Any hip hop fans???? [Archive] - Page 2

AAPLaday

Dec 7, 2010, 12:11 PM

My favorite genre of music is Electronic music but i HATE "modern" hip hop the REAL hip hop is oldschool hip hop,some of my favorites:

run dmc
kwame
special ed
big daddy kane
ll kool j
slick rick
gang star
wu-tang
public enemy
nas
cypress hill
3rd bass
house of pain
rob bass
grand master flash
tribe called quest

I think i just schooled some of you...:D

Only 3rd bass out of that list that im not feeling. I have loads of old school as well as current. Theres lots of good new hiphop but unlike back in the day, you have to look harder for it now.

Slum Village, Cunninglynguists, 9th wonder, Little Brother, Zion I, Talib Kweli, Sha Stimuli, A.G, DITC, OC, Rasco, Planet Asia, RA The Rugged Man, Black Milk, Guilty Simpson, Phat Kat, Immortal Technique, Gift Of Gab, Supernatural, Blackalicious, Justus League, Apathy, Akrobatik, Mr Lif, Jedi Mind Tricks, Fashawn

Lots of good new hip hop :D

partyBoy

Dec 7, 2010, 01:24 PM

Just because it's old doesn't mean it's better than some of the newer stuff. There are 30+ years of evolution in Hip-Hop with a great mesh of differentiators and styles. The music is changing with the times and culture, we can either accept it or bemoan it. :D

Evolution is not always good,it either could go good or bad,in terms of hip hop it has turned into garbage...especially lyrics in "modern" hip hop,you are probably like 21 yrs old or something,you will learn. Hip hop is dead !

RawBert

Dec 7, 2010, 01:41 PM

^^ I totally agree.

It died when mofos started with the "grills" on their videos. I mean, c'mon! :rolleyes: Eazy would roll over in his grave if he saw some of this cRAP.

partyBoy

Dec 7, 2010, 02:02 PM

Only 3rd bass out of that list that im not feeling. Theres lots of good new hiphop but unlike back in the day, you have to look harder for it now.

3RD BASS had awesome hip hop,are you crazy?

^^ I totally agree.

It died when mofos started with the "grills" on their videos. I mean, c'mon! :rolleyes: Eazy would roll over in his grave if he saw some of this cRAP.

You my friend have good taste :cool:

AAPLaday

Dec 7, 2010, 05:03 PM

3RD BASS had awesome hip hop,are you crazy

Im not saying they didn't, i just never really felt them. Same with De La Soul. I like some tracks but not all of theirs. Loved Kool G Rap though. Could never get enough of him. Big Daddy Kane too

TwinCities Dan

Dec 7, 2010, 05:31 PM

I think i just schooled some of you...:D
Please... :rolleyes:

Just because it's old doesn't mean it's better than some of the newer stuff. There are 30+ years of evolution in Hip-Hop with a great mesh of differentiators and styles. The music is changing with the times and culture, we can either accept it or bemoan it. :D

Exactly! The scene has expanded exponentially since the early days. Artists change, evolve, and build off each other. Some good, some bad. I agree about the flashy "Gangsta Rap", all the jewels and lavish living is kinda hard to relate to for me so I don't listen to that sub-genre of Hip Hop. But there is so much more than that if you dig a little deeper.

To quote Brother Ali:
"I ain't tryin' to hear about you sippin Crystal in the Bahamas
When I'm drinkin Nestle Quik on a crowed bus full of mexicanas"

AAPLaday just provided an excellent list of who's really killin' it nowadays in the underground, I would respectfully add the Rhymesayers camp (Atmosphere, Brother Ali, Sage Francis, Eyedea (RIP), Doomtree, P.O.S., MF Doom), Def Jux, Living Legends, etc.

Hip hop's culture (Rhyming, DJin', Break dancin' and Graffiti) is bigger than blinged out whips, grills, and guns. That's all hollywood.

Hip hop is dead !
"Whoever said that must've fell and hit his head"

You're blanket statements are cliché, ridiculous, and insulting.

Take your glowsticks and pixie dust back to the rave... :rolleyes:

partyBoy

Dec 7, 2010, 10:49 PM

Take your glowsticks and pixie dust back to the rave... :rolleyes:

That is a stereo type,i dont like glowsticks and raves dont exist since the 1990's and what is pixie dust :confused:

wvuwhat

Dec 7, 2010, 10:52 PM

Another shout out to Kid Cudi.

And "partyboy" I don't think your avatar with the faux hawk and your posts on the "recent purchase" picture thread are really helping your cause here...

Liquorpuki

Dec 8, 2010, 10:48 AM

Evolution is not always good,it either could go good or bad,in terms of hip hop it has turned into garbage...especially lyrics in "modern" hip hop,you are probably like 21 yrs old or something,you will learn. Hip hop is dead !

People say that every time the music changes
- They said hiphop was dead when No Limit was all over the air and the Southern movement started
- Then they said it during the East Coast - West Coast feuds
- They said it died when Bad Boy was rappin about money
- They said it when G-Funk was all over the radio undoing what De La Soul did
- They said it was dead when Del La Soul got popular and was undoing what NWA did

I can't remember a time where hiphop actually died. Yet every few years someone will swear it's dead.

RawBert

Dec 8, 2010, 12:35 PM

AAPLaday

Dec 8, 2010, 02:05 PM

AAPLaday just provided an excellent list of who's really killin' it nowadays in the underground, I would respectfully add the Rhymesayers camp (Atmosphere, Brother Ali, Sage Francis, Eyedea (RIP), Doomtree, P.O.S., MF Doom), Def Jux, Living Legends, etc.

Yeah those are more than worthy additions. Murs is excellent and consistent. Company flow too :D Love that Company flow track on Soundbombing 2 called Patriotism

partyBoy

Dec 9, 2010, 03:41 AM

Liquorpuki

Dec 9, 2010, 06:05 PM

Obviously it hasn't died. When people say it's dead, it's because to them personally it is.
And to ME, current Hip Hop ain't sh:: to 80's and 90's rap/hip hop. But it's not dead because I listen to NWA, Dre, Snoop, Pac and Bone all the time.

I really enjoy this thread. I guess people are pretty opinionated/passionate when it comes to their Rap. I know I always have been. But I thought it was cause I'm from SC LA.

Sounds like you're a G-Funk fan... Detox is coming out soon

Personally I always find something cool that I can bump. PUTS has been my favorite group since 98. I've been listening to Living Legends since the early 90's when everything they put out was on tape. I even got some Arata songs even though I have no clue what he's saying

Mag1c22

Dec 9, 2010, 06:29 PM

i just jumped into the thread and didn't read through it all, i'm sorry if this has been brought up.

Thoughts on Wiz Khalifa?

Lupe Fiasco (his new album "Lasers" comes out in march, you can find a couple songs on the internet)?

Jay cole?

RawBert

Dec 9, 2010, 08:06 PM

Sounds like you're a G-Funk fan... Detox is coming out soon

Personally I always find something cool that I can bump. PUTS has been my favorite group since 98. I've been listening to Living Legends since the early 90's when everything they put out was on tape. I even got some Arata songs even though I have no clue what he's saying

Hell yeah.

On that note, G-Funk was conceived in the mind of Cold 187um from Above the Law. Contrary to the popular belief that Dre was the first. I couldn't believe when I read that on Wikipedia. It's great that it's acknowledged.
Wikipedia: G-Funk
There has been some debate over who should be considered the "father of G-funk." Dr. Dre is generally believed to have developed the sound, but Cold187um and KMG of Above the Law have claimed that they originated the sound. They claim that Dr. Dre did not credit the group for pioneering the style when he released “The Chronic”, his Death Row debut album. They both released records on Ruthless Records prior to this. Warren G and Snoop Dogg were with Cold187um before joining Dr. Dre and Death Row. On Snoop Dogg's Doggystyle album, Warren G and Daz Dillinger claim they produced "Ain't No Fun," even though Dre is credited as the album's sole producer.
My favorite of his produced albums are Above the Law - Legends and Kokane - Funk Upon a Rhyme. Some of the best sounding music eva.

AAPLaday

Dec 10, 2010, 04:33 AM

Real Hiphop Lord Finesse vs Percee P (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZmT3tOIn9k) ;)

Liquorpuki

Dec 16, 2010, 02:35 PM

My favorite of his produced albums are Above the Law - Legends and Kokane - Funk Upon a Rhyme. Some of the best sounding music eva.

Word. My favorite G-Funk song = Foesum's "Some Things Never Change". I bumped this so many times when I was younger, it just brings back memories

japasneezemonk

Jan 2, 2011, 07:44 PM

Evolution is not always good,it either could go good or bad,in terms of hip hop it has turned into garbage...especially lyrics in "modern" hip hop,you are probably like 21 yrs old or something,you will learn. Hip hop is dead !

I was born in 1983, so realistically I missed out on much of the early hip hop and its cultural landscape, however, I feel like that at this point I have a pretty good grip on the genre. As far as lyrics go, we'll there has been crap since the begining. Plus, really good hip hop has never been a financial success.

partyBoy

Jan 3, 2011, 06:58 PM

Plus, really good hip hop has never been a financial success.

It has never been about the money, its about the music...when will they ever learn !

japasneezemonk

Jan 3, 2011, 08:30 PM

It has never been about the money, its about the music...when will they ever learn !

I'm not sure if I'm misinterpreting your reply. Nonetheless, I would think we both agree that financial success and good management will make or break businesses. Whether it's a band with good music, a nice little restaurant with awesome food, or a tech start-up with the best idea in the world. At some point, they all need to make money, and lot's of it. Personally, I dislike the idea of working for free. Not getting paid sucks, I have to pay a mortgage, car notes, insurance, food, etc... As much as I like my job I would get fired if I wasn't making a nice chunk of change for the company I work for. In our case, good music lives and survives on the terms dictated by the capitalist society that consumes it. If a good artist can make a good living making music then it will live on, otherwise they will move on and do something else, maybe even make some crappy music.

Liquorpuki

Jan 4, 2011, 03:49 PM

It has never been about the money, its about the music...when will they ever learn !

Sure, and that's why Eric B and Rakim called their debut album "Paid in Full" and rocked dookies on the cover. Because money had nothing to do with it back then :rolleyes:

Liquorpuki

Jan 4, 2011, 03:54 PM

Plus, really good hip hop has never been a financial success.

Run DMC, Boogie Down, Native Tongues, NWA, Juice Crew, Beastie Boys, Gang Starr, Common, West Coast G-Funk, Wu Tang, Jay Z, Kanye West = all good hiphop, all financial successes

japasneezemonk

Jan 4, 2011, 05:57 PM

Run DMC, Boogie Down, Native Tongues, NWA, Juice Crew, Beastie Boys, Gang Starr, Common, West Coast G-Funk, Wu Tang, Jay Z, Kanye West = all good hiphop, all financial successes

You're right. I just meant that some really good underground acts have never been able to make it in the mainstream, e.g: Typical Cats, Second Nature, People under the stairs, etc... Then again, good music alone isn't enough. Artists usually need good marketing and promotion, branding, etc...

Liquorpuki

Jan 4, 2011, 06:53 PM

You're right. I just meant that some really good underground acts have never been able to make it in the mainstream, e.g: Typical Cats, Second Nature, People under the stairs, etc... Then again, good music alone isn't enough. Artists usually need good marketing and promotion, branding, etc...

I don't think most underground acts really care about becoming stars or aim to be in a position where they could be stars. People Under the Stairs has been my favorite group since 98 (I have every album of theirs except that American Men Vol 1). I don't think they've ever made a club banger or something easily accessible. Same with Typical Cats... Denizen Kane comes from a slam background so his part poetry/singing/rap style is too odd to get radio play.

But plenty of underground acts have blown up. The Pharcyde was rappin at the Good Life and then they dropped Bizarre Ride and blew up. Wu Tang was a bunch of underground artists pooled together. Eminem is probably the biggest underground blow up I can think of - I remember hearing him back in his Infinite days and picking up his EP from Fat Beats. Way back when Rawkus was around, Mos Def, High and Mighty, and even Mad Skills were getting radio play. Jurassic 5 was all over the radio before they split up. And the Roots were very underground before. Now everyone and their mom knows what Questlove looks like.

japasneezemonk

Jan 4, 2011, 08:05 PM

I don't think most underground acts really care about becoming stars or aim to be in a position where they could be stars. People Under the Stairs has been my favorite group since 98 (I have every album of theirs except that American Men Vol 1). I don't think they've ever made a club banger or something easily accessible. Same with Typical Cats... Denizen Kane comes from a slam background so his part poetry/singing/rap style is too odd to get radio play.

But plenty of underground acts have blown up. The Pharcyde was rappin at the Good Life and then they dropped Bizarre Ride and blew up. Wu Tang was a bunch of underground artists pooled together. Eminem is probably the biggest underground blow up I can think of - I remember hearing him back in his Infinite days and picking up his EP from Fat Beats. Way back when Rawkus was around, Mos Def, High and Mighty, and even Mad Skills were getting radio play. Jurassic 5 was all over the radio before they split up. And the Roots were very underground before. Now everyone and their mom knows what Questlove looks like.

I agree.

Abstract

Jan 5, 2011, 02:54 PM

People always say "Old skool hip-hop was better." Why? Most of it was crap, and that's no more or less true today. It has been about gangsta violence and money since the late 1980s, so does that mean all hip-hop since the late 80s is crap? Perhaps current styles and sounds don't suit everyone's taste, but that's it.

De la Soul was more bad than good.
Tribe? Same thing.
Def Jux label was ok.
Ninja Tunes label? They were good, but only if you're not expecting any rapping.
Grand Master Flash had some decent tunes, but I doubt you guys sit around thinking how great the lyrics or beat was. I couldn't sit and listen to any of their albums today, or enjoy more than a few songs.
Slick Rick? Couldn't stand any of his albums. He had some decent songs though.

Personally, I think the best rap album of 2010 has been Kanye's album. His, The Roots, and Rick Ross, but for different reasons. I have never thought Kanye was good --- production or lyrics. His new album is a masterpiece though.

Rick Ross is so extreme and full of ego that it's funny, and actually good. You're not really supposed to take the pyrics at face value. He's playing a role. It reminds me of Slim Thug's 'Already Platinum' from 4 years ago, which was good, or even some of Missy's albums.

The Roots are The Roots.

partyBoy

Jan 7, 2011, 01:33 AM

I think the best rap album of 2010 has been Kanye's album.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah...that was funny...

TwinCities Dan

Feb 7, 2011, 02:41 PM

Atmosphere drops posse cut - "Minnesota Nice"
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What better way to celebrate Atmosphere (http://rhymesayers.com/atmosphere/)'s "Welcome To Minnesota Tour" (http://rhymesayers.com/tours/atmosphere_welcome_to_minnesota_tour) than with a deep posse cut of all the rappers performing on the tour? "Minnesota Nice" features Slug, Prof (Stophouse), Mr. Gene Poole & Felipe Cuauhtli (Los Nativos). You can download the track free from Rhymesayers.com/Radio (http://rhymesayers.com/radio/) make sure you share it with your friends!

Download: "Minnesota Nice" (http://bit.ly/i99dxg)

(marc)

Feb 7, 2011, 03:52 PM

Hell yeah.

On that note, G-Funk was conceived in the mind of Cold 187um from Above the Law. Contrary to the popular belief that Dre was the first. I couldn't believe when I read that on Wikipedia. It's great that it's acknowledged.

My favorite of his produced albums are Above the Law - Legends and Kokane - Funk Upon a Rhyme. Some of the best sounding music eva.

+1. Nothing's better than G-Funk :)

TwinCities Dan

Apr 9, 2011, 04:19 PM

Just got Atmosphere (http://www.rhymesayers.com/atmosphere/)'s new album: The Family sign. It comes out next Tuesday. ;) :cool:

Fifth Element (http://www.fifthelementonline.com/) was nice enough to throw in some random goodies as well. :D

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Edit: Oh and and looks like Slug autographed this one! :cool: :D

280521

Abstract

Apr 9, 2011, 07:17 PM

Nice. I have had a few listens to Atmosphere's new album (pirated, of course). Pretty good. Nice stash, though!

Illuminated

Apr 9, 2011, 07:38 PM

The Roots Picnic at the Festival Pier in Philly on June 4th...

I should say, I obtained a ticket to this event...pretty stoked.

tktaylor1

Apr 9, 2011, 07:45 PM

johnnyturbouk

Apr 10, 2011, 11:07 AM

i used to be really big into hiphop till, approx 4 years ago - when i made the transition into dance/electro

i used to love foxybrown.. i mean her biggest fan

also like lauryn hill, lil kim, nicky minaj

nas
jay z (old stuff)
roots
mos def
roxanne shante
big daddy kane

AAPLaday

May 23, 2011, 03:36 AM

Got tickets to see Cube in my hometown in July. Not a fan of any album he released since 1993 but he used to be my favourite rapper along with Chuck D. Still wouldn't pass up this chance to see him even after his recent movies :D

TwinCities Dan

May 29, 2011, 10:19 PM

Just got home from the 4th Annual Soundset Festival (http://www.soundsetfestival.com/), it was a great show as always. Some of the artists that performed this year: Atmosphere, Big Boi of Outkast, De La Soul, Brother Ali, Doomtree, and Slaughterhouse.

Soundset is an all day festival focusing on the various aspects of hip hop: MC'ing, DJ'ing, Breakdancing, Graffiti writing, Skateboarding and even a low rider car show.

Here are a few shots I snapped this afternoon:

Atmosphere rockin' the main stage
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B-Boy competition
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Ramp ridin'
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Graff writin'
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Low-riders
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supermac96

Jun 4, 2011, 05:42 PM

Anybody here like Jay Rock? Most of my Hip-hop/Rap section on my itunes consists of Jay Rock, Wiz Khalifa, and Lil Wayne. As you have noticed I haven't expanded my library past 2000. I plan on doing that someday when I have more time.

i like the song all my life in the ghetto by him and wayne. i hate wiz khalifa and think he is a horrible rapper and wayne is aaa ok i guess but im really not diggin his new stuff. my fav would have to be lupe fiasco or chiddy bang

supermac96

Jun 4, 2011, 05:42 PM

supermac96

Jun 4, 2011, 05:45 PM

Another shout out to Kid Cudi.

And "partyboy" I don't think your avatar with the faux hawk and your posts on the "recent purchase" picture thread are really helping your cause here...

ya cudis pretty dope but you can't really classify most of his music as rap. my favorite song by him is either the prayer or embrace the martian. by the way ihiphopmusic.com is a great site for new unreleased hip hop.

AAPLaday

Sep 6, 2011, 06:45 AM

Going to see Public Enemy tomorrow. Cant wait! Not seen them in 10 years!

boss.king

Sep 6, 2011, 08:23 AM

Big hip hop fan here. I listen mainly to mainstream stuff, but I do try get a little bit of everything. I mostly listen to Lil Wayne (I know lots of people hate him, but I enjoy his music, that's all I care about), Game, Mac Miller, Common, J Cole, Eminem, and Biggie.

Don't really have much to add to the thread, just sharing :)

AAPLaday

Sep 8, 2011, 04:36 AM

Public Enemy killed it! Fear of a Black Planet is one of my all time favourite albums and hearing it all live last night was awesome! Good to see Flav back doing what he does best and leaving reality TV others :p

Big hip hop fan here. I listen mainly to mainstream stuff, but I do try get a little bit of everything. I mostly listen to Lil Wayne (I know lots of people hate him, but I enjoy his music, that's all I care about), Game, Mac Miller, Common, J Cole, Eminem, and Biggie.

Don't really have much to add to the thread, just sharing :)

My ex loved Lil Wayne so i know most of his work. I like the A Milli track. I have a version of it with MF DOOM freestyling over it :)

andalusia

Sep 8, 2011, 01:50 PM

My ex loved Lil Wayne so i know most of his work. I like the A Milli track. I have a version of it with MF DOOM freestyling over it :)

I like MF Doom although wasn't a fan of his MM Food album at all, thought it was really poor stuff.

AAPLaday

Sep 22, 2011, 01:35 PM

I like MF Doom although wasn't a fan of his MM Food album at all, thought it was really poor stuff.

Wasn't as good as i was hoping but still had some good tracks on it :)

TwinCities Dan

Feb 17, 2012, 05:27 PM

Rhymesayers just released the new Brother Ali EP for free (http://www.rhymesayers.com/brotherali)! I don't know how long the link will be active. :cool:

nec207

Feb 19, 2012, 01:37 AM

Anyone know of some good female hip hop artists?

Also what hip hop you like better the new hip hop or old hip hop.

AAPLaday

Feb 19, 2012, 10:35 AM

Rhymesayers just released the new Brother Ali EP for free (http://www.rhymesayers.com/brotherali)! I don't know how long the link will be active. :cool:

Seems hes in my town in May, might pop along and check him out live.

Anyone know of some good female hip hop artists?

Also what hip hop you like better the new hip hop or old hip hop.

Jean Grae, Bahamadia are the only current ones i know. MC Lyte was the best female rapper of all time IMO.

(marc)

Feb 19, 2012, 11:05 AM

Anyone know of some good female hip hop artists?

Also what hip hop you like better the new hip hop or old hip hop.

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Feb 19, 2012, 11:59 AM

I usually stick with early to mid-90s hip-hop, those were the best years imo.

TwinCities Dan

Feb 19, 2012, 12:11 PM

Seems hes in my town in May, might pop along and check him out live.

DO IT! You will not be disappointed, this dude bleed's hip hop. His written shiz is incredible but he really shines freestylin'. :cool:

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AAPLaday

Feb 20, 2012, 02:41 AM

DO IT! You will not be disappointed, this dude bleed's hip hop. His written shiz is incredible but he really shines freestylin'. :cool:

YouTube: video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=n1wTb6F7swU)

Cheers for the vid. 9 minutes of awesomeness! Yeah will try and get tickets. I often miss a lot of acts due to lack of promotion. Missed Black Milk this way. Only found Brother Ali cause was looking for tickets for something else