iTunes 8.1 "Coming Soon": Speed Boosts, TV/Movie Genius Feature and More

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As noted in its technical specifications (http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/specs.html), the new iPod shuffle (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/11/apple-releases-smaller-4gb-ipod-shuffle-in-black-and-silver/) released today requires iTunes 8.1, which is yet to be released. Apple's iTunes download page (http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/) also includes a note about the upcoming release on the download button itself.


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Apple's "What's New" page (http://www.apple.com/itunes/whatsnew/) for iTunes highlights a few of the changes coming in the update, including speed boosts for library loading, iTunes Store browsing, and device syncing, expansion of the Genius feature to include movies and TV shows, and a change in the default audio import settings to 256-kbps AAC.


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In addition to the highlighted features, Apple's "iTunes A to Z" features page (http://www.apple.com/itunes/features) suggests several additional changes, including updated Parental Controls that appear to add the ability to disable access to the entire iTunes Store while still allowing access to iTunes U (http://apple.com/itunesu/) content. The page also adds an entry for Autofill, which does not clearly specify what the changes are, although it appears possible that the feature implemented for the smallest-capacity iPods is being extended to all models.

Article Link: iTunes 8.1 "Coming Soon": Speed Boosts, TV/Movie Genius Feature and More (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/11/itunes-8-1-coming-soon-speed-boosts-tv-movie-genius-feature-and-more/)

[Vandam500]

Speed Boosts is going to be my favorite "feature". The TV/Movie Genius sounds interesting.

[TuffLuffJimmy]

sweet. iTunes has been dog slow lately

[Pixellated]

Speed Boosts is going to be my favorite "feature". The TV/Movie Genius sounds interesting.

Speed under Windows is absolutely terrible. I half think they do it to put people off Windows.

[pismodude2]

TV Shows- Genius! I have more TV episodes than songs!

[Vandam500]

Speed under Windows is absolutely terrible. I half think they do it to put people off Windows.

It really is. I don't understand how it is so slow? It's a lag festival. Hopefully this update will fix that

[Mykbibby]

TV Shows, Movies Genius is excellent... for some reason I never thought about it, but now I really like it! I could definitely use it...

Now for iTunes Replay...

[macrockbuddy]

I'm terrible, every time Apple releases something new, I want it!!! Here's to the new iTunes

[robindahlia789]

finally mac rumors put up some new posts!

[Povilas]

Who, no what votes negative on software release? Jesus ...

[pit29]

so, who of us is going to get it first? :rolleyes:

[rikers_mailbox]

... expansion of the Genius feature to include movies and TV shows...

Saw this one coming a mile away. Watch for it on an AppleTV near you.

[ChrisA]

I have a 245GB iTunes library. Mostly it is CDs ripped to Apple Losses. about 12,000 tracks. iTunes is not slow at all on my 24" iMac. The library lives on a 1TB Segate disk connected via FW800. I can scroll through the entire library about as fast as I can move the mouse. searches for a composer or band have zero lag time. hard to see how it could be faster.

[Povilas]

I have a 245GB iTunes library. Mostly it is CDs ripped to Apple Losses. about 12,000 tracks. iTunes is not slow at all on my 24" iMac. The library lives on a 1TB Segate disk connected via FW800. I can scroll through the entire library about as fast as I can move the mouse. searches for a composer or band have zero lag time. hard to see how it could be faster.

Same for me. ~170 GB of Movies and Music - everything smooth.

[rikers_mailbox]

I have a 245GB iTunes library. Mostly it is CDs ripped to Apple Losses. about 12,000 tracks. iTunes is not slow at all on my 24" iMac. The library lives on a 1TB Segate disk connected via FW800. I can scroll through the entire library about as fast as I can move the mouse. searches for a composer or band have zero lag time. hard to see how it could be faster.

Speeds up library *load* times ... not browsing.

[sundayx]

I seriously doubt there will be performance improvements on the PC version, but thats just me, right?

[Melan]

Hoping they include semicircles for partially listened to podcasts/tv shows etc as seen on the ipod touch.

[sharp65]

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I couldnt care less what they add as long as they make the windows client usable.

[talkingfuture]

If they're expanding genius, a genius suggestions system for new podcasts to try would be good.

[alexbates]

I can't wait for a speed boost. The iTunes store has always seemed slow loading for some reason.

[Ade-iMac-177]

Sweet news on speed boost!

My computer is not exactly slow or low on memory (MBP with 4GB of RAM) but i find that when i plug in the iPhone or iPod while playing a video the video freezes for about 10 seconds.

[Sky Blue]

I hope Apple TV gets an update for the TV/Movies genius. That'd be grand.

[SkippyThorson]

They need to fix browsing the Applications. Slow as all get out. Slow to load, slow to scroll, slow to hit a letter and jump. Horrible all around. I sigh whenever I accidentally click on it - I dread the Applications section. :(

[DivineEvil]

I'd prefer with iTunes 8.1 to come a fix for the ipod "Compilations/Various Artists" and the Same name albums merging bugs... than movie genues...

[Kilamite]

Genius for TV Shows would be awesome!

Especially on the Apple TV - sit back, select an episode of Family Guy or something and enjoy..

[Sky Blue]

It looks like the TV/Movies thing is suggesting content rather than making playlists. :(

[TheCheapGeek]

TV Show genius is pretty cool, but the question is will it work with user added content like music or only iTunes store purchased videos?

[quasan]

import as itunes plus ... mmh this sentence makes me suspicious... does it mean that imported tracks will get a watermark "just like the itunes plus" files mmh we will see?

[Melan]

Good to see autofill coming to all ipods at last! I don't think most don't know about smart playlists, no doubt some frustration there.

[RichardI]

I hope they clean up the interface a bit. I find it to be cluttered and confusing. It kind of looks like a Windows screen :eek:.

Rich :cool:

[Sehnsucht]

Speed under Windows is absolutely terrible. I half think they do it to put people off Windows.

As if Windows needed any help. :rolleyes: :D :D :D

[Winni]

And will this finally add the feature that I can copy --any-- mp3 file (read: a file that I have not bought from the iTunes store) from --my-- iPod to --any-- of --my-- computers? Something tells me that iTunes will remain the same pile of DRM dung as before.

[motulist]

Speed improvements - hallelujah! iTunes is a friggen boulder that weighs my computer's performance down to unusable. I only open iTunes when I absolutely have to, and close it immediately after that necessary task has completed. iTunes is a slow, resource hungry, hunk of junk. Hopefully these speed improvements are very significant.

[Becordial]

TV Show genius is pretty cool, but the question is will it work with user added content like music or only iTunes store purchased videos?

This is a good question. I havent used music genius much so far, but I think it picks up all music on the machine, so hopefully this extends to vid as well.

Love the idea of 'no-thinking' TV watching. Sometimes, after a long day, that's exactly what you want. One or two clicks and relax with whatever sensible (or not) vid pops up!

[wilburpan]

I have a 245GB iTunes library. Mostly it is CDs ripped to Apple Losses. about 12,000 tracks. iTunes is not slow at all on my 24" iMac. The library lives on a 1TB Segate disk connected via FW800. I can scroll through the entire library about as fast as I can move the mouse. searches for a composer or band have zero lag time. hard to see how it could be faster.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have more tracks than this in an iTunes library? Personally, I'm just interested in music tracks.

[scooterbaga]

Are we going to have to disable genre browsing through the terminal again?

-What I want them to speed up is initial startup of video playback and making tag changes. When you've got a lot of smart playlists those tag changes can really bog things down. Don't get me started on the video startup crap...

[AWalkerStudios]

And will this finally add the feature that I can copy --any-- mp3 file (read: a file that I have not bought from the iTunes store) from --my-- iPod to --any-- of --my-- computers? Something tells me that iTunes will remain the same pile of DRM dung as before.

You can already do that. Hell, I do it about ten times a day. Just drag the song out of iTunes to your desktop, bam you have an mp3 file you can email to anyone or put anywhere. Or do you mean plug your iPod into another computer and drag songs off of there?

[pit29]

No one commenting on the new visualizer? It's above speed improvements on Apple's page, so it's more important ;)

[lunarworks]

Odd thing, to say "Coming Soon". Apple doesn't like doing that. They prefer to spring things on the public when they're ready, or at least ready to download.

[Spades]

Love the idea of 'no-thinking' TV watching. Sometimes, after a long day, that's exactly what you want. One or two clicks and relax with whatever sensible (or not) vid pops up!

Isn't that called YouTube? :D

[Felder71]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have more tracks than this in an iTunes library? Personally, I'm just interested in music tracks.

I have about 15,000 tracks (only 50 GB) and it runs pretty good on my iMac 24" 2.8 GHz. Cover Flow can bog it down since I have hi-res artwork. But normal lists are speedy as can be and searching is instant. But I have all kinds of syncing issues with my Touch that make it crash and require a restore every month or so, so I'm hoping that these "syncing speed" improvements have some sort of impact.

[scooterbaga]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have more tracks than this in an iTunes library? Personally, I'm just interested in music tracks.

I've got about 3 or 4 times that, not including hundreds of movies/videos. Library startup just isn't that bad. It's smart playlists and tag changes that kill it.

[Kilamite]

TV Show genius is pretty cool, but the question is will it work with user added content like music or only iTunes store purchased videos?

It'll work with user content, but you'll have to make sure it is tagged properly (TV Show/Episode Name) to get it to work properly I guess.

[Jason S.]

Just a small thing I noticed...

Looks like Party Shuffle is now called iTunes DJ. I wonder if the functionality has changed any; probably not.

[dashiel]

grrr. i was really hoping they would introduce hd-aac (http://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/EN/bf/amm/projects/lossless/) it's such a pain managing two libraries - one for my phone and one for listening on my home equipment.

[astrofoo]

About the only feature I want out of iTunes is better management over multiple hard drives.

I like letting iTunes control my file location because it's not in some crazy database.itunes package like iPhoto but I would like to have a little control like all my music on my local HDD and all my videos on my external HDD.

[dr_lha]

No one commenting on the new visualizer? It's above speed improvements on Apple's page, so it's more important ;)
The new visualizer is in the current 8.0 version of iTunes, so its old news.

[muzzymate]

Folder monitoring? Because every other fraking media program can? Probably not!

[motulist]

file location because it's not in some crazy database.itunes package like iPhoto

You're incorrect about this. iPhoto does not keep your photos in a single database package file, the photos live individually in normal hierarchical finder folders just like every other regular files on your disk.

[pcorajr]

How about a new interface and better way to view all of you play list, The right side of itunes needs some organization.

[diamond.g]

You're incorrect about this. iPhoto does not keep your photos in a single database package file, the photos live in normal hierarchical finder folders just like every other regular files on your disk.

Did they change it back. In iPhoto 08 everything is in a package (that you can browse the contents of) but initially it shows up as one file.

[distortedloop]

I wonder if the new iTunes will take more steps to break our jailbreaking.

The new features are interesting, but less important to me than some of my Cydia apps.

[Melan]

About the only feature I want out of iTunes is better management over multiple hard drives.

I like letting iTunes control my file location because it's not in some crazy database.itunes package like iPhoto but I would like to have a little control like all my music on my local HDD and all my videos on my external HDD.

Seconded. Would be wonderful if you could just click a 'store file on external drive' button at which point they would appear available as normal when the drive's plugged in and be greyed out with an icon/disappear altogether when it's not. The lack of that support pretty much guarantees I'll never be attracted to buying TV shows or using itunes to watch any video. Perhaps they're holding out for the mass-adoption of cloud storage.

[diamond.g]

Folder monitoring? Because every other fraking media program can? Probably not!

Apple has the ability (smart folders), but that isn't their style.

[GottaLoveApple4]

About the only feature I want out of iTunes is better management over multiple hard drives.

I like letting iTunes control my file location because it's not in some crazy database.itunes package like iPhoto but I would like to have a little control like all my music on my local HDD and all my videos on my external HDD.

I do this all the time already. Just keep all your music on your local HDD and consolidate in itunes so it organizes it. And then in preferences turn off copy to itunes music folder and repeat for movies/videos. Then you can turn copy to itunes music folder back on if you want and itunes remembers where the videos are without moving them around. I do this on my TC and it works perfectly, especially for streaming to my :apple:TV too.

[Dagless]

finally mac rumors put up some new posts!

Your beef is with Apple not with Macrumors.

[MrCasual]

Ok, I like the new features in 8.1, But I still would like to know why on earth can't iTunes automatically resync my music Folder(s). This is version 8 yet If I tell iTunes to pull my music from this folder it still cannot auto resync and add the newly added songs to my library. I have to manual add the folder again to get the update or add them manually. iTunes is still brain dead..OR am I just doing something wrong?

[distortedloop]

You're incorrect about this. iPhoto does not keep your photos in a single database package file, the photos live individually in normal hierarchical finder folders just like every other regular files on your disk.

No, you are incorrect about this. iPhoto does keep all your photos in a single package. You can open the package in Finder and view it in its hierarchical folder structure by right-clicking on it and selecting view package contents from the context menu, but Finder will not display it as such under normal circumstances. You can drill down with Terminal like it's normal folders, so maybe it's just semantics and you are correct on that level, but the packaging method allows for indexing and cacheing that "normal" folders don't have beyond Spotlight.

Did they change it back. In iPhoto 08 everything is in a package (that you can browse the contents of) but initially it shows up as one file.

No, they did not change it back...

[Peace]

I'm guessing the Windows version of iTunes 8.1 will have the same glass theme that Safari 4.0 has.

[nemaslov]

Great about a speedier update but there are many of us who wish Apple would finally release a 240GB classic. The drives are out there now. And for those who say who needs it, there many many music freaks, DJs, restaurants and so on who want our entire collections with us.

[optophobia]

Did they change it back. In iPhoto 08 everything is in a package (that you can browse the contents of) but initially it shows up as one file.

you can still find the photos / music in folders on your hard drive without using itunes / iphoto, and always have been able to.

[evilspoons]

Speed is seriously needed on the Windows side of things. I switched my library over to my Mac laptop from my Windows desktop because iTunes was getting unmanageably slow on my not-slow-at-all computer. 20,000 song library, about 110 GB. It took a hefty chunk out of my MBP's leftover hard drive space, but the amount of frustration I've saved has been worth it.

The one feature I'd like to see is a change in the 'show duplicates' function. When you're showing duplicates, you can search (filter) the current view as usual. I'd like it to give you the option to show duplicates for anything that matches the filter, i.e.:

I have a bunch of compilations, but I also have some of the songs on the original albums. I don't need two copies of the song, so I go 'show duplicates', then search for the name of the compilation. Currently, this just shows the songs from said compilation. I'd like it to list all the songs it thinks are duplicates of these compilation songs, even though they don't have the compilation's name anywhere in their tags - that way I can compare them (bit rate, length, etc) instead of just blindly accepting that iTunes thinks they're duplicates.

[avionicsman]

get the shuffle, can't use until 8.1 is released. Looking forward to the iTunes updates though. :)

[izzle22]

I just wish my Genius feature would start working again! About 2 months ago it would get half way through the update process and would say network timeout.

[ShavenYak]

And will this finally add the feature that I can copy --any-- mp3 file (read: a file that I have not bought from the iTunes store) from --my-- iPod to --any-- of --my-- computers? Something tells me that iTunes will remain the same pile of DRM dung as before.

The inability to copy an mp3 file off an iPod (without third-party software) has nothing to do with DRM. Granted, having the iPod seen as a device that made piracy easy probably would not have helped Apple in their negotiations with music studios to start the iTunes Music Store, but it's really more to do with the fact that Apple only planned for one-way computer-to-iPod synchronization to make things simple.

If you use mp3 files - or even m4a files - and don't buy anything from the store (except iTunes Plus songs), then there's no DRM. If you think iTunes is a pile of dung for other reasons, okay, but DRM isn't the problem there.

[Yvan256]

import as itunes plus ... mmh this sentence makes me suspicious... does it mean that imported tracks will get a watermark "just like the itunes plus" files mmh we will see?

Import a file today as AAC 256kbps. After the update, import it again under a different filename. Then compare the two.

[devburke]

The inability to copy an mp3 file off an iPod (without third-party software) has nothing to do with DRM. Granted, having the iPod seen as a device that made piracy easy probably would not have helped Apple in their negotiations with music studios to start the iTunes Music Store, but it's really more to do with the fact that Apple only planned for one-way computer-to-iPod synchronization to make things simple.

If you use mp3 files - or even m4a files - and don't buy anything from the store (except iTunes Plus songs), then there's no DRM. If you think iTunes is a pile of dung for other reasons, okay, but DRM isn't the problem there.

Didn't the iTunes Store start selling all their songs without DRM recently?

Although I have a couple iTMS tracks that I got with a gift card, but altered the tags a little to fit my library better, and now the iTunes Store doesn't give me an option to upgrade them :-(

[emt1]

Didn't the iTunes Store start selling all their songs without DRM recently?

Although I have a couple iTMS tracks that I got with a gift card, but altered the tags a little to fit my library better, and now the iTunes Store doesn't give me an option to upgrade them :-(

Altering the tags wouldn't affect this. Upgrades are listed based on past purchases, regardless of whether or not they are still in your library.

[yorkshire]

I'm all for a speed boost. Even on the mac, iTunes is slow.

[devburke]

Altering the tags wouldn't affect this. Upgrades are listed based on past purchases, regardless of whether or not they are still in your library.

That's what I would think, but trust me, there is no upgrade offered, although the songs are now in the store as iTunes Plus tracks. It could have something to do with me restoring from Time Machine too, iTunes wasn't able to find the album art after that happened, so I had to do it manually, which was my first clue that iTunes wasn't recognizing the track for what it was.

[devburke]

I'm all for a speed boost. Even on the mac, iTunes is slow.

It usually runs pretty fast for me, but startup is sloooow, and it's a memory hog. Also, does anyone else have trouble with video podcasts locking when when scrubbing or switching out of fullscreen?

[Kid A]

Import a file today as AAC 256kbps. After the update, import it again under a different filename. Then compare the two.

The first thing I wondered was, I can import CDs as 256kbps AAC now, can't I? So in the context of this update, what do they mean by "import CDs as iTunes Plus" being a "new feature"? New name, same thing, no? If that is the case, how is this a new feature?

[I import everything as 320kbps MP3 (is this bad? please don't tell me it is), so I'm clueless as to any possible nuances regarding CD-to-AAC.]

Do AAC-imported CD tracks currently have DRM?

[devburke]

Altering the tags wouldn't affect this. Upgrades are listed based on past purchases, regardless of whether or not they are still in your library.

Actually now that I think about it, I also have some DRM tracks that I got for free from Lollapalooza, and I'm not being offered upgrades for those either. Maybe I'm missing something? Aren't the upgrades supposed to be offered on the right side of the main page in the store?

[IT-Pro]

It seems like the iTunes 8.1 update will be available very shortly. Apple has already pushed a new version of the Remote iPhone application to fix compatibility with iTunes 8.1. "Soon" sounds like today to me.

[devburke]

It seems like the iTunes 8.1 update will be available very shortly. Apple has already pushed a new version of the Remote iPhone application to fix compatibility with iTunes 8.1. "Soon" sounds like today to me.

Does it have Party Shuffle (or "iTunes DJ") compatibility yet?? That'd be awesome

EDIT: ::sigh:: No...

[Pooshka]

Tutorial on how to automatically import music as 256-kbps iTunes Plus files??? Gimme a break. I already automatically import it as 320-kbps AAC files. Which one is better? Obviously the latter. Duh!

[liam5150]

And will this finally add the feature that I can copy --any-- mp3 file (read: a file that I have not bought from the iTunes store) from --my-- iPod to --any-- of --my-- computers? Something tells me that iTunes will remain the same pile of DRM dung as before.

It already does that... I haven't buy anything from iTunes and have my iPod full of music.

[lunarworks]

The first thing I wondered was, I can import CDs as 256kbps AAC now, can't I? So in the context of this update, what do they mean by "import CDs as iTunes Plus" being a "new feature"? New name, same thing, no? If that is the case, how is this a new feature?
I'm guessing that most people aren't even aware that they're capable of importing music at a higher quality than the default.

[devburke]

It already does that... I haven't buy anything from iTunes and have my iPod full of music.

That's the other way around. You're talking about computer to iPod, he's talking about iPod to computer

[IT-Pro]

Does it have Party Shuffle (or "iTunes DJ") compatibility yet?? That'd be awesome
Not that I'm aware of. Playlists isn't showing Party shuffle or whatever they name it. Might be introduced by connecting with iTunes 8.1, but frankly I doubt it.

[dannyboi83]

It would be nice if they could fix the compatibility with Vista Ultimate. It is annoying having to run as administrator every time I want to buy something from itunes on Ultimate.

Would also be nice if they changed the windows app to fit in with vista, like they have with Safari 4, but I doubt it very much.

[liam5150]

That's the other way around. You're talking about computer to iPod, he's talking about iPod to computer

You're right. Sorry.
Senuti anyone? :D

[Becordial]

Isn't that called YouTube? :D

Yeah true, except I keep getting the Ninja Cat video on YT and it freaks me out every time! :D

[zakfox1986]

Is it just me or is the Genius feature not all it's cracked up to be? I just don't find it all that useful. Maybe I'm missing the point somehow.:confused::rolleyes:

[BaldiMac]

And will this finally add the feature that I can copy --any-- mp3 file (read: a file that I have not bought from the iTunes store) from --my-- iPod to --any-- of --my-- computers? Something tells me that iTunes will remain the same pile of DRM dung as before.

First, as pointed out earlier, this issue has nothing to do with DRM. Second, there are a ton of programs that allow you to do it.

No, you are incorrect about this. iPhoto does keep all your photos in a single package. You can open the package in Finder and view it in its hierarchical folder structure by right-clicking on it and selecting view package contents from the context menu, but Finder will not display it as such under normal circumstances. You can drill down with Terminal like it's normal folders, so maybe it's just semantics and you are correct on that level, but the packaging method allows for indexing and cacheing that "normal" folders don't have beyond Spotlight.

No, they did not change it back...

I think the point was that the actual photos are not in a database. Just inside normal folders in a package. The original poster was worried that they were in "some crazy database.itunes package like iPhoto."

[mazola]

Based on new screenshots scattered throughout the iTunes pages, the iTunes "Party Shuffle" feature has apparently been renamed "iTunes DJ".


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!

:mad:

[AWalkerStudios]

No one commenting on the new visualizer? It's above speed improvements on Apple's page, so it's more important ;)

The visualizer was new in 8.0. We're talking about 8.1. If you're running the latest iTunes then you already have that new visualizer.

[Kid A]

I'm guessing that most people aren't even aware that they're capable of importing music at a higher quality than the default.

Excellent point. But would someone (part of your "most people") who is currently not aware of that, all-of-the-sudden CARE about it today...?

To answer my own question: ...Perhaps, maybe, just becuase it's like "Oooh Plus! I can have my CDs import Plus now? Plus sounds good. I'm'a click that!"

Still, I'm wondering if there is anything truly "new" about this feature... or if Apple is just being cheesy and recasting a current feature as a "new" one.

[SHIVERINGGOAT]

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I have a 245GB iTunes library. Mostly it is CDs ripped to Apple Losses. about 12,000 tracks. iTunes is not slow at all on my 24" iMac. The library lives on a 1TB Segate disk connected via FW800. I can scroll through the entire library about as fast as I can move the mouse. searches for a composer or band have zero lag time. hard to see how it could be faster.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have more tracks than this in an iTunes library? Personally, I'm just interested in music tracks.

I have 26,400 tracks in iTunes - 650 films 490 TV shows total size 1.5TB all pretty fast from FireWire Drobo :)

[tkermit]

Love the idea of 'no-thinking' TV watching. Sometimes, after a long day, that's exactly what you want. One or two clicks and relax with whatever sensible (or not) vid pops up!

Yes - because that's what TV needs: less thinking. ;)

[Porchland]

This is way minor, but I'm hoping for better navigation in Complete My Album. I have 454 albums available, and all I can do is rank them various ways and hit "More."

[joseph2166]

Is it just me or is the Genius feature not all it's cracked up to be? I just don't find it all that useful. Maybe I'm missing the point somehow.:confused::rolleyes:

Personally, I find it useful - found a few good things off the store with it (as well as being an easy way of seeing if an artist as brought out anything I haven't got). I also use the genius playlist quite a bit when I'm not in the mood for the randomness of shuffle. Not that it's perfect in this regard of course.

[Daeveed]

Does anybody know if they will fix the Airtunes problem????

It's so annoying when the songs cut out all the time.

[devburke]

You're right. Sorry.
Senuti anyone? :D

I used to LOVE Senuti.

Back when it was free :(

[devburke]

Is it just me or is the Genius feature not all it's cracked up to be? I just don't find it all that useful. Maybe I'm missing the point somehow.:confused::rolleyes:

I don't use it very often, but sometimes I'm really really in the mood for a specific song, but I don't wanna listen to the same thing over and over again, so I see what Genius comes up with to go along with it. But usually I don't use it.

[SHIVERINGGOAT]

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Apple Remote for iPhone and touch has just been updated in apps store ready for 8.1

[jhsfosho]

An iTunes update is always a good thing as far as I'm concerned. And I'd assume that the speed boosts will be more prominent for older computers, like G4's.

[yoshinatsu]

Well... when exactly is "soon"? :rolleyes:

[arkmannj]

Requiem ?

[Some_Big_Spoon]

33,000+ tracks, 1200 movies, 3500+ TV Shows, various applications and Podcasts, 3.5TB of data in all on an external FW 800 array. iTunes startup is slow, which is to be expected, but browsing, playing, streaming is ok. Still a little pokey, even on a fast machine with a local library, though.

With a library as big as mine, I'm still hoping for some kind of "sync" feature that lets me take a subset of my library with my on my Air, like I do with my iPhone. Would make it easier than having duped tracks and libraries - pretty annoying - Damn RIAA.

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I have 26,400 tracks in iTunes - 650 films 490 TV shows total size 1.5TB all pretty fast from FireWire Drobo :)

[Sky Blue]

I wonder if the speed improvements stop the re-drawing of cover art in the icon view.

be nice to have some more options for this view.

[smartalic34]

Well... when exactly is "soon"? :rolleyes:

I think the new shuffle is going to be available Thursday, so I would expect a release later today or tomorrow...

iTunes has gotten so bloated lately; I hope this "speed boost" is noticeable...

[arkitect]

Is it just me or is the Genius feature not all it's cracked up to be? I just don't find it all that useful. Maybe I'm missing the point somehow.:confused::rolleyes:

No, I don't think you're alone…

I have had very limted success with "Genius" — it only works for me with tracks I have purchased from iTunes. (Maybe that is how it works? :o)

Although I suspect my music tastes have a lot to do with that.
:D

[DUCKofD3ATH]

I have a 245GB iTunes library. Mostly it is CDs ripped to Apple Losses. about 12,000 tracks. iTunes is not slow at all on my 24" iMac. The library lives on a 1TB Segate disk connected via FW800. I can scroll through the entire library about as fast as I can move the mouse. searches for a composer or band have zero lag time. hard to see how it could be faster.

Scrolling isn't the problem I have, it's updating simple things, like checking and unchecking a TV Show, every time I do that it takes iTunes 10 seconds to make the change. I have a large library (60K songs, 800 audiobooks and 1.5K TV shows) and an obsolete but serviceable Mac Pro 2.7 GHz DP G5 with 4.5 GB RAM, but even so, iTunes shouldn't be that slow. I welcome a faster version, I just hope they also fixed that problem with playing video that causes initial playback to freeze for 20 seconds.

[Master Chief]

This iTunes update (the back-end of it) will probably also close the gift certificate loop hole, I hope it does, but that's just me of course.

[scooterbaga]

nevermind... someone beat me to it...

[AliensAreFuzzy]

Maybe this will finally fix the graphics issues that I've been having. Plus TV genius is great, I have 2400 episodes and I could use a better way to choose an episode to watch.

[mzd]

No, I don't think you're alone…

I have had very limted success with "Genius" — it only works for me with tracks I have purchased from iTunes. (Maybe that is how it works? :o)

Although I suspect my music tastes have a lot to do with that.
:D

the tracks just have to be available in the iTunes store for Genius - you don't have to have purchased them.
but yes, it doesn't work with more obscure music. fortunately, iTunes is always adding more content.

[kainjow]

iTunes is one of the worst applications I use. Looking forward to some improvements.

I wonder if they're going to port it over to Cocoa?

[Turmoil]

I have a 245GB iTunes library. Mostly it is CDs ripped to Apple Losses. about 12,000 tracks. iTunes is not slow at all on my 24" iMac. The library lives on a 1TB Segate disk connected via FW800. I can scroll through the entire library about as fast as I can move the mouse. searches for a composer or band have zero lag time. hard to see how it could be faster.

I also have a very large libary and don't see any slowing while running the program on my mac-mini. It can take a very long time to load and to quit.

[martformac]

Is it me or does it seem like it is "Genius" that slows down iTunes?

[emulator]

I just wish my Genius feature would start working again! About 2 months ago it would get half way through the update process and would say network timeout.
it was the 1st thing I turned off. maybe it's useful for people who just don't have that touch what's needed to find good music?!? like people, who listen to music on radio and think their taste is top notch.

i'm waiting for the speed boost as well but don't think it's gonna happen. itunes is such a hog, one of the worst media player around. too bad it can't be avoided with the app store. :(

[rhett7660]

Is it me or does it seem like it is "Genius" that slows down iTunes?

You are not alone on this. I turned it off. Way to slow! Looking forward to this update.

[devburke]

it was the 1st thing I turned off. maybe it's useful for people who just don't have that touch what's needed to find good music?!? like people, who listen to music on radio and think their taste is top notch.

i'm waiting for the speed boost as well but don't think it's gonna happen. itunes is such a hog, one of the worst media player around. too bad it can't be avoided with the app store. :(

Sounds like you're only talking about the Genius Sidebar, but I find Genius Playlists more useful

[TranceNW]

Just received an update for remote.app, maybe we will see 8.1 today?

[Eraserhead]

Is it me or does it seem like it is "Genius" that slows down iTunes?

iTunes has been slow on Windows for a long time... Hopefully it will be faster for Windows users now.

Note: I don't know about the performance of iTunes 8.x on either OS X or Windos as I've been travelling.

[Ade-iMac-177]

Hey!!!!!!!!
Apple has just updated the iTunes Store!!!!
They have changed the way it shows iTunes Plus albums!!!

It used to say it in words as with the icon which was below the price!!

C'mon 8.1!!!!!

[Lesser Evets]

But will it allow full screen on only ONE display without blacking the other one?

Probably not.

The most moronic thing about iTunes as far as I am concerned.

[TheSpaz]

I can't believe Apple themselves put up specs on something before it's released. That's almost unheard of in Apple-land.

[Turmoil]

Great about a speedier update but there are many of us who wish Apple would finally release a 240GB classic. The drives are out there now. And for those who say who needs it, there many many music freaks, DJs, restaurants and so on who want our entire collections with us.

I'd be pretty tempted to snag one of those and I really don't need it. But I would probably buy one anyway :-)

[Sky Blue]

I can't believe Apple themselves put up specs on something before it's released. That's almost unheard of in Apple-land.

Yeah, it's weird, especially as it seems it will be out soon.

[Eraserhead]

But will it allow full screen on only ONE display without blacking the other one?

Probably not.

The most moronic thing about iTunes as far as I am concerned.

If its not fixed, report it to bugreport.apple.com

[Lesser Evets]

If not, report it to bugreport.apple.com

Thanks.

I already have about a dozen times in the past 3 years.

[MistaBungle]

In regards to posting the specs beforehand, it's usually not good. Specs were dropped from Leopard (fast-user switching between OS's) after they were posted.

Although, iTunes is a totally different animal but still they've done it before.

[DS Flyer]

I think the new shuffle is going to be available Thursday, so I would expect a release later today or tomorrow...

iTunes has gotten so bloated lately; I hope this "speed boost" is noticeable...

Agreed!

[Pwned]

Remote app for the iphone has released an update and it says it's for itunes 8.1!

[Turmoil]

Is it just me or is the Genius feature not all it's cracked up to be? I just don't find it all that useful. Maybe I'm missing the point somehow.:confused::rolleyes:

I love it. Seems to work best for large libaries. I have 20 years worth of music collecting, it's nice to select one song and let the computer put together a play list based on it. Not world peace, but it amuses me.

[easy4lif]

I'm concerned about the iTunes plus feature. Does this mean that when you import the metadata will add the name of who burned the CD as well. I already import at 256 ACC quality, whats the difference between that and itunes Plus quality?

[andi242]

Remote app for the iphone has released an update and it says it's for itunes 8.1!

confirmed for the german itunes store ;)

[Jetson]

I love iTunes but it has grown into bloatware over the years.

Generally it runs pretty fast, but on startup, syncing and shutdown iTunes takes a long time.

[TheYankees1903]

I just checked all of the posts on this forum and no one said this... I feel I have a good point and would appreciate it if you told me what you thought of it...

Since iTunes 8.1 brings faster syncing and the TV Show and Movie Genius feature don't you think there will be a new iPhone firmware out very soon?

I mean if there is it may or may not be to support the new coding for the faster syncing and TV Show and Movie Genius features to the iPhone (especially since the iPhone doesn't support TV Show and Movie purchases) but it could make sense. They have not released a new firmware in over a month (yes it is not a very long time but still nearing the average amount of time for a release) and maybe this would be a good time.

Also if that March 24th date for software is to be trusted (even though I am not to sure) who said it could only be Mac software? They could put the iPhone into the spotlight as well... Really show the commitment to the iPhone OS X platform.

Think about it... They could show off Slingbox for iPhone a HUGE step for the platform (and SlingMedia has said they are going to submit to Apple during Q1 - perfect timing), and a few other cool apps. Maybe the Need For Speed game, Recognize ngmoco:)'s hard work by showing off something new from them and what not... Why not?

To take the thought full circle they could also potentially show off iPhone Software 3.0 for the new iPhone. They do not have to announce the new iPhone (save it for WWDC '09) but get the beta firmware and beta SDK into developer's hands. Let the new iPhone reach its full potential out of the box on day one... And when they show off more App Store Apps at WWDC (which let's face it - if last year is any indication there will be more than enough :rolleyes:) they will have AMAZING apps to show off.

Anyway what do you guys think?

Let Me Know,
TheYankees1903 :apple:

[Jetson]

I hope that Apple would finally provide more options for printing cover art.

It would be nice to be able to control fonts, font size, and include other tags such as date, composer, etc.

What we have now is nice, but limited.

[Pwned]

I love iTunes but it has grown into bloatware over the years.

Generally it runs pretty fast, but on startup, syncing and shutdown iTunes takes a long time.

Completely agree.

[kmcrawford]

I hope Apple TV gets an update for the TV/Movies genius. That'd be grand.

I agree.. I'd love to have this feature to recommend movies to me that I already own.

[roger6106]

But will it allow full screen on only ONE display without blacking the other one?

Probably not.

The most moronic thing about iTunes as far as I am concerned.

I wish they'd hurry up with this fix. Old versions of Windows Media Player had this same problem, but they seem to have beaten Apple to fixing it.

[Pwned]

I just thought of something and would appreciate feedback. Do you think it would be nice if Apple included lyrics for the songs you download? If you have used iheartradio you get that option while listening to a radio station but I think it would be cool to have that included in your downloads, thoughts?

[rockstarjoe]

I wonder if we'll get a Frontrow update too? Lord knows it needs one.

[izzle22]

I'm concerned about the iTunes plus feature. Does this mean that when you import the metadata will add the name of who burned the CD as well. I already import at 256 ACC quality, whats the difference between that and itunes Plus quality?

No. All it means is the default import bit rate will be 256 ACC. You already import at 256 so don't worry about it. This in no way means the songs will be tagged any other way.

[apfhex]

I already import at 256 ACC quality, whats the difference between that and itunes Plus quality?
Unless they've re-written their encoder to make higher quality 256kbps files or something magical, I don't see how they could possibly be touting this as a new feature. :confused:

[izzle22]

Unless they've re-written their encoder to make higher quality 256kbps files or something magical, I don't see how they could possibly be touting this as a new feature. :confused:

It's a new feature because it will now import cds by default at 256 instead of 128. I got it the first time I read it why is this such an issue and so hard for everyone to understand?

[JavierP]

I wonder if we'll get a Frontrow update too? Lord knows it needs one.

Yes, it's the only application that completly crashes my Macbook pro (when playing songs with long names). But I don't care, I'm using Plex now.

[TheYankees1903]

It's a new feature because it will now import cds by default at 256 instead of 128. I got it the first time I read it why is this such an issue and so hard for everyone to understand?

I got it the first time as well... Fairy simple concept :rolleyes:... But let's mot forget that this thread was created for learning (amongst other things). If people have question's I encourage them to ask...

Either way while this isn't a breakthrough it is a cool feature. Anything that helps my music sound like... well music to my ears... lol :D... is something that I am all for...

While I personally don't use CDs for music anymore I am sure there are tons of people who will utilize this feature... To each his own I suppose :).

All the best,
TheYankees1903 :apple:

[koh-kun]

Will there be a firmware update for the iPod/iPhones that comes with the new version of iTunes?

I also hate how iTunes automatically fills artist names and album names.
There are times that I don't want it to and it actually makes it impossible unless I copy paste from another application. Also, when I'm typing Japanese the autofill conflicts with the suggested conversion.

Hope that's fixed!

[TheYankees1903]

Will there be a firmware update for the iPod/iPhones that comes with the new version of iTunes?

I also hate how iTunes automatically fills artist names and album names.
There are times that I don't want it to and it actually makes it impossible unless I copy paste from another application. Also, when I'm typing Japanese the autofill conflicts with the suggested conversion.

Hope that's fixed!

Please read post number 131 in this forum... I gave my thoughts on this very topic... Please let me know what you think...

All The Best,
TheYankees1903 :apple:

[Xtremespirit319]

SOME TIME THIS WEEK APPLE!!!! C'mon....:mad:

[Analog Kid]

import as itunes plus ... mmh this sentence makes me suspicious... does it mean that imported tracks will get a watermark "just like the itunes plus" files mmh we will see?
That's the way I read it.

[diamond.g]

I have been meaning to ask this for a while. Is iTunes okay with using symbolic links? The idea being link off the TV Shows folder and the Movies folder to another location without ever telling iTunes.

[guzhogi]

It's a new feature because it will now import cds by default at 256 instead of 128. I got it the first time I read it why is this such an issue and so hard for everyone to understand?

I wouldn't say it's a NEW feature, rather a CHANGED feature since iTunes could always encode at 256.

[TheYankees1903]

SOME TIME THIS WEEK APPLE!!!! C'mon....:mad:

I couldn't agree more... Waiting quite impatiently while constantly running Software Update... :rolleyes:

Come On Apple,
TheYankees1903 :apple:

[Xtremespirit319]

I couldn't agree more... Waiting quite impatiently while constantly running Software Update... :rolleyes:

Come On Apple,
TheYankees1903 :apple:

Sad part is when you get laid off you read mac rumors more...so when I woke up at 12 today seeing the shuffle:eek:, which in my opinion might be a step in the wrong direction, I got all excited and now have nothing...:(....please apple just release it already...so I can be happy...oh and if its not too much release a new phone so the 3G doesn't tease me to death(Still own the 1G from the first day):):):):):)

[TheSpaz]

It's a new feature because it will now import cds by default at 256 instead of 128. I got it the first time I read it why is this such an issue and so hard for everyone to understand?

Where exactly does it say that this will be the default behavior? Also, how is making something default make it a new feature?

[TheSpaz]

Will someone please post in this thread when iTunes 8.1 comes out so that I don't miss it? I wanna help bring down Apple's servers ;)

[TheYankees1903]

Sad part is when you get laid off you read mac rumors more...so when I woke up at 12 today seeing the shuffle:eek:, which in my opinion might be a step in the wrong direction, I got all excited and now have nothing...:(....please apple just release it already...so I can be happy...oh and if its not too much release a new phone so the 3G doesn't tease me to death(Still own the 1G from the first day):):):):):)

Well I haven't been laid off but all the same I hear what you are saying... I think a lot of us here get exited by MacRumors news... I hope everything works out for you...

All The Best,
TheYankees1903 :apple:

[Sijmen]

Since when does Apple announce iTunes updates before they are out? Why would they?

[Xtremespirit319]

Since when does Apple announce iTunes updates before they are out? Why would they?

Since the became Job-Less....

[Sijmen]

Since the became Job-Less....

Apparently. This doesn't feel good. There were some things I wish Apple would do different but this somewhat confuses me.

[kainjow]

I also hate how iTunes automatically fills artist names and album names.
There are times that I don't want it to and it actually makes it impossible unless I copy paste from another application. Also, when I'm typing Japanese the autofill conflicts with the suggested conversion.

Hope that's fixed!

Preferences > General > "Automatically retrieve CD track names from the Internet"

Isn't that what you want?

[Dc.?]

The iPhone Remote control app has already been updated by :apple:.

[Xtremespirit319]

The iPhone Remote control app has already been updated by :apple:.

Now you'd think they would update iTunes....APPLE!:apple::apple::apple::apple::apple:

[Saladinos]

If they can make iTunes stop automatically expanding when I plug in my iPhone, that'll be enough. You can stop it on the Windows version, but not the Mac version for some reason.

The Windows iTunes also automatically converts WMA files.

[twoodcc]

alright. 8.1 sounds nice. looking forward to it!

[gibbz]

Since when does Apple announce iTunes updates before they are out? Why would they?

Since the became Job-Less....

Apparently. This doesn't feel good. There were some things I wish Apple would do different but this somewhat confuses me.

Who cares? Why wouldn't they? You can bet nothing is done at Apple without Jobs approval, medical leave or not.

It is iTunes. Do they not explain features of OS X before release? They apparently think the advances made in the leap from the current 8.0.x to 8.1 is worth telling people to make sure they download the software.

[Kid A]

Where exactly does it say that this will be the default behavior? Also, how is making something default make it a new feature?

Ditto on that. That would be called "new default setting", NOT "new feature". I'm sure default settings get changed all the time as software is improved and tweaked from version to version without being touted as a "new feature".

Next it'll be "New feature: No longer a universal binary". Oh wow, that's new. Must be a feature!

[gibbz]

Ditto on that. That would be called "new default setting", NOT "new feature". I'm sure default settings get changed all the time as software is improved and tweaked from version to version without being touted as a "new feature".

Next it'll be "New feature: No longer a universal binary". Oh wow, that's new. Must be a feature!

According to this thread's story, it says "Automatically import music from your CDs as higher quality, 256-Kbps iTunes Plus files."

Seems clear to me. People like the idea of higher quality music files downloaded in iTunes when they made the changes with iTunes Plus. Now they are simply saying, "Hey, you don't need to change anything, we'll import it automatically at iTunes Plus quality and you don't have to think about anything."

Like it or not, not everyone is as savvy as MR users. Some probably don't even know you can change import quality. They simply know how to import music by default. Apple is aiming their statement at them and not the advanced users. I don't see how Apple is overselling anything.

[izzle22]

Ditto on that. That would be called "new default setting", NOT "new feature". I'm sure default settings get changed all the time as software is improved and tweaked from version to version without being touted as a "new feature".

Next it'll be "New feature: No longer a universal binary". Oh wow, that's new. Must be a feature!

OMG! Why is everyone so bent out of shape and stuck on this little bit of wording? It doesn't even say new feature. It just says now import at iTunes plus, which is 256. Okay we'll find out soon enough. Can we move on to something else now?

[izzle22]

According to this thread's story, it says "Automatically import music from your CDs as higher quality, 256-Kbps iTunes Plus files."

Seems clear to me. People like the idea of higher quality music files downloaded in iTunes when they made the changes with iTunes Plus. Now they are simply saying, "Hey, you don't need to change anything, we'll import it automatically at iTunes Plus quality and you don't have to think about anything."

Like it or not, not everyone is as savvy as MR users. Some probably don't even know you can change import quality. They simply know how to import music by default. Apple is aiming their statement at them and not the advanced users. I don't see how Apple is overselling anything.

Thank You! That's what I've been trying to say you just said it much better.:D

[vrillusions]

"expansion of the Genius feature to include movies and TV shows"

That could be interesting if you have it make recommendations off a porn movie :eek:

[TheYankees1903]

I have been anxiously waiting but it may not come today...


"4GB1
Up to 1,000 songs
Ships: 3-5 business days
$79.00"

As this states the iPod Shuffle does not first ship for 3-5 business days. With this in mind they really do not NEED to ship it for at least 3 days... :mad:

I mean there is no product that DESPERATELY needs iTunes 8.1 immediately... They could wait a few days to release it and polish it in the meantime without consequence...

I truly hope I am wrong, and I very well may be, but it is possible... Lets hope not!!!!!

What Do You Guys Think?,
TheYankees1903 :apple:

P.S. What do you guys think about the new iPod Shuffle... I am not a big fan... Its design seems god awful from a usability standpoint... It looks so complicated to use...

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3458

[Saladinos]

I have been anxiously waiting but it may not come today...


"4GB1
Up to 1,000 songs
Ships: 3-5 business days
$79.00"

As this states the iPod Shuffle does not first ship for 3-5 business days. With this in mind they really do not NEED to ship it for at least 3 days... :mad:

I mean there is no product that DESPERATELY needs iTunes 8.1 immediately... They could wait a few days to release it and polish it in the meantime without consequence...

I truly hope I am wrong, and I very well may be, but it is possible... Lets hope not!!!!!

What Do You Guys Think?,
TheYankees1903 :apple:

P.S. What do you guys think about the new iPod Shuffle... I am not a big fan... Its design seems god awful from a usability standpoint... It looks so complicated to use...

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3458

Shipping software with as wide circulation as iTunes is not as simple as that. You can't just delay it for a bit and ship a build that feels right to one particular person. There's usually extensive testing required and updates are not announced until they are undergoing that process.

And as it happens, I like the new Shuffle. I've gotten used to the track skipping with my iPhone remote. All I need to learn on top of that is that I can hold the button to switch playlists. Sounds good to me.

[mrkgoo]

I have been anxiously waiting but it may not come today...


"4GB1
Up to 1,000 songs
Ships: 3-5 business days
$79.00"

As this states the iPod Shuffle does not first ship for 3-5 business days. With this in mind they really do not NEED to ship it for at least 3 days... :mad:

I mean there is no product that DESPERATELY needs iTunes 8.1 immediately... They could wait a few days to release it and polish it in the meantime without consequence...

I truly hope I am wrong, and I very well may be, but it is possible... Lets hope not!!!!!

What Do You Guys Think?,
TheYankees1903 :apple:

P.S. What do you guys think about the new iPod Shuffle... I am not a big fan... Its design seems god awful from a usability standpoint... It looks so complicated to use...

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3458

They would normally simply not announce it. By the sheer fact they are announcing it, I presume it won't come out for days at least.

[TheYankees1903]

They would normally simply not announce it. By the sheer fact they are announcing it, I presume it won't come out for days at least.

That's what I was afraid of,
TheYankees1903 :apple:

[William Tylko]

With this new feature, Voice Over, maybe their could be a new iPhone update so iPhones can have it. Gizmodo says that Voice Over is not a hardware thing.

[TheYankees1903]

Shipping software with as wide circulation as iTunes is not as simple as that. You can't just delay it for a bit and ship a build that feels right to one particular person. There's usually extensive testing required and updates are not announced until they are undergoing that process.

And as it happens, I like the new Shuffle. I've gotten used to the track skipping with my iPhone remote. All I need to learn on top of that is that I can hold the button to switch playlists. Sounds good to me.

If that's the case why not just release the software... While I normally would agree with you there seems to be something more going on here... If the product was announced it stands to logic the software for it would be out there...

As of now this is not the case... What is going on I do not know... I was simply trying to suggest a plausible explanation...

If you feel I am wrong what do you think is the reason for the delay?

I Suppose We Will Find Out Soon Enough,
TheYankees1903 :apple:

[TuffLuffJimmy]

TheYankees1903 :apple:

TheYankees1903 :apple:

TheYankees1903 :apple:

Well that's annoying...

[Chris Welch]

Well that's annoying...

What does it matter? It's basically the same as a signature. Perhaps you should follow the advice in yours.

[nemaslov]

I hope that Apple would finally provide more options for printing cover art.

It would be nice to be able to control fonts, font size, and include other tags such as date, composer, etc.

What we have now is nice, but limited.

I TOTALLY agree with this comment. Sometimes when I have a collection that fits one one disc (short songs) all of the titles do not fit/appear when printing. It will say something like 24 songs plus 6 more....and not list the titles of those final six. It would be pretty easy for them to design an interface to change text styles and sizes. Also sometimes when printing a multi image cover that samples a collection you've put together as a playlist, it brings up the wrong cover image even though yours is correct.

[haulis]

I just downloaded iTunes 8.1 on my netbook (Asus not apple :p) a second ago. I definitely is faster in the app store. I tried to download on my main machine and it pulled the 8.0 version...

[melllvar]

pics or it didnt happen + link ;)

[rhett7660]

Anyone else confirm if it is indeed out?

[haulis]

Link? :confused:

I got it straight from Apple's servers but I can't seems to get it again, I have the 32bit file though. It's 70MB.

[nickane]

I have been waiting for downsampling since iTunes 4!!!!!!!!! Why is no one talking about Autofill? That's the only news here. I'd have thought they'd have implemented that ages ago in order to help phase out the classic for the touch. Hopefully, you can choose 256kbps rather than 128 like the shuffle does, what with that now being the default setting.

[Sky Blue]

I have been waiting for downsampling since iTunes 4!!!!!!!!! Why is no one talking about Autofill? That's the only news here. I'd have thought they'd have implemented that ages ago in order to help phase out the classic for the touch. Hopefully, you can choose 256kbps rather than 128 like the shuffle does, what with that now being the default setting.

How is autofill downsampling?

[colonels1020]

I got it straight from Apple's servers but I can't seems to get it again, I have the 32bit file though. It's 70MB.

Wanna upload it to megaupload? :rolleyes:

[beyondonesmeans]

I hope the fix the problem that If you are storing movies/other content on a time capsule and it has spun down, iTunes says that it cannot find the content, especially if you are trying to update an iPod/iPhone/AppleTV. It drives me nuts that I have to manually spin up the drive by opening up a folder on it first.

[Xtremespirit319]

Link? :confused:

I think hes full of it...hes a newbie and has a join date of today....if you really have it post it here and prove me wrong kiddo:D

[GottaLoveApple4]

Did anyone see that they are changing the reviews to reflect each version number?? Pretty good idea!!

[Eric S.]

Didn't see this asked, apologize if it was: does anyone know if you can choose not to import CDs at 256kbps? Personally I can't hear the difference, and 256 takes twice as much disk space as 128, doesn't it?

[haulis]

I think hes full of it...hes a newbie and has a join date of today....if you really have it post it here and prove me wrong kiddo:D

Working on it smart guy :mad::p


Here you go doubters...32bit Windows version
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=72CUZNC0

[Xtremespirit319]

Did anyone see that they are changing the reviews to reflect each version number?? Pretty good idea!!

Thats kinda dumb....:confused:

[Sky Blue]

Didn't see this asked, apologize if it was: does anyone know if you can choose not to import CDs at 256kbps? Personally I can't hear the difference, and 256 takes twice as much disk space as 128, doesn't it?

I'm sure you can. They're just changing the default setting.

[Xtremespirit319]

Working on it smart guy :mad::p

Good I like being proven wrong lol...

[Yelmurc]

I'm still waiting for support for organizing PDFs. Having to have two separate Llbrary's is annoying.

[Arley23]

Does anybody think Apple is going to release iTunes 8.1 today?

[haulis]

Link in previous post ^

[Xtremespirit319]

I also see that its compatible with Windows 7 cause thats the OS ur using????

[TheYankees1903]

Did anyone see that they are changing the reviews to reflect each version number?? Pretty good idea!!

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=666041

Can we please direct conversation on this topic to the thread I created specifically for it?

Thanks,
TheYankees1903 :apple: <- My Signature ;)

[haulis]

I aslo it that its compatible with Windows 7 cause thats the OS ur using????

Works with windows 7 yes.

[Xtremespirit319]

Works with windows 7 yes.

Neato!!!:cool: Take that apple...

[guzhogi]

Didn't see this asked, apologize if it was: does anyone know if you can choose not to import CDs at 256kbps? Personally I can't hear the difference, and 256 takes twice as much disk space as 128, doesn't it?

You could do this already. Just go to Preferences > Import Settings…

[Chundles]

Does anybody think Apple is going to release iTunes 8.1 today?

I don't, the shuffles aren't shipping yet.

I hope they do because there's nothing I like more than new software but I don't think they will.

[Arley23]

Has anyone downloaded iTunes from the link yet?

[Xtremespirit319]

I don't, the shuffles aren't shipping yet.

I hope they do because there's nothing I like more than new software but I don't think they will.

Well correct me if I'm wrong (cause I truly don't know), but once they release the new shuffle today wouldn't it be in apple stores as of now where you shop hence meaning a need for it?:confused:

[Arley23]

Well correct me if I'm wrong (cause I truly don't know), but once they release the new shuffle today wouldn't it be in apple stores as of now where you shop hence meaning a need for it?:confused:

True!

[Sky Blue]

Did anyone see that they are changing the reviews to reflect each version number?? Pretty good idea!!

Finally!

[Xtremespirit319]

True!

Can anyone confirm me on that I'm just wondering

[ViViDboarder]

The Remote app for the iPhone just updated to accommodate 8.1. So it's probably eminent.

[tiguk]

The Remote app for the iPhone just updated to accommodate 8.1. So it's probably eminent.

I'd hope so. And imminent too! ;)

[timothyjay2004]

Well correct me if I'm wrong (cause I truly don't know), but once they release the new shuffle today wouldn't it be in apple stores as of now where you shop hence meaning a need for it?:confused:

Not necessarily. The online apple store states a shipping time of 3-5 days and the brick and mortar stores usually do not get them or release them before the online store does. I think iTunes 8.1 will officially come out on Thursday or Friday as it has in the past.

[Arley23]

Not necessarily. The online apple store states a shipping time of 3-5 days and the brick and mortar stores usually do not get them or release them before the online store does. I think iTunes 8.1 will officially come out on Thursday or Friday as it has in the past.

Mac Stores have the the new shuffle's here in the United States.

[Xtremespirit319]

Not necessarily. The online apple store states a shipping time of 3-5 days and the brick and mortar stores usually do not get them or release them before the online store does. I think iTunes 8.1 will officially come out on Thursday or Friday as it has in the past.

K I wasnt sure...if they are it would be pretty dumb to go home and be like well I can't use it now can I....LOL

[timothyjay2004]

Mac Stores have the the new shuffle's here in the United States.

That surprises me. They usually coordinate the release and shipping times to each other.

[Xtremespirit319]

That surprises me. They usually coordinate the release and shipping times to each other.

Though read what I wrote above Arley it wouldnt make any sense to release the shuffle without the software running

[jeronimogc]

The App. store just released Apple´s Remote App version 1.2.
on its release notes indicates "bug fixes and compatibility for iTunes 8.1"
(picture attached.)

[Arley23]

The App. store just released Apple´s Remote App version 1.2.
on its release notes indicates "bug fixes and compatibility for iTunes 8.1"
(picture attached.)

It means 8.1 must be released today!

[gibbz]

The App. store just released Apple´s Remote App version 1.2.
on its release notes indicates "bug fixes and compatibility for iTunes 8.1"
(picture attached.)

You are about 4 hours late (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/03/11/apples-remote-updated-for-itunes-8-1/)

[thejadedmonkey]

That surprises me. They usually coordinate the release and shipping times to each other.

How does a company as image conscious as Apple release a product that doesn't have software yet?

[timothyjay2004]

Very nice...Link?

He posted the download back on pg. 8 for windows 32bit ... nada for Mac OS X so far.

[Xtremespirit319]

He posted the download back on pg. 8 for windows 32bit ... nada for Mac OS X so far.

Man i really am blind today....:eek:

[Sky Blue]

The App. store just released Apple´s Remote App version 1.2.
on its release notes indicates "bug fixes and compatibility for iTunes 8.1"
(picture attached.)

Old news is old.

[TheSpaz]

I found the direct link to Mac OS X iTunes 8.0.2

http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iTunes8/061-5810.20081120.wm3n4/iTunes802.dmg

Anyone wanna figure out how to get 8.1 out of that?

[timothyjay2004]

I found the direct link to Mac OS X iTunes 8.0.2

http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iTunes8/061-5810.20081120.wm3n4/iTunes802.dmg

Anyone wanna figure out how to get 8.1 out of that?

LOL I've been trying to figure it out to no luck so far... changing 02 to 10 or 1 or .1 does not work .. nor does just having it be simply 8 only ... something has to be changed in the info before the /iTunesxxx.dmg

[thejadedmonkey]

I predict within the next 22 minutes, Apple developers aren't gonna wanna stay around after 5 ;)

[Xtremespirit319]

This iTunes DJ this is wicked cool...could be very productive for real djs

[devburke]

This iTunes DJ this is wicked cool...could be very productive for real djs

How is it different from Party Shuffle, for those of us who don't have it yet?

[Xtremespirit319]

How is it different from Party Shuffle, for those of us who don't have it yet?

OK let me get u screen shots....

[Arley23]

I predict within the next 22 minutes, Apple developers aren't gonna wanna stay around after 5 ;)

So your saying that iTunes 8.1 might be released within the next 22 minutes?

[Peace]

I predict within the next 22 minutes, Apple developers aren't gonna wanna stay around after 5 ;)

I've seen files go up on Apple's servers at 11PM before.

It's not 9-5 at 1 Infinite Loop.

[thejadedmonkey]

I've seen files go up on Apple's servers at 11PM before.

It's not 9-5 at 1 Infinite Loop.

Oh well, it was a nice thought

[haulis]

How'd you manage that?

Trial and error number guessing... Would have had it sooner had I known it was "iTunes81.dmg" instead of what I thought it was "iTunes810.dmg". Anyway, enjoy.

[Peterkro]

You'd be surprised.:)

[devburke]

From the installer...

What's new in iTunes*8.1

iTunes 8.1 is now faster and more responsive. You will enjoy noticeable improvements when working with large libraries, browsing the iTunes Store, preparing to sync with iPod or iPhone, and optimizing photos for syncing.

In addition, iTunes 8.1 provides many other improvements and bug fixes, including:

• Supports syncing with iPod shuffle (3rd*generation)
• Allows friends to request songs for iTunes DJ
• Adds Genius sidebar for your Movies and TV Shows
• Improves performance when downloading iTunes Plus songs
• Provides AutoFill for manually managed iPods
• Allows CDs to be imported at the same sound quality as iTunes Plus
• Includes many accessibility*improvements
• Allows iTunes U and the iTunes Store to be disabled separately using Parental Controls

[timothyjay2004]

Trial and error number guessing... Would have had it sooner had I known it was "iTunes81.dmg" instead of what I thought it was "iTunes810.dmg". Anyway, enjoy.

I tried that exact link address several times .. they must have just put it on the server... I had tried that from the first actual apple link you posted but changed the last parts removing setup and the exe and adding the 81 and dmg .. didn't work then .. but it does now.. so they must have just uploaded it to the server.

[Chimera]

The song requesting via iPods in iTunes DJ is soo cool, plus you can vote!

[Arley23]

Downloaded 8.1 working great so far

[pooryou]

The song requesting via iPods in iTunes DJ is soo cool, plus you can vote!

Sounds interesting but what does this mean exactly?

[TuffLuffJimmy]

does iTunes look a little different to anyone else? It's probably just the placebo effect...

[Xtremespirit319]

OK DJ on iTunes looks like this....

Look Here (http://www.stephenpugliese.com/untitled.bmp)

The iPhone app looks like this....
Look here.. (http://www.stephenpugliese.com/img_0002.png)

Basically as a real DJ you could get request from peeps when there not near you give u an idea of what ur audience likes:D:D

[devburke]

Yesss iTunes DJ can be controlled from the Remote app! The only functionality I can think of that's not there is choosing the source playlist, but that's no big deal at all.

[macbookairman]

Oh. My. Goodness.

Browsing the iTunes store in 8.1 on my Mac used to be an okay speed. Blazing fast now. Pages load in roughly 1.3 seconds for me. (I timed it)

[archurban]

so itunes 8.1 will be here anytime soon. but I confused autofill feature. I don't think it is new. I use it everyday. when you have smart playlist both for itunes and ipod or iphone, every time when you sync, itunes automatically sync with new stuff. so what's different?

[Arley23]

Also iTunes 8.1 now launches much much faster now.

[lostfan916]

...it IS snappier™ :eek:

[Sky Blue]

Was automatically look for new artwork there before?

[Xtremespirit319]

...it IS snappier™ :eek:


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[devburke]

Wow so earlier I was talking about how my iTunes Plus upgrades haven't been offered...after upgrading one of them was! Strangely only one though...even though I had two tracks from that album...

Hey, better than nothing!

[MikhailT]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


It really is snappier! For real this time.

[TheSpaz]

...it IS snappier™ :eek:

Safari is much snappier™ now!

[Chimera]

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9725/picture1hbh.th.png (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1hbh.png)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2853/img0002.th.png (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0002.png)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5191/img0003.th.png (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0003.png)

Just some photos to help explain.

[Galley]

I'd prefer with iTunes 8.1 to come a fix for the ipod "Compilations/Various Artists" and the Same name albums merging bugs... than movie genues...

Amen, brother!

[devburke]

After updating, when I tried to sync my Touch, I got a calendar sync conflict for my Birthdays auto-calendar from iCal and Address Book, so I clicked cancel and replaced the Calendar info on my iPod. I dunno if this is new or not, but the colors of the calendars on my iPod finally match those in iCal! Small, but it was annoying to have them different.