed into the Nevada desert, who knows. We don't know anything, and a few people that know the truth aren't going to say. Do aliens exist, maybe, but until they actually stop in for a chat it is all just hearsay.

[CorvusCamenarum]

We can't even get people in the middle east to coexist, how will we deal with an alien invasion.

To paraphrase Eddie Griffin: "They're down there fighting over black and white. We're purple - what the ******* do you think they're gonna do to us?"

[.Andy]

Why on earth would aliens go to canada?

[pknz]

Probably just a few restless El Chupacabras...

[Chundles]

Don't forget Lockness, Bigfoot, the Boogieman, the Sandman, Tupac, Cher.:D

Erm, you mean Loch Ness don't you?

[Dont Hurt Me]

Canada didnt keep this stuff closed and classified because it was fairy tale's.
Reagan had a speech where he talked about if we discovered another race how it would bring all of the countries closer on Earth.

Not one person has commented on the Shag harbor case, oh well.

[Counterfit]

Unless they cart out an alien and have it do a press conference we will still be asking questions.

"Have you ever used performance enhancing drugs?"
"How could you inject yourself 36 times with something and not know what it is?"

[Iscariot]

Not one person has commented on the Shag harbor case, oh well.

"The final report said not a trace of the crash object had been found."

[bbotte]

Those Frakin' Toasters and Skin Jobs better stay away. I hate Cylons.

[PlaceofDis]

Those Frakin' Toasters and Skin Jobs better stay away. I hate Cylons.

considering the way the series is going... that might end up being a lot of self loathing. :p

and just because this was classified doesn't mean that it shows that the govt was hiding something. tin foil hat indeed.

[Dont Hurt Me]

"The final report said not a trace of the crash object had been found."
Because it flew away:rolleyes:

[chrmjenkins]

Because it flew away:rolleyes:

Then there's no evidence, only eye witness accounts! Even the eye witnesses are shooting in the dark as to what they saw.

[MacNut]

"Have you ever used performance enhancing drugs?"
"How could you inject yourself 36 times with something and not know what it is?"It was an unidentified flying substance.:p It came from the alien cousin so we didn't ask questions.

[Jaffa Cake]

A batch of 'UFO files' gets released every few years with great fanfare in the press. Over here, the MoD last released a number of their documents a few months back and it got a bit of coverage in the papers and the internet.

The thing is, they never give us any juicy new evidence or anything, which is little surprise really. If a government actually had some pretty firmish evidence of extraterrestrial life and had managed to keep a lid on it for a couple of decades then they're hardly just going to release the documents to the public, are they?

I suspect that these files will contain little more than what we normally get with these releases – a couple of hand drawn sketches of UFOs made by witnesses, an account from a pilot saying a light followed his plane for a bit, and some oddball saying he's been talking to a Venusian. I'll bet anyone a shiny Pound we won't be seeing government-authenticated footage of alien autopsies or schematics of captured spacecraft, or any other 'hard evidence'.

Any files relating to the famous Shag Harbor case will probably just state some folk reported seeing something odd, we had a look for it and didn't find anything so we left it at that. If there is anything more to this incident, the information won't be surrendered so easily after all this time.

[.Andy]

Because it flew away:rolleyes:
Surely they would have got out to collect insurance details first?

[Lesser Evets]

They don't have anything substantial to reveal anyway. All that crap is just tulpa forming around the mass subconscious of the human race.

[EricNau]

Canada didnt keep this stuff closed and classified because it was fairy tale's.
You think governments always act logically? In the 1980s the US military conducted experiments at Fort Bragg whereby soldiers were instructed to kill goats simply by starring at them. It didn't work.

You claim that these documents were classified due to their legitimacy? In that case, their release to the public must be evidence of their unimportance, no?

Reagan had a speech where he talked about if we discovered another race how it would bring all of the countries closer on Earth.
The same Reagans who were devout believers in astrology?

But one must wonder, if Reagan believed it would unite all nations on Earth, and he had evidence of such alien visitations, why did he kept it a secret?

Not one person has commented on the Shag harbor case, oh well.
What's there to comment on? There is no evidence.

[Dont Hurt Me]

There is tons of evidence, we just choose to ignore. The U.S. admitted it had a crashed Disc in the 40's. It later became a ballon. How you get a disc from a mogul balloon I dont know but the airforce did.
Shag Harbor case is very interesting but again we choose to ignore it because its easier. It was the planet Venus. Ignore radar,ignore residents,ignore the military or just simply ignore everyone. There are plenty of solid cases but we would rather talk about the ones that arent. We have astronauts,pilots,ex military,police and many others and we choose to ignore. Thats some folks choice. Ignore is a lot like ignorant.

[Iscariot]

There is tons of evidence, we just choose to ignore.

Name one solid piece.

[Dont Hurt Me]

Dig into shag harbor, thats a big one for canadians. Here Ill help a little but this isnt the complete story. They leave out a few things.http://www.mysteriesofcanada.com/Nova_Scotia/shag_harbour_ufo.htm

[chrmjenkins]

It seems as though conspiracy theorists have more fun accusing the government of cover-ups and ignoring evidence than they actually do of discovering whether there is any merit to the claim. Moreover, it's a funny commentary on our views as government as they seemed to be revered as infallible caches of knowledge in these cases, whereas in most other cases, we treat them as buffoons.

[Iscariot]

Dig into shag harbor, thats a big one for canadians. Here Ill help a little but this isnt the complete story. They leave out a few things.http://www.mysteriesofcanada.com/Nova_Scotia/shag_harbour_ufo.htm

So… eyewitness testimony.

Name one solid piece of evidence.

And it's not a big one for Canadians. The Ogopogo on the other hand…

[Dont Hurt Me]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17753893/The video link is interesting, perhaps the first denial by the govt.:cool:

[MacNut]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17753893/The video link is interesting, perhaps the first denial by the govt.:cool:Until I see little green man walking around we have to take this all with a grain of salt. Not to say that we haven't been visited but why no solid evidence. Our government can't cover stuff up, if they did it is way high up and only a handful of people know.

[Dont Hurt Me]

Until I see little green man walking around we have to take this all with a grain of salt. Not to say that we haven't been visited but why no solid evidence. Our government can't cover stuff up, if they did it is way high up and only a handful of people know.
Thats funny, our govt can and does cover up things it wants to. Thats a naive statement nut. I was part of a cover up as were many others.

[Jaffa Cake]

I was part of a cover up as were many others.Apologies if I've missed you discussing this elsewhere, but what cover up were you part of exactly? Assuming you can tell us, of course...

[EricNau]

It seems as though conspiracy theorists have more fun accusing the government of cover-ups and ignoring evidence than they actually do of discovering whether there is any merit to the claim.
Absolutely. They point to anomalies and unexplained events and immediately jump to the most implausible conclusion, when there are an exorbitant amount of alternative explanations.

Occam's razor: Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity. In other words, the simpler the explanation, the better. In this case, we must eliminate all terrestrial explanations before we consider extraterrestrial sources.

Moreover, it's a funny commentary on our views as government as they seemed to be revered as infallible caches of knowledge in these cases, whereas in most other cases, we treat them as buffoons.
Exactly right again. These conspiracy theories bestow upon the government an unrealistic level of aptitude and secrecy. The Federal U.S. government alone is run by thousands of individuals, each serving staggered terms typically not lasting longer than a decade. Take into account the tens of thousands of state and local representatives and secrecy of this nature simply isn't possible.


Thats funny, our govt can and does cover up things it wants to.
Apparently Clinton missed that memo. :rolleyes:

[Schtumple]

Why on earth would aliens go to canada?

Dodgy satnav...

[iJohnHenry]

I lump this in with the chutzpah of God selecting us for His "chosen people".

Any sentient being capable of space travel would give this POS planet a wide berth.

Perhaps this "news" would better come under bread and circuses, the better to distract the Baldrick's of the World??

[MacNut]

Thats funny, our govt can and does cover up things it wants to. Thats a naive statement nut. I was part of a cover up as were many others.There is a ton of top secret stuff that we don't know about. But alien invasions would be hard to cover up from everyone that would see them. Unless of course the MIB neuralizer is used.

The government could not even keep A-Rod's drug test secret. How will they keep aliens quite?

[Counterfit]

It was an unidentified flying substance. :p It came from the alien cousin so we didn't ask questions.
Well played, sir. :D
The government could not even keep A-Rod's drug test secret. How will they keep aliens quite?

Meh, that's the MLBPA's fault anyway.

[mactastic]

Why on earth would aliens go to canada?
They wanted to check out America's Hat?

Thats funny, our govt can and does cover up things it wants to. Thats a naive statement nut. I was part of a cover up as were many others.
The fact that our government has covered up things in the past is not proof of extraterrestrial life.

[Dont Hurt Me]

They wanted to check out America's Hat?


The fact that our government has covered up things in the past is not proof of extraterrestrial life.No its not, in fact every single picture, every bit off film, all radar and every single cop,astronaut,pilot, has got to be mistaken. We are alone in the universe.

PS.
Please pay no attention to anything flying around in the Bible.....it was......god and his angels...yeah thats the ticket!

[.Andy]

No its not, in fact every single picture, every bit off film, all radar and every single cop,astronaut,pilot, has got to be mistaken. We are alone in the universe.
These are two separate points you're confusing.

(1) it's highly likely that we're not alone in the universe. That can easily be demonstrated scientifically and logically. However;

(2) it's highly unlikely we're sharing the universe with species who at this exact point in history have mastered intergalactic travel and have travelled to earth and who apparently do it covertly but get caught on radar, film, and seen and crash into lakes and forests all too regularly only for it all to be covered up fantastically efficiently by governments worldwide.

[mactastic]

No its not, in fact every single picture, every bit off film, all radar and every single cop,astronaut,pilot, has got to be mistaken. We are alone in the universe.

PS.
Please pay no attention to anything flying around in the Bible.....it was......god and his angels...yeah thats the ticket!
:rolleyes:

What .Andy said. You're deliberately conflating two entirely separate concepts in this attempt to twist my words around.

[Dont Hurt Me]

:rolleyes:

What .Andy said. You're deliberately conflating two entirely separate concepts in this attempt to twist my words around.
Im not twisting either every single account of every single ufo is a mistake or lie or ours, but if only one out of the thousands and thousands of sightings around the world is true then we have been contacted.

Im leaning that one of these cases is the real deal.
Canada didnt keep all these cases under wraps because they thought they were all fraud or mistakes or military projects, So Thats my argument you 68040!(wow)

[maestro55]

Well the truth is slowly coming out, Canada has joined others to release ( older) UFO files from 1947 to the early 80s. There a couple of cases that are loaded with evidence,facts and many witness both military and police. Shag harbor case for one.http://www.ufocasebook.com/2009/canadareleases.html

Its time the U.S. govt stops the cover up. We are grown up enough to accept that there may be life in the cosmos older and smarter then us. Ronald Reagan was hinting this in a famous speech.

Thanks for posting this, now only if the United States would do the same. Of course I am sure that the majority of the documents from the 1947 Crash in Roswell have been either destroyed or greatly changed. But yes, the evidence is there and while there are enough hoaxes and fake stories to make the realities seem fake but it would be interesting to get some evidence uncovered and get down to the inside of the cover up.

[mactastic]

Im not twisting either every single account of every single ufo is a mistake or lie or ours, but if only one out of the thousands and thousands of sightings around the world is true then we have been contacted.

Im leaning that one of these cases is the real deal.
Canada didnt keep all these cases under wraps because they thought they were all fraud or mistakes or military projects, So Thats my argument you 68040!(wow)
Maybe one of them does prove contact. All I said was that the fact that the government has previously attempted to cover some things up is not proof of extraterrestrial life.

You then took that and attempted to say that I was trying to say there was no other life in the universe, which was a complete twisting of my words.