WWDC Scheduled for Second Week of June? [Archive]

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Mar 6, 2009, 03:22 PM

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David Zeiler of The Baltimore Sun points out (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/business/appleaday/blog/2009/03/prediction_snow_leopard_releas.html) that the event schedule (http://www.moscone.com/site/do/event/list?nav.type=0&nav.filter=0905&nav.base=0903) for the Moscone Center in San Francisco is listing a "Corporate Meeting" running from June 6th through June 12th in Moscone West and speculates that this event is Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) 2009.

While Apple has historically varied the dates of WWDC from as early as May to as late as August, WWDC has been held on the second full work week of June each of the past two years. Several days ago, MacDailyNews pointed to (http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/apples_wwdc_09_to_be_held_in_may/) a similar "Corporate Meeting" scheduled for May 16th through May 22nd and speculated that it may represent WWDC, but that event is no longer appearing on the Moscone Center's calendar.

Zeiler speculates that Mac OS X Snow Leopard will be released at WWDC. This would certainly not be a surprise, as Apple announced (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/09/mac-os-x-snow-leopard-to-focus-on-performance-quality/) at last year's WWDC that Snow Leopard would ship in "about a year".

As additional evidence for a Snow Leopard release at that time, Zeiler points to several listings on Amazon.com for Snow Leopard-related books scheduled for release from mid-June through July. In our experience, however, neither Amazon nor publishers have any particular advance notice about software release dates, and the publication dates for their related books are merely based on "best guesses".

Article Link: WWDC Scheduled for Second Week of June? (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/06/wwdc-scheduled-for-second-week-of-june/)

PurrBall

Mar 6, 2009, 03:25 PM

WWDC also seems to be the perfect time to ship SL because of all the developer goodies the new technology brings. Can't wait!

macaco74

Mar 6, 2009, 03:26 PM

looking forward to it!

Mintin8

Mar 6, 2009, 03:26 PM

Wow this should be a good one! I can't wait to see what Apple has got in store for us! Lets hope these months pass fast!

Shaved Kitty

Mar 6, 2009, 03:27 PM

Not Interested!!!

Sky Blue

Mar 6, 2009, 03:28 PM

I think an announcement with the release at the end of the month seems more plausible.

GGGUUUYYY

Mar 6, 2009, 03:28 PM

APPLE :mad:

mike1123

Mar 6, 2009, 03:30 PM

Interesting. The return of Steve Jobs?

NT1440

Mar 6, 2009, 03:30 PM

Not Interested!!!

APPLE :mad:

??
Whats with the hostility?

boxlight

Mar 6, 2009, 03:30 PM

carfac

Mar 6, 2009, 03:30 PM

If SL is it, it looks to be a rather dull show.

Yawn.

Solemony

Mar 6, 2009, 03:31 PM

Can't wait! Hopes Snow Leopard is out at that time :D!

carfac

Mar 6, 2009, 03:32 PM

Interesting. The return of Steve Jobs?

Are you kidding???? Nothing against Steve (and I wish him the best).... but he is NOT coming back.

Eric S.

Mar 6, 2009, 03:33 PM

Makes sense, and everything has been pointing to a June release for Snow Leopard.

Mintin8

Mar 6, 2009, 03:34 PM

@ Boxlight : Yeah i agree it's great apple are taking the time to develop this properly! I can't wait to see the performance boosts.

@ Carfac : I can almost guarantee SL won't be it. Imagine after the keynote on SL they say " Theres just one more thing" and there steve jobs is standing with a new iPhone or Notebook! Awesome!

JasonUKBristol

Mar 6, 2009, 03:35 PM

Noooo. I was hoping that snop leopard was going to be released in the next week or two so I could buy a new mac pro with it installed and save some money and I hope steve does come back. You seem so certain

tiguk

Mar 6, 2009, 03:36 PM

If SL really is 'just' concentrating on speed, there's not much to shout about at a conference. Well, not for a whole keynote anyway.

As with last year, this will be more about the iPhone won't it?

carfac

Mar 6, 2009, 03:36 PM

@ Carfac : I can almost guarantee SL won't be it. Imagine after the keynote on SL they say " Theres just one more thing" and there steve jobs is standing with a new iPhone or Notebook! Awesome!

Yeah. After I posted, I remembered we'll see a new iPhone about then. I do not hold out much hope for something substantially better, just incremental, but we can hope! I mean, if after 2 years we still do not have cut and paste....

NT1440

Mar 6, 2009, 03:37 PM

If SL really is 'just' concentrating on speed, there's not much to shout about at a conference. Well, not for a whole keynote anyway.

As with last year, this will be more about the iPhone won't it?

The point of the conference isnt to actually release things, apple just happens to from time to time. It is FIRST and FOREMOST a place where developers get some good ole fashion learnin' straight from apple.

Full of Win

Mar 6, 2009, 03:38 PM

I expect them to use the show to announce 10.6 will ship in January 2010. :eek:

amac4me

Mar 6, 2009, 03:38 PM

Note that the book publishers information on Amazon wasn't a reliable predictor for Leopard's release as they initially showed that the books would be released in May/June.

IMPMAC

Mar 6, 2009, 03:39 PM

I dont want SL to come out. The longer it takes, the better the OS will be. But if they do come out of it. Its going to be so great

Full of Win

Mar 6, 2009, 03:39 PM

If SL is it, it looks to be a rather dull show.

Yawn.
With the Pre coming out around this time...expect a new iPhone from Apple.

Eric S.

Mar 6, 2009, 03:43 PM

Noooo. I was hoping that snop leopard was going to be released in the next week or two so I could buy a new mac pro with it installed and save some money

You'd be better off to get Leopard now and upgrade to SL when it is really stable.

and I hope steve does come back. You seem so certain

Nobody knows for certain at this point.

mac.andy

Mar 6, 2009, 03:43 PM

Perfect timing :cool: as I'm looking to order a new iMac on July 1. So it's likely to ship with SL :apple: :apple: :apple: :)

Hope that Steve Jobs returns during WWDC, I think he will. But I got this thought that he will also use the WWDC to announce he's leaving Apple.

Seamaster

Mar 6, 2009, 03:44 PM

New iPhone = inevitable.

That's right around the time all the first American iPhone punters will be coming off their contracts.

Lesser Evets

Mar 6, 2009, 03:46 PM

Are you kidding???? Nothing against Steve (and I wish him the best).... but he is NOT coming back.

How do all these people know the future???
Can someone PLEASE give me the winner of the next triple crown??
I could use some posh flash cash.

adomanico18

Mar 6, 2009, 03:47 PM

I thought it very ballsy and innovative for Apple to spend a year of development on performance and not features (ie, Leopard to Snow Leopard).

I'd really like to see more companies focus on such things, and I'd really like to reward Apple for their efforts by upgrading. However, if I'm being totally honest, I have to say that Leopard runs awesome on my MacBook. It will be hard to justify $150 (CAD) upgrade when everything is already running great.

How, it wouldn't take much of a feature to make me upgrade but I think they have to give me something more that just a performance hike. Even just a sexy new look and feel would probably do the trick for me.

I'm running the developer build on my developer build and the performance increase is insane. Just wait until you try iy you will want to spend the 150.

Unspeaked

Mar 6, 2009, 03:52 PM

I posted (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=662927) this earlier today...

( Which reminds me - how come people always ignore my Apple, Industry and Internet Discussion posts but when the same story goes Page One it suddenly gets a zillion comments? Geez :rolleyes: )

Mal

Mar 6, 2009, 03:52 PM

If SL really is 'just' concentrating on speed, there's not much to shout about at a conference. Well, not for a whole keynote anyway.

As with last year, this will be more about the iPhone won't it?

Snow Leopard isn't "just" about speed, though that's very important, but the fact is, the people attending WWDC care a great deal about the stuff in SL that average folk this us wouldn't understand or care about, so it's a very appropriate place to talk about all of those types of intricate details.

jW

kastenbrust

Mar 6, 2009, 03:54 PM

Theres not way the book rumor is true, if authors are writing books basked on a fairly terrible beta i'd hate the see the final result of their work. Even basic things like CS4 barely run on the current SL beta, and Flash CS4 simply isn't happening, so i cant wait to see those "books" :D

hudsonCrossing

Mar 6, 2009, 03:55 PM

first SJs return
second SLs release
third new iPhone
fourth SJs retirement....with SL and new iPhone as our parting gift.

shanmugam

Mar 6, 2009, 03:57 PM

what is the chance of FREE upgrade of Snow Leopard for Leopard Users? :D

(yeah i know i know APPLE and FREE does not go together) :cool:

If it is mainly performance improvement and bug fixes why not?

I also wonder how the Mac Box Set works out with Snow Leopard is due in months time :confused:

NT1440

Mar 6, 2009, 03:59 PM

Why do so many people think Steve is going to retire here?:confused:

Especially based on no evidence?

Unspeaked

Mar 6, 2009, 03:59 PM

Eric S.

Mar 6, 2009, 04:04 PM

what is the chance of FREE upgrade of Snow Leopard for Leopard Users? :D

(yeah i know i know APPLE and FREE does not go together) :cool:

You just answered your question.

If it is mainly performance improvement and bug fixes why not?

If you don't think performance inmprovement and bug fixes are worth paying for, don't spend the money.

ForLovexOrMoney

Mar 6, 2009, 04:07 PM

I just want new 30" ACD's!!!
Is that too much to ask for?

NT1440

Mar 6, 2009, 04:07 PM

I just want new 30" ACD's!!!
Is that too much to ask for?

Ask that after the 24th.:p

powers74

Mar 6, 2009, 04:14 PM

A week long corporate meeting. That's a good one.

Sky Blue

Mar 6, 2009, 04:18 PM

I also wonder how the Mac Box Set works out with Snow Leopard is due in months time :confused:

They sell it to PPC users.

powers74

Mar 6, 2009, 04:18 PM

Why do so many people think Steve is going to retire here?:confused:

Especially based on no evidence?

Especially since Steve does nothing for three weeks before a keynote besides rehears, meaning he would have to return to work over a month early.

Makes no sense people.

Edit - Oops! I read return! Sorry!

NT1440

Mar 6, 2009, 04:20 PM

I also wonder how the Mac Box Set works out with Snow Leopard is due in months time :confused:

Once SL comes out it will probably ship with...SL?

That would be the most logical answer

davidbeq

Mar 6, 2009, 04:24 PM

Chill out folks, we all may be getting a bit ahead of oursleves here. Four other dates ranges are just as likely. June 15 - 19, July 20 - 24, August 17 - 21, August 24 - 28 as per this information:

WWDC 2009 to occur June 6-12? - Don't count on it as other weeks are just as likely in June, July, or August (http://switchtoamac.com/site/wwdc-to-occur-june-612-dont-count-on-it-as-other-weeks-are-just-as-likely-in-june-july-or-august.html)

So there are actually 5 different weeks as of this point during which Apple could be conducting WWDC.

NT1440

Mar 6, 2009, 04:27 PM

powers74

Mar 6, 2009, 04:32 PM

jaw04005

Mar 6, 2009, 04:32 PM

Apple will want to announce the third version of the iPhone before June 29th, as that's when the first batch of iPhone owners' two-year contracts with AT&T run out.

Based on what Apple's directors have said at the shareholder's meeting, I fully expect Steve Jobs to return for the event (provided it's held the dates mentioned). Whether or not he's up to handling the keynote is another story. Otherwise, that story will once again dominate the headlines overshadowing any product announcements.

I expect a public Snow Leopard demo, new iPhone and something new. I still don't expect Snow Leopard to ship until after Windows 7, my money is on October.

The Samurai

Mar 6, 2009, 04:33 PM

Looking forward to it. Can't see myself upgrading to Snow Leopard as Leopard already runs a treat for me. That said, i'll end up buying it :D

Eidorian

Mar 6, 2009, 04:34 PM

Apple might actually get me a purchase something from them this year with Snow Leopard.

My router just started working properly again. :D

Sky Blue

Mar 6, 2009, 04:34 PM

Once SL comes out it will probably ship with...SL?

That would be the most logical answer

It really wouldn't. Why give people a discount on brand new software?

MrCrowbar

Mar 6, 2009, 04:35 PM

Once SL comes out it will probably ship with...SL?

That would be the most logical answer

During transition to a new OS, Apple likes to slip in the new OS Disk inside the stocked Mac boxes with a small manual on how to install it.

And if you bought your Mac right after the new OS release date and it wasn't included with your Mac, I guess you can get if for free at any Apple store provided you show them the receipt and hand in the old disc. Be aware the exchange disc will only work on your hardware model, not any mac. So you can't upgrade your entire Mac household just like that.

I'm planning to get a new high end 13" unibody Macbook when SL is out. Hopefully the hardware will get a little upgrade at that time so I have a Revision B model, a bit better specs and longer usability in the long run. Macs have great resale value. Selling my 3 year old black Macbook should give me about 500-600 Euros (it's in great condition since most parts have been recently replaced under warranty, even the display and battery). My Macbook is actually performing great, but I don't want to spend 150 Euros just for the software upgrade if I can get a serious hardware upgrade for like 400 bucks more which will last about another 3 years.

Anyway, Apple events for developers are awesome, they really care for their third party devs because it's them who make all those nice apps that make OSX even more desirable and more compatible with the PC world.

NT1440

Mar 6, 2009, 04:39 PM

It really wouldn't. Why give people a discount on brand new software?

Oh sorry my mistake. I meant to say that the bundle will now have SL, but not at a discounted price.

My mistake.

fleshman03

Mar 6, 2009, 04:47 PM

Maybe there will be two (2) events.

iPhone / WWDC (w/ SL)

Edit - NVM. One event was taken down.

MacFly123

Mar 6, 2009, 04:49 PM

queshy

Mar 6, 2009, 04:50 PM

Snow leopard at WWDC? No. A potential release date? Maybe.

My prediction: an announcement for a "October" release date for SL that will get pushed back til sometime in 2010. :(

I'd love to see the return of SJ At WWDC

CSilver

Mar 6, 2009, 04:53 PM

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: No Ipod Touch 2G update :C:C:C:C:C

Come on!! please update it before April!!!

Cakester

Mar 6, 2009, 04:56 PM

It makes great sense WWDC + iPhone + the return of a "plump" Jobs:D

Ademius

Mar 6, 2009, 05:51 PM

Looking forward to SL. If it's released in june, I will buy a 13" unibody macbook, if it's not I will probably wait for the fall laptop revision. Does apple have an upgrade policy for purchases made less than X amount of time before the release? (i.e. like MS')

I'm not upgrading to the new iphone, but 3.0 (likely?) will be great.
Cinema displays are long due for an update as well

motorious1

Mar 6, 2009, 05:54 PM

Here is my prediction for WWDC 09' in June: Steve Jobs returns, but makes his appearance using the first ichat video via the new iphone! Steve takes the stage and showcases Snow Leopard along with iphone 3.0!

plumbingandtech

Mar 6, 2009, 05:56 PM

BTW

Mar 6, 2009, 05:56 PM

Maybe the general public will finally get a good look at what's coming in Snow Leopard. I couldn't believe nothing was said at MacWorld.

I don't really have any complaints with Leopard but what features I have seen with Snow Leopard make me interested. I'm always interested in optimized OSes and that's what's touted for SL.

benbridle38

Mar 6, 2009, 06:01 PM

I'm running the developer build on my developer build and the performance increase is insane. Just wait until you try iy you will want to spend the 150.

Will snow leopard bring performance/speed upgrades and multi-core support for the 32 bit core duo processors? as in those on the 1st gen intel macs?

Eric S.

Mar 6, 2009, 06:10 PM

Will snow leopard bring performance/speed upgrades and multi-core support for the 32 bit core duo processors? as in those on the 1st gen intel macs?

Is it going to run on Core Duo systems? Probably yes. Are you going to see performance gains? Probably no. Real performance gains will be seen on 64-bit systems, especially those with 4 or 8 or more cores.

tirerim

Mar 6, 2009, 06:13 PM

I thought it very ballsy and innovative for Apple to spend a year of development on performance and not features (ie, Leopard to Snow Leopard).

I'd really like to see more companies focus on such things, and I'd really like to reward Apple for their efforts by upgrading. However, if I'm being totally honest, I have to say that Leopard runs awesome on my MacBook. It will be hard to justify $150 (CAD) upgrade when everything is already running great.

How, it wouldn't take much of a feature to make me upgrade but I think they have to give me something more that just a performance hike. Even just a sexy new look and feel would probably do the trick for me.

I might pay for a good performance hike... except I'm still only on PPC, and I'm not going to pay for an entirely new computer. I'll probably end up skipping Snow Leopard entirely, and getting new hardware after 10.7 comes out (around the beginning of 2011, perhaps). Unless Apple come out with a netbook-type thing before then (yes, I want something lighter than an Air), that might get me to buy new hardware.

Quillz

Mar 6, 2009, 06:17 PM

I really hope Snow Leopard gets released no later than WWDC. It will be the most exciting product release by Apple in 2009, as far as I'm concerned.

mark88

Mar 6, 2009, 06:17 PM

I'm going on the basis of recent events and not getting excited about this one at all....

faffoo

Mar 6, 2009, 06:19 PM

One of my teachers at school was telling me that his girlfriend works for a company who make phone camera parts. Apparently, they have had an orde from apple for millions of parts for the end of may

NT1440

Mar 6, 2009, 06:20 PM

One of my teachers at school was telling me that his girlfriend works for a company who make phone camera parts. Apparently, they have had an orde from apple for millions of parts for the end of may

and no more specific info.

NYCMacFan

Mar 6, 2009, 06:20 PM

I dont want SL to come out. The longer it takes, the better the OS will be. But if they do come out of it. Its going to be so great

How will I, as an ordinary user, benefit is my question?

I'm not negative on SL at all of course. Just want to know how it matters to the average Mac user given the current OS seems very nice to me...

faffoo

Mar 6, 2009, 06:23 PM

and no more specific info.

He had one there as he is a physics teacher and lies lenses etc. It was a 3MP camera and that is all he would tell me

Rocketman

Mar 6, 2009, 06:32 PM

The Apple release pace is rapid. Not just this year but year after year. Those guys at Cupertino work their [expletive] off!

We should open a hot dog stand in front of the campus front door, then listen VERY carefully to the stand chat. :D

Rocketman

NT1440

Mar 6, 2009, 06:33 PM

The Apple release pace is rapid.

Get ready to have your head torn off.....

designgeek

Mar 6, 2009, 07:00 PM

I thought it very ballsy and innovative for Apple to spend a year of development on performance and not features (ie, Leopard to Snow Leopard).

Yeah like if Microsoft actually tried instead of spewing a bunch of incoherent crap like usual. I remember when they pushed vista back for "quality control purposes..." If that was the reason we would never get anything from them.

iMacmatician

Mar 6, 2009, 07:09 PM

I think an announcement with the release at the end of the month seems more plausible.I think this too.

We could see:

New Cinema Displays
Snow Leopard preview
iPhone 3.0
Steve Jobs

Are you kidding???? Nothing against Steve (and I wish him the best).... but he is NOT coming back.Link? Source? Evidence?

michael.lauden

Mar 6, 2009, 07:26 PM

i predict that rumors will flare about ideas that would never happen!!!

and then the big event... and all Apple will release is

iLife: June: 2009

=MuLti-CeLL=

Mar 6, 2009, 07:47 PM

Apple will want to announce the third version of the iPhone before June 29th, as that's when the first batch of iPhone owners' two-year contracts with AT&T run out.

This theory is turning a little stale don't you think?

I thought the same for a while but out and about, mostly all I see is iPhone 3G's and the occasional V.1 iPhone.

I'm thinking there aren't as many V.1 owners as some people here think. Most upgraded from the first one and anyone buying since last July has a 3G iPhone unless they snagged a first gen offline or something.

But anyways, I'm really hoping for a new iPhone to be announced at WWDC! Can't wait! :D

casik

Mar 6, 2009, 08:01 PM

i hope we will see an iPhone update....

Full of Win

Mar 6, 2009, 08:07 PM

I expect a public Snow Leopard demo, new iPhone and something new. I still don't expect Snow Leopard to ship until after Windows 7, my money is on October.

I thought Windows 7 was going to be released in 2010

http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207100040

HONDAxACURA

Mar 6, 2009, 09:18 PM

COME ON APPLE! I want that Snow Leopard!!!!

jaw04005

Mar 6, 2009, 09:19 PM

I thought Windows 7 was going to be released in 2010

http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207100040

Nope. Microsoft continues to want Windows 7's release date to be a surprise, but by all accounts it's expected to RTM by August so that it can be pre-installed on OEM machines for this holiday season.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10162609-56.html

How will I, as an ordinary user, benefit is my question?

We don't know yet. Everything that's been reported is speculation or leaks from the closed developer beta. Apple has not announced any specifics on Snow Leopard other than what's on this page: http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/.

I'm sure they'll be glad to wow us at WWDC with everything we'll be missing if we don't upgrade.

Personally, I think Apple's marketing department has its job cut out for them if they want the Mac user base to upgrade in masses to Snow Leopard. It's hard to sell "No New Features" especially considering the enormous feature checklists Apple has put out in the past regarding 10.x updates.

Traditionally, Mac users have adopted the latest operating system release rather quickly compared to other install bases. Snow Leopard may be the first Mac OS X release to buck that trend. If it truly drops PowerPC support (and it should, IMO) and possibly Core Duo support (rumored, but unfounded), the upgrade base will be limited to late 2006 and up model Macs.

Not to mention, if Snow Leopard does turn out to be more of a service pack release than a major release — its successfulness in terms of install base may be hampered even more. We'll just have to wait and see.

Doctor Q

Mar 6, 2009, 09:32 PM

We could see: New Cinema Displays
I hope we don't have to wait that long. The MR Buyer's Guide already says "Don't Buy - Updates soon" based on the schedule of previous releases. I wonder what would prevent Apple from having new displays ready well before June.

Bubba Satori

Mar 6, 2009, 10:57 PM

It really wouldn't. Why give people a discount on brand new software?

Leopard Service Pack One.

Jhanson09

Mar 6, 2009, 10:59 PM

i thought they said jobs was out till the end of june..... or is that considered close enough?

twoodcc

Mar 6, 2009, 11:29 PM

it makes sense to me that WWDC would be this June. can't wait for it and snow leopard!

8CoreWhore

Mar 6, 2009, 11:52 PM

bible

shanmugam

Mar 6, 2009, 11:54 PM

Leopard Service Pack One.

you mean bug fixes and performance improvements should be called SP1? and not new OS X and charge $129 that? :cool:

macfan881

Mar 7, 2009, 12:14 AM

My Gueeses for WWDC this year?
Jobs Returns
Snow Leopard
3rd Gen Iphone one more thing Iphone comes to Verizon Next year! :)
Iphone 3.0 FW Copy/paste MMS Push service for apps Finally
one more thing new Cinemay Display Refresh 25 30 40 inch display isight built in

lostngone

Mar 7, 2009, 12:16 AM

I just booked my hotel for that week. I am sick of waiting less then 24 hours after the official announcement to make my reservations to find all the good hotels like the St. Regis, InterContinental and W to be all booked for some or all of the conference .

jackjason

Mar 7, 2009, 12:36 AM

june one might be
may one belongs to google.

job won't be back..

I knew it

but sl will be shown on June 8

I think this too.

We could see:

New Cinema Displays
Snow Leopard preview
iPhone 3.0
Steve Jobs

Link? Source? Evidence?

He is not coming back.

MacsBestFriend

Mar 7, 2009, 12:45 AM

Hey everyone- great to be back on MR! :)

My birthday is in two weeks and I gave a strong sales pitch to my mom to switch from Verizon to AT&Pee (Her one-line contract is 40 bucks, plus the 30 for the data plan on an Blackberry, which she wants, is equivalent to the base contract price of an iPhone. *Hint: this is great for other highschoolers, like me, wanting iPhones*).

Now, I've been reading about the possible Verizon iPhone at WWDC and was wondering-
1. Should I not bother waiting and get an iPhone (If possible) or iPod touch (more likely)
2. Should I wait until the conference and go from there

If I get an iPod Touch now, I will have a second when I buy my new MacBook this summer, with my student discount. I have an iPod now if I have to wait I will, it's just awesome to watch everyone on the bus playing with theirs- I wasn't even considering an iPhone until playing with one just last week, lol

Help muchly appreciated! :)

LiveForever

Mar 7, 2009, 01:11 AM

Surely they have to announce a new iphone.

I (and I suspect most people) just can't get excited about a new big cat named OS release.

iMaggot

Mar 7, 2009, 01:15 AM

Can't wait for SL . Oh and Apple, please optimize Flash player, because Flash player is a Pig!!!!!!!!.

Bubba Satori

Mar 7, 2009, 01:25 AM

you mean bug fixes and performance improvements should be called SP1? and not new OS X and charge $129 that? :cool:

It remains to be seen. I aplaud Apple's stability, speed and refinement focus in SL. I felt the same way about Vista SP1 and XP SP2. :apple:

Jono Hayes

Mar 7, 2009, 02:04 AM

Can't wait for SL . Oh and Apple, please optimize Flash player, because Flash player is a Pig!!!!!!!!.

that would be the greatest feature in Snow Leopard if Apple optimize Flash player

Winni

Mar 7, 2009, 03:18 AM

ipoppy

Mar 7, 2009, 03:27 AM

Hopefully iPhone 3.0 will be announced as well. Fingers crossed.:D:D:D

iMacmatician

Mar 7, 2009, 05:57 AM

He is not coming back.Links? Source? Evidence? Reasons?

lftrghtparadigm

Mar 7, 2009, 07:44 AM

I expect them to use the show to announce 10.6 will ship in January 2010. :eek:

first realistic post in this thread

Links? Source? Evidence? Reasons?
The guy stepped down because he's sick. That's not something you typically do as a CEO with plans to come back. Children might buy into the line, "leave of absence", but that's who its for. It comforts those who buy it. Then when June comes and Apple is moving steadily forward with Cook at the helm, the children will then say, "He'll be back its just a matter of time."

There is actually no reason to think that he will return, unless its just wishful thinking.

Lesser Evets

Mar 7, 2009, 08:30 AM

So....

You have no sources, evidence, links, or tangible reasons?

Nice.

lftrghtparadigm

Mar 7, 2009, 08:33 AM

Only that it's Adobe's job to optimize Flash Player...

I doubt that Snow Leopard will be shown on WWDC, I think it will be released earlier than that.

And who knows, maybe that March 24 even will be the launch event and MAYBE Apple will also release the Desktop Set for regular PCs.

Oh, and personally, I also do not believe that Steve Jobs will return to Apple.

If there is any truth to the March 24th event, then with the latest seed of Snow Leopard I'd almost be inclined to agree with you on this ^.

Snow Leopard is either almost ready, or no where near ready.

If they could release it this Month, that would be very exciting for us Devs as we'd have 2 months to play with it until WWDC. Then at WWDC hopefully they introduce a new iPhone situation, with very new hardware elements that enabled a host of new options within the SDK.

iMacmatician

Mar 7, 2009, 08:34 AM

So....

You have no sources, evidence, links, or tangible reasons?

Nice.Precisely. Happens with other topics too. People post some claim as if it were fact with no evidence to back it up. Most of the time they're wrong.

Tallest Skil

Mar 7, 2009, 08:42 AM

If he wasn't coming back, the shareholders have a legal right to know. The board would be sued.

iMacmatician

Mar 7, 2009, 08:52 AM

I (and most others) stick to what Apple has said (which is all we know so far) until enough evidence is accumulated otherwise.

jameswhe03

Mar 7, 2009, 09:39 AM

i don't know why people aren't mentioning upgrades for macbooks and macbook pros!

By then the alu macbooks will be totally outdated in their specs.

So if Apple have any sense then this event will focus largely on Macbook upgrades and Macbook Pro upgrades (if atleast the one that wasnt upgraded a few days ago). But to be honest I would hope that they have the new processors by then or some kind of quad cores for the MB Pros.

Iphone 3.0 will be out then im sure but as far as SL goes, I'm sure they will just give a public preview of it.

iOrlando

Mar 7, 2009, 09:40 AM

in my opinion...there are few reasons why steve would "officially" come back. Apple knows if he becomes CEO again, people will continue to ask what is the succession..what if that, what if this. Instead, I think he will become "senior adviser" to the CEO or some other pseudo title that is just a cover for his normal day-to-day apple work. Steve is very involved right now..and he will continue to be going forward...its just the titles that will change..but there is little reason for him to officially become CEO again.

Doctor Q

Mar 7, 2009, 09:41 AM

Now, I've been reading about the possible Verizon iPhone at WWDC and was wondering-
1. Should I not bother waiting and get an iPhone (If possible) or iPod touch (more likely)
2. Should I wait until the conference and go from there

Did you see Verizon iPhone in 2009 Unlikely (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/09/29/verizon-iphone-in-2009-unlikely/)? With evidence like that, I wouldn't recommend waiting 3 months for the tiny chance that the rumor was based in fact and that you won't have to change carriers.

DaBrain

Mar 7, 2009, 09:46 AM

I'm running the developer build on my developer build and the performance increase is insane. Just wait until you try iy you will want to spend the 150.

What is the specs and system your running it on? As it sounds Great so far! ;)

Eric S.

Mar 7, 2009, 10:50 AM

I (and I suspect most people) just can't get excited about a new big cat named OS release.

I think you're wrong about that. But it certainly will not be released this month.

Gluben

Mar 7, 2009, 11:13 AM

I'm going to guess that the WWDC will happen in June, and in the second week as speculated (8th-12th).

From what we know, Steve Jobs is on leave until June, although it might be the end of June, not the beginning. Still, I imagine he will return for the keynote.

Also, Apple's production cycle indicates that the iPhone gets updated June or July, which would make sense for the 3rd generation iPhone to be introduced too. iPods are updated in September, so I would say those are ruled out. The entire desktop line (Mac Mini, iMac, Mac Pro) has been updated, as has AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule. The Cinema Display, Apple TV and Snow Leopard are the other major things which haven't been updated in a while.

Thus, I'd say, after Steve Jobs returns and announces how it's great to be back and that "we've been working very hard and we have a lot to show you today", that the WWDC will focus on the TV/Cinema Display and iPhone. The first two will be introduced, and the iPhone will have plenty of time devoted to it. The "one more thing", if there is one these days, may well be a preview of Snow Leopard. Whilst I'd like to believe it will be the release of The Beatles on iTunes, that's highly unlikely because a) EMI would probably announce it, or b) it would be more suited for September and the music update. Either way, it probably won't happen.

So to summarise, I predict:

Steve Jobs returns for the keynote
1st half - New Apple TV model introduced
New Cinema Displays introduced to accompany new Apple TV
2nd half - iPhone 3rd gen, possibly an iPhone HD
"One more thing" - a preview of Snow Leopard
Music by...Adele? Anybody really.

Now I'm no expert when it comes to predicting these things, and I'm sure I'll be shot down for suggestions with an "EPIC FAIL", whatever that is, but these seem like logical guesses to me.

Lesser Evets

Mar 7, 2009, 11:49 AM

Precisely. Happens with other topics too. People post some claim as if it were fact with no evidence to back it up. Most of the time they're wrong.

I know you are tired of it and so am I.
There are a lot of people claiming to know the future and when they fail they either disappear or get defensive.

It would be best if they just realize the stuff their minds conclude is opinion and not fact, and it should be stated as such.

So to summarise, I predict:

Steve Jobs returns for the keynote
1st half - New Apple TV model introduced
New Cinema Displays introduced to accompany new Apple TV
2nd half - iPhone 3rd gen, possibly an iPhone HD
"One more thing" - a preview of Snow Leopard
Music by...Adele? Anybody really.

JOBS-iPHONE are probable.
Snow Leopard PREVIEW?? I hope not! You mean Snow Leopard release.

Music by Sesame Street.
Actually, U2 are pushing their boring brand of political sugar pills at the moment, so they might play up there.

jaw04005

Mar 7, 2009, 12:10 PM

I doubt that Snow Leopard will be shown on WWDC, I think it will be released earlier than that.

Apple has never released a major version of the operating system without a public presentation. Whether that's at WWDC (which considering Apple's history, it should be) or a Special Event, a presentation and ship date announcement will happen before Snow Leopard ships.

NT1440

Mar 7, 2009, 12:16 PM

What is this example you are trying to portray? Its completely irrelevant. I never said, or meant, "he's sick that's it for him". I personally believe that his situation is far more serious that he has let on, and I also believe he never would have stepped down if he thought he had a chance.

I have an opinion like everyone else, and every right to express it. I'm sorry if it bothers you that I do not believe for one minute that Jobs will ever be back, but thats really really really....too bad.
And your opinion is based on no evidence, otherwise known as 100% pure speculation.

ProwlingTiger

Mar 7, 2009, 01:45 PM

I'd like to see some innovative hardware. Apple needs something to grab the industry's attention again.

Sure they've had the iPhone which has been an incredible hit (makes me laugh watching Ballmer scoff at the idea before its release). And sure, Leopard has been amazing and I have no doubt Snow Leopard will improve things more. Makes you wonder though, as snow leopards cannot roar. Interesting name for an operating system with minimal new features.

What I really am itching to know is what OS XI will bring in a few years, assuming we don't go all the way to OS 10.9.

I still believe Apple hardware is a better class of technology, but it seems to be losing its luster. I don't know if anyone else feels that way. The only thing that really makes it great now is the operating system. The small hardware updates are growing old. I don't know what I'm expecting, perhaps mobile quad-core would be nice, though as I understand that's about Q4 2009 ~ Q1 2010 for Apple at earliest.

iMacmatician

Mar 7, 2009, 02:36 PM

I still believe Apple hardware is a better class of technology, but it seems to be losing its luster. I don't know if anyone else feels that way. I'm also tending towards this point of view.

The small hardware updates are growing old. I don't know what I'm expecting, perhaps mobile quad-core would be nice, though as I understand that's about Q4 2009 ~ Q1 2010 for Apple at earliest.Emphasis added. Nehalem (Clarksfield, late 2009) will be the first time that mobile quad-core will be cool enough to fit in the MacBook and MacBook Pro. But that doesn't mean Apple will use quad-core, as evidenced by the lack of mobile quad-cores in the iMac.

AtariKee

Mar 7, 2009, 02:36 PM

......

I got through half of page two of the comments when I thought to myself, "Why do I read this CRAP?!?!?"

No one knows anything, until it happens. Of all of the analysts; armchair or "professional", 99% of them are dead wrong all of the time.

Tallest Skil

Mar 7, 2009, 02:45 PM

inkswamp

Mar 7, 2009, 03:58 PM

From what we know, Steve Jobs is on leave until June, although it might be the end of June, not the beginning. Still, I imagine he will return for the keynote.

I'm betting Steve Jobs won't be present for WWDC and we'll see very few product announcements. If he's going to be out for medical reasons until June, it's hard to imagine him coming back and being able to get prepared on such short notice. Maybe he's up to it, but I'm thinking probably not, not after medical leave.

On top of that, it's apparent that they've been shifting the company image away from Jobs and shifting big announcements away from these kinds of events, so I think it would be a good time to have Phil Schiller and others give the keynote and not go too crazy with product announcements other than maybe showing off Snow Leopard and giving a release date. Won't raise any eyebrows and will further help shift the focus off Jobs and these events.

We'll probably see some special Apple campus events a month or so after Jobs comes back where the big product announcements will happen.

otis123

Mar 7, 2009, 04:10 PM

i love a new OS as much as the next mac nut, but whats so great about SL?

kastenbrust

Mar 7, 2009, 04:14 PM

Even though I am excited for Snow Leopard, I think I'm actually a little more excited for iPhone OS 3.0 :D

Can't wait to upgrade the OS on my new MacBook Pro and my iPhone 3G around that time :)

Oh, and lets see Final Cut Studio 3 Apple! :eek:

surely the iPhone 3.0 will be running Snow Leopard seeing as it runs Leopard already? and the next iPhone is expected to be multithreading?

If he wasn't coming back, the shareholders have a legal right to know. The board would be sued.

Noone can predict illness and cancer, and so theres nothing to sue the board on. The board doesn't know how his cancer is progressing, thats patient doctor confidentiality...
However...faith in the company may drop a little, affecting their share price, but since they have a solid design and management team, mainly thanks to Steve, i think they will be fine as a company.

Peace

Mar 7, 2009, 04:26 PM

surely the iPhone 3.0 will be running Snow Leopard seeing as it runs Leopard already? and the next iPhone is expected to be multithreading?

The iPhone already runs a form of Snow Leopard.

kastenbrust

Mar 7, 2009, 04:32 PM

The iPhone already runs a form of Snow Leopard.

you mean Leopard, which it does. Snow Leopard is still in beta stage, and its pretty much a joke, even CS4 doesn't work on it properly, which i've tried myself, but it will be great when its finished.

iMacmatician

Mar 7, 2009, 04:53 PM

Who thinks we will see Steve Jobs appear for at least a moment on the stage? Or at least word that he will return, say, before the end of the month?

Jayomat

Mar 7, 2009, 05:03 PM

Who thinks we will see Steve Jobs appear for at least a moment on the stage? Or at least word that he will return, say, before the end of the month?

omg WHO CARES? as long as he's going to be in health again.

the whole:
"he is coming back"
"no he isn't going to come back"
"oooh yees he will come back"
"what do you know?"
"insert bs here"
"insert more bs here"

is REALLY annoying!! just stop it , PLEASE!

NT1440

Mar 7, 2009, 05:05 PM

omg WHO CARES? as long as he's going to be in health again.

the whole:
"he is coming back"
"no he isn't going to come back"
"oooh yees he will come back"
"what do you know?"
"insert bs here"
"insert more bs here"

is REALLY annoying!! just stop it , PLEASE!

Stay off the forums if you have a problem with legitimate questions.

Jayomat

Mar 7, 2009, 05:22 PM

Stay off the forums if you have a problem with legitimate questions.

i have no problem with "legitimate" questions. but the question for steve's health doesnt help. it just doesnst make sense.

steve is not a "product" like the new iphone/mac whatever. speculate about whatever you like, but give the man a break. i accept that apeculations about new products are interesting, but that man is ill, not more and not less (hopefully).

give him the time he needs to recover and he will be back if he wants to; on which "position" doens't matter either.

MacFly123

Mar 7, 2009, 10:17 PM

surely the iPhone 3.0 will be running Snow Leopard seeing as it runs Leopard already? and the next iPhone is expected to be multithreading?

I'm sure it will. Mac OS X and iPhone OS kind of go back and forth in lending features and technologies to each other now. I think now that Apple addressed a lot of corporate needs in iPhone OS 2.0 that in 3.0 we will see some nice consumer features that mainly center around video. :D That is my prediction, so things like video recording and YouTube uploading and iChat. All made nice and smooth with Open GL and Grand Central to match the hardware update :)

dmmcintyre3

Mar 8, 2009, 02:06 PM

I want snow leopard preview on the March 24th event and release at WWDC. I also want new MacBooks With quad core MBPros and 133 ppi screens and 150 ppi option on MacBook Pros. I do not want to use resolution independence to get full HD on 15" like I am using on my PB. Full HD on 15 inch is great.

Shtekeris

Mar 8, 2009, 04:20 PM

MacBooks With quad core

:D .. yeah... right.. come back after a few years

ProwlingTiger

Mar 8, 2009, 10:48 PM

I'm honestly wishing for a pre-WWDC Snow Leopard release. I know that would go against tradition, but honestly it's time to throw some curveballs.

That would also spike up the rumour mill about what is going to be at WWDC09. Besides, how long will they be able to talk at WWDC about how SL utilizes all the cores. Sure, it will be impressive, but half the audience will be bored to death.

Imagine a video like the one at MacWorld San Francisco where they're showing how the laser process works. Except this time it will focus on how Grand Central and Cocoa work.....b-o-r-i-n-g (for most audience).

jaw04005

Mar 9, 2009, 12:25 AM

That would also spike up the rumour mill about what is going to be at WWDC09. Besides, how long will they be able to talk at WWDC about how SL utilizes all the cores. Sure, it will be impressive, but half the audience will be bored to death.

You do realize that the majority of the WWDC audience is developers, right? It is after all a developer's conference. I would expect the majority of the WWDC keynote to be devoted to Snow Leopard and its technologies.

ProwlingTiger

Mar 9, 2009, 11:30 PM

You do realize that the majority of the WWDC audience is developers, right? It is after all a developer's conference. I would expect the majority of the WWDC keynote to be devoted to Snow Leopard and its technologies.

Aye, that which I have no problem with. My main concern is that if WWDC this year is all about SL then they should scale back the media a bit. I can't remember, I think it was MacWorld San Francisco when I was reading about all the media hype that amounted to nothing. Er...wait maybe it was one of the iPod events.

I guess my point is that I wouldn't like Apple to become the laughing stock of the IT World come June for having another huge media event with no hardware releases.

NT1440

Mar 9, 2009, 11:33 PM

Aye, that which I have no problem with. My main concern is that if WWDC this year is all about SL then they should scale back the media a bit. I can't remember, I think it was MacWorld San Francisco when I was reading about all the media hype that amounted to nothing. Er...wait maybe it was one of the iPod events.

I guess my point is that I wouldn't like Apple to become the laughing stock of the IT World come June for having another huge media event with no hardware releases.
WWDC is only a huge media event because the media has deemed it that. At its heart, its just a nerds dream developer conference (i hope to go sometime).

eddietr

Mar 9, 2009, 11:41 PM

WWDC is only a huge media event because the media has deemed it that. At its heart, its just a nerds dream developer conference (i hope to go sometime).

Yeah, and it's only that first little keynote that's not covered by the NDA and definitely not technical at all. Last couple of years, it's almost not even fit with the rest of the program. It's like "ok, the keynote is over, the press is out of here, now we start with the real conference stuff..."

NT1440

Mar 9, 2009, 11:44 PM

Yeah, and it's only that first little keynote that's not covered by the NDA and definitely not technical at all. Last couple of years, it's almost not even fit with the rest of the program. It's like "ok, the keynote is over, the press is out of here, now we start with the real conference stuff..."

Exactly. You can say the KEYNOTE is a media frenzy, simply because the media goes nuts if paris hilton farts or apple puts a new powerbutton symbol on, but the conference itself is exactly what it should be, a haven for code monkees.:)