iPhone 3.0 to Get MMS, Tethering, and Finally... Copy and Paste?

[MacRumors]

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News that Apple will be hosting (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/12/apple-to-preview-iphone-os-3-0-on-march-17th/) a media even next week about iPhone 3.0 has generated a lot of speculation about what might be coming in the new release.

BoyGeniusReport claims (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/03/12/apple-iphone-30-os-event-march-17th-we-got-some-info/) to have heard two possible features that would certainly make many iPhone users happy. They believe that iPhone 3.0 will introduce MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service) and Tethering.

MMS would finally offer iPhone users the ability to send photos by way of SMS, and tethering would allow you to share your iPhone's internet connection with your laptop computer. An alleged Steve Jobs email (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/08/28/apple-and-atandt-discussing-official-tethering-option-for-iphone/) even confirmed that Apple had been working on a thethering solution, so it certainly seems feasible. BoyGeniusReport's record, however, has been spotty, so we can't be entirely confident of the report.

A more interesting report comes from John Gruber (http://daringfireball.net/linked/2009/03/12/iphone-os-3-guesses) about his "guesses" for iPhone 3.0 from back at Macworld: First, a new home screen app (a.k.a. SpringBoard), designed from the ground up for a system where users have a few dozen or more extra apps installed. Managing dozens of apps on the iPhone today is simply a pain in the ass. Second, maybe an answer to the question of where the background notification API is — you know, the one we were told at WWDC to expect a few months ago, but which we haven’t heard a word about since. And maybe — pretty please, Mr. Forstall, with sugar on top — copy and paste.While Gruber labels this as his "wish list", we have good reason to believe that these features will indeed be found in the iPhone 3.0 firmware. That could mean a better app-managing SpringBoard (with categories?), a solution to "push" notifications (background tasks? (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/02/03/apple-to-allow-background-tasks-on-iphone/)), and, yes... even copy and paste.

Finally, there has been evidence in the latest version of Snow Leopard's CoreLocation framework (which is shared by the iPhone) that Apple is building in support for magnetometers, which could suggest the use of a digital compass in future devices, much like the Android G1.

Article Link: iPhone 3.0 to Get MMS, Tethering, and Finally... Copy and Paste? (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/13/iphone-3-0-to-get-mms-tethering-and-finally-copy-and-paste/)

[japanime]

Just add copy and paste, and I'll be a happy camper.

[Luap]

MMS & Tethering requires an entire new OS? Surely not. Still, bring it on! :)

Now bring on the kids moaning about lack of Copy/Paste :rolleyes:

[Mahoney]

No A2DP? :(

[mackensteff]

Could this event be due to the fact that Apple has to submit the iPhone to the FCC for approval, and in doing so the 'secrets' may be spilt at anytime? This event, although a pre-announcement, allows apple to set the stage, instead of being upstaged when the info goes live on the FCC website.

[ayale99]

video recording maybe?

[mattwolfmatt]

Copy and paste? I'll believe it when I see it.

[Leemo]

Loving the sound of categories, done in a 'stacks' style please...

-L

[kyleaa]

I know the lack of copy/paste is a PITA, but the lack of MMS is just embarrassing. AT&T's web based solution is also almost useless...

[Motley]

I hope for better app management. Flicking left or right repeatedly gets really annoying.

So will the third iphone be shown as well I wonder and what will it have (what will they call it?)

[jlwillia]

Love it or hate it, MMS is needed.

Maybe someday everyone will have phones with access to e-mail. Now is not that time. We need MMS.

[wilycoder]

Where the ****** is PUSH?!!?!

[jciapara]

Hopefully all features will come!!

[amac4me]

I'll be happy with copy & paste!

[Rojo]

I'll believe MMS and C&P when I see it. I have serious doubts. Doesn't look like there's much real proof here, either...

I DO believe we'll get tethering (at a high price), and possibly a new way to navigate the homescreens (but not customize them). Plus, the push notifications thing WILL be addressed. If not done the way they initially planned, then at least an all-new way that's maybe even better.

I'd be super happy if we just got more SMS stuff, like individual text deletion and forwarding. OMG - how radically that would change things for me...

[Jayomat]

haven't we seen enough wish lists? :rolleyes:

[stevearm]

- MMS
- Copy and Paste
- Tethering
- Folders on springboard.

That'd be amazing.

[QCassidy352]

No A2DP? :(

Where the ****** is PUSH?!!?!

I was about to post "Despite the fact that this is basically everything everyone wants, I'm sure someone will still, somehow, find something to complain about," but I see I underestimated the posters of macrumors. :rolleyes:

[maconspace]

Hopefully this will include Flash compatibility also.

[plumbingandtech]

I was about to post "Despite the fact that this is basically everything everyone wants, I'm sure someone will still, somehow, find something to complain about," but I see I underestimated the posters of macrumors. :rolleyes:

yah, I posted too soon as well, I forgot, this is macrumors, the Ernest and Julio Gallo of online whineries...

[scirica]

Nothing in the recent history of Apple's announcements about our beloved iPhone lead me to believe we'll be getting C&P or even MMS. I love my iPhone in spite of it's shortcomings, but I would welcome some very basic features finding there way to us so I'm a little less embarrassed when comparing my phone to my 12 year old's phone.

[Niiro13]

Not gonna switch back until they get HID.

But it's nice to know that they're finally adding the features most people are always asking about.

[dam0dred]

MMS, tethering... Wow, welcome to 2003! :-P

I hope there is more up Apple's sleeve. The Pre hype train is starting to pick up speed and needs to be stopped. I'm excited for this event.

[lftrghtparadigm]

If the new OS includes MMS and C&P, I', going to lose my lunch at how pathetic they are.

2 years of it being completely unnecessary and suddenly "OS 3.0" makes it all possible. Horrible.

Where are the real features? I don't want more 2002 cell phone crap

[wrldwzrd89]

Any news/rumors on what will be included for iPod touch users? Obviously, MMS won't make it to the iPod touch. I sure hope the other stuff does, though.

[X38]

Didn't the announcement also say that there would be a new version of the SDK?
Is so, I hope they will add SDK access to the USB port so that third party hardware can also be created.

[Spock]

Springboard backgrounds, copy and paste, folders new version of safari with features like safari 4 and I will be a happy camper.

[Mark Booth]

Something tells me that I'll be buying my third new iPhone in two years, sometime around July of '09! :)

Mark

[X38]

A mini Finder like application for file management would also be very nice. Could this be implemented as just an app without needing to upgrade the main OS though?

[wrldwzrd89]

A mini Finder like application for file management would also be very nice. Could this be implemented as just an app without needing to upgrade the main OS though?
This could be implemented as an app, yes... unless you mean app management, which would require an OS upgrade. Of course, it would be limited to managing its own files due to the sandbox restrictions, and therefore wouldn't be of much use - UNLESS its purpose was to enable transfer of arbitrary files from one place to another, via an iPhone or iPod touch.

[Lesser Evets]

The need copy/paste.

I would be SHOCKED if video wasn't coming.

[Virgil-TB2]

Didn't the announcement also say that there would be a new version of the SDK?
Is so, I hope they will add SDK access to the USB port so that third party hardware can also be created.First there is no USB port on an iPhone. Secondly, access to the hardware has not much to do with the SDK, you have to pay for a license.

[alFR]

we have reason to believe that these features will indeed be found in the iPhone 3.0 firmware.

What reason would that be, exactly?

[teme]

When Apple last year previewed iPhone operating system update, did they announce the release of iPhone 3G too at the same time? Or was it later? I'm just wondering if they will announce the new iPhone model and its release date next week too... or will it be just about the operating system...

[etaylor3971]

OK - time for some perspective -

the iPhone is a terrific product, head and shoulders above anything out there (in a big picture sense) -

but it's been missing a few essentials from the beginning (most notably mms) - so yes, mms, copy and paste, and tethering would make us "complete" - but I have a feeling the engineers at Apple have a few other tricks up their sleeves that will generate more enthusiasm for 3.0

Also, a hardware upgrade for the phone should be forthcoming (can we expect yearly hardware upgrades?) which would coincide nicely with the OS upgrade.

I think a better camea with video support, a nice memory boost and improved battery life would be reasonable to expect. Maybe a little video conferencing thrown in for good measure.

The key is for enthusiasts to continue to hardware upgrade, to extend our contracts and keep us motivated and excited.

On the engineering side, though, is to ensure these new upgrades work well and don't decimate the battery.

It's got to be a difficult balancing act trying to squeeze in new hardware and software improvements in the self-imposed 6-12 month time spans and continue to support the older hardware and software.

But I believe :apple: can and will deliver.

[Small White Car]

Hopefully this will include Flash compatibility also.

No, it won't.

Apple has made it clear they don't want it, and they've been going way out of their way to work on things that work like Flash, but depend on CSS/HTML/AJAX instead.

Look at the search bar on Apple.com, for example. Also, look at the Safari 4 welcome "video" that plays the first time you load it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3ax10CH7tw

That's a YouTube video, but the original is not video, it's done with open web standards to simulate video. Apple has been going nuts working on stuff like that over the last year. It's very clear that they're going to fight hard to keep Flash off the iPhone.

[Vectrex]

OK, I'm going to call it. I say that the teathering will exclusively work with a new Apple touchpad slate ebook type device.
After all if Apple do release a 10" device it will need some form of Internet access beyond WiFi but who wants to pay for separate 3G access for an iPhone AND a tablet.

[Eduardo1971]

I'm trying to put the pieces together: I wonder if this rumoured 'springboard' ('stacks?') is Apple future direction. If the rumoured 'netbook' does not have a physical keyboard and this new 3.0 iPhone OS also incorporates this 'springboard', then Snow Leopard will tie all this together.

The future of computing will shun away (as much as possible) physical keyboards and mice.

[Small White Car]

OK, I'm going to call it. I say that the teathering will exclusively work with a new Apple touchpad slate ebook type device.
After all if Apple do release a 10" device it will need some form of Internet access beyond WiFi but who wants to pay for separate 3G access for an iPhone AND a tablet.

It's clear that AT&T is going to make you pay more to tether an iPhone to any kind of device. (From what they've said, it sounds like it will be the same...you pay $30 for data on the iPhone and another $30 if you want the ability to tether to anything.)

So if you're going to be paying more, why would you limit yourself to using it with one kind of computer but not another? Of course, at that point it makes sense to build 3G into the tablet since that would probably be the same $30 you would have paid to tether.

[goodwilldrums]

I've been tethering for about three months now (since jailbreaking). I know if AT&T found out they would **** their pants and heavily fine my ass. But so far so good. It works perfectly for me when I need my full laptops browser and there is no wireless around.

It would be nice to do it legally!

[Roy Hobbs]

I'm trying to put the pieces together: I wonder if this rumoured 'springboard' is Apple future direction. If the rumoured 'netbook' does not have a physical keyboard and this new 3.0 iPhone OS also incorporates this 'springboard', then Snow Leopard will tie all this together.

The future of computing will shun away (as much as possible) physical keyboards and mice.

I don't think you know what the springboard is

[Eduardo1971]

When Apple last year previewed iPhone operating system update, did they announce the release of iPhone 3G too at the same time? Or was it later? I'm just wondering if they will announce the new iPhone model and its release date next week too... or will it be just about the operating system...

They announced the 1st generation 3G iPhone several months later. The 2.0 SDK came first.

The 1st gen. 3G iPhone was announced at WWDC in June.

[foniks2020]

What is so special about MMS? Who uses it, except the teens who do that 'sexting' where they send nude pics to each other? What can you do with it that you can't do by taking a photo and emailing to someone?

Is it a poor man's emailing a photo? as in do most phone not have email capabilities so have to use MMS for this functionality? If not, I don't get it. If so... I guess it's a feature some people have to use because they don't have an alternative - which I sort of understand.

[gibbz]

Something tells me that I'll be buying my third new iPhone in two years, sometime around July of '09! :)

Mark

I'll be right there with you!

[goodwilldrums]

An app for a tethering option already existed!

http://www.appleiphoneapps.com/2008/07/app-store-pulls-tethering-utility-netshare/

Apple took it down a week after it was released. I guess AT&T found out and freaked with all the data being sucked out.

[jholzner]

Could this event be due to the fact that Apple has to submit the iPhone to the FCC for approval, and in doing so the 'secrets' may be spilt at anytime? This event, although a pre-announcement, allows apple to set the stage, instead of being upstaged when the info goes live on the FCC website.

No because this is about the OS and not the hardware.

[pherplexed]

I would LOVE to see them implement a feature where a pulsing bar at the top acts as a button to jump you back to the previous App you were using without having to tap home, then tap the app. (Very similar to how you can jump back to a phone call by tapping the green bar.)

I've wished for something like this several times when jumping back and forth between 2 apps.

[impaler]

MMS--meh. I never really used it when I had it. It's not a big deal to e-mail pics. Since my g/f and I both have iPhones, it would be cool to send pics faster that way. Not a killer feature for me.

Tethering would be wicked cool, but I'm not prepared to pay additional monies to AT&T to have the ability to do it. Don't need it THAT bad.

Copy and paste--you know, there are a few times I wished it was there, just for the sake of not having to manually type things in. But really that's rare--I don't find I have a need for that much. I don't think it's a top priority for Apple.

What I'd really like to see is solid MobileMe sync of calendars that I can trust. Right now the calendaring is the most annoying feature.

[pherplexed]

What is so special about MMS? Who uses it, except the teens who do that 'sexting' where they send nude pics to each other? What can you do with it that you can't do by taking a photo and emailing to someone?

Is it a poor man's emailing a photo? as in do most phone not have email capabilities so have to use MMS for this functionality? If not, I don't get it. If so... I guess it's a feature some people have to use because they don't have an alternative - which I sort of understand.

I agree. In fact, you can email to a phone's TXT address so it can show up on a non-email capable phone. The ONLY reason MMS would be nice is when someone sends YOU an MMS. That way you don't have to click that stupid "AT&T: Somebody sent you a multimedia message" link and type in the cryptic username and password on a website to view it. (which you can't copy and paste, of course).

[hazza.jockel]

Where the ****** is PUSH?!!?!

What I am wondering about push is that if a new phone is required (better cpu/batteries or something) to cope with the extra load then surely everyone who owns an iPhone 3g is entitled to a free upgrade. A company cant say a device will have something and then after a lot of people buy the product say that it will only be available on the next model.

I bet push (when/if it is finally released) will be available for the 3g just with certain downfalls.

[knightlie]

If the new OS includes MMS and C&P, I', going to lose my lunch at how pathetic they are.

2 years of it being completely unnecessary and suddenly "OS 3.0" makes it all possible. Horrible.

Where are the real features? I don't want more 2002 cell phone crap

So you've been bitching about no CnP, and now it might actually be here it's not good enough? :rolleyes:

They should change this site to MacWhiners.com.

[asdavis10]

Could this event be due to the fact that Apple has to submit the iPhone to the FCC for approval, and in doing so the 'secrets' may be spilt at anytime? This event, although a pre-announcement, allows apple to set the stage, instead of being upstaged when the info goes live on the FCC website.

100% correct. Why be upstaged by the FCC when Apple can unveil their new cash cow and generate buzz the way they want to!

[nesado]

How about bluetooth file transfer and video recording the basics feature on any nokia phones. Video calls even...

[zelmo]

And then the Macrumors forums ran out of whine....

Don't worry, that will never ever happen. ever.

Looking forward to news of new features in 3.0, and hoping that they will all be compatible with the current gen hardware.

[teme]

What is so special about MMS? Who uses it, except the teens who do that 'sexting' where they send nude pics to each other? What can you do with it that you can't do by taking a photo and emailing to someone?

Is it a poor man's emailing a photo? as in do most phone not have email capabilities so have to use MMS for this functionality? If not, I don't get it. If so... I guess it's a feature some people have to use because they don't have an alternative - which I sort of understand.

Yeah, many people I know don't use their phone for email, some people have email address from Hotmail/Yahoo/Google/etc and their mobile phone doesn't support it. And many people just don't know how to use email in their mobile phone... my parents send me some pictures using MMS, because it's simple to use.

[sunfast]

What is so special about MMS? Who uses it, except the teens who do that 'sexting' where they send nude pics to each other? What can you do with it that you can't do by taking a photo and emailing to someone?

Is it a poor man's emailing a photo? as in do most phone not have email capabilities so have to use MMS for this functionality? If not, I don't get it. If so... I guess it's a feature some people have to use because they don't have an alternative - which I sort of understand.

I really want MMS. And not to send pictures - I always do that by email.

MMS allows me to send contacts to people. I always get people asking me to send them so and so's number. On my iPhone I have to look up the number, remember it / write it down and then tap it into a SMS.

On my very old SonyEricsson I could send the business card over in a couple of clicks. It's frustrating I can't do this on my iPhone

[koobcamuk]

Love it or hate it, MMS is needed.

Maybe someday everyone will have phones with access to e-mail. Now is not that time. We need MMS.

unless you live in Japan, which you don't.

Doesn't matter anyway. Tethering and MMS are great; and so is copy and paste. Tethering along is amazing.

[MattJessop]

Hm, I'd love to use the tethering option properly, that would definitely come in handy for me, and copy and paste would be nice for a change, but I'm hoping theres something big beside these features. Not that I'm complaining mind, I'm still happy with the functionality from the current 2.2 OS.

MMS would be nice, but not entirely needed, because I rarely use it, and third party apps cover this anyway.

[edenwaith]

How about the ability to record video and turn-by-turn GPS navigation?

What I'd really like is a 32GB iPhone.

Tethering would be nice. I probably wouldn't use it too much myself, but I know some who would make good use from it.

[kdarling]

Could this event be due to the fact that Apple has to submit the iPhone to the FCC for approval, and in doing so the 'secrets' may be spilt at anytime? This event, although a pre-announcement, allows apple to set the stage, instead of being upstaged when the info goes live on the FCC website.

Companies can (and do) request that everything except the radio reports stay secret until they wish. So at the most, we'd find out if it had CDMA (ha!), and perhaps the overall new shape if their FCC label diagram shows it.

Even the first time, Jobs just used the FCC as an excuse to show off the phone and build up the hype for six months.

Besides, I believe that Apple held an iPhone Roadmap event at this time last year, right?

[Freis968]

I hope all of these things actually do come to fruition with the 3.0 release. One of the things I really liked, besides MMS is this:

A new home screen app (a.k.a. SpringBoard), designed from the ground up for a system where users have a few dozen or more extra apps installed. Managing dozens of apps on the iPhone today is simply a pain in the ass.

I could not agree how much a pain in the ass it is to manage the apps.

[Ted13]

No, it won't.

Apple has made it clear they don't want it, and they've been going way out of their way to work on things that work like Flash, but depend on CSS/HTML/AJAX instead.

Excellent post. I'm sick of hearing stuff about how Flash is coming to the iPhone. I'm at the point where I'm beginning to suspect that Adobe has its employees spreading "Flash on the iPhone" rumors on various forums. I just don't see where else this stuff is coming from.

[QCassidy352]

The Pre hype train is starting to pick up speed and needs to be stopped.

According to...?

If the new OS includes MMS and C&P, I', going to lose my lunch at how pathetic they are.

2 years of it being completely unnecessary and suddenly "OS 3.0" makes it all possible. Horrible.

Where are the real features? I don't want more 2002 cell phone crap

Wait, let me get this straight. You're going to be upset if the DO put in MMS and C&P? Because it will prove how "pathetic" they were all along? So it would be LESS pathetic to NOT put in these "2002" features?

I know there's just no pleasing some people, but this is really above and beyond.

[TimUSCA]

I really want MMS. And not to send pictures - I always do that by email.

MMS allows me to send contacts to people. I always get people asking me to send them so and so's number. On my iPhone I have to look up the number, remember it / write it down and then tap it into a SMS.

On my very old SonyEricsson I could send the business card over in a couple of clicks. It's frustrating I can't do this on my iPhone

The need to send someone's phone number would also be fixed with copy and paste... I've needed is many times for trying to copy a number from an email to my address book or for the very reason you stated.

[Bye Bye Baby]

Tethering will come at a price. If we already have unlimited data in our contracts, I certainly don't want to extra.

[dmayo1]

What is so special about MMS? Who uses it, except the teens who do that 'sexting' where they send nude pics to each other? What can you do with it that you can't do by taking a photo and emailing to someone?

Is it a poor man's emailing a photo? as in do most phone not have email capabilities so have to use MMS for this functionality? If not, I don't get it. If so... I guess it's a feature some people have to use because they don't have an alternative - which I sort of understand.

People try to send us MMS images of our 10 month old nephew a few times a month and we never get the images. So, there's always that.

The fact that my in laws have figured out how to send a picture message yet I can't receive it drives me up a wall.

[T-Will]

Dear Steve Jobs,

Please let this upgrade to be available for 1st/2nd gen iPhones (and not just the fancy shmancy new 3rd gen)!

Sincerely,
T.Will

[Chupa Chupa]

Could this event be due to the fact that Apple has to submit the iPhone to the FCC for approval, and in doing so the 'secrets' may be spilt at anytime? This event, although a pre-announcement, allows apple to set the stage, instead of being upstaged when the info goes live on the FCC website.


Nope. Even if Apple shows off h/w (so far they've only billed it as a s/w event) the FCC report doesn't give details on anything but basic functionality. It's no secret that Apple will refresh the iPhone or that it will be 3G or have WiFi. The only aspect the FCC could "upstage" Apple on is the case, and that isn't what Apple is telling everyone will be shown. This isn't an iPhone event, it's an iPhone software event.

[Scott4551]

What is so special about copy and paste?????

Give me a landscape keyboard already and the ability to forward SMS to other contacts.

MMS...FINALLLYYYYYYYYYY

[Ochire]

Would just a firmware update be enough to give digital compass support? Also, C&P would solve the lack of forwarding in sms.

[fishkorp]

I'd like to see an update to the iPod app so that you can natively play SHOUTcast streams without a 3rd party app. Only reason is so I can listen to streams in the background while using other apps.

[1Zach1]

My prediction:
It won't have MMS.
It won't have Copy and Paste (or it will but it will be really screwed up)
Tethering will be like all AT&T phones and cost $30 a month with a 5Gb cap.
It will have a new way to sort Apps that will disappoint and confuse everyone.
People will complain constantly, yet still buy the new IPhone or upgrade the OS.

But it doesn't matter, even if it had all this stuff people are already complaining.

[Willis]

please please please please...

Does feel like wishful thinking though

[yg17]

What is so special about MMS? Who uses it, except the teens who do that 'sexting' where they send nude pics to each other? What can you do with it that you can't do by taking a photo and emailing to someone?

Is it a poor man's emailing a photo? as in do most phone not have email capabilities so have to use MMS for this functionality? If not, I don't get it. If so... I guess it's a feature some people have to use because they don't have an alternative - which I sort of understand.


My mom and dad use MMS occasionally. They both have some cheap Samsung phones, no smartphones. They don't want e-mail on their phone, they barely know how to e-mail. It's easy enough for them to take a picture, select a contact from their list and hit send.

[GenNovE]

Ive had copy and paste, mms & tethering on my iphone for a long time.
So this just confirms that the iphone is playing catch-up to the alternate scene (jailbreak community).

Apples restrictions and "recommendations" on how they forcefully push their view on how your phone should be used is really annoying.
Anything to brake the apple chains that are making microsofts look like shoe strings is welcomed with open arms.

[AndyCro]

There will be a folders type system implemented for apps

so you can put your games in one, utils in another etc

Custom folders aswell for favourite apps etc

When you install a new app it will ask you if you want to designate it a folder aswell

easier to keep organised and better than flicking through 8 pages that you have to put in order only for a new installed app to cock it all up

10 points if im right

[kasei]

Wow. Should hold our breath? My first generation iPhone is getting long in the tooth. I think it will be a good time to upgrade as soon as the new ones come out.

[kas23]

There will be a folders type system implemented for apps

so you can put your games in one, utils in another etc

Custom folders aswell for favourite apps etc

When you install a new app it will ask you if you want to designate it a folder aswell

easier to keep organised and better than flicking through 8 pages that you have to put in order only for a new installed app to cock it all up

10 points if im right

Good. I've been looking for a way to organize all of my tip calculators, one touch dialers, and fart apps. ;)

[Small White Car]

Good. I've been looking for a way to organize all of my tip calculators, one touch dialers, and fart apps. ;)

You're in luck. The 3.0 software solves this problem by ONLY allowing fart-apps into the dock. This way, you'll never have to scroll though pages to find your favorite farting application.

This is actually all they've been working on since last year!

It's what they hired that high-level guy from IBM for.

[rez07]

What is so special about MMS? Who uses it, except the teens who do that 'sexting' where they send nude pics to each other?

can anyone top this on dumbness???

[btcutter]

I know it's not in 3.0 but I rather hear ATT give me 5 F**ing bars with 3G everywhere with increase bandwidth/speed to accomodate everyone using smartphones.

copy/past
MMS
ability to forward text messages

[cloud]

Ive had copy and paste, mms & tethering on my iphone for a long time.
So this just confirms that the iphone is playing catch-up to the alternate scene (jailbreak community).

Apples restrictions and "recommendations" on how they forcefully push their view on how your phone should be used is really annoying.
Anything to brake the apple chains that are making microsofts look like shoe strings is welcomed with open arms.

Please calm down.

If I hear one more person scream about how they want copy and paste, I'm going to lose it. It's like the iPhone had the power revive the dead, people would be crying about how it can't do CPR. Are people this anal or is it just the internet?

:apple:

[headfuzz]

If these standard functions had been included from day 1, I wouldn't have jailbroken.

[QCassidy352]

If I hear one more person scream about how they want copy and paste, I'm going to lose it. It's like the iPhone had the power revive the dead, people would be crying about how it can't do CPR. Are people this anal or is it just the internet?

It's just the internet. :) People on MR are particularly hard to please, it seems.

[fleshman03]

And then the Macrumors forums ran out of whine....

Don't worry, we'll find some yet....


My comments on this: I'm happy I've waited till now to look into buying an iPhone. It'll be awesome. ... and I only waited because I wanted 32gb+ of storage.

[soundsgoodtome]

What I'd really like to see is solid MobileMe sync of calendars that I can trust. Right now the calendaring is the most annoying feature.

My MobileMe calandar syncing is flawless. Three Macs, plus an iPhone, 2 calendar groups, and about a dozen, active calendars.

Are your settings correct?

[rez07]

Lets not forget ability to sync the Notes app with Mac/Pc, and addition of a To-do app also with sync capability, plus ability to get information from PIM on the lockscreen. I mean...this is so basic...do they really want to grow on the enterprise market???

[cfairbank]

Would 3.0 work on the current iPhone or would it only be available for a new iphone model or upgrade?

[asdavis10]

Ive had copy and paste, mms & tethering on my iphone for a long time.
So this just confirms that the iphone is playing catch-up to the alternate scene (jailbreak community).

Apples restrictions and "recommendations" on how they forcefully push their view on how your phone should be used is really annoying.
Anything to brake the apple chains that are making microsofts look like shoe strings is welcomed with open arms.

MMS and tethering were not included in the iPhone because of AT&T restrictions, not Apple.

[glowingstar]

How about a Genius Phone List that analyzes your conversations and then suggests other iPhone users you don't yet know whom you would probably enjoy talking to? :D

[mambodancer]

My MobileMe calandar syncing is flawless. Three Macs, plus an iPhone, 2 calendar groups, and about a dozen, active calendars.

Are your settings correct?

5 Macs, 2 iphones, about the same number of active calendars and google calendar syncing with Busy Sync. Works beautifully and I rely on it as the number one feature in my consulting business nearly every hour of every day. That, and Google GPS have made the iPhone the best solution for my business.

[mambodancer]

If these standard functions had been included from day 1, I wouldn't have jailbroken.

Is there a demo video on youtube showing how Copy/Paste is implemented on a jail broken phone across all applications? Thanks.

[T-Bone]

My comments on this: I'm happy I've waited till now to look into buying an iPhone. It'll be awesome. ... and I only waited because I wanted 32gb+ of storage.

Same here. I figured I could make due with my iPod and current cell phone until they increased the hard drive size. But even besides that, I think they've made some pretty big improvements just in the past two years. And most of the features people are complaining about on here I don't think will be a big deal to me whether they are added or not. Obviously they are important to some people, but apparently not the majority of customers or the phone would not have been as popular as it is.

As someone else said, the things I am most concerned about are battery life and reception/internet speed. Those are things that can make a phone totally useless, regardless of its features.

[X38]

First there is no USB port on an iPhone. Secondly, access to the hardware has not much to do with the SDK, you have to pay for a license.

Well, whatever you want to call the dock connector that plugs into a computers USB port. I know of one company that intended to offer third party hardware that used this port, but dropped their plans because they said Apple did not allow access to it in the SDK.
So, it would be nice if the new SDK adds this.

[overcast]

What is so special about MMS? Who uses it, except the teens who do that 'sexting' where they send nude pics to each other? What can you do with it that you can't do by taking a photo and emailing to someone?

Is it a poor man's emailing a photo? as in do most phone not have email capabilities so have to use MMS for this functionality? If not, I don't get it. If so... I guess it's a feature some people have to use because they don't have an alternative - which I sort of understand. I'm 28 and my girlfriend is 24, I'm not allowed to receive "sexts" from her when I'm traveling for work? She doesn't have an iphone and doesn't have email on hers. It's not poor mans emailing, it's a convenience that the rest of the planet has had forever. Stop being so short sighted.

[overcast]

Would 3.0 work on the current iPhone or would it only be available for a new iphone model or upgrade?

Let us check our crystal balls.

[Lazlow]

I'm currently enjoying copy & paste and tethering on my jailbroken phone... *whistling*

[jcb10]

I'm a freelance sportswriter who often covers games remotely with my laptop, usually where there's no wi-fi. Tethering would be nice, but not really necessary if there were a way to get my Microsoft Word (or even plain text) file off my laptop, onto the iPhone and then mailed as an attachment from there. AirSharing can get the file off my laptop and onto my phone, but it can't e-mail it.

Anyone know of any current app that could help me?

[BeyondtheTech]

I hope we don't have anything too funky when it comes to splitting up the apps.

Categories? Stacks? Folders will do just fine. Click a Games folder, see the games slide into view. Want to go back up, slide your finger or press the Home button. Can't be any simpler.

Call me a PITA dad, but I really want more parental control - maybe even remote administration from the master account on MobileMe. Disable games or certain apps/features if it's past curfew or if they're grounded. Call screening, whitelists, blacklists, for incoming and outgoing calls and SMS. Ability to get location, either 24-hour history, last polled or current, and show in Google Maps. Remotely snap a picture, answer a call (monitoring), or send a siren sound.

How about instant media messaging right from the in-call screen? Say you're on the phone with your wife, girlfriend, or friend. You're at the store and don't remember which brand or style of shirt to get. An additional icon will join Mute, Keypad, Speaker/Source, Add Call, Hold, and Contacts and be labeled "Send Photo." Instantly pulls up the camera and sends to the person (or persons if it's a conference) on the other end of the call, either via MMS (preferred) or email. Sure beats having to press Home, then Camera, take a picture, then click the Action icon, Send Email, look up or type the email address, click Send, then click Return to Call (whew!).

How about selective deletion of call history?

Or what about reverse phone lookup when someone calls? For 3G users, it's a no-brainer, since it can do voice and data simultaneously (take that, Verizon/Sprint!). It may take a few seconds before it can find it, but it'll be worth it. Even if it's just location and carrier, but would be nice if it would try to pull it from Google and give its best guess. Sure helps when you're looking at the call history and for those random-looking numbers you didn't add to your Contacts and name them, this would be a great help.

By the way, I sent these to the Apple iPhone Feedback page. Let's see if they'll respond or even read it.

[abhimehr]

So is this going to be the big update for this year ? And then we will have to wait for a one yr cycle to get a h/w update ? Are we still on for a June h/w release ?

[fleshman03]

Am I weird for wanting Preview on the iPhone? I use that App to read eBooks, Scholarly Articles and papers. Often times I'll use the edit features too. (highlight, sticky note...)

I'd love to be able to drag and drop PDFs onto the device and be able to edit them in preview. (I truly find viewing PDFs in mail better than Stanza...)

Of course a mobile version of iWork would be nice too. I'd like to see a price structure like this:

Desktop Apps + Mobile Apps bundle for $79
Mobile Apps for $5.99.

[TitoC]

I really want MMS. And not to send pictures - I always do that by email.

MMS allows me to send contacts to people. I always get people asking me to send them so and so's number. On my iPhone I have to look up the number, remember it / write it down and then tap it into a SMS.

On my very old SonyEricsson I could send the business card over in a couple of clicks. It's frustrating I can't do this on my iPhone

Actually, you can do this right now. There's a 99 cent app called iBeam that let's you do just that. You can send contact info (including contact photo, phone numbers, email info, etc.) to another iBeam user via Wi-Fi OR send entire V-Card to anyone info through email. So if this is your specific need, there already is something out there that can do just that.

[bretm]

Am I weird for wanting Preview on the iPhone? I use that App to read eBooks, Scholarly Articles and papers. Often times I'll use the edit features too. (highlight, sticky note...)

I'd love to be able to drag and drop PDFs onto the device and be able to edit them in preview. (I truly find viewing PDFs in mail better than Stanza...)

Of course a mobile version of iWork would be nice too. I'd like to see a price structure like this:

Desktop Apps + Mobile Apps bundle for $79
Mobile Apps for $5.99.

You've seen Air Sharing? It basically turns your device into a Wifi thumb drive. Store any file you want. PDFs too of course. And from there you can have folders and categories and you can view the PDfs using Apple's built in pdf viewer.

[nyisles84]

I was an original 1G iphone owner for a few months, then decided to go back to Verizon not so much for ATT which was fine around me but because of the few shortcomings the iphone had. The 2ed generation didn't do much to fix it and make me want to come back. based on what I am hearing here if they address even half of those issues I will surely be back.

[dwsolberg]

Oh, the bare day, when dreams are replaced with choices...

[fleshman03]

Same here. I figured I could make due with my iPod and current cell phone until they increased the hard drive size. But even besides that, I think they've made some pretty big improvements just in the past two years. And most of the features people are complaining about on here I don't think will be a big deal to me whether they are added or not. Obviously they are important to some people, but apparently not the majority of customers or the phone would not have been as popular as it is.

As someone else said, the things I am most concerned about are battery life and reception/internet speed. Those are things that can make a phone totally useless, regardless of its features.

Very true. Battery life and reception/internet speed are the most important. But if it can't hold all my music, a few videos and some PDFs, then it's not a smart phone to me. I want it to meet my needs if I'm going to shelling out $80/month + $299.

Besides, are any of us really that far from a USB port? I often times will charge my iPod Touch while I'm at work and then use it during my breaks (3 hours in between work/class and 3 hours in the evening.)

It would be nice not to need to charge it for a day or two, but it's unrealistic w/ my usage habits.

[coma]

please please add message forwarding, apple!

[Eminemdrdre00]

MMS & Tethering requires an entire new OS? Surely not. Still, bring it on! :)

Not sure...but it is OS 3.0 =)

[cwwilson]

- MMS
- Copy and Paste
- Tethering
- Folders on springboard.

That'd be amazing.

You can get all of those through jailbreaking amirite? I know for sure there's C&P and folders (categories app and stacks app) plus I thought I saw something about tethering.

[fleshman03]

You've seen Air Sharing? It basically turns your device into a Wifi thumb drive. Store any file you want. PDFs too of course. And from there you can have folders and categories and you can view the PDfs using Apple's built in pdf viewer.

That's what I use currently. I'd like to see some tools like highlight and have it a bit more incorporated into the OS. (Like notes were on iPods.)

As of now, AirSharing is the best choice for this kind of work.

[Surely]

If there is a hardware upgrade in June, there's only ONE thing I want.

A LOUDER SPEAKER!.
I've missed so many calls because I didn't hear the darn thing.

Agreed. Also, stronger vibration would be nice so that I can actually feel my iPhone every time it rings in my pocket. The RAZR I had before this had very strong vibration compared to my iPhone. These things would have to be done with a hardware upgrade though, not an OS upgrade.

Better reception with AT&T would be nice too. It would be great if my phone didn't drop calls when I walk from my bedroom to my living room or when I'm driving down Wilshire Blvd.

The only other thing I'd really like (that is actually possible with this upgrade) is a landscape keyboard.

Something that I'd like that I doubt will happen is an official SBSettings-like function. This is the main reason why I jailbreak.

I already have copy and paste (Clippy), and I don't really use it very often. I didn't use MMS prior to the iPhone, and I doubt I'll use it if it arrives. Having Backgrounder has been useful for IM and leaving games to check email, so it would be nice to officially be able to run Apps in the background.

And tethering.... No need for that by me. There are Starbucks with their free daily 2 hours of internet everywhere around here.

At least it's only a few days away so that there won't be weeks of crazy speculation......

[Veeoh]

So, only /just/ got my iphone 3G, and a bit hesitant to post this, but would this be available as an upgrade from my firmware 2.2.1?

Sorry if that's a dumb question! :)

Mark:confused:

[sunfast]

How about a Genius Phone List that analyzes your conversations and then suggests other iPhone users you don't yet know whom you would probably enjoy talking to? :D

Very droll :)

[fleshman03]

So, only /just/ got my iphone 3G, and a bit hesitant to post this, but would this be available as an upgrade from my firmware 2.2.1?

Sorry if that's a dumb question! :)

Mark:confused:

If they do what they have done in the past, yes.

They allowed all iPhone users to just upgrade from 1.0 -> 2.0 for free.
Ipod Touch Users needed to pay .... I forget. It was $10 or $20.

You should be fine.

Don't be afraid to ask anything here. Most of us are quite helpful. I still ask a fair amount of questions. Welcome! Enjoy the community.

[Veeoh]

If they do what they have done in the past, yes.

They allowed all iPhone users to just upgrade from 1.0 -> 2.0 for free.
Ipod Touch Users needed to pay .... I forget. It was $10 or $20.

You should be fine.

Don't be afraid to ask anything here. Most of us are quite helpful. I still ask a fair amount of questions. Welcome! Enjoy the community.

Cool! Thanks the welcome.

Mark

[iPhoneNYC]

Tethering would be fantastic. Is it too much to ask for a search option for email???

[Slurpy2k8]

What about Arabic text support, which my 5 year old, bottom of the barrel, Nokia 6103 which I got free with a plan does perfectly? There's so many that would benefit from this, many more than users speaking other languages iPhone supports. I get Arabic emails and FWDS all the time, and can never read them on the phone.

But even that would come below C+P for me, and maybe a dozen other fixes.

[lamina]

It's about friggin time Apple catches up to the rest of the world in terms of MMS and SIMPLE COPY AND PASTE. Seriously what the hell has been holding them back?

[clcnyc]

please! the cheapest most basic pieces of crap have this function. come on! :confused:

[jackfrost123]

If there is a hardware upgrade in June, there's only ONE thing I want.

A LOUDER SPEAKER!.
I've missed so many calls because I didn't hear the darn thing.

AMEN, I HAVE MISSED SO MANY TOO, READ THIS HERE APPLE

[nxent]

nice...

[megfilmworks]

It's about friggin time Apple catches up to the rest of the world in terms of MMS and SIMPLE COPY AND PASTE. Seriously what the hell has been holding them back?

Copy and Paste=Progressive
MMS=Regressive

[stevejobbers]

I'm a freelance sportswriter who often covers games remotely with my laptop, usually where there's no wi-fi. Tethering would be nice, but not really necessary if there were a way to get my Microsoft Word (or even plain text) file off my laptop, onto the iPhone and then mailed as an attachment from there. AirSharing can get the file off my laptop and onto my phone, but it can't e-mail it.

Anyone know of any current app that could help me?

If you are able to use AirSharing doesn't that mean you have a WiFi network available? If so, can't you just email the thing off of your laptop, why are you moving it to the iPhone.

But no, I can't think of any way to send a file from AirSharing as an email attachment, which sucks. That would be really cool...

[The Samurai]

It's about friggin time Apple catches up to the rest of the world in terms of MMS and SIMPLE COPY AND PASTE. Seriously what the hell has been holding them back?

They've probably been working on a new way of copying and pasting (pun intended), such as the 'shake' feature on the iPods and the 'multi-gesture' trackpads.

Personally, im looking forward to the tethering option.

[stevejobbers]

i'm also really afraid that some cool new features of 3.0 won't work on existing iphones. some things i believe will work, like a revamped home screen, tethering, MMS.... but the ability to run multiple apps at once or video recording will probably require new hardware. i can currently play Rolando and listen to music and accept phone calls all at the same time -- how much RAM can possibly be left over at this point? 2MB? clearly not enough to have any other applications running.

also, what would happen if you try to run multiple internet apps at the same time (like Pandora, Facebook, Ebay...) at some point wouldn't you overload the Edge/3G capabilities!?! even with new hardware i don't see how it would be possible to have multiple apps running at once due to network limitations. maybe they could remain 'open' in the background, but not running...

[stownsend3]

I am definitely looking forward to MMS. The tethering will be good for those who didn't manage to snag NetShare when it was on the app store. I was one of the lucky ones and it works great.

It's always a relief to know that whn you're on the road and need to get some work done or send out a spreadsheet for work you can.

Any other changes would be entirely welcome as long as it doesn't make the phone and slower or more buggy.

[nfl46]

MMS is needed. Not everyone in the world owns a smartphone yet. Maybe in 10 years or so, MMS will be gone, but as of now, it's definitely needed!

[ipodtouchy333]

Finally, MMS!!! That's all I really care about, haha.

[Rychiar]

isnt it amazing how exciting features i had on phones 10 years ago are now, lol:eek:

[mrr]

_ Cut&Paste (come on the 1984 Mac128k had this feature)
_ Double click to select a word
_ Video recording
_ Global Search
_ Bluetooth enabled (or teathered) keyboards
_ Bluetooth syncing
_ Bluetooth music listening
_ Horizontal text input in all applications
_ Sync notes and to dos
_ Ability to sync documents and edit them
_ Flash
_ Laptop tethering
_ Streamlined email reading between accounts
_ Push notification
_ Quickly back up all application data on phone
_ A Finder that allows for categories
_ List View for applications
_ No limit on the number of applications installed
_ List Docs as well
_ iChat video conferencing official ap
_ Turn by Turn navigation (ala TomTom)
_ MMS
_ VOICE DIALING !!!

[THE JUICEMAN]

I agree that mms would be kind of weird after 2 years of them saying it's an out dated technology. But I would still take it. I mainly want stereo Bluetooth, wide screen texting as an option, and a chat solution. There is no reason we can't have all of these.

[kdarling]

also, what would happen if you try to run multiple internet apps at the same time (like Pandora, Facebook, Ebay...) at some point wouldn't you overload the Edge/3G capabilities!?! even with new hardware i don't see how it would be possible to have multiple apps running at once due to network limitations. maybe they could remain 'open' in the background, but not running...

On WM phones, I can run Pandora in the background while surfing the Web. (And I suspect there are jailbroken iPhones that do it too.)

This is with Google Sync going as well.

Also sometimes I will have the Slingplayer going, and during commercials flip to IE to look at mobile news sites. If I don't stop Sling, I can still hear the show's audio. When I hear the show start again, I just flip back to the TV screen. (Ah, isn't multitasking great?)

[kornyboy]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5H11 Safari/525.20)

That's a nice list of things that I think we all want to be included.

[cameronjpu]

OK, I'm going to call it. I say that the teathering will exclusively work with a new Apple touchpad slate ebook type device.
After all if Apple do release a 10" device it will need some form of Internet access beyond WiFi but who wants to pay for separate 3G access for an iPhone AND a tablet.

While I appreciate putting your name to a prediction, that prediction is pretty terrible ;) try again!

[Saladinos]

- MMS: Possible to do through an application. Has, in fact, already been done. There's a fantastic native MMS application on the UK AppStore. Besides, I think people have become used to not having MMS. It's not a big deal any more, and if the predictions that smartphones will account for 50% of the market by 2012 are correct, it's going to be less and less significant.

- Tethering. This actually is likely IMO. Apple's laptops are their flagship products. It makes sense that they'd like to improve them still further by using the iPhone as a data modem. Also, the iPhone is all about mobile connectivity and computing - allowing tethering makes sense as an extension of that. I expect this to work through USB, not bluetooth. Using bluetooth would drain the battery so fast it wouldn't be usable, and I expect this to be facilitated through iTunes, which currently does not support connecting to devices in any way other than USB.

- C&P: Dear God, hopefully!

I'd also like to see:
- More stable system (esp. Safari)
- More informative lock screen
- Quicker rotation with accelerometer
- Landscape views for Mail, SMS, iCal
- Top Sites in MobileSafari
- Flash (duh)
- Proper bluetooth stack
- VoiceOver in iPod.App
- Disk Mode enabled
- AppStore trial versions (full version wrapped in DRM that lets you use it for 3 days)
- Ability to check remaining minutes/texts from phone settings
- Ability to sync iPhone/Mac software through iTunes syncing (not over WiFi)
- Sync iPhone notes

[davidbrummy]

AT&T data network sucks as it is in San Francisco. Throw in Tethering and it will be the end. I tried an AT&T 3G card after using a Verizion card and I nearly died of shock. When I returned it, the people at the store seemed resigned to this being the case. I ended back on Verizion and it is night and day. I did get a kick out of the advert where they show how fast 3G is on the phone. The response time in the advert is faster than most peoples Wi-Fi network.

As for features, cut n paste please and background apps.

David

[mrtune]

MMS and tethering were not included in the iPhone because of AT&T restrictions, not Apple.

Source?

MMS and tethering are high profit revenue generating features for ATT, just like texting.

There is no way in hell ATT would not want it on the iPhone, but offer it on the rest of their phones. Especially since they sell so many of them.

This is Apple's doing. Plain and simple.

[andygabriel]

Please Apple give us Tethering. Who wants Tethering on their Iphone? Please post.

Im dying for Tethering so that i can use my macbook everywhere.

Tethering is more important than MMS.

[morphalex]

I'll believe it when I see it

[overcast]

- MMS: Possible to do through an application. Has, in fact, already been done. There's a fantastic native MMS application on the UK AppStore. Besides, I think people have become used to not having MMS. It's not a big deal any more, and if the predictions that smartphones will account for 50% of the market by 2012 are correct, it's going to be less and less significant.

- Tethering. This actually is likely IMO. Apple's laptops are their flagship products. It makes sense that they'd like to improve them still further by using the iPhone as a data modem. Also, the iPhone is all about mobile connectivity and computing - allowing tethering makes sense as an extension of that. I expect this to work through USB, not bluetooth. Using bluetooth would drain the battery so fast it wouldn't be usable, and I expect this to be facilitated through iTunes, which currently does not support connecting to devices in any way other than USB.

- C&P: Dear God, hopefully!

I'd also like to see:
- More stable system (esp. Safari)
- More informative lock screen
- Quicker rotation with accelerometer
- Landscape views for Mail, SMS, iCal
- Top Sites in MobileSafari
- Flash (duh)
- Proper bluetooth stack
- VoiceOver in iPod.App
- Disk Mode enabled
- AppStore trial versions (full version wrapped in DRM that lets you use it for 3 days)
- Ability to check remaining minutes/texts from phone settings
- Ability to sync iPhone/Mac software through iTunes syncing (not over WiFi)
- Sync iPhone notes
Explain to me what Flash (duh) is going to give me. More ads? Crappy websites?

[iPhoneNYC]

All of those people who purchased the original iPhone in June '07 have their contracts coming due. Wouldn't tethering be a nice enticement to make them re-up with a new phone? And even pay more per month with a smile???

[Johnchapin]

Oh if only it could tether to any display. Doesn't have to be a laptop.

[savanahrose]

I'm trying to put the pieces together: I wonder if this rumoured 'springboard' ('stacks?') is Apple future direction. If the rumoured 'netbook' does not have a physical keyboard and this new 3.0 iPhone OS also incorporates this 'springboard', then Snow Leopard will tie all this together.

The future of computing will shun away (as much as possible) physical keyboards and mice.


I kind of hope so. holding onto a mouse all day while at work and at home is killing my hand. touch would be so much better but I will hate to spend money to fix the sucker. :o:p

[mrr]

Copy and Paste=Progressive
MMS=Regressive

Copy and Paste = Progressive?

Copy and Paste was STANDARD in the 1984 release of the original Mac 128k

Mac 128k = 8 MHz + 128 k RAM - 342x512 b&w - 16.5 lbs
iPhone 3G = 412 MHz + 16 gb RAM - 320x480 color - 4.7 oz

[fleshman03]

Copy and Paste = Progressive?

Copy and Paste was STANDARD in the 1984 release of the original Mac 128k

Mac 128k = 8 MHz + 128 k RAM - 342x512 b&w - 16.5 lbs Computer
iPhone 3G = 412 MHz + 16 gb RAM - 320x480 color - 4.7 oz Phone

:D

[redchannel]

The iPhone desperately needs a MMS application to be implemented into the OS. I work at a corporate AT&T store, and the number one reason folks return the phone is because they cannot send MMS throughout the SMS application. We do explain that it can be done though e-mail, but it is a huge turn off for customers to do that, they see it as a big pain in the butt and as a result they wind up returning the phone. Also another thing that seriously bugs me is the fact that you cant use the keyboard in landscape mode for other applications other than Safari WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::confused::confused::confused: :confused::mad::mad::mad::mad:.

[rez07]

but the ability to run multiple apps at once or video recording will probably require new hardware. i can currently play Rolando and listen to music and accept phone calls all at the same time -- how much RAM can possibly be left over at this point? 2MB?


again is matter of OS efficiency...128mb of RAM should be enough for all that in a mature mobile OS

i am hoping a jump from 2.x to means 3.x means there deep improvements on the OS base code, and not just minor patching, so that everything uses less RAM, and there is more free RAM for 3rd party apps and general multitasking

[mpspence1988]

I'm more interested in the third party applications that they will highlight, they have had other companies demo apps at every iphone software event since it was released so I'm really pumped for it.

My wish: Slingbox, because it's due by the end of the month and I think they could really impress people with a demo of live tv on tuesday

My second guess? Either Tiger Woods 10 or Need For Speed from EA because EA usually gets a spotlight and these two games have been on the way for awhile

Also, I definitely think that they will be announcing that $20 an app premium store that was rumored a little while ago, I think they are starting to get bothered by the number of crap apps, this is just my two cents

Sound off?

[Pooshka]

Will tethering be free on iPhone?

[redchannel]

Tethering with any phone at AT&T is $60 and that includes browsing on the phone also

[caffeinejoe]

How about a Genius Phone List that analyzes your conversations and then suggests other iPhone users you don't yet know whom you would probably enjoy talking to? :D

That's the funniest thing I've read on Mac Rumours all week. Thanks for making my day.

[BTW]

Does the iPhone even have voice dialing for hands free operation? I had that as far back as the mid-90s on my Nokia brick phone (small brick that is). :)

[Thordoubt]

You can forget all your fancy schmancy flamboyant requests. All I want... Really, all I want is the ability to forward on all of the smutty SMS jokes that I get....

[mpspence1988]

I'm more interested in the third party applications that they will highlight, they have had other companies demo apps at every iphone software event since it was released so I'm really pumped for it.

My wish: Slingbox, because it's due by the end of the month and I think they could really impress people with a demo of live tv on tuesday

My second guess? Either Tiger Woods 10 or Need For Speed from EA because EA usually gets a spotlight and these two games have been on the way for awhile

Also, I definitely think that they will be announcing that $20 an app premium store that was rumored a little while ago, I think they are starting to get bothered by the number of crap apps, this is just my two cents

Sound off?

[jpk32092]

let the annual iphone rumors begin

[mrr]

Also, I definitely think that they will be announcing that $20 an app premium store

What does that get anybody? How many $20 apps have you bought? How many aps are even WORTH $20? $20 iphone games? Who does that benefit?

[slapppy]

Apple is getting stupid. They haven't even fixed syncing of Notes and ToDo list from within its own core applications. We'll probably get more eye candy and faster, easier way to spend money on iTunes.

[Pooshka]

All I want is ONE feature: call blocker DAMMIT! :mad:

E.g., allow calls only from those in the address book. Now how hard is that to incorporate???

[Pennyroyal]

To be honest, these features would be nice, but I would like to see a complete overhaul on the SMS app. I think the "chat" layout is worthless and limiting. Of course an option to switch between formats would be more or less expected, but I am sick of not being able to forward text messages, or save them, or anything like that. Its also a giant pain in the butt to send a message to multiple contacts.
MMS and C&P can wait in my opinion.

[jayducharme]

- Folders on springboard.

That'd be amazing.

I disagree with this. I have only four pages of apps, so maybe I'm a light user. But I have no problem with the current navigation scheme. It's simple for me to flick between screens. With folders, I'd wind up with something more like a Windows Start Menu. I'd have to jump from one menu system into another.

[Pennyroyal]

I disagree with this. I have only four pages of apps, so maybe I'm a light user. But I have no problem with the current navigation scheme. It's simple for me to flick between screens. With folders, I'd wind up with something more like a Windows Start Menu. I'd have to jump from one menu system into another.
They need to include options to have different formats and layouts to give the users not only a sense of customizablility but to have theirs be different from the next persons.

[mpspence1988]

What does that get anybody? How many $20 apps have you bought? How many aps are even WORTH $20? $20 iphone games? Who does that benefit?

The problem is that companies like EA aren't developing and releasing major titles with full functionality because they aren't going to pour their resources into an app that they know that they won't sell on the current app store model.

On the other hand, everybody that owns a PSP has purchased 20 30 and 40 dollar games, so if they want to make this a major gaming platform with fully functional games they need to allow more expensive apps to stand out on the app store

Possible Games and Apps that could be a part of this $20 premium store?
1. Need For Speed
2. Tiger Woods
3. Slingbox (It's 30 on blackberry, and could be more on the iPhone)
4. Madden?
5. Metal Gear Solid, which was rumored to be nearly complete months ago
6. Microsoft Office, or an Apple Office

[Stately]

All I know is if it tethers, it better be free. There's no way iphone users should be charged extra for something the phone already does on it's own. It's like having a vacuum cleaner for your house, but if you want to use it to vacuum your car and not your home then the Con Ed will charge you because your getting more use from it than they thought you would. In turn they try to find a way to capitalize off of your satisfaction. AT&T is ridiculous. I would love having a video conferencing feature that was speculated for so long as well along with the obvious cut and paste and document editing. The thing is Apple creates great stuff, but I am afraid we might end up paying to use every little feature on the device(s) coming out because of AT&T's greed. :cool:

[fleshman03]

Will tethering be free on iPhone?

No. Think Different Think Expensive (http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/popup/dataconnect-comp-table.jsp)

@ Stately. Look here (http://gizmodo.com/5083320/att-iphone-tethering-to-cost-30month). They are thinking $30 in addition to the regular data plan. Also, a 5gb cap. Meaning for normal people, this is a no-go.

[scottybrown]

PLEASE!!!!!! I get tons a day as a systems engineer, and have no time to delete them all.

[joeshell383]

How about a Genius Phone List that analyzes your conversations and then suggests other iPhone users you don't yet know whom you would probably enjoy talking to? :D

Actually, that idea would be really interesting/fun for lonely/boring times.

[HD303]

I could really care less about the cut and past. Yes it would be nice, but I seem to work around it.

I'd like to see the iphone have capability to accept an .ics file from iCal. also, have the ability to record multiple greeting messages and pick which one to use. "I'm out for a run, back in 45 minutes" "I'm in a meeting, I'll get back to you soon" etc.

Should be fun on Tuesday either way.

[joeshell383]

- MMS: Possible to do through an application. Has, in fact, already been done. There's a fantastic native MMS application on the UK AppStore. Besides, I think people have become used to not having MMS. It's not a big deal any more, and if the predictions that smartphones will account for 50% of the market by 2012 are correct, it's going to be less and less significant.

Those MMS apps don't work with ATT

- Tethering. This actually is likely IMO. Apple's laptops are their flagship products. It makes sense that they'd like to improve them still further by using the iPhone as a data modem. Also, the iPhone is all about mobile connectivity and computing - allowing tethering makes sense as an extension of that. I expect this to work through USB, not bluetooth. Using bluetooth would drain the battery so fast it wouldn't be usable, and I expect this to be facilitated through iTunes, which currently does not support connecting to devices in any way other than USB.

Tethering is nice, but I'd eventually like to see WWAN (3G/4G/WiMax), support integrated into the MacBook lineup. I can't believe that the Air of all of them does not have it. It is designed to be wireless, and does not have an ExpressCard slot, and a lot of the 3G USB sticks won't fit into its sole USB port

- C&P: Dear God, hopefully! A must

I'd also like to see:
- More stable system (esp. Safari) ?
- More informative lock screen Not likely, Apple tends to keep things minimalist, may raise security issues
- Quicker rotation with accelerometer ?
- Landscape views for Mail, SMS, iCal Possible
- Top Sites in MobileSafari That is very resource intensive, I doubt it (for 3.0)
- Flash (duh) Possible
- Proper bluetooth stack ?
- VoiceOver in iPod.App Very likely
- Disk Mode enabled Possible
- AppStore trial versions (full version wrapped in DRM that lets you use it for 3 days) Extremely unlikely
- Ability to check remaining minutes/texts from phone settings ?
- Ability to sync iPhone/Mac software through iTunes syncing ? (not over WiFi)
- Sync iPhone notes Possible

See above.

[cloudnine]

Apologies if this has been stated already (as I'm sure it has), but I can't help but wonder how many ideas Apple is going to steal from Jailbroken applications for the 3.0 OS.

[zioxide]

Call me a PITA dad, but I really want more parental control - maybe even remote administration from the master account on MobileMe. Disable games or certain apps/features if it's past curfew or if they're grounded. Call screening, whitelists, blacklists, for incoming and outgoing calls and SMS. Ability to get location, either 24-hour history, last polled or current, and show in Google Maps. Remotely snap a picture, answer a call (monitoring), or send a siren sound.

Thats just creepy... :eek:

[Stately]

No. Think Different Think Expensive (http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/popup/dataconnect-comp-table.jsp)

@ Stately. Look here (http://gizmodo.com/5083320/att-iphone-tethering-to-cost-30month). They are thinking $30 in addition to the regular data plan. Also, a 5gb cap. Meaning for normal people, this is a no-go.

I'm sorry but that is absolutely ridiculous. Even the richest dude in the world could clearly see that agreeing to something like that would be throwing money away. If that's the case I will not be using that feature. As a matter of fact I am about through with AT&T. The funny thing is, I am not usually one to rant much. I must say though, Apple needs to start looking for other carriers. Yes I knew what I signed up for, but I am now seeing that they continue to increase package prices and hidden fees. :cool:

[Quillz]

I would like 3.0 to add a CandyBar-like app that lets us easily change themes, instead of having to resort to jailbreaking.

[Stately]

I could really care less about the cut and past. Yes it would be nice, but I seem to work around it.

I'd like to see the iphone have capability to accept an .ics file from iCal. also, have the ability to record multiple greeting messages and pick which one to use. "I'm out for a run, back in 45 minutes" "I'm in a meeting, I'll get back to you soon" etc.

Should be fun on Tuesday either way.

Yeah but I guess we are all pretty used to the fluidity that Apple provides normally within their OS. Yeah Tuesday will be cool.

[joeshell383]

or an Apple Office

iWork

[Digital Skunk]

It's good to see that the iPhone 3.0 software may just make it the Pre killer that needs to arise before it's actually released.

I am sure that many of the features that Palm is giving with the Pre will trickle down to the iPhone just in time to save that poor device. I just hope that when Apple does copy Palm's software they at least do it right, and not cripple it like the useless iPhone Bluetooth.

[mpspence1988]

iWork

obviously, my bad

[kitch95]

I will pay for it if it has copy and paste , and also a floder to keeps apps that would be useful

[Bevz]

Now all that lot would make be a very happy bunny! Fingers crossed! Sadly though we've all been here before... Can't help thinking though.. maybe this IS the time ;-)

[inkswamp]

MMS & Tethering requires an entire new OS? Surely not. Still, bring it on! :)

Have you ever done any programming? Do you understand how a major feature like that would be added? It certainly doesn't require a whole new OS, but if Apple is going to implement those feature properly and (presumably) give programmers an API through which to access them as well, they would have to create new frameworks and libraries to handle them. Remember, smart phones are more similar to computer platforms than regular old cell phones. Implementing those features will no doubt take some time and yes, it seems quite reasonable that they would arrive with a major OS update.

[bdubs1975]

copy & paste
mms
forward sms

i'm surprised not many people mention the inability of the iphone to forward sms messages. i find this incredibly infuriating.

my cell phone from three upgrades ago could do all of these.

[paja]

- MMS
- Copy and Paste
- Tethering
- Video Recording.

This is 2009 Apple! Where have you been? You should be ashamed!

3.0 better have these features or I'm switching to the Pre.

[bruinsrme]

MMS to Apple is like Mcdonalds finally after years of complaining from their customers, putting cheese on their burgers

[Jeff.H]

I would just be happy if I could run apps in the background like I have been able to do on my BlackBerries for YEARS!

[Telp]

Already 3.0! This must be big then. I really hope it comes out with background notifications at the very least. Very interested to see what the actual announcements are. Can't wait for tuesday!

[ccrandall77]

I'm glad to hear that these features are probably for the 3.0 release. But it still needs voice dialing!!! My voice dialing app on our Sprint phones is awesome and a necessity if you have to use the phone in the car. I just hit the button on my BT headset and say "call so and so mobile/work/home" and that's it.

I'd also like to see video recording, M$ office support (I think Dataviz is taking care of that, though), and stereo bluetooth. Really, all these features should've been in firmware 1.0 and it shouldn't be a big deal to add it. So, I'm optimistic that 3.0 will finally get me to buy an iPhone.

Still wish there was a CDMA version, though. I like my Sprint service and have 5 lines. Customer services stinks but it's getting better. Really don't want to go back to ATT!

[stevejobbers]

All I know is if it tethers, it better be free. There's no way iphone users should be charged extra for something the phone already does on it's own. It's like having a vacuum cleaner for your house, but if you want to use it to vacuum your car and not your home then the Con Ed will charge you because your getting more use from it than they thought you would. In turn they try to find a way to capitalize off of your satisfaction. AT&T is ridiculous. I would love having a video conferencing feature that was speculated for so long as well along with the obvious cut and paste and document editing. The thing is Apple creates great stuff, but I am afraid we might end up paying to use every little feature on the device(s) coming out because of AT&T's greed. :cool:

thing again. aren't other AT&T tether devices (eg blackberry) already charging separate fees for this ability? and you can already browse the internet on those devices as well.

AT&T will definitely charge extra for this feature, which sucks b/c i could definitely use it but i'm refusing to shell out any more money for it. i guess this is what i get for being a good little apple lemming and not jailbreaking my phone.

[diamond.g]

i'm surprised not many people mention the inability of the iphone to forward sms messages. i find this incredibly infuriating.

my cell phone from three upgrades ago could do all of these.
My wife just complained to me about that like yesterday. All I could do is shrug. I do hope it gets added.

[preservative]

Lets hope this is right. Then all we need are those cool GPS applications! :cool:

[davidbrummy]

Will tethering be free on iPhone?

Yeh and so will the data plan for 3.0. Sorry AT&T are not in the business of giving service away.

Someone said in this thread it is $60. That is impressively high. My Verizion card is $65 a month. I only get 6GB but it is not terrible.

[Sdahe]

Copy and Paste for me and I'm happy!!!

[Bregalad]

I know someone who has run out of space to add any more apps to his iPhone. Something better than the current card based UI is essential now that there are more than 25,000 apps in the store.

Tethering is something that other devices offer, a feature that definitely helps justify those big data plans.

I'd be shocked if after all the negative things Apple has said about MMS they add it.

They've also downplayed the importance of copy/paste, but as the phone grows into a full document management tool lack of copy/paste will go from being a minor inconvenience to a major pain in the neck.

[jcb10]

If you are able to use AirSharing doesn't that mean you have a WiFi network available? If so, can't you just email the thing off of your laptop, why are you moving it to the iPhone.

You don't need to already be on a wi-fi network to transfer to/from AirSharing -- you can create one from your laptop, thus enabling the file transfer. But you're still not on the Internet, leaving my problem intact.

[MacVixen]

MMS to Apple is like Mcdonalds finally after years of complaining from their customers, putting cheese on their burgers

Now the funny thing about that is that I HATED when McDonald's did that. Now I have to special order just to get a hamburger without cheese. :rolleyes:

I guess iit just goes to show, you can't please all of the people all of the time.

[QCassidy352]

this thread just proves the futility of trying to please all of the people all of the time. Not only do people all want different features but some "features" are actually negatives to some posters (e.g. the guy who opposes even a tethering option b/c it would cripple the network).

Now imagine being apple and trying to make everyone happy. I hope the poor iphone software engineers don't read these boards.

[preservative]

Yeh and so will the data plan for 3.0. Sorry AT&T are not in the business of giving service away.

Someone said in this thread it is $60. That is impressively high. My Verizion card is $65 a month. I only get 6GB but it is not terrible.

I have an unlimited tariff which I'm marooned on at the moment. If the service provider changes the terms and conditions of the contract then I can get out of the contract. Hopefully this new OS 3.0 will make the iphone what it should have been in the first place.

What could happen if tethering is allowed is that the providers may pull the unlimited tariffs and go for capped ones like mentioned above with a limited download.

The providers can always bum you with the 'fair usage' policy however :(

[marine610610]

Verizon :apple: Verizon :apple:Verizon :apple: Verizon..... :D

[mac*jedi*g]

is a half-way decent voice dial interface to your BlueTooth headset! There are some ok apps VD Apps out there, but this feature needs to be native to the iPhone. :eek: I can't be yelling at my phone while driving so that my VD can take me to a list. NO Pressing a button on the screen! If other cellphones can do this without eating a whole lot of space, THIS can be done on the iPhone. Stop playing!

[fleshman03]

I'm sorry but that is absolutely ridiculous. Even the richest dude in the world could clearly see that agreeing to something like that would be throwing money away. If that's the case I will not be using that feature. As a matter of fact I am about through with AT&T. The funny thing is, I am not usually one to rant much. I must say though, Apple needs to start looking for other carriers. Yes I knew what I signed up for, but I am now seeing that they continue to increase package prices and hidden fees. :cool:

That my friend, is why I've put off getting an iPhone for so long. I love T-Mobile and really am not looking forward to having to deal with ATT again. (When they were originally ATT, it was awesome stuff. Since Cingular took them over, it is crap-o-la all around.)

And yes; I feel like John McCain for saying "my friend."

[stevejobbers]

You don't need to already be on a wi-fi network to transfer to/from AirSharing -- you can create one from your laptop, thus enabling the file transfer. But you're still not on the Internet, leaving my problem intact.

can you explain how to do this if it's not to much trouble? i have a macbook and would love this feature to move pictures around while on the go. thanks!

[ptsube]

Where is A2DP?

[jweinraub]

I would love to have a Phoneless iPod Touch, for a 3rd Gen iPod.


Bluetooth
GPS
Camera
Perhaps, for an additional service fee, a 3G chip to add to data plan (non-voice)

[Mal]

can you explain how to do this if it's not to much trouble? i have a macbook and would love this feature to move pictures around while on the go. thanks!

On your Mac, click on the Airport icon, then select "Create Network...". Enter a name or leave the default, then join that network from your iPod touch or iPhone, and you're on!

I would love to have a Phoneless iPod Touch, for a 3rd Gen iPod.


Bluetooth
GPS

Both will likely happen eventually, though GPS is more likely than Bluetooth (depending on other changes, though, they may find a must-have use for Bluetooth on the iPod touch, but Jobs was very negative on A2DP headphones previously).

Camera

Also possible, but unlikely. I'd appreciate it though, if I were able to go buy another touch. It'd just be a novelty mostly right now though.

Perhaps, for an additional service fee, a 3G chip to add to data plan (non-voice)
[/LIST]

No offense, but it's not going to happen. You might find them adding a plan for the iPhone that is a data-only, but if you add a "3G chip", you're turning into a phone, and they already make one of those.

jW

[iPaf]

What the *******? A digital compass... Give us turn-by-turn GPS compatibility!

[OrangeCuse44]

I would just be happy if I could run apps in the background like I have been able to do on my BlackBerries for YEARS!

This is ALL I want. PUSH pleeeeeeeaaaaasssssseeee.

[diamond.g]

What the *******? A digital compass... Give us turn-by-turn GPS compatibility!

A digital compass doesn't require the good old magnetic needle...

[SocomDude23]

again is matter of OS efficiency...128mb of RAM should be enough for all that in a mature mobile OS

i am hoping a jump from 2.x to means 3.x means there deep improvements on the OS base code, and not just minor patching, so that everything uses less RAM, and there is more free RAM for 3rd party apps and general multitasking

My JailBroken IPhone Has Video Recording

[twoodcc]

i agree that the home screen needs an update. can't wait to see what they've come up with!

[fleshman03]

So... am I the only one who sees a lot of software being updated?

iPhone
Pro Apps
iTunes


.......

Maybe it's a build up for WWDC + SL release?

[spiritlevel]

When I first got my iPhone, I spent ages trying to figure out how to send a picture sms - I eventually gave up thinking I must be an idiot for not being able to do it - I just didn't cross my mind that my "state of the art" phone could not do something I took for granted on my previous phones.

I was actually quite relieved when I eventually found out it was the phone, not me...

MMS - better late than never in my book.

Copy and paste would be great too..and tethering..and deleting individual texts.

[xerenthar]

text forwarding maybe

[sd2009]

Safari 4. There will be a top sites feature just like the real Safari.

Apple are never going to add MMS to the iPhone.

The 3rd generation iPhone will have a FAR better camera, but there will be no video recording UNLESS there is a focus on new video features (i.e., video chat/camera on front)

There's also the possibility that apps will be allowed DIRECT ACCESS to the camera. This way, Apple won't be admitting that they were wrong in missing out such a simple feature (video recording) while 3rd party apps would easily allow for it.

The idea of a PREMIUM store mentioned by someone earlier sounds good at first. But would be a mistake. The "Featured" apps section will be used like this, and a heavier emphasis will be put on it.

[jazz1]

No matter how they roll out tethering we will be paying for the honor right? Either it will be a monthly service charge and/or metered GB usage. Frankly a netbook or larger IPT are not very useful unless you have always on Internet. But we are going to pay play. Is the 3G pipeline even fat enough to take on the increase in traffic "always on" devices will create? Don't get me wrong, I want it but I guess I don't want it bad enough to double my ATT bill.

If that were the case I'd flip for a new netbook with 3G and get a plain old cell phone with no data package. If they even exist anymore ;)

[randomusername]

i'm surprised not many people mention the inability of the iphone to forward sms messages. i find this incredibly infuriating.

my cell phone from three upgrades ago could do all of these.

Well, with copy and paste you would just be able to copy the message and send it. So I think forwarding is covered with copy/paste.


I think the software will bring a lot to the current features it has, too. Sure, I'm expecting Multi-tasking (Expose and spotlight on the iPhone, please *crosses fingers*), copy/paste, etc. But I'm also expecting many changes in the texting app, mail app, a few tweaks in Safari and a new home screen.

[Mr Maui]

I've been amused by the combination of emotions and comments throughout this thread. Some people love MMS, some hate it. Some want tethering, some don't. Most seem to want copy and paste (around since 1984 on the Mac as one poster pointed out). But one thing I've noticed throughout my life. You can please some of the people most of the time. You can please most of the people some of the time. You can never please all of the people all of the time. And then there are those select few whom you can NEVER PLEASE ... EVER!!! Hand them everything they want on a silver platter, and they will complain that the platter was not gold.

Another little thing I noticed while scrolling through the 214 prior posts. Only Arn and Mal appear to have been on MR longer than I. :eek: I feel like a senior citizen out there in the MR world. ;)

[Aviator TR]

People,

I've been reading forums, discussions for a very very long time period. Everything talked, discussed, we are happy to see that :apple: will bring some old fashioned features to our "state of mind" Iphone. However, those features should already have been built in Iphone maybe years ago.. MMS, C&P, Springboard foldering, Flash Player, a real bluetooth and of course radio reciever.. But some of them will come hopefully.. I had written a mail to Iphone STK team for some other features... Like;

Message box, distinguished as

**inbox
**outbox
**sent
**deleted

Phonebook distinguished as

Simcard or phone memory selection
Memory Status

And also, I wonder when I talk with phone, I decrease the volume and then it keeps the phone's ringtones at the same level as on-call volume.. this is not good. sometimes you can not hear the ringtone if you don't re-set it..

Finally, we should see our call durations, sent sms' not sum of the calls and datas. I want to know incoming call duration, outgoing call duration, sms sent counter..

A question: What do you mean by push services? Don't you get mails in real time? you always have to check your mail inbox? Please inform me for that.. Thanks people!



*** I have 8GB black Iphone 3G***

[macfilm]

Sorry for sounding like a pleb but what the hell is 'copy and paste' useful for on an iPhone, what is it and how is it used???

MMS sounds great though!

[kdarling]

What the *******? A digital compass... Give us turn-by-turn GPS compatibility!

Don't need a compass for t-b-t GPS. Car/plane GPS units figure out the direction from your movement.

DO want a compass for other stuff, like being able to turn around in place on a street corner and see updated data for the buildings you're facing... or outdoors, for the scenery you're facing.

[Mr Maui]

People,

I've been reading forums, discussions for a very very long time period. Everything talked, discussed, we are happy to see that :apple: will bring some old fashioned features to our "state of mind" Iphone. However, those features should already have been built in Iphone maybe years ago.. MMS, C&P, Springboard foldering, Flash Player, a real bluetooth and of course radio reciever.. But some of them will come hopefully.. I had written a mail to Iphone STK team for some other features... Like;

Message box, distinguished as

**inbox
**outbox
**sent
**deleted

Phonebook distinguished as

Simcard or phone memory selection
Memory Status

And also, I wonder when I talk with phone, I decrease the volume and then it keeps the phone's ringtones at the same level as on-call volume.. this is not good. sometimes you can not hear the ringtone if you don't re-set it..

Finally, we should see our call durations, sent sms' not sum of the calls and datas. I want to know incoming call duration, outgoing call duration, sms sent counter..

A question: What do you mean by push services? Don't you get mails in real time? you always have to check your mail inbox? Please inform me for that.. Thanks people!



*** I have 8GB black Iphone 3G***

Why not just be satisfied that some of these things may be coming now. Slamming Apple because they have not been there sooner is pointless now. It seems like many people (15m+) have purchased and used the iPhone, even while knowing that these features did not exist. Apple wants to design the products the way they want to. They then adjust them to help improve sales, effectiveness, etc. I agree that there are somple feature that would ne extremely nice or useful on the iPhone, but the best recourse for people if they do not like the missing features is ... Don't Buy!

As for the radio receiver ... not a chance. Sirius XM is offering an app in the App Store soon that will allow you to go satellite versus receiver. I'd personally rather get Sirius broadcasts worldwide versus a few stations in the area I'm located.

[Donz0r]

No matter how they roll out tethering we will be paying for the honor right? Either it will be a monthly service charge and/or metered GB usage. Frankly a netbook or larger IPT are not very useful unless you have always on Internet. But we are going to pay play. Is the 3G pipeline even fat enough to take on the increase in traffic "always on" devices will create? Don't get me wrong, I want it but I guess I don't want it bad enough to double my ATT bill.

If that were the case I'd flip for a new netbook with 3G and get a plain old cell phone with no data package. If they even exist anymore ;)

If they add tethering it will be an extra $5 a month just like it is for any other smartphone. the iPhone data plan is the same as every att smartphone, which is $30 for data and $35 for data w/ tethering

[iSurgeon]

When I first got my iPhone, I spent ages trying to figure out how to send a picture sms - I eventually gave up thinking I must be an idiot for not being able to do it - I just didn't cross my mind that my "state of the art" phone could not do something I took for granted on my previous phones.

I was actually quite relieved when I eventually found out it was the phone, not me...

MMS - better late than never in my book.

Copy and paste would be great too..and tethering..and deleting individual texts.


Why do people want MMS? Just send photos via email and tell your friends to do the same. Most cell phones can do this. This way, you can see the photo on your computer, iPhone, iPod Touch ... whatever. This is much nicer than the crappy MMS system.

There seem to be many incompatibilities/problems in the MMS system, both intra-carrier and inter-carrier.

MMS ... I know everyone else uses it, but ... it's just s-o-o-o 1990s! MMS is NOT state-of-the-art and has no place on the iPhone.

[jimmypockets]

personally, i can't see ATT being ok with tethering. that would make it so you would only have to pay for one 3G service as opposed to two separate ones.

based on what i pay a month for my iphone, im sure if tethering ever does come, you'll have to pay extra for it.

[jazz1]

If they add tethering it will be an extra $5 a month just like it is for any other smartphone. the iPhone data plan is the same as every att smartphone, which is $30 for data and $35 for data w/ tethering

That would be great! I assume there are data usage caps. I know I would be surfing more if I could do it on a tethered laptop. Thanks for the info.

[MikeTheC]

What the *******? A digital compass... Give us turn-by-turn GPS compatibility!
Screw GPS. Give me a sundial!

[DoubleU]

Sorry for sounding like a pleb but what the hell is 'copy and paste' useful for on an iPhone, what is it and how is it used???

MMS sounds great though!

Essentially whenever one app has access to text that would be useful to have included in another app; such as adding locations to Calendar events; I might find address details on the Internet or in Contacts but the only way to get them into my Calendar is by writing them down and typing them in. Any of the apps that allow free text notes can only have those fields populated by typing. As for the how, whenever a new version of the iPhone firmware is released several apparently viable gesture based options get posited on MR.

[macfilm]

Essentially whenever one app has access to text that would be useful to have included in another app; such as adding locations to Calendar events; I might find address details on the Internet or in Contacts but the only way to get them into my Calendar is by writing them down and typing them in. Any of the apps that allow free text notes can only have those fields populated by typing. As for the how, whenever a new version of the iPhone firmware is released several apparently viable gesture based options get posited on MR.

Oh ok, cool thanks!

[joemama]

Why do people want MMS? Just send photos via email and tell your friends to do the same. Most cell phones can do this.

There seem to be many incompatibilities/problems in the MMS system, both intra-carrier and inter-carrier.

MMS ... I know everyone else uses it, but ... it's just s-o-o-o 1990s! MMS is NOT state-of-the-art and has no place on the iPhone.

What star trek world do you live in??? Most cell phones don't do email. Everyone I know sends photo texts with MMS, not email. And there are no problems between (major) carriers. And it's not 1990...Most phones didn't get MMS until 5/6 years ago.

BTW - does anyone else here want the nike+ sensor built into the iPhone (like the iPTouch)? I know it requires a hardware upgrade, but then you have the ultimate device.

[drewsky5]

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It's been really funny to read through all of these posts. Most people talk like they are so sure that this feature or that feature is coming. No one knows outside of Apple and it is all just going to be guesses until Tuesday. I love all of the jailbreakers saying that jailbreaking has cured all of their problems. I had my iPhone jailbroken for a while, and I went back because EVERYTHING ran slower and the extra "features" weren't a that they were cracked up to be. I rarely used any of them, and some of the features (like c&p) was poorly implemented and it just drove me crazy. MMS would be nice because most people don't know how to send email from their phone (if they can) I have phone email addresses stored in my contacts, but that doesn't solve the problem of receiving them. Everyone should just chill our and wait for Tuesday. That way we won't get ourselves all hyped up over possible little updates (like when the 3G came out)

[joeshell383]

Perhaps, for an additional service fee, a 3G chip to add to data plan (non-voice)


Jailbreakers would Skype the iPod touch and opt out of getting iPhone.

[Uh Clem]

I'm surprised no one else has mentioned keychain support. That's up near the top of my wish list.

[Bye Bye Baby]

Is MMS so vital?

[jazz1]

Essentially whenever one app has access to text that would be useful to have included in another app; such as adding locations to Calendar events; I might find address details on the Internet or in Contacts but the only way to get them into my Calendar is by writing them down and typing them in. Any of the apps that allow free text notes can only have those fields populated by typing. As for the how, whenever a new version of the iPhone firmware is released several apparently viable gesture based options get posited on MR.

I wouldn't go back to my BB 8830, but I used to be able to turn e-mails into to-do and calendar events with details of the e-mails so when they came due I could review what needed to be addressed.

[joeshell383]

What star trek world do you live in??? Most cell phones don't do email. Everyone I know sends photo texts with MMS, not email. And there are no problems between (major) carriers. And it's not 1990...Most phones didn't get MMS until 5/6 years ago.

BTW - does anyone else here want the nike+ sensor built into the iPhone (like the iPTouch)? I know it requires a hardware upgrade, but then you have the ultimate device.

I agree that it needs to be implemented. Of course, some may not use it, but there are existing features that some don't use too, it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be in place for those who do use them. It's software--- it doesn't hurt anybody to include these features--- especially since Apple is on an optimization streak right now.

Even between iPhones, sending picture messages is very slow, a pain and clumsy (and I don't want a bunch of "fun" pics in my always full inbox/sent box--- keep play for play (SMS/MMS) and business for business (Mail.app).

As far as Nike+, some claim that additional hardware is NOT required (that Nike+ would work with the existing bluetooth capabilities in the phone).

[kastenbrust]

MMS, tethering... Wow, welcome to 2003! :-P

I hope there is more up Apple's sleeve. The Pre hype train is starting to pick up speed and needs to be stopped. I'm excited for this event.

I had MMS and tethering over a decade ago. Well done Apple.

[DrEwe]

For me, MMS would be great. When roaming in Canada, ATT has an horrendous data roaming charge, but I would still like to torment my colleagues in the US with images of powdery slopes and blue skies on the rare occasions they occur :) - Texting is 50c per text and MMS would probably be a little more, but I would not have to turn on data roaming.

Why do people want MMS? Just send photos via email and tell your friends to do the same.

MMS ... I know everyone else uses it, but ... it's just s-o-o-o 1990s! MMS is NOT state-of-the-art and has no place on the iPhone.

[DrEwe]

I'm surprised no one else has mentioned keychain support. That's up near the top of my wish list.

+1

[kdarling]

Why do people want MMS? Just send photos via email and tell your friends to do the same. Most cell phones can do this. This way, you can see the photo on your computer, iPhone, iPod Touch ... whatever. This is much nicer than the crappy MMS system.

1) The same bogus argument can be used against SMS.

2) The iPhone's email client is as bad as MMS... it knocks every picture down to 0.3 MP before sending it. So in no way should anyone claim it's better than MMS.

3) Both MMS and SMS use no extra battery while waiting for a message Push, unlike the other so-called "push" mechanisms for phone email (leaving out RIM here).

4) Most of the world doesn't have a data plan for email, although some carriers have their own tiny email mechanism.

5) That Apple, a so-called UI expert, should have implemented the utterly ridiculous MMS retrieval that is used now on the iPhone and ATT, only makes them look bad.

[MacFly123]

Why do we only talk about pictures when referring to MMS on the iPhone when MMS on any other phone also includes sending VIDEOS. Hence MULTIMEDIA MESSAGING SERVICE!!! Multi as in more than one, as in not just pictures, as in video as well!!!

Don't tell me Apple will honestly add MMS with ONLY pictures and then wait another year to add VIDEO.

I want:

-MMS pictures and video
-Video capture and MobileMe/YouTube uploading
-Copy Paste
-New home screen interface/navigation
-Push
-Universal landscape keyboard
-Wireless sync
-All video/movie/tv content added to the iPhone iTunes store
-iChat with front facing camera on the new iPhone in June
-Slightly lax standards on the new SDK to allow true gps apps with turn by turn and more innovation etc.
- BlueTooth A2DP

Here's to hoping! :D

[t0mat0]

Er - has everyone mostly missed the Magenetometer info?

...there has been evidence in the latest version of Snow Leopard's CoreLocation framework (which is shared by the iPhone) that Apple is building in support for magnetometers, which could suggest the use of a digital compass in future devices, much like the Android G1.

If it's true, that is HUGE potentially.
Tonchidot
Enkin ( who have been *very* quiet for a few months. GOOG / AAPL buy out? http://androidguys.com/?p=2174 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/04/22/interview-enkin-augmented-reality-for-googles-android.html)
Sat Nav
Google Latitude
Google Maps
Google Street View

Your phone new v3 iPhone would know which direction you were facing. And where you were. Add in strong GPU, and a video camera?

Wow. Castles in the sky just got hinted to be closer. We'll see. But I say that Enkin would push C&P desire into a cocked hat.
If Google can help do Mars and Earth in Google app, if there wasn't a competition legal problem, why not branch out into mapping?

Enkin video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V6MNp_tWG0

[jet-man]

Universal landscape keyboard is a must have!

[megfilmworks]

Copy and Paste = Progressive?

Copy and Paste was STANDARD in the 1984 release of the original Mac 128k

Mac 128k = 8 MHz + 128 k RAM - 342x512 b&w - 16.5 lbs
iPhone 3G = 412 MHz + 16 gb RAM - 320x480 color - 4.7 oz

Not in general, just commenting on the iPhone.
It is a progressive move for the iPhone.
MMS is a regressive move for the iPhone.

[Sehnsucht]

First there is no USB port on an iPhone. Secondly, access to the hardware has not much to do with the SDK, you have to pay for a license.

I believe he meant the dock connector. ;)

[kdarling]

MMS, c&p, tethering... blah blah blah.

Seriously, this is the best that y'all can come up with? Minor updates to bring the iPhone up to par with the features that other smartphones have had for years?

Where's the imagination? What about UI integration, like folding all info and correspondence (mail, phone, text, calendar) for a single contact into one location. What about innovations such as the entire phone and its search engines changing their personality depending on your location and time of day and your calendar entries? How about being like the Pre and actively gathering information depending on your calendar?

When the iPhone was announced, I figured that Apple, of all companies, would've put a lot of thought into an ingenious new UI. What we got was a 1980s grid of icons and a DOS-like single-application-running system with some glitz.

I want to see something radically different. Something that doesn't require the user to do all the work. Something that thinks ahead for me, knows my habits, quietly helps me out.

Am I alone in these desires? Not just from Apple, from anyone.

[eyefoniac]

MMS, c&p, tethering... blah blah blah.

Seriously, this is the best that y'all can come up with? Minor updates to bring the iPhone up to par with the features that other smartphones have had for years?

Where's the imagination? What about UI integration, like folding all info and correspondence (mail, phone, text, calendar) for a single contact into one location. What about innovations such as the entire phone and its search engines changing their personality depending on your location and time of day and your calendar entries? How about being like the Pre and actively gathering information depending on your calendar?

When the iPhone was announced, I figured that Apple, of all companies, would've put a lot of thought into an ingenious new UI. What we got was a 1980s grid of icons and a DOS-like single-application-running system with some glitz.

I want to see something radically different. Something that doesn't require the user to do all the work. Something that thinks ahead for me, knows my habits, quietly helps me out.

Am I alone in these desires? Not just from Apple, from anyone.

I have to say you make a good point. It would be nice for Apple to dazzle and surprise us, not just integrate some of the major requests, but to go over the top and bring Christmas early ;-)

[t0mat0]

MMS, c&p, tethering... blah blah blah.

Seriously, this is the best that y'all can come up with? SNIP

Where's the imagination? SNIP

I want to see something radically different. Something that doesn't require the user to do all the work. Something that thinks ahead for me, knows my habits, quietly helps me out.

Am I alone in these desires? Not just from Apple, from anyone.

Nope. Not alone.

Apple's had a year. If they're doing yearly updates of the hardware, we should rightly be expecting a lot, and the software to use this, but to also bring improvemnts to the 1st gen and 2nd gen iPhones.

Arguments over MMS are stupid, in relation to what they could offer. I'd say that integration is likely to come strong. Will they change the interface? we'll see. The current interface, though seemingly cute, is also useful by being not overly complex. It's a tradeoff by virtue of the size of the device, and what it's being designed to be able to do.

Pre like features are likely to be coming. OS 2.0 was Leopard. we're still waiting to hear what OS 3 will be based off. They could have changed Cocoa Touch etc, for all we know .Tuesday will shed a bit of light on this.

Apple is going to take people along with them to new OS interfaces/features. See how they slowly added multi=touch gestures. They don't want to freak out there non-uber technical customers with too many options etc. They've likely had to do a lot of background groundwork to get new features ready.
Remember the boos and the hoos about the boring WWDC keynote that brought in the iPhone 3G (it was after an hour of talking!)? It brought in a fair lot actually, features that seem a lot more relevant now. Apple will hopefully have stuff to dazzle us. Sometimes we can't see initially that they're solid features.

Wifi syncing.
Turn by turn sat nav
Enkin like Latitude/ augmented reality app
New UI
Better file and app management
Data integration - unified view of upcoming information
Video creation
Use of Bonjour for iPhone to iPhone iphone to PC communication / ad hoc network creation
Location based services
OLED screen at better size/resolution
Possible off screen multitouch
Magnetometer(s) for cardinal direction, GPS/accelerometers for velocity etc
Offline use - Desire for more implementation of HTML 5 features.
Better app management.
Improvement on Visuals - if we're getting a decent graphics update - why not get a way to have a iPhone connection to monitor cable to output to HD levels?
Push Notification Service
Initial go at giving more background applications / app syncing
Live previews of web sites used / favorites. Some more Safari 4 style way or Pre way to pick site to go to. Predictive page loading if you regularly wake up at the same time= it precaches a recent page or similar.
Tighter integration to 10.6 features.
Better speaker/speakerphone
etc/

[dwsolberg]

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... I had my iPhone jailbroken for a while, and I went back because EVERYTHING ran slower and the extra "features" weren't all that they were cracked up to be. I rarely used any of them, and some of the features (like c&p) was poorly implemented and it just drove me crazy. ...

When will people realize this?!? Apple prevents background applications or copy/paste because these "features" make phones slow and buggy and a pain to use for the other 99% of the population.

[Saladinos]

See above.

Yea, so the MMS apps don't work through AT&T. O2 managed to set up a web API, and the developers said they were interested in talking with carriers about adding support for their systems.

WWAN isn't as good as tethering your iPhone. Not from a customer's perspective, as it adds monthly charges and adds to the cost of the product, and not from Apple's perspective, as the alternative would give people yet another incentive to buy an iPhone, and the extra radio would add to the cost of the product. If I can tether my laptop for free using my existing contract, why would I pay just to give the radio in my laptop an exercise?

Stability improvements are a must. The old iPhone (1.X) was like a rock - you couldn't make it give no matter what you threw at it. The new 2.X softwares are more like jelly by comparison. Safari is a clear example of this - it used to be fine, but now we have developers claiming they cannot add browsers to their applications because of memory leaks in Safari's code. Random sites crash at random times. This can't go on: we need reliability. We also need some speed improvements: please do away with the cycle of scrolling down a page in Safari and waiting until it renders over the checkerboard: just make it there when we scroll to it!

Rotating applications with the accelerometer is also pretty slow. Other phones, such as the Pre or Storm, are much quicker, and give a more responsive feel.

Top Sites in MobileSafari doesn't have to be an exact copy of the desktop version. I do expect some variation on it in the new Safari, though.

I'd also really like there to be some system where iPhone and Mac versions of the same app (say, Papers) could sync data with each other when I plug my iPhone in to iTunes. Why do I have to connect the iPhone with WiFi and make them sync using their custom software? It's cumbersome, especially whilst travelling, and is a pain if you want to sync multiple applications.

[thomahawk]

this is looking great! i cant wait for the new update. although i dont have an iphone. maybe the update for organization in categories on the ipod touch will be nice!

if its good. i may perhaps leave my blackberry for an iphone. hmmmmmmm!

[dwsolberg]

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[t0mat0]

SNIP ... of the same app (say, Papers) could sync data with each other when I plug my iPhone in to iTunes. Why do I have to connect the iPhone with WiFi and make them sync using their custom software? It's cumbersome, especially whilst travelling, and is a pain if you want to sync multiple applications.

Would be interesting to hear mek en tosj's opinion. hopefully there will be a better way though to sync multiple devices just a button or autosync every x minutes to do it over all apps. If they could push it to Apple that would be useful. Maybe they'll offer the feature for those with MobileMe? ...

Some would say just plugging iPhone into iTunes is cumbersome.

[TuffLuffJimmy]

When will people realize this?!? Apple prevents background applications or copy/paste because these "features" make phones slow and buggy and a pain to use for the other 99% of the population.

How would copy and paste do this? and if you don't want background apps don't let them run in the background. Just kill it when you're done.