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simplymuzik3
Mar 6, 2009, 06:55 PM
I just got a powermac g5 dual processor 1.8ghz, 1 gb ram, 80gb hard drive, for $400 CAD!!! I love this thing! Im using it as my main computer, and it runs circles around my dual 800mhz quicksilver!!! People say that the powermac g5's are no good, but I think they are amazing!!! They handle iLife and iWork 09' perfectly! This rant is just to tell everyone how good my new g5 is! :)



Toronto Mike
Mar 6, 2009, 08:41 PM
I love my dual 2.0 G5 that I bought used last May so I know how excited you must be.

I've decided to dig my heels in and stay on CS2 for many many years because I feel this is a solid performer with Tiger. I would rather learn the software I have more thoroughly at this point than worry about what is currently on offer.

Actually, I take that back - I'm always excited about what is rolling out, but I cannot justify spending the money for a new Mac Pro. My jaw dropped when I was looking at the prices in $CDN - add the cost of the CS4 upgrade and it's mind boggling to spend that kind of cash for what I use my machine for.

I wish they could bring a tower out for $1,700, room for 2x HDs, easily upgradable graphic card, and something greater than 8GB of ram. I'd would definately rethink my future upgrade strategy.

As it stands, I do think the G5s are great values right now if you can get the right ones and use the older software.

Mike

NIPRING
Mar 6, 2009, 09:39 PM
Congrats! For $140 I upped my ram to 4GB from newegg. And i got lucky that the previous owner already put in the Ati X800XT. Its wicked fast for me. I'm coming off a 1.42 mini with 1gb ram, so the Dual 1.8 G5s are a huge leap for me.

California
Mar 7, 2009, 07:06 AM
I miss my 2.0 dual core Powermac G5. I agree, G5s are a great bargain now. Love my quad. Has 7 gigs of ram and it ran great even before the ram upgrade. What is fascinating is that Apple has worked out any of the software bugs that the G5s had previously. Powermac G5s are stable, fast and amazing machines and finally affordable.

By the way, I run my G5s on the highest CPU settings instead of automatic. When I had my 1.8ghz G5, I learned this secret...

Toronto Mike
Mar 7, 2009, 07:53 AM
I miss my 2.0 dual core Powermac G5. I agree, G5s are a great bargain now. Love my quad. Has 7 gigs of ram and it ran great even before the ram upgrade. What is fascinating is that Apple has worked out any of the software bugs that the G5s had previously. Powermac G5s are stable, fast and amazing machines and finally affordable.

By the way, I run my G5s on the highest CPU settings instead of automatic. When I had my 1.8ghz G5, I learned this secret...

What is the secret? Can I make my dual 2.0 go faster?

Mike

dmw007
Mar 7, 2009, 10:01 AM
What is the secret? Can I make my dual 2.0 go faster?

Mike

Just make sure that under energy settings in system preferences that you have CPU performance set to Highest over Automatic. This will help boost your Power Mac G5's performance Toronto Mike. :)


P.S.- Glad that you are liking your RAM California. :)

simplymuzik3
Mar 7, 2009, 10:55 AM
Does the highest setting make a big difference over automatic? I dont want my powermac to overheat or something :)

California
Mar 7, 2009, 11:13 AM
P.S.- Glad that you are liking your RAM California. :)

Thanks again dmw007...

for selling me that great ram for the PM!

California
Mar 7, 2009, 11:17 AM
Does the highest setting make a big difference over automatic? I dont want my powermac to overheat or something :)

You are overridding the system CPU downclock for when the system thinks you don't need to access the total CPU power.

I actually did this because I noticed the fans would run up and down on the 1.8ghz single G5 I had as it adjusted to whatever I was doing on my Powermac. It was more of a fan issue for me than power, but solved both when you override the automatic settings. Every Powermac I've owned since is quiet as a mouse. And powerful.

Just keep you case insides clean of dust. I truly think this is one of the biggest problems with them and an easy fix. Dust buildup also equals heat buildup.

I first saw this CPU automatic underclock when I bought a two year old 1 ghz Titanium Powerbook a few years back. I had Daystar's application that pushed the system to maximum CPU and was alarmed that the 1ghz Tibook was only running at 667mhz most of the time. Apple explained that automatic thing to me -- on the Tibooks heat was a big issue (that last model had two fans instead of one on the previous models because of this). I solved the Powerbook issue with the Daystar software and an elevated stand to keep the air circulating.

With the G5s, Apple was still worried about heat issues as we all know. What is great for us G5 owners now is it seems a lot of the issues have been worked out with software updates. My PM G5s run cooler now than before, quieter now and yes ram and better video cards also help. This is why they are such a good bargain, IMHO.

simplymuzik3
Mar 7, 2009, 11:19 AM
okay thanks :) Im setting it to highest right now. Will it be a noticable difference?

California
Mar 7, 2009, 12:41 PM
okay thanks :) Im setting it to highest right now. Will it be a noticable difference?

Let us know. How much ram again do you have maximum in that G5?

sigmadog
Mar 7, 2009, 01:10 PM
I'm doing the same right now to my 2.0 Dual G5. So far, it seems a bit snappier opening files, and reacting to mouse actions (clicks, etc.).

This is a great tip!

Edit to add: By the way, I've got 5.5GB RAM on mine. We'll see how much improvement there is when I'm processing images in Photoshop and handling large illustrations in Illustrator (it always seems to lag a bit with large Illustrator files).

nplima
Mar 7, 2009, 01:19 PM
I just got a powermac g5 dual processor 1.8ghz, 1 gb ram, 80gb hard drive, for $400 CAD!!! I love this thing! Im using it as my main computer, and it runs circles around my dual 800mhz quicksilver!!! People say that the powermac g5's are no good, but I think they are amazing!!! They handle iLife and iWork 09' perfectly! This rant is just to tell everyone how good my new g5 is! :)

yay! :)

what's the geekbench score?

simplymuzik3
Mar 7, 2009, 02:21 PM
Let us know. How much ram again do you have maximum in that G5?

I just got it yesterday, and it came with 1GB ram(2 x 512). I plan on buying 2GB(2 x 1GB) sticks pretty soon. Everywhere I look, its like 90$ for 2 1GB sticks. Does anyone know where to get them cheaper(in Canada)? Thanks.

NIPRING
Mar 7, 2009, 03:14 PM
yay! :)

what's the geekbench score?
Mine is 1631. I thought it was pretty good until i checked geekbench's Mac Performance page. Oh well, i'm happy with it anyway. :apple:

simplymuzik3
Mar 7, 2009, 04:14 PM
I got 1581 with the 1Gb ram and dual 1.8 processors. Im perfectly happy with mine. What do current intel Mac's get?

Toronto Mike
Mar 7, 2009, 05:07 PM
[QUOTE=dmw007;7228659]Just make sure that under energy settings in system preferences that you have CPU performance set to Highest over Automatic. This will help boost your Power Mac G5's performance Toronto Mike. :)

Thank you for that tip. When I checked out the setting, it was already on the "Highest" setting. I bought by machine used, so I guess the previous owner knew what he was doing.

I am hoping that when Snow Leopard comes out, that the last of the ppc G5 hold outs will want to make the jump to Intel. I am patiently waiting to pick up an identical G5 as a back up/spare parts machine for a very good price. I am so impressed with what this machine can do on my existing software that it'll be interesting how long I stay where I am without upgrading.

Mike

sigmadog
Mar 7, 2009, 05:25 PM
PowerMac Dual 2.0 G5 / 5.5GB RAM GeekBench results: 1741

Not bad. Though I've seen some of the 2008 MacPros come in in the 8500 range or better. Those were 8-core computers.

California
Mar 7, 2009, 05:32 PM
PowerMac Dual 2.0 G5 / 5.5GB RAM GeekBench results: 1741

Not bad. Though I've seen some of the 2008 MacPros come in in the 8500 range or better. Those were 8-core computers.


Re: Geekbench scores... the ram on those scores for G5s is usually 512mb...

not really a good indication IMHO.

With 7 gigs in a Quad, I am sailing past most intels I've used.

Toronto Mike
Mar 7, 2009, 05:36 PM
It makes me wonder what I am missing when I see the just recent Mac Pros post scores that are over 4x what I currently have. Yet, it really comes down to what work you need to do with which software you need to do it with that counts in the end.

I try not to get too caught up in the how far behind my G5 is now. I'll focus on learning what my current software is capable of. That should keep me busy for the next five years at least.

Mike

rockinrocker
Mar 7, 2009, 06:11 PM
I've decided to dig my heels in and stay on CS2 for many many years because I feel this is a solid performer with Tiger. I would rather learn the software I have more thoroughly at this point than worry about what is currently on offer.

This is an excellent attitude to have, and one I wish more creative types that also use lots of tech in their work would have.
Good job.:D

fiercetiger224
Mar 7, 2009, 06:29 PM
Awesome dude! I'm waiting to pop money on a G5 Quad when they get even cheaper on the used market. I just want a G5 just to have one. :D

There are always those who get the latest and greatest, and there are those who wait and get it used/cheap, and it becomes their "latest and greatest". Even though you lag behind in the times, it's "much faster" to you, due to your old previous machine that's probably much slower. ;)

I always loved G5s when I used them years ago (damn has it been that long?! :rolleyes:). Although I still love my Mac Pro...

Toronto Mike
Mar 7, 2009, 06:37 PM
I think what changed my attitude about how to view all this change is the book, "Professional Photoshop" by Dan Marguils. The density of excellent knowledge contained within this book, and the required period to absorb and apply this would take years of hard work and practice. Dan states himself that most of what he explains can be done with Photoshop 7, only a few of his more cutting edge ideas use the newer features found in CS2. What makes Dan so interesting is that his focus is on the ideas of how to make an image look better - much of which can be found utilizing the tools we already have in new and different ways - like a shift in consciousness

Thinking of many of our great 20th century artists. They were using tools that have been in use for hundreds of years. Raphael was using the same chalk over 400 years ago that you can go down to any serious art store and purchase for $3.00 a stick.

So much of what takes place in our computers needs to take place between our ears.

Mike

ps - This thread is almost turning into a G5 lovefest amidst the rejoicing of our Mac Pro brothers

Floris1994
Mar 7, 2009, 07:17 PM
Does the highest setting make a big difference over automatic? I dont want my powermac to overheat or something :)

My iMac G5 is the one to be worried about overheating! It is like 65Celcius Idle

nüb
Mar 7, 2009, 08:43 PM
I'm debating getting rid of my G5 for a new MacPro. What are peoples' thoughts??

NoNameBrand
Mar 8, 2009, 12:38 AM
I'm debating getting rid of my G5 for a new MacPro. What are peoples' thoughts??

If it doesn't do something you want it to, or doesn't do it fast enough, do it.

My G5 is trucking along great, except I Aperture is a bit sluggish, and I'm planning on getting a newer DSLR with much bigger files.

nüb
Mar 8, 2009, 12:49 AM
If it doesn't do something you want it to, or doesn't do it fast enough, do it.

My G5 is trucking along great, except I Aperture is a bit sluggish, and I'm planning on getting a newer DSLR with much bigger files.

I can definitely use the power for music and renderings...but my main concern is that 10.6 will not support PowerPC (or so I hear). I typically like to keep Logic Pro up to date. But i'm thinking i should try and sell the G5 while it's still worth a few hundred. ;)

jedijoe
Mar 8, 2009, 03:50 AM
Selling my dual-core 2.3Ghz G5 on eBay tomorrow. My 2.4Ghz unibody MacBook is faster in every aspect, especially Lightroom and Photoshop. (with one exception --- HDD, had 2x 10k WD Raptors in RAID-0 with the G5)

Keeping the raptors though, for a Mac Pro purchase in the distance future (late summer). For now, the tiny MB connected to my 30" cinema display will have to hold me over :)

(oh miss the FireWire also, but a minor annoyance that will go away after a Mac Pro purchase, luckily all my external enclosures were both USB2 and FW400 and/or FW800)

grue
Mar 8, 2009, 03:54 AM
my main concern is that 10.6 will not support PowerPC (or so I hear).

If it does support PowerPC, I'm going to be fairly pissed off unless it's a separate install disk that has nothing to do with the Intel version.

simplymuzik3
Mar 8, 2009, 10:26 AM
Im going to be fine keeping my g5 with leopard. Im mainly using it for the iphone sdk(xcode, interface builder), and it runs very smooth. I can still develop iphone apps with leopard, so Im perfectly happy with my g5, even if its not supported by snow leopard :)

sigmadog
Mar 8, 2009, 11:55 AM
I love my Dual 2.0 G5. But i will be upgrading to a new MacPro in a month or two (sooner if I can swing it financially).

My G5 is a very solid performer for most of my professional design needs (CS4 mainly), but I'm doing much more illustration these days, and my primary illustration application, Painter X, chokes my G5 with some of the larger files, multiple layers, and brush-strokes. It can't seem to keep up with me, and it's very stifling to have to wait 30 seconds for a brush-stroke to render (kinda kills the creativity, if you know what I mean). I'm sure a more powerful processor(s) will alleviate that problem.

I'll probably hold on to the G5 for a few months afterwards, then it'll probably go up on the auction block (or to a relative, if they want it).

Toronto Mike
Mar 8, 2009, 12:09 PM
I love my Dual 2.0 G5. But i will be upgrading to a new MacPro in a month or two (sooner if I can swing it financially).

My G5 is a very solid performer for most of my professional design needs (CS4 mainly), but I'm doing much more illustration these days, and my primary illustration application, Painter X, chokes my G5 with some of the larger files, multiple layers, and brush-strokes. It can't seem to keep up with me, and it's very stifling to have to wait 30 seconds for a brush-stroke to render (kinda kills the creativity, if you know what I mean). I'm sure a more powerful processor(s) will alleviate that problem.


How is the performance of CS4 on your G5 compared to what you were getting with CS2? What size of Photoshop/Illustrator files are you dealing with?

I have 6GB of ram and the 256 ati XT800 card. Would this be enough to cope with CS4 on my dual 2.0 G5? My thought I might take advantage of my upgrade eligibility while I still can - if the performance is the same as CS2.

Mike

AdamTro
Mar 8, 2009, 12:56 PM
I have a dual 2.5 G5 and I am very close to selling it to upgrade. I do a lot of professional FCP work and compression in HD, etc. Since the new Nehalems are somewhat of a ripoff right now, I'm highly considering getting a used 3.2 Peryn 8 core.

motox25
Mar 8, 2009, 01:47 PM
Just make sure that under energy settings in system preferences that you have CPU performance set to Highest over Automatic. This will help boost your Power Mac G5's performance Toronto Mike. :)


P.S.- Glad that you are liking your RAM California. :)

WOW I can tell a huge difference. I bought my G5 last year used and I love it. Planning on upgrading to a new Mac Pro whenever snow leopard comes out though.

sigmadog
Mar 8, 2009, 05:14 PM
How is the performance of CS4 on your G5 compared to what you were getting with CS2? What size of Photoshop/Illustrator files are you dealing with?

I have 6GB of ram and the 256 ati XT800 card. Would this be enough to cope with CS4 on my dual 2.0 G5? My thought I might take advantage of my upgrade eligibility while I still can - if the performance is the same as CS2.

Mike

It's been a while since I had CS2, so I can't say for sure. I don't recall Photoshop being any faster, and Illustrator still drags at times when I have a large, complicated file. InDesign seems pretty snappy in CS4, however.

I've 5.5GB RAM and never really had anything choke. My advice: if you think you'd like the new features in CS4, get it, but I don't think there would be much noticeable boost in performance between the two on your G5.

It's a free opinion, and worth precisely what you paid for it, so take that into account as well.

Good Luck!

-hh
Mar 8, 2009, 07:22 PM
I'm debating getting rid of my G5 for a new MacPro. What are peoples' thoughts??

I'm going to keep my G5 around as a storage mule on my Gigabit Ethernet based LAN.

I picked up a Sonnet Jive and SATA card for cheap, so it now can take five (5) HD's internally. OS X supports RAID, so a RAID 1 is in line.

YMMV if you want to pick up a copy of OS X Server 10.4 (Tiger) for $50 or so, and play around with more 'Server-y' things. Do keep in mind that its easy to dual-boot.

Granted, some people will point out that its going to be consuming some electricity to keep it running, but its also cheap insurance to keep it around in case the primary machine has some sort of problem.


-hh

Toronto Mike
Mar 8, 2009, 08:52 PM
Thanks Sigmadog for your thoughts.

There are a few features that would be great to have from CS4 that I know I would appreciate over the years. It's not a must have - especially not at the expense of the performance I'm enjoying already with CS2. I've managed to cobble together a few third party programs that do some of the stuff in CS4 - like Autopano Pro's panoramic stiching software.

All in all, I ask out of curiosity. Thanks.

Mike

NoNameBrand
Mar 9, 2009, 07:44 AM
I have 6GB of ram and the 256 ati XT800 card. Would this be enough to cope with CS4 on my dual 2.0 G5? My thought I might take advantage of my upgrade eligibility while I still can - if the performance is the same as CS2.

Your X800 card isn't going to make Photoshop any faster. However, CS4 ought to run just fine on the G5 - at least, CS3 runs fine here.

I've worked with billboards (6000x2000px) just fine. Having lots of RAM and a fast scratch disk helps (four volume software RAID0).

Toronto Mike
Mar 9, 2009, 02:44 PM
Your X800 card isn't going to make Photoshop any faster. However, CS4 ought to run just fine on the G5 - at least, CS3 runs fine here.

I've worked with billboards (6000x2000px) just fine. Having lots of RAM and a fast scratch disk helps (four volume software RAID0).

Thanks for the words of encouragement. Looking at your set-up, we both have similar specs so your success with CS3 is comforting. The best thing to do would be downloading the trial version and see for myself. I know that the ATI xt800 is not one of the supported cards for the new graphic features of CS4. In other forums people have mentioned the possible workarounds if problems are encountered; you still don't get the graphic features, but the rest would work fine - so they say.

I currently use my second internal hard drive as a dedicated scratch disk. Do you find the four volume software raid makes a noticeable difference? I cannot imagine my files getting over 300-500 mg at the very most for poster size images. Should I even consider a raid set up? The learning curve of dealing with such a concept seems intimidating.

Thanks for your reply.

Mike

NoNameBrand
Mar 9, 2009, 04:06 PM
I found it increased my computer's time in the horse-spinning benchmark (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=200558&page=7#156) to be faster than otherwise similar systems. I can run some of the more recent benchmarks for you with/without the array.

Real world? depends on how much Photoshop uses the cache. Made a difference for me on large images.

If you don't have an eSATA card, then I wouldn't bother - your dedicated disk is fine (though, perhaps only use a small partition at the start). If you do have the ability to have more than two disks in/on your G5, all you have to do is add a small partition to each - I used a 8-9 GB on each of four disks, and then create a striped RAID set of these in Disk Utility. You then tell Photoshop to use it.

FYI You're going to have to juggle your data around to add partitions to non-empty disks, but SuperDuper! or Carbon Copy Cloner (or even ditto, IIRC) make this painless.

Oh, and one small caveat that got me a few weeks ago - if you're going to swap disks (destroying your scratch array), set Photoshop to not use it before it fails to find it, or it'll hang on launch. CS4 may be better in this regard.

Toronto Mike
Mar 9, 2009, 05:16 PM
Thanks for the ideas NoNameBrand.

For now, with the maximum size of files I am using, I'll stay with the second internal Sata drive as my scratch disk since I am pleased with my performance. However, I'll keep your suggestions on file so if I go bigger on a consistent basis, and need to squeeze out more performance I'll give it a shot.

I notice that you are using four disks. I was thinking in the future of getting a double external Hd enclosure. Would linking this to a eSata card give me comparable results to what you are achieving, or is it necessary to go with a 4x HD enclousre to be worth doing? Is is possible with such a system to get dual usage from the same external HD by seperating the drives into two partitions; each drive partitioned into 1x Raid, and 1x normal back up.

Or does the usage of a Raid system make this impossible to seperate and partition on the one hard drive? To do what you are proposing, will I have to have two completely different external hard drive systems: one for Raid, and one for external back-up?

Would an internal Raptor drive be an easier solution to a Raid system for increasing the scratch disk speed?

Mike

simplymuzik3
Mar 9, 2009, 05:40 PM
Im thinking of using an external IDE drive that I have laying around with time machine. I would be connecting it to my g5 with firewire 400. The actual IDE drive is 7200rpm. Do you think this will work good for time machine? Is it okay to use FW400?

NoNameBrand
Mar 9, 2009, 10:51 PM
Here's a post with my current setup (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=651345#17). The day that I posted that, I had planned on migrating my user data to the 'data' partitions, but currently it's just photography stuff.

That should tell you a lot about how I partitioned everything. The few times I've changed disk setups, a spare SATA drive or two has let me do it without too much fuss - clone partitions off disk to be re-purposed, check data, erase first disk, rinse, repeat.

I have a SeriTek four-port eSATA card. I have no complaints with it. I had a SeriTek two-bay enclosure, but it died after a power outage (yes, I have a UPS, yes it was on it, no, I don't know why - one too many power bumps, I guess). I replaced it with two Vantec eSATA/USB enclosures like the one I already had for TimeMachine.

SydneyDev
Mar 9, 2009, 11:23 PM
I used to have one of those. It was a huge leap over the PM G4, and a lot quieter, and I imagine still very usable today.

Toronto Mike
Mar 10, 2009, 01:10 AM
Here's a post with my current setup (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=651345#17). The day that I posted that, I had planned on migrating my user data to the 'data' partitions, but currently it's just photography stuff.

That should tell you a lot about how I partitioned everything. The few times I've changed disk setups, a spare SATA drive or two has let me do it without too much fuss - clone partitions off disk to be re-purposed, check data, erase first disk, rinse, repeat.

I have a SeriTek four-port eSATA card. I have no complaints with it. I had a SeriTek two-bay enclosure, but it died after a power outage (yes, I have a UPS, yes it was on it, no, I don't know why - one too many power bumps, I guess). I replaced it with two Vantec eSATA/USB enclosures like the one I already had for TimeMachine.

Once again, thanks for the response.

Looking at your set-up answers my question about partitioning part of a hard drive for a raid array, leaving the rest of the drive to be used as normal for other purposes. It's definately working for you all this time. Is the difference that noticeable when using this Raid set-up over what you were doing previously?

I already have an eSata 4 external port card and am halfway there for what you suggest - just need the external HD enclosure. It sounds intriguing for a long term project to boost the performance of my G5.

Another interesting idea that someone mentioned on the G5 Apple Discussion Forums was using four seperate hard drives, each loaded with one task:

hard drive 1 - OS drive
hard drive 2 - Application drive
hard drive 3 - files drive
hard drive 4 - scratch disk

The theory presented was that each drive would deal indpendently with each major segment of a computing task avoiding much searching back and forth across one or two hard drives. That sounded to me like something within my own technical ability to grasp since I haven't a clue about raid. But your idea is worth a try as well.

Thanks for your insights.

Mike

NoNameBrand
Mar 10, 2009, 08:46 AM
Is the difference that noticeable when using this Raid set-up over what you were doing previously?

I've been using something like the current setup for close to 2.5 years, so things are a bit foggy in my memory. The system was faster when I was working on billboards. For general Photoshop use though? I can't really remember. That's why benchmarks are useful - they make me feel better about my decisions. If you're only using Photoshop to add "I CAN HAZ CHEEZEBURGER" to a picture of your cat or toddler, there's probably not much point. ;)

hard drive 1 - OS drive
hard drive 2 - Application drive
hard drive 3 - files drive
hard drive 4 - scratch disk


There's no real reason to keep your OS and Apps separate. If you haven't, read the Mac Performance Guide (http://macperformanceguide.com/), specifically this pages about general setup (http://macperformanceguide.com/Mac-SettingUpYourMac.html) and Photoshop setup (http://macperformanceguide.com/OptimizingPhotoshop-Configuration.html).

Also, that setup doesn't have any backup drives. If you have 10.5, I'd use TimeMachine. It does slow my G5 down for a few minutes when it runs, but it's only a problem when I'm playing games. I just turn it off for that.

gdeusthewhizkid
Mar 10, 2009, 09:06 AM
Congrats! For $140 I upped my ram to 4GB from newegg. And i got lucky that the previous owner already put in the Ati X800XT. Its wicked fast for me. I'm coming off a 1.42 mini with 1gb ram, so the Dual 1.8 G5s are a huge leap for me.


I know i got the same setup. It's a great upgrade and i still can't justify getting a mac pro for just using logic pro. Still great machines.

Wiska
Mar 10, 2009, 09:09 AM
I just got a powermac g5 dual processor 1.8ghz, 1 gb ram, 80gb hard drive, for $400 CAD!!! I love this thing! Im using it as my main computer, and it runs circles around my dual 800mhz quicksilver!!! People say that the powermac g5's are no good, but I think they are amazing!!! They handle iLife and iWork 09' perfectly! This rant is just to tell everyone how good my new g5 is! :)

Wait until you get the 2008 8-core 2.8 Mac Pro or the new Nehalems. They will run at least 8x to 10x faster than the G5. :p How do I know? I owned the same model, albeit with 3GB, and I also owned a previous single core 867 mhz quicksilver.

California
Mar 10, 2009, 11:04 AM
I need a legacy machine with my G5. I just sold my Quad and 2.0 Dual Core and got the 2.3 Dual Core for this purpose. But am missing my Quad already. I will stuff it with as much ram as possible and the 4500 512mb Quatro card.

Hoping I won't notice too big of a slowdown from my Quad...

Mactagonist
Mar 10, 2009, 11:23 AM
PowerMac Dual 2.0 G5 / 5.5GB RAM GeekBench results: 1741

Not bad. Though I've seen some of the 2008 MacPros come in in the 8500 range or better. Those were 8-core computers.

I just got 2600 on my Air! :cool:

I still want a Powermac G5 or early Mac Pro once they get cheaper. I just need it as a server with lots of drives, both would be much quieter and cooler then the Powermac g4 pulling that duty now.

Toronto Mike
Mar 10, 2009, 02:29 PM
I've been using something like the current setup for close to 2.5 years, so things are a bit foggy in my memory. The system was faster when I was working on billboards. For general Photoshop use though? I can't really remember. That's why benchmarks are useful - they make me feel better about my decisions. If you're only using Photoshop to add "I CAN HAZ CHEEZEBURGER" to a picture of your cat or toddler, there's probably not much point. ;)



There's no real reason to keep your OS and Apps separate. If you haven't, read the Mac Performance Guide (http://macperformanceguide.com/), specifically this pages about general setup (http://macperformanceguide.com/Mac-SettingUpYourMac.html) and Photoshop setup (http://macperformanceguide.com/OptimizingPhotoshop-Configuration.html).

Also, that setup doesn't have any backup drives. If you have 10.5, I'd use TimeMachine. It does slow my G5 down for a few minutes when it runs, but it's only a problem when I'm playing games. I just turn it off for that.

Once again, thanks for the info.

Mike

virtuatony
Mar 10, 2009, 02:42 PM
the good old days when IBM made the chips and everyone thought intel chips were crap...

zmttoxics
Mar 10, 2009, 08:02 PM
I got my 2005 2.0 DC last july for 700 bucks. Its great as a daily surfer and occasional developer. However, my 2.16 intel macbook kicks the crap out of it. :\

motox25
Mar 14, 2009, 10:44 AM
Thanks for the ideas NoNameBrand.


Would an internal Raptor drive be an easier solution to a Raid system for increasing the scratch disk speed?

Mike

Yes I think raptor drives are the way to go myself. I notice a good performance increase.

Toronto Mike
Mar 14, 2009, 06:23 PM
Thanks Motox25 for the input.

My next drive to purchase will be a Raptor for my internal scratch disk - and see what happens. I bought my machine used, and I suspect that at some point I should make provisions to replace it. Anyway, why not go all hog and put a Raptor in to see the difference and experiment.

Mike

motox25
Mar 15, 2009, 12:35 AM
Thanks Motox25 for the input.

My next drive to purchase will be a Raptor for my internal scratch disk - and see what happens. I bought my machine used, and I suspect that at some point I should make provisions to replace it. Anyway, why not go all hog and put a Raptor in to see the difference and experiment.

Mike

Exactly. I got my G5 used and first thing I replaced was the old 80GB HDD with a raptor drive. It makes it run so much better with leopard

Corax
Apr 27, 2009, 03:15 PM
Hey guys,

I've got a Power Mac G5 dual 1.8GHz and I just love it.
I don't prefer using my new MacBook 2.4GHz unibody over it.
It amazes me what this thing still can do. Somethings that aren't easy on my MacBook also run on my Power Mac, wich I didn't expect.
Like running HD movies.

By the way, I got my Power Mac for just €300,- (with protective plastic foil still on some metal plates) in a great condition, only needed some dust cleaning in the inside.

bladerunner88
Apr 29, 2009, 06:59 PM
Greetings,

Was wondering if anyone thinks there will ever be a Video Card for the G5 that would include an option to attach the new LCD 24" Apple Cinema Displays?

zmttoxics
Apr 29, 2009, 07:02 PM
Greetings,

Was wondering if anyone thinks there will ever be a Video Card for the G5 that would include an option to attach the new LCD 24" Apple Cinema Displays?

No, there wont be.

bladerunner88
Apr 29, 2009, 07:10 PM
Hmm.. so am looking at monitor upgrade options, currently I have an ACD 22"- the original but its getting a bit dim and the colors are not as accurate.
And wondering if I should try and get ahold of a recent 23" DVI ACD or if there might be more Apple Displays in the pipeline that would still offer DVI?

Corax
May 4, 2009, 05:43 PM
I have a Philips Brilliance 220CW and I'm very happy with it!
Great image, contrast and specs.
There are even better models from Philips that I was considering but this one only cost me €168,- and was available so I didn't have to order and wait.
I am not well known for my patience...hahaha