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MrCatMan
Feb 20, 2009, 09:40 AM
I have a MacBook with 2 gB of ram and about a 2.2 gHz intel processor.

On average running a film through

Mac the Ripper: takes about 25 mins
Handbrake takes about 40 mins

What sort of average speeds do you get?

MrCatMan



Sky Blue
Feb 20, 2009, 10:01 AM
Handbrake takes about 40 mins


Depends on what resolution/bit rate you're using surely?

mastershakess
Feb 20, 2009, 10:02 AM
sounds about right if I'm not doing anything else on my computer at the same time

jcschlic
Feb 20, 2009, 10:14 AM
On my Macbook C2D @ 2ghz with 2gb of ram Handbrake encodes take about two hours on these settings:

Handbrake version 0.9.2 (I heard there were issues with 0.9.3 so I have not bothered to upgrade)
Apple TV preset
Two-pass encoding with turbo first pass
Keep aspect ratio: on
Deinterlace: on

Obviously it all depends on what movie you are ripping. Larger quality sources will take longer and lesser quality sources will go faster.

This setting seems to work the best for me. I hook it up via HDMI to my 42" Panasonic plasma and I could not be happier with the results.

This ongoing process of ripping my library is a big plus in the wife-factor arena as well...she can watch the movies quite easily.

NightStorm
Feb 20, 2009, 10:22 AM
On my Macbook C2D @ 2ghz with 2gb of ram Handbrake encodes take about two hours on these settings:

Handbrake version 0.9.2 (I heard there were issues with 0.9.3 so I have not bothered to upgrade)
Apple TV preset
Two-pass encoding with turbo first pass
Keep aspect ratio: on
Deinterlace: on

Obviously it all depends on what movie you are ripping. Larger quality sources will take longer and lesser quality sources will go faster.

This setting seems to work the best for me. I hook it up via HDMI to my 42" Panasonic plasma and I could not be happier with the results.

This ongoing process of ripping my library is a big plus in the wife-factor arena as well...she can watch the movies quite easily.
I hope you aren't using deinterlace on sources that don't need it... if so you're hurting your encode speed and quality.

.9.3 includes the decomb filter which will only deinterlace when it detects it is necessary, but it sounds like you have your own reasons for not wanting to upgrade.

jcschlic
Feb 20, 2009, 10:26 AM
If upgrading to 0.9.3 is worth it and will save me time then I will go ahead and upgrade. It's just that when it was first released I read numerous postings of the application no longer working-period. Maybe that is no longer an issue...I should probably go ahead and just upgrade because your point of deinterlace on/off is obviously something to think about when going through this process.

NightStorm
Feb 20, 2009, 10:29 AM
If upgrading to 0.9.3 is worth it and will save me time then I will go ahead and upgrade. It's just that when it was first released I read numerous postings of the application no longer working-period. Maybe that is no longer an issue...I should probably go ahead and just upgrade because your point of deinterlace on/off is obviously something to think about when going through this process.

Honestly, most of the problems were caused by people either not reading the release notes for .9.3, or not updating their presets via the menu bar.

TheZA
Feb 20, 2009, 10:42 AM
On 1.83 iMac C2D with 2 Gb RAM:

MTR 14m on standard 1.5 to 2 hour movie: about 17 minutes average; rarely over 20 minutes but that will happen if the disk is new and has a lot of mastering junk. Actually, I've had some older 1.5 hour movies rip in 10 minutes.

Handbrake 0.9.3 with newest VLC, last night I did a 2 hour movie from disk (not ripped with MTR first), to mp4 using Normal preset with two passes (first one turbo), decomb to default, detelecline on; about 3 hours. Those are typically the settings I use and it takes a little over 1.5 times the running length of the movie. If I use the Apple TV preset it is faster, but for my equipment, I've had excellent luck with the Normal present, decomb to default, detecline on, anamorphic to loose.

MrCatMan
Feb 20, 2009, 10:55 AM
I hope you aren't using deinterlace on sources that don't need it... if so you're hurting your encode speed and quality.

.9.3 includes the decomb filter which will only deinterlace when it detects it is necessary, but it sounds like you have your own reasons for not wanting to upgrade.

What does de-interlace do?

cantthinkofone
Feb 20, 2009, 11:53 AM
MTR V3 takes about 17-35 minutes.

Hand-break using the xbox360 preset, 2 pass encoding with turbo takes about 2 hours.

dylanbrown
Feb 20, 2009, 12:00 PM
With my 2GHz Late 2007 MacBook with 4GB Ram, the latest HandBrake version and the preset set to iPod touch/iPhone it usually takes the length of the video to do its thing.

rWally
Feb 20, 2009, 12:33 PM
I have a 2.33 GHz C2D white iMac with 2 GB of RAM.

Mine usually plugs along at around 20 fps for movies using the appleTV preset in .93 with CRF cranked up to 62%. Takes about 15% longer than the actual movie to finish an encode.

For TV shows I use the universal preset at 59% CRF with decomb on and that will usually slow down to around 14-17 fps.

I'm curious as to the speeds mac pro users are getting vs. the newest iMacs. I'm looking at upgrading my computer in the next year and would be interested in what speeds they're getting.

jaw04005
Feb 20, 2009, 12:59 PM
My Dell XPS Studio (running 10.5.6, Core i7 920 2.66Ghz, 4 real cores, 4 logical cores) rips a full DVD in 20 to 40 minutes depending on length using the standard Apple TV preset (59% CRF). I get roughly 83 FPS on average, and I'm being very conservative with that number.

That's with a standard 7200RPM drive, and ripping directly from a DVD drive.

Obviously, features like decomb slow the FPS down. Additionally, if you rip the DVD to another hard drive first, it may speed up your encode time.

If you want to go all out, get a pair of velociraptor drives in a RAID array. :)

My MacBook Core 2 Duo 2Ghz takes roughly 2 1/2 hours to process the same film.

I have a feeling the next few years of Mac updates are going to game changers with regards to performance.

Tastannin
Feb 20, 2009, 01:13 PM
My MacPro averages around 20-30 min per movie right from DVD via Handbrake, using the Universal setting, and subtitles turned on. I have two optical drives, so I can put in two movies and set up them to queue, and come back in about a hour and repeat the process. Movies look great on my ATV.

I need to test pre-rips using MTR to see if it's worth the extra step so I can have the MacPro/Handbrake work all night uninterrupted on a huge queue.

rWally
Feb 20, 2009, 01:42 PM
My MacPro averages around 20-30 min per movie right from DVD via Handbrake, using the Universal setting, and subtitles turned on. I have two optical drives, so I can put in two movies and set up them to queue, and come back in about a hour and repeat the process. Movies look great on my ATV.

I need to test pre-rips using MTR to see if it's worth the extra step so I can have the MacPro/Handbrake work all night uninterrupted on a huge queue.

I'd definitely recommend using MTR. It allows you to que up a large amount of files to encode and saves a lot of time. Handbrake isn't really meant to be used as a ripper anyway and support for it is pretty much non-existent (rightfully so). There are also a lot of newer movies out there that have pretty intense copy protections that make a dedicated ripper very valuable.

slothrob
Feb 20, 2009, 02:09 PM
My 1 ghz iBook G4 takes about 20 hours to Handbrake a film to aTV setting.:eek:

celica73
Feb 20, 2009, 04:26 PM
I'd definitely recommend using MTR. It allows you to que up a large amount of files to encode and saves a lot of time. Handbrake isn't really meant to be used as a ripper anyway and support for it is pretty much non-existent (rightfully so). There are also a lot of newer movies out there that have pretty intense copy protections that make a dedicated ripper very valuable.

Yes, it is worth it (especially on a slow machine).

I'll use MTR to rip one movie and start that in Handbrake. While Handbrake is working on movie #1 I will use MTR to rip several more (I'm on a MBP 2.4, and average about 20 fps ripping, not quite real time).

After ripping several movies, I put them all in the handbrake queue and pop one final disk in the computer and add that to the queue. In the morning they are all done. I can get through about 4 movies in an hour of time in front of the computer.

Scott

qwertyuiop7
Feb 20, 2009, 05:27 PM
My 1 ghz iBook G4 takes about 20 hours to Handbrake a film to aTV setting.:eek:

Glad to see i'm not alone, my 1.5ghz 12inch powerbook usually takes at least 24 hours for a 2hr film on Atv preset, and boy does is get hot when its doing it:)

Phil

Chase R
Feb 20, 2009, 06:20 PM
Ripping a DVD to my HDD via MacTheRipper usually takes around a half hour.

Keebler
Feb 20, 2009, 07:50 PM
wouldn't using MTR mean it's up to the DVD drive speed? I ask b/c when I use the older drive on my mac pro it's longer than when I use the newer drive - maybe 20 mins for the newer drive and 45 for the older one.

HB varies as well. i'm still playing with different quality settings vs speed.

iSaygoodbye
Feb 20, 2009, 08:43 PM
you guys are lucky! on my piece of crap pc it takes like 5 hours! cant wait till i get my mac

eXan
Feb 20, 2009, 11:09 PM
MacBook Core 2 Duo 2 GHz 2GB RAM (late 2006), iPod Legacy preset:

14-20 FPS, depending on the movie and what I'm doing with the computer during encode.

jaw04005
Feb 20, 2009, 11:29 PM
wouldn't using MTR mean it's up to the DVD drive speed? I ask b/c when I use the older drive on my mac pro it's longer than when I use the newer drive - maybe 20 mins for the newer drive and 45 for the older one.

Are both the of drives DVD burners? There is such a thing called rip-lock that prevents some DVD drives from reading DVDs at full speed. Generally, it's only on DVD burners.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riplock

All the Matshita slot-loading drives have rip-lock.

OP: You should have chosen a preset for our replies in this thread. It's hard to compare across multiple presets and settings.

franzmueller
Feb 21, 2009, 12:12 AM
Glad to see i'm not alone, my 1.5ghz 12inch powerbook usually takes at least 24 hours for a 2hr film on Atv preset, and boy does is get hot when its doing it:)

Phil

Yeah , thats crazy , I have a G4 1,2 GHz too and when I first time encoded a DVD with the new 2,4 GHz blackbook I could not believe it was done in less than an hour !:eek: ( iphone preset )

Saludos

pkoch1
Feb 21, 2009, 10:28 AM
MTR takes about 15 minutes and Handbrake takes about 10-11, or 15-20 if I am doing two movies at a time

azdunerat
Feb 21, 2009, 11:01 AM
Using ripit usually takes about 35-45 minutes

rhett7660
Feb 21, 2009, 11:43 AM
MTR takes about 15 minutes and Handbrake takes about 10-11, or 15-20 if I am doing two movies at a time

That is about right. Although I am now pretty much just using handbrake to do a good majority of my rips. So about 15 minutes depending on the length of the movie. My files once it is all said and done are usually 3-6gigs.

FF_productions
Feb 21, 2009, 12:14 PM
Generally my Mac Pro can rip a movie in MTR within 10 or so minutes, then handbrake (Apple TV setting), it does the movie in about 50 minutes to an hour. If I want a turbo rip aka somebody just came to house with DVD, I set my settings for Mpeg4 and I get a feature film ripped with 10-15 minutes.


In laymans terms, my pops can come home with a DVD, 10-15 minutes later (think about it, who comes home with a DVD, and immediately pops it in DVD player), it's in iTunes library and playing on Apple TV.

I'm so Anti-DVD I refuse to play DVD's at this house, as long as this Mac Pro is here, I'm just not going to use the DVD player.

GreatDrok
Feb 21, 2009, 04:17 PM
I have three Macs and a AMD Sempron Linux box. Most of my ripping is done on the Linux machine using HandBrakeCLI 0.9.3 which I compiled from source.

For DVD rips, I generally use straight MP4 rather than H.264 because it is so much quicker. A two pass 2500 max 640 wide MP4 rip on the single core 2.0 Sempron gets about 70 fps so will encode a 2 hour movie in a little under two hours total (remember two passes). File size is probably a little larger than many would like at about 1.8GB. I also make sure I include an AC3 sound track if available. My 2.0 CD MacBook Pro using both cores will rip at about 60 fps so is a little slower than the Sempron despite having two cores. I'm tempted to buy a dual core Athlon 64 to boost the speed at very little cost. I encode all my movies at 640 pixels width so they are compatible with my 5.5G iPod as well as the Apple TV. I know the encodes would look slightly better if I encoded them using the ATV preset but the time it would take to do the encode, plus the loss of ability to sync them to my iPod makes it not worth it.

I also use MetaX to finish the encodes so they look nice and professional. The only problem with that is that it stuffs up the chapters if I let it touch them so I make sure I encode the chapters with HandBrake first.

The only time I use H.264 is for HD files where I've recorded a TV show with my EyeTV from Freeview HD. The conversion of a 42 min episode of Boston Legal takes about 5 hours dropping 1080i to 720p on my MBP. I did record Star Wars Episode III at 1080i on my Mac mini G4, edited out the adverts and then re-encoded to H.264 720p. It took 3 days. I won't be doing that again.

ugacdawg
Feb 22, 2009, 05:13 AM
I have a Dell Q6600 box and it converts a regular DVD (using standard AppleTV setting with 62% quality) in about 35 minutes but for a BD (using standard AppleTV with 5000 datarate setting and 1280 video) takes about 2.5 hours. This is for H.264 m4v files.

jimmypopjr
Feb 22, 2009, 12:39 PM
I'm on a late 2008 MBP with 2.53Ghz.

I do AppleTV presets and it usually takes about the length of a film.

This is the first I'm hearing of riplock, though. Would getting an externam DVD drive help me out in getting quicker rip/encode times?

rdlink
Feb 22, 2009, 03:34 PM
Why is it taking me so long (about 2 hours for a movie) with a Macbook 2.4, with 4GB RAM? I'm using ATV preset in Handbrake .93 with H.264 as the codec. No deinterlacing. Anamorphic.

Lord Adama
Feb 22, 2009, 03:34 PM
Mac the ripper usually takes half an hour but once thats done I use handbrake. I have a mac pro and it usually takes half an hour to forty-five minutes on a two hour movie, any tv show just takes around fifteen minutes. The settings I use are: video: 3,500 kpbs, audio: 160 kbps at 48 khz. I have it set to 2 pass with turbo first pass enabled.


P.S. The specs are in my sig

Chase R
Feb 22, 2009, 05:17 PM
Mac the ripper usually takes half an hour but once thats done I use handbrake. I have a mac pro and it usually takes half an hour to forty-five minutes on a two hour movie, any tv show just takes around fifteen minutes. The settings I use are: video: 3,500 kpbs, audio: 160 kbps at 48 khz. I have it set to 2 pass with turbo first pass enabled.


P.S. The specs are in my sig

Damn... I could use a Mac Pro.

TuffLuffJimmy
Feb 22, 2009, 05:21 PM
Why is it taking me so long (about 2 hours for a movie) with a Macbook 2.4, with 4GB RAM? I'm using ATV preset in Handbrake .93 with H.264 as the codec. No deinterlacing. Anamorphic.

Because you're using a laptop. That speed sounds about right.

Chase R
Feb 22, 2009, 05:32 PM
Why is it taking me so long (about 2 hours for a movie) with a Macbook 2.4, with 4GB RAM? I'm using ATV preset in Handbrake .93 with H.264 as the codec. No deinterlacing. Anamorphic.

I have the same MB as you and that's about what mine is depending on the source. Nothing to worry about.

Sky Blue
Feb 22, 2009, 06:15 PM
Why is it taking me so long (about 2 hours for a movie) with a Macbook 2.4, with 4GB RAM? I'm using ATV preset in Handbrake .93 with H.264 as the codec. No deinterlacing. Anamorphic.

That's normal.

TuffLuffJimmy
Feb 22, 2009, 06:21 PM
That's normal.

thanks for contributing. :rolleyes:

rdlink
Feb 22, 2009, 06:39 PM
Thanks for the replies. I was just seeing the responses talking about 25 and 30 minutes, and got alarmed that I was missing a setting or something.

bloogersnigen
Feb 22, 2009, 07:10 PM
8X2.8 mac pro, 10 GB ram, RAID 1+0 drive (4X1 TB)

MTR takes 25 minutes
Handbrakes takes 15-20 with at 2500 kb/s

rWally
Feb 23, 2009, 01:50 AM
8X2.8 mac pro, 10 GB ram, RAID 1+0 drive (4X1 TB)

MTR takes 25 minutes
Handbrakes takes 15-20 with at 2500 kb/s

I really gotta get one of those... :)

macuser154
Feb 23, 2009, 02:59 PM
My MacBook Pro (see sig) takes about 40-60 mins to rip an average length film on the normal settings. I also have it on 2-pass encoding, with turbo first pass turned on.

Sky Blue
Feb 23, 2009, 03:40 PM
thanks for contributing. :rolleyes:

Thanks for replying to my contribution :rolleyes: