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diamond geezer
Mar 30, 2004, 07:50 PM
link (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2002/06/03/hsorensen.DTL)

On July 26, 2001, cbsnews.com reported that John Ashcroft had stopped flying on commercial airlines.

Ashcroft used to fly commercial, just as Janet Reno did. So why, two months before Sept. 11, did he start taking chartered government planes?

CBS News correspondent Jim Stewart asked the Justice Department.

Because of a "threat assessment" by the FBI, he was told. But "neither the FBI nor the Justice Department ... would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it," CBS News reported.

The FBI did advise Ashcroft to stay off commercial aircraft. The rest of us just had to take our chances.

The FBI obviously knew something was in the wind. Why else would it have Ashcroft use a $1,600-plus per hour G-3 Gulfstream when he could have flown commercial, as he always did before, for a fraction of the cost?

Ashcroft demonstrated an amazing lack of curiosity when asked if he knew anything about the threat. "Frankly, I don't," he told reporters.

So our nation's chief law enforcement officer was told that flying commercial was hazardous to his health, and yet he appeared not to care what the threat was, who made it, how, or why?

Note that it was the FBI that warned Ashcroft before Sept. 11. That's the same FBI now claiming it didn't "connect the dots" before Sept. 11.

Had we in the press been on our toes, we might have realized that if flying commercial posed a threat to John Ashcroft, it also posed a threat to the population at large.

But the CBSNews.com story was largely ignored. CBS ran it once, briefly. A number of CBS affiliates repeated the story, even more briefly. That was it. As near as I can tell, no other major news outlet ran the story of a danger to commercial air travel so severe that our attorney general was told to stay away from it.



zimv20
Mar 30, 2004, 08:05 PM
for those who missed it: the original CBS article (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml)

miloblithe
Mar 30, 2004, 08:14 PM
It's a grand conspiracy theory to believe in, but how hard is it to believe that the Bush administration heard that the attacks might come, figured that they were unlikely but that even if they did come they could gain free license to do whatever they want afterwards in the name of retaliation, and so did nothing (or little) to prevent them?

Look at the 1999 apartment bombings in Russia that kicked off the second war against Chechnya.

zimv20
Mar 30, 2004, 08:30 PM
It's a grand conspiracy theory to believe in, but how hard is it to believe that the Bush administration heard that the attacks might come, figured that they were unlikely but that even if they did come they could gain free license to do whatever they want afterwards in the name of retaliation, and so did nothing (or little) to prevent them?

there is nothing i put past this administration

diamond geezer
Mar 30, 2004, 08:32 PM
Look at the 1999 apartment bombings in Russia that kicked off the second war against Chechnya.

Didn't they actually catch some KGB guys planting a bomb, but were told that it was a training exercise?

I think Putin is a very nasty piece of work indeed, and the whole government as a whole, completely corrupt.

miloblithe
Mar 30, 2004, 08:36 PM
Didn't they actually catch some KGB guys planting a bomb, but were told that it was a training exercise?

I think Putin is a very nasty piece of work indeed, and the whole government as a whole, completely corrupt.

I read the same thing about the KGB guys.

On the other hand (and I realize oil prices are high), the economy in Russia is growing, the country is more stable, and people are more optimistic about the future. I'm not saying I like the guy though. After all, his government did acuse me of being a spy and kick me out. Oops. I've said too much already . . .

diamond geezer
Mar 30, 2004, 08:50 PM
I read the same thing about the KGB guys.

On the other hand (and I realize oil prices are high), the economy in Russia is growing, the country is more stable, and people are more optimistic about the future. ... Oops. I've said too much already . . .

So the end justifies the means...... Mr Bond.

:-)

Sun Baked
Mar 30, 2004, 08:59 PM
Yes, stay off planes they may hijack or bomb another plane, try to bomb an airpot, etc...

Definitely proves they knew all about the attack on the White House, Pentagon, and World Trade Center -- and nothing about the old methods terrorists have traditionally used. :rolleyes:

zimv20
Mar 31, 2004, 01:04 PM
fwiw - i was listening to the premier broadcast of al franken's new radio show. their first guest was former senator bob kerry, who's on the 9/11 commission. he was asked about the ashcroft-no-commercial-flying allegation. kerry said they've looked into it and have found no evidence that it actually happened.