Passing a drug test. Any tips or input? [Archive]

CalPoly10

Feb 25, 2009, 01:47 PM

I am not a regular smoker. Last Monday (9 days ago), I smoked some weed, and I also smoked once or twice theprior week.

Before that last session, it had been about 4 months.

Last Monday, JUST after I smoked, I read an eMail from a big-time employer I had interviewed with a few weeks prior. They want to hire me, and I have to do a drug test by this Friday. That gives me a total of 11 days to be clean.

Background: I am in incredible shape. I workout every day, either biking, running, or swimming. Very low body fat, I drink tons of fluids.

Are there any smokers here with input? Do you think I will pass?

NC MacGuy

Feb 25, 2009, 01:50 PM

Only way to truly pass, "borrow" some clean pee. They usually hand you the cup and you can dump it in. Keep it close to your body before so it's warm. Make sure person is of same gender.;)

iJohnHenry

Feb 25, 2009, 01:52 PM

And, and know your pee'or. ;)

arkitect

Feb 25, 2009, 01:53 PM

You need the Whizzanator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whizzinator)…

:D

Edit: I know the smell stays on your clothes forever… but how long does it actually stay in your body's system? :confused:

ziggyonice

Feb 25, 2009, 01:53 PM

Answer: Don't do drugs.

NC MacGuy

Feb 25, 2009, 01:56 PM

Answer: Don't do drugs.

That's the easy answer, especially after the fact.

emt1

Feb 25, 2009, 01:57 PM

Cranberry juice, and lots of it.

iJohnHenry

Feb 25, 2009, 01:59 PM

Funny stuff. :D

In 2006, a Pittsburgh-area woman and her friend were charged with disorderly conduct and criminal mischief after they asked a convenience store clerk to microwave one of the devices so the woman could pass a drug test.

The clerk, thinking it was a real penis, called police.

The couple were required to reimburse the chain for the cost of a new microwave; OSHA regulations do not allow microwaves to be used once bodily fluids have been in them.

No kidding. :p

NC MacGuy

Feb 25, 2009, 02:00 PM

If you can't borrow pee, go as late in the day as possible and drink tons of water and cranberry juice before. Pee a whole lot before test. By drug test time, you should be peeing close to water.

Kilamite

Feb 25, 2009, 02:02 PM

jessica.

Feb 25, 2009, 02:14 PM

Weed stays in your system for up to two weeks..

Can't say whether it'll get picked up on the drug test or not - but they are testing more for the likes of cocaine; addictive drugs that can affect you as a person and directly affect the company.

I'm a fairly regular cannabis smoker (once or twice a month - depending on how stressed I am with Uni work..) btw.

11 days will probably be enough - you weren't absolutely blazed?

The company is most likely testing for everything, even weed.

Companies drug test for a reason. My hope is that some kid who sparks up every weekend isn't responsible for anything that could directly affect my personal safety.

Failing will just help the OP learn his lesson. Sounds like he is Captain Awesome anyway so it won't be long before he lands another interview/job.

In this market it is stupid to do anything to jeopardize your chances of employment.

My advice, you need to flush your system.

poopyhead

Feb 25, 2009, 02:18 PM

you need a detox pill and a gallon of ice tea or a pot of coffee the day of the test.

the pills are about 25 bucks but they work.

GSMiller

Feb 25, 2009, 02:29 PM

The first time you smoke in 4 months and it's a week before a job interview?

Bad timing my friend.

michael.lauden

Feb 25, 2009, 02:37 PM

keep in mind - the more things you put in to your body. the more will come out.

and the more exercise you go through - the more toxins that will come out of your body.

i'd say drink a bottle of water every hour

and go boot camp style on your cardio training.

eat fruits and veggies.

if all else fails - get a family sized visine bottle, get a buddy to pee in it for you.. and this may sound gross... but keep it in between your legs to make it warm.

you will be ok. smoking is bad though

ghoztman

Feb 25, 2009, 02:41 PM

Withnail (and i) would tell you to get some unadulterated child's piss.

velocityg4

Feb 25, 2009, 03:07 PM

Years ago when I used to smoke I smoked a lot. Probably around 4 times a day. Eventually I simply got bored with it and stopped.

Anyways up until two days before a drug test I was smoking and still managed to pass. Basically the day before the test I drank 1 gallon of cranberry juice and 2 gallons of water. I did the same on the day of the test. The same method has never failed any of my friends.

With that much liquid intake you end up needing to use the rest room every 3 or 4 minutes, I stopped at two gas stations on a fifteen minute drive for testing. But your urine will be so diluted that it will pass.

By the way I used to like cranberry juice but after that I can not touch the stuff:D

iJohnHenry

Feb 25, 2009, 03:09 PM

I'm trying to get a handle on whether he would be best served by using the pee in the early stream, the middle stream or the dregs.

Any opinions??

andrewsd

Feb 25, 2009, 03:10 PM

:cool:I don't smoke a lot maybe once a month max but I kinda came a across the same situation at a previous job and they where going around drug testing.. I just dran pickle juice and other vinergary type stuff.. also go to a local drug store and get an at home drug test and test yourself.. I think you will be fine.. Now of to job that doesn't drug test..:D

Dagless

Feb 25, 2009, 03:24 PM

Answer: Don't do drugs.

Damn, I was gonna say that. It's a sure fire way of passing a drugs test.

zelmo

Feb 25, 2009, 03:32 PM

Be careful about trying to dilute. The firm my company uses does a nine panel drug test and will kick out false negatives (diluted samples, primarily) requiring an immediate re-test.

It's why I stopped smoking grass twelve years ago. My job is too important to my family for me to (literally;))piss it away. Good luck, and stay clean. It's simply not worth it.

nick9191

Feb 25, 2009, 03:34 PM

Detox pills, lots of cranberry juice, and vegetables.

marbles

Feb 25, 2009, 03:45 PM

I was going to say don't do drugs too, ah well , I can say this instead , don't get a job with some company who inspect your piss, invasion of privacy imo.
ye safety aside of course.

Good advice already given by others here , I'd go for that and maybe a sauna or three for good measure, along with a simple two day fast.

@ iJohnHenry, I'd guess at mid stream, that's the part they say is safest to drink should the need arise

jmann

Feb 25, 2009, 03:52 PM

I smoke weed too, and knew I wasn't going wasn't going to pass any drug test, so I did what anyone else with an identical twin does. I drove my drug free twin to the lab, and gave him my id and had him take my test for me. Best idea ever. :D But I only thought of it after I wasted my money on some body detox thing. But you most likely don't have a twin.

I'm 100% serious too. Being a twin rocks ;)

CalPoly10

Feb 25, 2009, 04:07 PM

marbles

Feb 25, 2009, 04:11 PM

chillout man , oops wrong terminology :p .

You'll be fine and if you fail , move on and remember ! do it like Clinton next time ;)

The warm pee is a none issue , just warm it by holding next to a coffee cup before you go in and then keep it in your underpants to retain the warm , piece of.... err... piss :)

jessica.

Feb 25, 2009, 04:23 PM

I'm debating whether to get some of my friend's pee (who is drug free) and use it for the test. I'm just worried about the temperature of his pee.

I run and sweat a lot, and have been in the sauna/steam room about 5 times in the past week.

I drink tons of water too.

Clearly you have no conception of how a drug test works ... and why would you right? I had to take it for my company and I assure you, I was not allowed to bring anything in ... and as a female, that included personal feminine products.

bah, this is miserable.
Lessons learned. :cool:

Aeolius

Feb 25, 2009, 04:31 PM

CalPoly10

Feb 25, 2009, 04:36 PM

Clearly you have no conception of how a drug test works ... and why would you right? I had to take it for my company and I assure you, I was not allowed to bring anything in ... and as a female, that included personal feminine products.

Lessons learned. :cool:

Believe me, I've drug tested before.

You can easily put something in your underwear between the...well, nevermind haha. It will stay warm, and trust me, it won't be found.

marbles

Feb 25, 2009, 04:41 PM

Clearly you have no conception of how a drug test works ... and why would you right? I had to take it for my company and I assure you, I was not allowed to bring anything in ... and as a female, that included personal feminine products.

Lessons learned. :cool:
So do they stand over you while you do it?, I highly doubt it but if so I'd tell em where to stick the job frankly, no way I would do that , degrading and invasion of privacy,period.

Down the ol underpants with a sample bottle/whatever with clean piss in it and that's it, done.

I wouldn't take weed unless I required it for medicinal, it'll wreck your head up after a while if you did.

edit** You know it's incensed me this thread , I can't get over the fact that company's are allowed to do this.

jzuena

Feb 25, 2009, 04:45 PM

Of course if their test requires a hair sample, that tends to show everything you've done over the past several months. And yes, showing up for the test completely bald and shaven might set off some red flags. ;)

Not if you planned ahead and were bald on the interview, too! ... unless, of course, they check if you are clean shaven in areas other than your face :eek:

barr08

Feb 25, 2009, 04:49 PM

Only way to truly pass, "borrow" some clean pee. They usually hand you the cup and you can dump it in. Keep it close to your body before so it's warm. Make sure person is of same gender.;)

Urine actually is gender-neutral

EricNau

Feb 25, 2009, 04:52 PM

Urine actually is gender-neutral
Not if you're pregnant.

NT1440

Feb 25, 2009, 04:53 PM

OP, I'm no expert on the subject of passing these tests but I do have a little tidbit that may be beneficial to know to you. THC stays in the fat of your body. Seeing as you have a low amount of that, you could possibly be clean much sooner than say, a 500 lb person.

Gelfin

Feb 25, 2009, 04:54 PM

Urine actually is gender-neutral

How do you think home pregnancy tests work?

jessica.

Feb 25, 2009, 05:00 PM

So do they stand over you while you do it?, I highly doubt it but if so I'd tell em where to stick the job frankly, no way I would do that , degrading and invasion of privacy,period.

Down the ol underpants with a sample bottle/whatever with clean piss in it and that's it, done.

I wouldn't take weed unless I required it for medicinal, it'll wreck your head up after a while if you did.

edit** You know it's incensed me this thread , I can't get over the fact that company's are allowed to do this.
No did I say they stood over you? Read again. I said that you can't enter with ANYTHING on your person and I gave the extreme (I guess I have to spell it out) they would not allow me to even enter with a new tampon as I was about to do away the old one. So yeah, you get a vile of piss in then I'm going to be rather impressed.

And why do companies do this? Because they don't want some drugged up twunt endangering themselves or others. Some jobs need a bit of focus ... I mean outside McDonalds and the likes.

question fear

Feb 25, 2009, 05:01 PM

So do they stand over you while you do it?, I highly doubt it but if so I'd tell em where to stick the job frankly, no way I would do that , degrading and invasion of privacy,period.

Down the ol underpants with a sample bottle/whatever with clean piss in it and that's it, done.

I wouldn't take weed unless I required it for medicinal, it'll wreck your head up after a while if you did.

edit** You know it's incensed me this thread , I can't get over the fact that company's are allowed to do this.

When I had a drug test about 7 years ago for Best Buy the drug testing person made me keep the door open and my hands where she could see them while I peed. I was actually incredibly annoyed for a few reasons:

-I was clean, and was really annoyed that I was being treated like a cheater.
-It was a freaking part-time retail job for college. All I wanted was enough money to cover my post-rugby match beers, and something to do when I wasn't playing video games while "writing my senior thesis".
-I HATE having people near me when I pee.

I've always assumed BB did it for insurance/liability reasons...they make you use forklifts and other large pieces of equipment in the warehouse when shipments come in, plus you don't want someone impaired lifting a 75lb TV...

CalPoly10

Feb 25, 2009, 05:10 PM

Mord

Feb 25, 2009, 05:12 PM

The messed up thing is that the harder drugs would have been out of your system by now, a friend of mine gets randomly tested by his employer so he's stopped smoking the occasional spliff and instead does E acid and shrooms.

Drug testing employees has never made sense to me, if the drugs are having a detrimental effect on productivity then you can fire them for being pants at their job, if they're not having a negative impact then how is an employees habits their business?

marbles

Feb 25, 2009, 05:15 PM

No did I say they stood over you? Read again. I said that you can't enter with ANYTHING on your person and I gave the extreme (I guess I have to spell it out) they would not allow me to even enter with a new tampon as I was about to do away the old one. So yeah, you get a vile of piss in then I'm going to be rather impressed.

Whoa, back up there lady, I never said they stood over you !. Please read what I said again, noting the question mark at the end of my question !.

I suggest before one one starts rampaging at fellow MR members make sure you read the post that has angered you thoroughly first.
I am also aware what you meant by ladies products when you mentioned it discreetly in your original post, spelling out not required, maybe it's a bad day ? but no need for the attitude toward me, no need at all!.

Btw, I highly doubt I will ever need to sneak a vile of piss anywhere .Not because I work at Mcdonalds or the like you understand .
Good luck on your next test:)

When I had a drug test about 7 years ago for Best Buy the drug testing person made me keep the door open and my hands where she could see them while I peed. I was actually incredibly annoyed for a few reasons:

-I was clean, and was really annoyed that I was being treated like a cheater.
-It was a freaking part-time retail job for college. All I wanted was enough money to cover my post-rugby match beers, and something to do when I wasn't playing video games while "writing my senior thesis".
-I HATE having people near me when I pee.

I've always assumed BB did it for insurance/liability reasons...they make you use forklifts and other large pieces of equipment in the warehouse when shipments come in, plus you don't want someone impaired lifting a 75lb TV...

I can understand a test of this nature when the job would entail the personal safety of others, such as you described with the forklift, and you are right to be incredibly annoyed at the actions of that particular 'tester'. It is an invasion of privacy, pure and simple.

Kilamite

Feb 25, 2009, 05:25 PM

Drug testing employees has never made sense to me, if the drugs are having a detrimental effect on productivity then you can fire them for being pants at their job, if they're not having a negative impact then how is an employees habits their business?

Exactly.

And I hate people who are sharp about drugs - so sharp that they forget or don't realise that alcohol and tobacco as well as coffee are drugs too. I'm for the criminalising for drug offences related to cocaine, heroine, meth and all the other hard drugs. But cannabis... come on. I hate how it is thrown out there and people talk about it like it is a hard drug and is serious. Shows how poorly educated most people (and all politicians) are on drugs.

Recently, in the UK they've upgraded cannabis to Class B. Woopy do. Is that going to stop me? Hell no. Just Mr.Brown wants to make it look like he's doing something.

It is a waste of police time dealing with stoners - what we gonna do? Rob a McDonalds because we are so hungry? Compared to alcohol where we'd be burning it down, fighting people...

And to those who say, "don't do drugs" - why? Just because the government makes it clear they don't want people on anything other than these drugs: coffee, alcohol and tobacco. Why? Profit. They can tax alcohol so bad and it has become a way of life that they can't change that.

And you know what - if alcohol had been discovered today, it'd be a Class A drug.

Dagless

Feb 25, 2009, 05:50 PM

Exactly.

And I hate people who are sharp about drugs - so sharp that they forget or don't realise that alcohol and tobacco as well as coffee are drugs too. I'm for the criminalising for drug offences related to cocaine, heroine, meth and all the other hard drugs. But cannabis... come on. I hate how it is thrown out there and people talk about it like it is a hard drug and is serious.

Wow.
No, IMO it's fine the way it is. I've seen how cannabis can mess the mind up.

I'll give you alcohol but equating cannabis and caffeine :rolleyes:

Kilamite

Feb 25, 2009, 05:56 PM

Wow.
No, IMO it's fine the way it is. I've seen how cannabis can mess the mind up.

I'll give you alcohol but equating cannabis and caffeine :rolleyes:

And a lot of anything doesn't?

Where did I say cannabis and caffeine are equal..?

I know the effects of cannabis, and smoke it everyday in large amounts, your paranoia and general morale will be affected. I'm not denying the mental health issues - some of the stronger skunk out there can be more serious.

But to compare cannabis to heroine? No way...it isn't that serious.

iJohnHenry

Feb 25, 2009, 06:09 PM

I'm not denying the mental health issues - some of the stronger skunk out there can be more serious.

Is he "pungent"?? :eek:

But to compare cannabis to heroine? No way...it isn't that serious.

Queue the "gateway" crowd. :rolleyes:

Mr. Giver '94

Feb 25, 2009, 06:18 PM

Drink lots of water. I'm not a smoker but i assume that will help 'cleanse' your system.

DON'T EAT A POPPYSEED BAGEL!!!!! MYTHBUSTERS HAS PROVEN IT WILL CAUSE YOU TO FAIL!!!! :eek:

Kilamite

Feb 25, 2009, 06:25 PM

Queue the "gateway" crowd. :rolleyes:

So they say..

But it is down to the person - smoking weed doesn't mean you are going to try other drugs. It does open up the doorway a little - you see the drugs industry and dealings and your dealer might tell you he has some other stuff he can sell you. But it is down to the person and their stupidity.

srl7741

Feb 25, 2009, 06:38 PM

yg17

Feb 25, 2009, 07:01 PM

Drink lots of water. I'm not a smoker but i assume that will help 'cleanse' your system.

DON'T EAT A POPPYSEED BAGEL!!!!! MYTHBUSTERS HAS PROVEN IT WILL CAUSE YOU TO FAIL!!!! :eek:

They proved you have to eat it in large amounts.

I eat a poppyseed bagel practically every morning and have never failed a drug test.

Iscariot

Feb 25, 2009, 07:14 PM

Wow.
No, IMO it's fine the way it is. I've seen how cannabis can mess the mind up.

I'll give you alcohol but equating cannabis and caffeine :rolleyes:

I don't suppose you have anything to back that up, like say some statistics comparing hospitalization by cause, or a comparison of drug-dependency on caffeine to cannabis? Or anything other than a very strong opinion that seems to be rooted in nothing other than personal revulsion?

Mr. Giver '94

Feb 25, 2009, 07:18 PM

They proved you have to eat it in large amounts.

I eat a poppyseed bagel practically every morning and have never failed a drug test.

I guess I'd avoid it just in case....

iJohnHenry

Feb 25, 2009, 07:21 PM

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n298/caconfidential/drugsrbad.jpg

decksnap

Feb 25, 2009, 07:22 PM

lots of liquid, some exercise, cranberry juice, and I have heard Niacin.

I did these steps in the past 48 hours after copious indulgence, however the niacin managed to turn my skin florescent orange and I had to tell them I had a sun burn. ;)

zach

Feb 25, 2009, 07:29 PM

honestly, if you're really in the shape you say you are, and you've really smoked as infrequently as you say you have, and you drink plenty of water, you should pass.

advice though: make sure you urinate a few times during the day before your test, to clear out urine that's accumulated overnight with a higher amount of metabolites. work out as much as you can until the test. and make sure you give a midstream sample (start peeing into toilet, switch to cup, switch back to toilet) of your urine, rather than just peeing directly into the cup.

good luck, mate!

edit: unfortunately, niacin hasn't actually been proven to do anything. That's not saying it's impossible that it does something, but it's really not worth it.

Mr. Giver '94

Feb 25, 2009, 07:29 PM

And why do companies do this? Because they don't want some drugged up twunt endangering themselves or others. Some jobs need a bit of focus ... I mean outside McDonalds and the likes.

:D I agree. Maybe it's time to grow up and stop doing drugs......

While they may not have any major effects on you now, they will definitely mess you up in the long run.

I'm only in high school but I've already seen a lot of hardcore druggies and it's shown me how detrimental drugs can be.

Rt&Dzine

Feb 25, 2009, 07:31 PM

High-dosage aspirin may reduce the sensitivity of the EMIT urine test for pot. NOTE: I am not a medical professional and I am not recommending this.

marbles

Feb 25, 2009, 07:34 PM

@ iJohnHenry . I disagree , simply because almost anything in moderation is ok , depending on health and obvious scenarios .

Cannabis for instance can be used not only for the usual pain argument but for enlightenment, used too much and the user simply becomes a 'pot head' basically a paranoid layabout.
Used occasionally for enlightenment it opens the mind to alternatives one would not have thought of without it. I bet Steve and Woz smoked a few here and there !.

Some folks in this world would benefit a lot by smoking a joint every once in a while whilst sat in a lovely peaceful wood or by a stream (like politicians or violent criminals for instance).

I also believe all drugs should be legalized, it would remove a massive burden on law enforcement and also create a large income for local governments which could be used for good purposes, never mind the amount of power and money which would be instantly removed from the criminal element.aaannd negate the need for these ridiculous drug tests (unless injury could possibly occur if the user worked in that kind of environment , most times it seems to be office workers who are scrutinized in this way which is unnecessary imho)

Simple reason most of these substances are illegal is because it is difficult to tax them and also difficult to go back on years of propaganda.

There is a place and purpose for all these substances .

To use them and not abuse them is key .

sushi

Feb 25, 2009, 07:36 PM

Answer: Don't do drugs.
Best answer! :)

You need the Whizzanator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whizzinator)
Depending on the test site, this would not even work.

Weed stays in your system for up to two weeks..
Actually, you can tell someone has used weed for much longer than this using certain tests.

It's why I stopped smoking grass twelve years ago. My job is too important to my family for me to (literally;))piss it away. Good luck, and stay clean. It's simply not worth it.
Wise words.

Believe me, I've drug tested before.

You can easily put something in your underwear between the...well, nevermind haha. It will stay warm, and trust me, it won't be found.
Depends on the test site.

You would not make it through some that I know. However, I would imagine that this would work for many test sites.

I'm only in high school but I've already seen a lot of hardcore druggies and it's shown me how detrimental drugs can be.
Anything that you put into your body can affect it. Some more than others.

Definitely not a pretty sight in some cases.

benflick

Feb 25, 2009, 08:42 PM

Water pills are your new best friend. Piss like a racehorse.

kastenbrust

Feb 25, 2009, 09:09 PM

i'd say drink a bottle of water every hour

People have died doing that....

Dont drink more than 2.5 litres a day.
3 litres of water can be lethal to a woman.

It depends what type of drug test your doing, military drug tests can tell if you've smoked weed in the past 6 months, but most civilian ones only test for the past 2 weeks, and the strength of the weed is very important too, the level of cannaboids in the weed 40 years ago is very different to know (like 20 times the amount now) so its easy for someone to say they drank 4 litres of cranberry juice and did a voodoo dance 20 years ago and passed a drugs test when weed was basically a stronger tobacco back then. The only real guaranteed way is to not smoke it for 10 days. Put it like this, if you cant, then your addicted.

marbles

Feb 25, 2009, 09:24 PM

The only real guaranteed way is to not smoke it for 10 days. Put it like this, if you cant, then your addicted.

You cannot get physically addicted to cannabis.

Tankgunk

Feb 25, 2009, 11:58 PM

Having family in various law enforcement related fields, I know they definitely observe the process to prevent cheating, but how the company does it is really up to them.

Also, just to repeat what others have said, I've found it's a surefire way to pass a drug test to not do drugs.

You cannot get physically addicted to cannabis.
I'm of the opinion that cannabis doesn't magically do no harm to you as it screws with your nervous system, but I do wish it wasn't illegal. Make it legal, less money goes to organizations that don't deserve it. Besides, studies have suggested cannabis is safer than alcohol. Also, mental addictions can be just as powerful (if not more) than physical addictions, though no physical withdrawal is a bonus.

FF_productions

Feb 26, 2009, 12:02 AM

You cannot get physically addicted to cannabis.

True, it's kinda a "mental" thing at that point if you can't live without weed (Habit sparked by other things I'm no doctor just sayin). Lucky bastards don't have to deal with withdrawal, it's just using your brain.

gmecca2

Feb 26, 2009, 12:36 AM

NT1440

Feb 26, 2009, 12:42 AM

Wow, I don't understand how you know you are currently seeking a job but then make a decision like this. I normally don't wish bad luck upon people but come on you should be way smarter with your decision making if you are ready to take on an adult job.

:rolleyes:

You clearly know nothing about how widespread cannabis use is in this country by adults working "adult jobs".

My mom works for clearchannel, she tells me often how at company partys she is often offered a joint outside.

TheMonarch

Feb 26, 2009, 12:43 AM

Drink lots of water, but make sure you take in some electrolytes too so you don't get sick. Doing so will turn your pee really clear, and they'll know you diluted, so take plenty of B vitamins and eat meat and it'll turn yellow again.

Getting clean in 11 days might be tough though...

I don't do this [or smoke] myself, but I don't always hang out with the right crowd :p

TuffLuffJimmy

Feb 26, 2009, 12:50 AM

eat a ton of niacin and drink TONS of water, until the day before the test. Then stop taking the niacin as they test for that.

http://forum.grasscity.com/apprentice-tokers/36557-offical-how-pass-dt.html

You cannot get physically addicted to cannabis.

I'm sort of a pot head (although right now I'm on a tolerance break) but you can get physically addicted to weed. Sure the withdrawl symptoms are mild but there there. For example often times heavy smokers who quit never get very hungry for about a week.

gmecca2

Feb 26, 2009, 12:50 AM

:rolleyes:

You clearly know nothing about how widespread cannabis use is in this country by adults working "adult jobs".

My mom works for clearchannel, she tells me often how at company partys she is often offered a joint outside.

I know how widely it is used but most people have enough intelligence to know if they are looking for a job maybe they should chill out for a bit until they at least get the job. Majority of places only do drug tests upon hire and not any time further except if its required by the DOT.

Thanks for your assumption though. Since your mom tells you everything please ask her if my response is correct before responding to my follow-up post.

maestro55

Feb 26, 2009, 12:54 AM

Drug tests are such a scam. So big deal if you smoked pot on your own time a week ago? As long as you don't go to work stoned why the hell should they give you a drug test? IMHO it is actually a violation of your 4th amendment rights and the sad thing is they get away with it because people need jobs.

Sorry I don't know any tips to passing a drug test. I just never did smoke any pot when I knew I would be looking for a job.

yojitani

Feb 26, 2009, 12:59 AM

The advice to drink a lot on the day is good as far as I've heard.

I think it is a total invasion of privacy and a violation of civil liberties to test for drugs for most jobs. Of course, if you are handling equipment that could harm someone if mishandled, there is at least a reason for it.

My sister passed a test about a week after her last toking session for a hospital job. You should be fine.

NT1440

Feb 26, 2009, 12:59 AM

I know how widely it is used but most people have enough intelligence to know if they are looking for a job maybe they should chill out for a bit until they at least get the job. Majority of places only do drug tests upon hire and not any time further except if its required by the DOT.

He smokes once every few months, he said his interview had been weeks prior.

TuffLuffJimmy

Feb 26, 2009, 01:00 AM

Damn, I was gonna say that. It's a sure fire way of passing a drugs test.

unless you eat a poppy seed muffin.

EDIT:
OP, too bad you didn't do heroin, cocaine or meth. Those wouldn't show up in a drug test after two days. But you had to go and do the most evil of all drugs!

Rodimus Prime

Feb 26, 2009, 08:01 AM

People have died doing that....

Dont drink more than 2.5 litres a day.
3 litres of water can be lethal to a woman.

d.

I am going to request a link to back up that information. It screams BS to me big time since I down 3+ liters a day all the time.

garybUK

Feb 26, 2009, 08:28 AM

I am going to request a link to back up that information. It screams BS to me big time since I down 3+ liters a day all the time.

Linky : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6263029.stm

Full of Win

Feb 26, 2009, 08:30 AM

People have died doing that....

Dont drink more than 2.5 litres a day.
3 litres of water can be lethal to a woman.

Do you mean gallons and not liters?

garybUK

Feb 26, 2009, 08:32 AM

Do you mean gallons and not liters?

Probably litres as we don't use gallons in the uk!!

BigHungry04

Feb 26, 2009, 08:36 AM

I am going to request a link to back up that information. It screams BS to me big time since I down 3+ liters a day all the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

http://www.ift.org/cms/?pid=1001309

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Hyperhydration

There you go.

OllyW

Feb 26, 2009, 08:36 AM

Probably litres as we don't use gallons in the uk!!

We do use Gallons in the UK but they are not the same as US Gallons.

1 UK Gallon = 1.2 US Gallons

smooth

Feb 26, 2009, 08:40 AM

To the OP - I administer drug tests as part of my job. For the small amount that you smoked, I would not worry. I've seen people pass that in my gut are know are smoking and are truly worried they will not pass, but they do. You can pick up a home test meant for parents and test yourself first.

Off Topic - I agree that pot should be legalized and I believe there is one main reason that it is not. It has been proven that it does impair judgement and reflexes, as does alcohol. But unlike alcohol there is no test that can definitively prove whether the user is currently effected by the drug. While it can be proven that the drug was used within a certain time period, there is no breathalizer-like or blood test to determine if the user is stoned at the time of the test. Although the system makes it easy for repeat DUI offenders to keep driving (that's a whole other issue), the laws are pretty strict as to arrest drunk drivers and take them off the road at the time of the infraction. There is no system in place to keep stoned drivers off the road and until there is, marijuana will remain illegal.

iJohnHenry

Feb 26, 2009, 08:42 AM

I am going to request a link to back up that information. It screams BS to me big time since I down 3+ liters a day all the time.

A link has been given, but I can vouch drinking too much. 3 litres in not too much.

I picked up something environmental in Florida one year that caused my immune system to flush most of my electrolytes. I felt like death, and my GP, upon my return, said he was fearful of my having a seizure.

I was in the hospital at one point for 3 days.

Thereafter I was put on a litre of liquids a day (yes, all day) and many tests of my urine followed.

arkitect

Feb 26, 2009, 08:47 AM

I picked up something environmental in Florida one year that caused my immune system to flush most of my electorates.

Wow! Can they do that? Isn't that unconstitutional? Even in Florida?:eek:

:D

iBlue

Feb 26, 2009, 08:56 AM

It might have cleared your system already but if you don't want to chance it I would consider a clean up kit or substitute with someone else's pee. Put the clean pee in a double wrapped condom and tape it to your leg (keeps it at body temperature too) use a safety pin or some such sharp object which you can have inside your shirt sleeve to pierce it and drain into your sample cup. Practice it at home first. You can do it with someone watching if they are only behind you. I've known guys who have done it this way in the good old US of A where it's acceptable employer - employee behaviour to insist you give up your bodily fluids on command. (a whole other topic)

If you find that it's one of those BS tests where they actually want to watch you and what you do with your hands then you should probably pee normally and drop that cup "OOOOOPS!" and come back the next day with another plan.

Good luck.

iJohnHenry

Feb 26, 2009, 09:13 AM

Wow! Can they do that? Isn't that unconstitutional? Even in Florida?:eek:

:D

Sorry, smell pecker, and brain, not working yet.

Fixed the former, and on coffee #2 for the latter. :o

pilotError

Feb 26, 2009, 09:26 AM

It might have cleared your system already but if you don't want to chance it I would consider a clean up kit or substitute with someone else's pee.

Last time I got tested the nurse was down there checking it out. No kidding, you weren't getting by with anything. A little humiliating (was a female nurse), but I guess there was no question about cheating...

marbles

Feb 26, 2009, 09:33 AM

I'm sort of a pot head (although right now I'm on a tolerance break) but you can get physically addicted to weed. Sure the withdrawl symptoms are mild but there there. For example often times heavy smokers who quit never get very hungry for about a week.
Nope, no physical addiction to cannabis, maybe psychological but defiantly not physical

Off Topic - I agree that pot should be legalized and I believe there is one main reason that it is not. It has been proven that it does impair judgement and reflexes, as does alcohol. But unlike alcohol there is no test that can definitively prove whether the user is currently effected by the drug. While it can be proven that the drug was used within a certain time period, there is no breathalizer-like or blood test to determine if the user is stoned at the time of the test. Although the system makes it easy for repeat DUI offenders to keep driving (that's a whole other issue), the laws are pretty strict as to arrest drunk drivers and take them off the road at the time of the infraction. There is no system in place to keep stoned drivers off the road and until there is, marijuana will remain illegal.

That is a very good point regarding the driving on drugs, although I'm fairly certain that there is a test available now which involves some kind of strip/device being placed on the forehead which is supposedly able to detect if cannabis was ingested recently. Almost certain it was trialed by police in the UK. I could be wrong .

TuffLuffJimmy

Feb 26, 2009, 09:47 AM

Nope, no physical addiction to cannabis, maybe psychological but defiantly not physical.

As much as I'd love to believe that it has been proven a myth. And no, not by biased prohibitionist, but in controlled lab tests.

http://www.addictionwithdrawal.com/marijuana.htm

It is a FACT that there are physically addictive qualities to marijuana, although the withdrawal symptoms are more mild than withdrawals from caffeine.

Keebler

Feb 26, 2009, 09:59 AM

I'm debating whether to get some of my friend's pee (who is drug free) and use it for the test. I'm just worried about the temparature of his pee.

I run and sweat a lot, and have been in the sauna/steam room about 5 times in the past week.

I drink tons of water too.

bah, this is miserable.

caly, imho, trying to cheat the test in reality, is the same as trying to cheat the company interviewing you.

they want to hire you based on your credentials and the person you seem to be. by lying or cheating the test, you are showing that you're not that person.

if the drugs aren't a habit, I would try to pass the test without cheating or drinking a ton of cranberry juice etc.. and if it shows up and the employer says something, you admit that it was a 1 or 2 time thing and offer to be drug tested every few weeks or something as proof. tell them you want the job badly and you made a mistake.

if it is a habit, I suggest you drop it. It sounds like you are a 'captain awesome' to quote Chuck via Jessica so doing weed is just a blackmark on an otherwise very healthy lifestyle.

just my 2 cents.

good luck,
keebler

TuffLuffJimmy

Feb 26, 2009, 10:02 AM

caly, imho, trying to cheat the test in reality, is the same as trying to cheat the company interviewing you.

they want to hire you based on your credentials and the person you seem to be. by lying or cheating the test, you are showing that you're not that person.

if the drugs aren't a habit, I would try to pass the test without cheating or drinking a ton of cranberry juice etc.. and if it shows up and the employer says something, you admit that it was a 1 or 2 time thing and offer to be drug tested every few weeks or something as proof. tell them you want the job badly and you made a mistake.

if it is a habit, I suggest you drop it. It sounds like you are a 'captain awesome' to quote Chuck via Jessica so doing weed is just a blackmark on an otherwise very healthy lifestyle.

just my 2 cents.

good luck,
keebler

Why should he change his lifestyle for a BS rule where marijuana won't affect his job performance?

iBlue

Feb 26, 2009, 10:04 AM

caly, imho, trying to cheat the test in reality, is the same as trying to cheat the company interviewing you.

they want to hire you based on your credentials and the person you seem to be. by lying or cheating the test, you are showing that you're not that person.

if the drugs aren't a habit, I would try to pass the test without cheating or drinking a ton of cranberry juice etc.. and if it shows up and the employer says something, you admit that it was a 1 or 2 time thing and offer to be drug tested every few weeks or something as proof. tell them you want the job badly and you made a mistake.

if it is a habit, I suggest you drop it. It sounds like you are a 'captain awesome' to quote Chuck via Jessica so doing weed is just a blackmark on an otherwise very healthy lifestyle.

just my 2 cents.

good luck,
keebler
What you do on your own time doesn't have squat to do with your credentials as an employee.

marbles

Feb 26, 2009, 10:19 AM

As much as I'd love to believe that it has been proven a myth. And no, not by biased prohibitionist, but in controlled lab tests.

http://www.addictionwithdrawal.com/marijuana.htm

It is a FACT that there are physically addictive qualities to marijuana, although the withdrawal symptoms are more mild than withdrawals from caffeine.
Look, jimmy, I'm not ignorant and I'd thank you not to imply I am, maybe when you smoke weed it gives you the muchies and then you don't eat for a week when stopping because you've eaten too much prior to stopping smoking, or if you run out a return to 'reality' isn't pleasant but I wouldn't say it is addictive, it's just a stoner looking too, well, get stoned again and enjoy that feeling, which is in no way the same as say for instance a crack/smack head who will physically be floored by pain if they don't get a 'fix', I guess it all boils down to ones personal definition of addiction and withdrawal, just a thought.

But Jimmy I'm not ignorant, by any stretch of the imagination, even a chronically stoned one.

alFR

Feb 26, 2009, 10:35 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

http://www.ift.org/cms/?pid=1001309

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Hyperhydration

There you go.

None of those support the original assertion that drinking more than 2.5L a day is dangerous. For example, from the wikipedia article:

Nearly all deaths related to water intoxication in normal individuals have resulted either from water drinking contests, in which individuals attempt to consume more than 10 liters (2.2 imp gal; 2.6 U.S. gal) of water over the course of just a few minutes, or long bouts of intensive exercise during which electrolytes are not properly replenished, yet massive amounts of fluid are still consumed.

pilotError

Feb 26, 2009, 11:24 AM

I would try to pass the test without cheating or drinking a ton of cranberry juice etc.. and if it shows up and the employer says something, you admit that it was a 1 or 2 time thing and offer to be drug tested every few weeks or something as proof. tell them you want the job badly and you made a mistake.

Never admit ANYTHING. Chances are if it shows up, they just won't hire you. If they tell you something showed up, act stupid, look stupid if you have to, but NEVER admit to anything. Tell them that you were at a Party last night and there were people you didn't know smoking, could that be it?

In reality, you really have nothing to worry about... If they were really serious about the drug thing, they would take a hair sample.

Neil321

Feb 26, 2009, 01:44 PM

If they were really serious about the drug thing, they would take a hair sample.

Doesn't this go on hair lengh,so the shorter it is the better off you are ?, ie get a haircut

TuffLuffJimmy

Feb 26, 2009, 01:52 PM

Doesn't this go on hair lengh,so the shorter it is the better off you are ?, ie get a haircut

they can test any hair on your body and it'll show up a year after smoking.

yojitani

Feb 26, 2009, 02:14 PM