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joeshell383
Mar 16, 2009, 11:28 AM
The 2010 Camaro is officially in full production!

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2009/03/2010-Chevy-Camaro-RS-Live3.jpg

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090316/AUTO01/903160373

General Motors Corp. said today the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro will achieve 29 miles per gallon on the highway, according to final EPA testing.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090316/AUTO01/903160390/1148

Looks like a very impressive vehicle for the price!

www.chevrolet.com/camaro



quagmire
Mar 16, 2009, 11:32 AM
That is the V6 version with 304 HP.

Too bad I want the SS with the RS package that goes 0-60 in 4.7 seconds. :cool:

GSMiller
Mar 16, 2009, 01:33 PM
Love it.

suprdave1
Mar 16, 2009, 01:52 PM
I like the Challenger, myself (can't beat the sound of a hemi) but I'll admit that's one fine looking car.

If this is about the V6, then when does the V8 start production?

quagmire
Mar 16, 2009, 02:01 PM
I like the Challenger, myself (can't beat the sound of a hemi) but I'll admit that's one fine looking car.

If this is about the V6, then when does the V8 start production?

Both start at the same time( in matter of fact the vehicles spotted at the Oshawa plant have been mostly SS's).

I disagree with the Hemi. Nothing beats the sound of a Chevy Small Block V8.

Abstract
Mar 16, 2009, 02:32 PM
What, no V4?

bryantsiphone
Mar 16, 2009, 02:34 PM
yes indeed, should have them at my work in the next week or two, but there all sold, so i wont get to drive any of the six we are getting.

obeygiant
Mar 16, 2009, 02:56 PM
I've seen three of these on the road so far. Maroon, white and silver. Looks mean!

Lord Blackadder
Mar 16, 2009, 04:49 PM
Thank you GM for putting an independent suspension in the car. Ford, are you listening? :rolleyes:

Visually, I think it's pretty good, though it is a retro-look car. Engine options look OK, though any Mustang or Camaro with a V6 is a poser, regardless of engine output.

Overall it looks like a good car. But for my money, I'd go with a GTI, Evo, 370Z or even a base Corvette, depending on which model Camaro you're looking at.

What, no V4?

Well, the engines feature cylinder deactivation technology, so for highway cruising it is technically a V4. ;)

hexonxonx
Mar 16, 2009, 06:40 PM
So how is GM able to produce this car? I thought the performance division was going to have to shut down as a condition of the bailout? Supposedly this is to force GM to start producing fuel efficient cars and this hardly qualifys. I know the Cobalt SS Turbocharged car is one that will cease.

I believe this effects all SS versions as I mentioned already the SS Cobalt, HHR and others.

joeshell383
Mar 16, 2009, 06:58 PM
So how is GM able to produce this car? I thought the performance division was going to have to shut down as a condition of the bailout? Supposedly this is to force GM to start producing fuel efficient cars and this hardly qualifys. I know the Cobalt SS Turbocharged car is one that will cease.

I believe this effects all SS versions as I mentioned already the SS Cobalt, HHR and others.

http://www.motorauthority.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-and-corvette-zr1-are-safe-despite-disbanding-of-gm-performance-division.html

Mr. Giver '94
Mar 16, 2009, 07:00 PM
Oh great, another crappy remake of a classic car. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


Just what we need in this market... :eek::rolleyes:

Lord Blackadder
Mar 16, 2009, 07:02 PM
Just what we need in this market... :eek::rolleyes:

To be fair, the car was designed (at great expense) long before the current economic situation manifested itself.

quagmire
Mar 16, 2009, 07:26 PM
So how is GM able to produce this car? I thought the performance division was going to have to shut down as a condition of the bailout? Supposedly this is to force GM to start producing fuel efficient cars and this hardly qualifys. I know the Cobalt SS Turbocharged car is one that will cease.

I believe this effects all SS versions as I mentioned already the SS Cobalt, HHR and others.

It was never a condition of the loan and it doesn't effect any current SS's or V's. Or any close to launch like the Camaro.

Mr. lax
Mar 16, 2009, 07:36 PM
What, no V4?

Its a muscle car, i don't think a V4 is the right direction

dukebound85
Mar 16, 2009, 07:37 PM
What, no V4?

v4 lol you mean i4?

Lord Blackadder
Mar 16, 2009, 08:02 PM
v4 lol you mean i4?

The V4 is a rare configuration, but it does exist. I don't think there is a V4 currently in production though. The inline 4 is smoother.

Abstract
Mar 16, 2009, 10:14 PM
Well, the engines feature cylinder deactivation technology, so for highway cruising it is technically a V4. ;)

What, no V2?



And why are people actually responding to me. I was joking. :p

SactoGuy18
Mar 16, 2009, 10:37 PM
Actually, the new Camaro with that 3.5-liter V6 engine is faster and more powerful than the vast majority of Camaros produced in the past 25 years! I mean think about it: only the very top end Camaros with the big 5.7-liter V8 engine had more power than the 2010 Camaro with the V6 engine, and the fuel economy is definitely way poorer on the older models, too! (It does help the new Camaro essentially uses the same excellent drivetrain found on the Cadillac CTS sedan.)

mkrishnan
Mar 16, 2009, 10:40 PM
The V4 is a rare configuration, but it does exist. I don't think there is a V4 currently in production though. The inline 4 is smoother.

There are lots of boxer fours in production too. :)

Anyway, I don't know. Maybe it'll sell... 29MPG / highway is not so bad for this kind of car with that kind of muscle. But I'd still like to see GM make something credible in the C-segment....

Lord Blackadder
Mar 16, 2009, 11:20 PM
And why are people actually responding to me. I was joking. :p

Because I'm a big enough car fanatic to know about the existence of the V4..:o

It's no laughing matter! ;)

There are lots of boxer fours in production too. :)

True, I own one myself. Not a Porsche, unfortunately.

Anyway, I don't know. Maybe it'll sell... 29MPG / highway is not so bad for this kind of car with that kind of muscle. But I'd still like to see GM make something credible in the C-segment....

So would I. GM seems to find it nearly impossible to biuild a decent small car. I'd rather buy a Fiat when they come to the US than wait for GM to finally get it right. But I hope they do get it right at some point.

We shouldn't place too much blame on the Camaro when looking at GM's waywardness though. There are plenty of other, more important factors.

quagmire
Mar 16, 2009, 11:30 PM
So would I. GM seems to find it nearly impossible to biuild a decent small car. I'd rather buy a Fiat when they come to the US than wait for GM to finally get it right. But I hope they do get it right at some point.

We shouldn't place too much blame on the Camaro when looking at GM's waywardness though. There are plenty of other, more important factors.

The Cruze is looking to be a decent car. Why GM didn't launch it here first I have no idea because the Cruze is need here more then in Europe.

Lord Blackadder
Mar 16, 2009, 11:36 PM
The Cruze is looking to be a decent car.

Decent car, perhaps. But a STUPID name, if you ask me. Who came up with that one? :confused:

GSMiller
Mar 16, 2009, 11:52 PM
Actually, the new Camaro with that 3.5-liter V6 engine is faster and more powerful than the vast majority of Camaros produced in the past 25 years! I mean think about it: only the very top end Camaros with the big 5.7-liter V8 engine had more power than the 2010 Camaro with the V6 engine, and the fuel economy is definitely way poorer on the older models, too! (It does help the new Camaro essentially uses the same excellent drivetrain found on the Cadillac CTS sedan.)

Quite true. I find it pretty impressive that the V6 Camaro produces the same amount of power as the 5th generation Mustang GT (although I think the revised 2010 GT may have slightly more HP, but nowhere near as much as the SS).

LeoFio
Mar 17, 2009, 12:01 AM
Thank you GM for putting an independent suspension in the car. Ford, are you listening? :rolleyes:



I'll say! Nothing like going over an angled bump with my mustang...haha


IMO the new camaro looks like a toy car, not to say it doesn't look nice, but it just doesn't look real...can't put my finger on it. My loyalty still lies with the mustang though. Even if it has less HP stock, it weighs less than the camaro and challenger, and Ford made the 2010 model 20% more aerodynamically efficient over the previous model. All it needs is an independent rear suspension!

quagmire
Mar 17, 2009, 12:09 AM
I'll say! Nothing like going over an angled bump with my mustang...haha


IMO the new camaro looks like a toy car, not to say it doesn't look nice, but it just doesn't look real...can't put my finger on it. My loyalty still lies with the mustang though. Even if it has less HP stock, it weighs less than the camaro and challenger, and Ford made the 2010 model 20% more aerodynamically efficient over the previous model. All it needs is an independent rear suspension!

And to ditch the POS Modular V8! A muscle car/sports car is nothing without the engine under the hood, and the current V8 under the Mustang is a POS. The Boss V8 can't come soon enough( shame it isn't OHV though. :( )

rhsgolfer33
Mar 17, 2009, 01:02 AM
True, I own one myself. Not a Porsche, unfortunately.

I believe the Porsche is a boxer 6 not a boxer 4 anyways. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The Camaro looks pretty cool. For me its one of the more visually appealing products Chevy has put out in a while. Now if only they'd redo the corvette rearend and interior.

takao
Mar 17, 2009, 05:58 AM
The Cruze is looking to be a decent car. Why GM didn't launch it here first I have no idea because the Cruze is need here more then in Europe.

the chevrolet lancetti is in dire need of a replacement...
why it's not it the US: the cruze is made by Daewoo which also explains the name: just like the other chevrolet europe names it's ridiculous

Lord Blackadder
Mar 17, 2009, 09:33 PM
I believe the Porsche is a boxer 6 not a boxer 4 anyways. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Porsche used boxer 4s in the 914, but has not since, I think. The 924/944 used inline 4s.

rhsgolfer33
Mar 18, 2009, 01:25 AM
Porsche used boxer 4s in the 914, but has not since, I think. The 924/944 used inline 4s.

Ah, got ya, for some reason I got it in my head that you were speaking of newer Porsches, ie the Boxster which has a boxer 6.

The 914 was available with both a 6 and 4 cylinder version. The 6 is fairly difficult to come by if I recall correctly. The 914 is a sweet Porsche, often overlooked but definitely a fun car with pretty unique styling.

joeshell383
Mar 18, 2009, 09:31 PM
A video shot at the assembly facility on Monday (the first day of official production):

http://www.newsdurhamregion.com/news/article/121918

jessica.
Mar 18, 2009, 09:33 PM
I've wanted one of these for a good couple of years. It is seriously hot.