iPhone 3.0 Rumors and Possibilities, Live Event Today

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Apple will be providing an "advance preview" of the iPhone 3.0 firmware at a special media event today. This sort of advance public unveiling has become necessary so that 3rd party developers can update their applications to accommodate any major changes to the iPhone's operating system. As a result, we're likely looking at weeks to months of beta releases before actual delivery of the firmware to end users.

The iPhone 3.0 firmware could also be the basis for the rumored next-generation iPhone. In January, ZDNet ambitiously posted (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/08/new-multi-core-iphone-with-firmware-3-0/) that we might see a quad-core iPhone running the 3.0 firmware. While quad-core seems quite ambitious, we'd also heard rumors of a multi-core iPhone in the works. Unfortunately, the lack of availability of multi-core ARM processors this year seems to argue against this possibility.

The software features to be delivered in the 3.0 firmware have been the hot topic this past week. It seems likely that both copy/paste and an improved homepage will be featured, as there have been multiple sources suggesting these features. MMS and tethering, however, seem far less certain with only a single questionable source (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/13/iphone-3-0-to-get-mms-tethering-and-finally-copy-and-paste/).

We will not be providing live web coverage for today's event, but will provide twitter/SMS updates on @macrumors (http://twitter.com/macrumors). Our usual RSS news-feed twitter account is @macrumorsRSS (http://twitter.com/macrumorsrss).

We will, however, provide a collection of links to other locations for live coverage as the time approaches. Our forums (http://forums.macrumors.com), of course, will also be open for live discussion of the event.

Article Link: iPhone 3.0 Rumors and Possibilities, Live Event Today (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/16/iphone-3-0-rumors-and-possibilities-live-event-today/)

[rvk27]

cant wait!
gonna be great
:D:D
:apple::apple:

[Sai Zelion]

bracing for a disappointing impact.... that way, I'll be overjoyed if they don't disappoint me! lol

Oh, by the way, if the iPhone gets a QUAD CORE processor of ANY kind before the iMac goes Quad-Core, that would be a slap in the face lol. The iPhone should be Duo-Core and go through the ranks just as the iMac has to.

[t0mat0]

9to5mac.com page is useful, otherwise gizmodo and engadget will go live on it.

[billchase2]

I'll be "tuning in" from work as much as I can!

Quite pumped!!

[M2M]

Yeah lets see.... when will it start ?

[Kyle23]

Copy and Paste would be great to have but, MMS would be life changing. This whole having to log onto a website that half of the time wont work from my phone **** is crazy and needs to end. This is a increasingly more text based communication world we are in now and I am still shocked that apple is failing to keep up with it.

[FrerkLovesApple]

I hope Apple will do a keynote on this and make it public. I can't wait for it.

[iSamurai]

"advance preview" is kinda redundant...

[billchase2]

Copy and Paste would be great to have but, MMS would be life changing. This whole having to log onto a website that half of the time wont work from my phone **** is crazy and needs to end. This is a increasingly more text based communication world we are in now and I am still shocked that apple is failing to keep up with it.

I completely agree. Heck, even if they'd simply change the link to a clickable URL that didn't require a log in, I'd be happy.

[amac4me]

I'm looking forward to the announcements! :D

[bytethese]

Copy and Paste would be great to have but, MMS would be life changing. This whole having to log onto a website that half of the time wont work from my phone **** is crazy and needs to end. This is a increasingly more text based communication world we are in now and I am still shocked that apple is failing to keep up with it.

Copy and Paste would be life changing. Having to log on to websites from an actual computer to quote things or to actually have the ability to copy text from a SMS or an email to my address book or from a webpage to a Macrumors post oh joy! MMS? Eh, it's dead. My friends know to send their MMS messages to my email address. :)

[DocNYz]

When does it start???

[themoonisdown09]

When does it start???

07:00AM - Hawaii
10:00AM - Pacific
11:00AM - Mountain
12:00PM - Central
01:00PM - Eastern
05:00PM - London
06:00PM - Paris
02:00AM - Tokyo (March 18th)

[siupilot]

Anyplace we can get live video?

[billchase2]

07:00AM - Hawaii
10:00AM - Pacific
11:00AM - Mountain
12:00PM - Central
01:00PM - Eastern
05:00PM - London
06:00PM - Paris
02:00AM - Tokyo (March 18th)

Glad I'm not in Tokyo... I'd have to wait an extra day...

:p

[olternaut]

Where is the spoiler-free link to the Apple video coverage? You had one for last year's SDK preview so where is this year's?

Hmm? Well....hmm?? *taps feet furiously* Hmm?? Well??? :confused::mad:

[billchase2]

Anyplace we can get live video?

Doubtful, sometimes a few people will broadcast via Qik though.

[JRod993]

I can't wait!!! I'll be checkin in every hour. :apple:

[themoonisdown09]

Where is the spoiler-free link to the Apple video coverage? You had one for last year's SDK preview so where is this year's?

Hmm? Well....hmm?? *taps feet furiously* Hmm?? Well??? :confused::mad:

Here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=668872

[iNtrigued]

any ideas???? and whos going to brodcast live? any links??

[Sky Blue]

Copy and Paste would be great to have but, MMS would be life changing. This whole having to log onto a website that half of the time wont work from my phone **** is crazy and needs to end. This is a increasingly more text based communication world we are in now and I am still shocked that apple is failing to keep up with it.

How would it be life changing? I'd be shocked if Apple supported this out dated technology.

[mrklaw]

I have about 7 pages of apps, so somethign to tidy those up would be very useful.

Wonder if they'll be beefing the OS up to support their netbook? Seems odd to have a media event about it. New version of an OS they can just inform via their developer site. Surely it must be something useful/desirable to the wider market to have an event around it?

[themoonisdown09]

any ideas???? and whos going to brodcast live? any links??

Engadget is doing live coverage here: http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/17/live-from-apples-iphone-os-3-0-preview-event/

[siupilot]

Engadget is doing live coverage here: http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/17/live-from-apples-iphone-os-3-0-preview-event/

I think they're just doing a live blog.

[Ivan P]

Even though I have work at 8.30AM I'm really tempted to stay up until 2/3AM just to see what's happening with it...curse living on the other side of the world...

[NokX]

i wish i was there with my iphone!

then i could take pictures and send them via MMS to my frie.......wait, no... i can't do that.

well, then i would take video of the show and then........wait....i can't do that either.

well, at least i can receive the twitter updates on my phone due to push notific..........wait...i can't do that either.

[Eswip]

What about a spoiler-free link to the keynote when it's posted @ apple.com?

[themoonisdown09]

I think they're just doing a live blog.

Right... that's live coverage. There's (usually) never any live video coverage.

[Lesser Evets]

What ever happened to that March 24th event? Did that just vanish?

I can't wait!!! I'll be checkin in every hour. :apple:

Good idea. They might start early just to foul you up.

[Macjames]

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Looking foward to getting the disapointment out of the way.

[michael.lauden]

man! i always loved working late the night before an Apple event.


that way i could wake up and only have to wait an hour or two for the event to be underway!

[techfreak85]

will there be a broadcasted keynote/spoiler free link?:eek:

[themoonisdown09]

What about a spoiler-free link to the keynote when it's posted @ apple.com?

will there be a broadcasted keynote/spoiler free link?:eek:

I have already posted the link earlier in this thread

[alexp2ad]

Here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=668872
Or here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=668905

We are providing a spoiler free Keynote twitter: http://twitter.com/thekeynotes

We'll be posting the video link as soon as it's available!

[fanbrain]

As always, I'll be here in front of my work computer checking in and watching everything happen. I'm really looking forward to this event and hope I can stand to wait another few months for 3.0 to be released.

[asaad]

I hope that cut/copy/paste, MMS, and data tethering are NOT the highlights of a major software update. I mean this is a next level update. Introducing 2 features that should have been included from the start does not constitute an apple event previewing them. There has to be something more to it. Let's see some improvements to notifications, the UI (springboard), keyboard enhancements, and more customization. Things like cut/paste, MMS should take a back seat to other features being debuted at event like this and for a software update of this magnitude. If Apple wants to prove that they're moving in the right direction without Jobs in the drivers seat they could wow some people by having features like those play second fiddle to some stunning new features.

Also if there's one thing I WISH apple would do is give me the option to NOT have my text messages displayed for whoever (my girlfriend) is around to see , I don't want to have to put a passcode lock on my phone to have the contents of text messages hidden. Give me a break.

Again don't get me wrong, I'm PUMPED to finally (hopefully) get those features of cut/paste/copy and MMS. But I think you all get where I'm going with that.

[rockosmodurnlif]

Copy and Paste would be great to have but, MMS would be life changing. This whole having to log onto a website that half of the time wont work from my phone **** is crazy and needs to end. This is a increasingly more text based communication world we are in now and I am still shocked that apple is failing to keep up with it.
Well not life changing but I do agree. The website thing works about 0% of the time for me.

[olternaut]

I have already posted the link earlier in this thread

Umm.......so what about a spoiler free link for the video when Apple releases it later? :confused:

[Dagless]

MMS eh? I'd rather use email since they don't affect my txt limit.

[bdkennedy1]

What time??

[NorCalLights]

Seems like this event is also trying to quell the rumblings that the iPhone is falling behind offerings from other companies. The Palm Pre (while it is still far away, and given Palm's track record I'm not holding my breath) looks rather impressive.

[vettori]

I know a high profile manager in Telecom Italia (one of the Italy carriers that offers the iPhone) that said the MMS are present.
Since MMS are highly requested here in Italy I trust that source.

[Bye Bye Baby]

Bring it on. It had better be good. Just the things we want plus one or two that will blow us away.

Make it stable. Make it snappy and I think that we can all live with that.

No?

[olegandbuster25]

What number do you text to get the updates?

[Bye Bye Baby]

I know a high profile manager in Telecom Italia (one of the Italy carriers that offers the iPhone) that said the MMS are present.
Since MMS are highly requested here in Italy I trust that source.

Why is MMS so popular in Italy? I have never understood why? I know it's true, but I don't get it.

[patsfan83]

You know what is pretty impressive? Apple has again maintained secrecy for the upcoming OS...for it to be a couple hours before the event and all we know is copy and paste, maybe MMS and maybe tethering (which was rumored a while back) is pretty good on their part. Can't wait for the surprises they have in store, because everyone knows there is going to be a lot more than that..GUI overhaul?

[kornyboy]

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Does anyone know what time this thing will kick off? I suspect that it will be the usual time but I'm just wondering.

[OneMike]

Preview is nice but releases are always better

[Saladinos]

How would it be life changing? I'd be shocked if Apple supported this out dated technology.

Same. Never liked MMS personally. Too expensive and unnecessary. Even more so now that email is available on phones. Why MMS somebody when I could email them for free? And they can get my email on a computer, phone or whatever. I rarely need people to check out a photo right that instant, so next time they check their email is fine for me.

If I do need them to check out a photo, I call/text them and ask them to check their email ASAP. Simple.

Still, for 3.0 I'm expecting a substantial upgrade. Not just copy and paste, but a tweaked UI all-around, including a better lock and home screen and touched-up interface elements in other parts. I'm also expecting some technology improvements (more useful bluetooth stack), and some clarification on AppStore policies.

[billchase2]

What time??

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Does anyone know what time this thing will kick off? I suspect that it will be the usual time but I'm just wondering.

How many more times are we going to get this question? Look at posts earlier in this thread... it's already been answered for every time zone. lol

[vettori]

Why is MMS so popular in Italy? I have never understood why? I know it's true, but I don't get it.

I really don't know why... Maybe it's because computers and emails are not so spread as cellphones :(

P.S.
I never sent an MMS :D

[locust76]

lol, no live blog this time around... looks like they're afraid /b/ will have their way with the site again :p

[Ping Guo]

Copy and Paste would be great to have but, MMS would be life changing. This whole having to log onto a website that half of the time wont work from my phone **** is crazy and needs to end. This is a increasingly more text based communication world we are in now and I am still shocked that apple is failing to keep up with it.

You and the 2 other people in the world who still use MMS are going to be disappointed.:p

[helical]

Glad I'm not in Tokyo... I'd have to wait an extra day...

:p

lol, true

But by the time I get up here the video is usually availible so i just watch spoiler-free

[JRod993]

I want to see a whole new interface too. New colors, new icons, etc... :apple:

[kornyboy]

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What time??

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Does anyone know what time this thing will kick off? I suspect that it will be the usual time but I'm just wondering.

How many more times are we going to get this question? Look at posts earlier in this thread... it's already been answered for every time zone. lol

I don't have the time to sit around like some people and read through pages of posts on my iPhone.

[Kar98]

Why is MMS so popular in Italy? I have never understood why? I know it's true, but I don't get it.

Because only in MMS can you properly convey all the flailing and waving that's so typical of an Italian conversation. An Italian without arms has a speech impediment ;)

[kabunaru]

Anybody see Mac OS 10.5.7 coming out today?

[billchase2]

You and the 2 other people in the world who still use MMS are going to be disappointed.:p

I guess that leaves only one other person if you count me... and that's not counting quite a few people that I know who use it.

Hmmmm.... ;)

[Saladinos]

Anybody see Mac OS 10.5.7 coming out today?

Ooh, now that's a possibility. I wouldn't be surprised, especially since it's a Tuesday.

I could see Apple releasing a beta of the software and SDK today, which would probably require 10.5.7 to be released. I'm also secretly hoping that it's an open beta, since developers are now no longer under NDA, or any outstanding patents have been filed. But I know that's soooo not Apple.

[sushi]

Glad I'm not in Tokyo... I'd have to wait an extra day...
This time it is only 0200. Usually it is 0300. But with Daylight Savings Time change we get an hour break. :)

But by the time I get up here the video is usually availible so i just watch spoiler-free
I usually stay up to watch them as they happen. Makes the next day a bit hard on me. :eek:

[finalcut]

will follow from twitter for sure

Can't wait to see the possibilities

[igazza]

just wait for all the complaining to start :rolleyes:

[devildog820]

I feel like we get plenty of more leaks around this time. I haven't heard much new since yesterday.

[emt1]

I just hope I will be able to get rid of the unused icons without having to jailbreak. I don't care about stocks (or YouTube, notes, etc.)

[Ivan P]

iTunes is suddenly telling me that "Genius Sidebar for Movies and TV Coming Soon"...which means an iTunes update is somewhat imminent...I know it's a long shot but maybe something will be released during this event (even if it isn't 3.0 itself), that may also require an iTunes update, and they held this Genius function over as something to entice people that don't get this new device/software to update?

Thread here:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=669451

[zenzen70]

Ok i am in Greece @ the office waiting for the big moment.....i am always optimistic about things so here are my thoughts:

Today they will release 2.3 which is going to have background notifications. So they will give us something they promised 6 months ago....

As for v3 it will be something completely new, new user interface, new apps and i think that v1 of the iPhone will not be supported.

As for MMS i believe we will not be getting any MMS, we have email why use MMS?

[Sky Blue]

iTunes is suddenly telling me that "Genius Sidebar for Movies and TV Coming Soon"...which means an iTunes update is somewhat imminent...I know it's a long shot but maybe something will be released during this event (even if it isn't 3.0 itself), that may also require an iTunes update, and they held this Genius function over as something to entice people that don't get this new device/software to update?

Thread here:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=669451

dude, it's old:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=668387

Search first, nothing to do with iPhone 3.0

[Ivan P]

dude, it's old:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=668387

Search first, nothing to do with iPhone 3.0

I wouldn't exactly call a day and a half "old". Get off your high horse.

[afd]

I was one of the people that moaned about the lack of MMS. Downloaded the MMS app when it became available in the UK App store in January, I think. Since then have only sent 7 messages. It is an excellent app for reading MMSs from those people that can't understand that an iPhone can't receive MMS though.

[sushi]

just wait for all the complaining to start :rolleyes:
That's a given and always happens after these types of events/announcements.

[Sky Blue]

I wouldn't exactly call a day and a half "old". Get off your high horse.

Search first, then I wouldn't have to get on it in the first place. How would this need an iTunes update when genius pulls data from the iTunes Store?

[SirROM]

Anybody see Mac OS 10.5.7 coming out today?

no

[Ping Guo]

I guess that leaves only one other person if you count me... and that's not counting quite a few people that I know who use it.

Hmmmm.... ;)

Are you Italian? That would explain it. :D

[billchase2]

I wouldn't exactly call a day and a half "old". Get off your high horse.
iTunes 8.1 came out on the 11th, so technically, it's 6 days old. ;)

http://support.apple.com/downloads/iTunes_8_1_for_Mac

[apull]

Something bigger is going on. You don't make copy-paste capability into a whole new version release. You don't throw a big conference for copy-paste. If this doesn't see the announcement of upgraded hardware, I'd be surprised.

[Ivan P]

iTunes 8.1 came out on the 11th, so technically, it's 6 days old. ;)

http://support.apple.com/downloads/iTunes_8_1_for_Mac

I wasn't talking about iTunes 8.1, I know when that came out as I downloaded it that day. I was talking about the topic that Sky Blue linked to; it was created just over a day and a half ago.

Search first, then I wouldn't have to get on it in the first place. How would this need an iTunes update when genius pulls data from the iTunes Store?

Yes, well...shhhhh :p
Go bug the people making dozens and dozens of topics about the 3.0 software, just to ask for the thousandth time whether or not they'll have to pay for it ;)

[sushi]

I don't have the time to sit around like some people and read through pages of posts on my iPhone.
So you are implying that the rest of us are not busy, nor do we browse MR with our iPhone/touch?

The nerve of some people. :rolleyes:

Anyhow, someone in this thread already posted the time of the event as well as the different times around the world. I am sure that you can find it if you look. :)

Hint, it's on page one of this thread.

[asaad]

would be cool if this came to fruition today..

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/09/18/apple-considering-at-a-glance-notification-screen-for-iphone/

[Riemann Zeta]

I don't think I've ever sent or received an MMS message, so that's pointless to me. A well thought out cut/paste gesture would be nice, but I would really like to see an overall revision of the OS, with a vastly more modern Safari build derived from the latest Webkit technologies (should help speed up rendering). In addition to this, Apple could help the iPhone OS tremendously if they just modified the firmware so that the ARM CPU in the phone wasn't castrated at 412 MHz. Give the iPhone the same 532 MHz speed found in the 2nd gen iPod touch (the same hardware revision as the G3 phone, just less underclocked due to battery life concerns on the phone).

Although the largest bottleneck for the iPhone OS is the fact that the hardware only has a puny 128MB of RAM. And alas, there's no fix, firmware hack or OS update that can help there. Pity Apple didn't include 256MB from the start.

I wonder if this beta will be as locked down and tight-assed as the iPhone OS 2 betas were with regard to installation. That would be a shame--it would be great to see the OS 3 betas leak to the those wacky tubes of the internet so that we could live dangerously and test it ourselves.

[preservative]

I smell goat.

[MrG299]

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I don't have the time to sit around like some people and read through pages of posts on my iPhone.

If you have time to write this then surely you have time to google it...

[Kar98]

Something bigger is going on. You don't make copy-paste capability into a whole new version release. You don't throw a big conference for copy-paste.

Apple would. And they'll claim they invented copy+paste :apple:

[big_malk]

This sort of advance public unveiling has become necessary so that 3rd party developers can update their applications to accommodate any major changes to the iPhone's operating system. As a result, we're likely looking at weeks to months of beta releases before actual delivery of the firmware to end users.

I know that’s a good reason for the delay between the announcement and actual release, but it'll still suck to be waiting even longer to actually get to use these new features. No point getting excited today :(

[vettori]

Something bigger is going on. You don't make copy-paste capability into a whole new version release. You don't throw a big conference for copy-paste. If this doesn't see the announcement of upgraded hardware, I'd be surprised.

I think they will also create two developers segments. 99$/year developer can submit any app to the standard store. xxx$/year developer can submit only high-quality apps to a premium store.

If they do, I hope xxx will be acceptable even for us single-man company that want to focus on quality software....

They will also upgrade hardware to allow more complex and resource intensive games.

[sushi]

I smell goat.
What do you mean by this? Confused.

If you have time to write this then surely you have time to google it...
Snort. Isn't that the truth.

[iOrlando]

ok so who has streaming pic/text coverage...best one out there?? gizmodo? any other choices?

[kabunaru]

Aah, people are bored so they figure to argue about nothing. :D

[fr33 loader]

So much hate in this forum. A lot of people don't want to MMS to happen. Apparently, you don't need it but to some, it is useful for them. You are not affected if it does happen, you always have the option not to use it and stick to your e-mail for sending photos because they are "better". Don't bring other people down with your crab mentality. I myself would never use a phone camera except probably during emergencies but I do hope other people would get their flash, better lens, increased megapixel because its important to them. Stop being selfish and think about others for once.

[NokX]

If I do need them to check out a photo, I call/text them and ask them to check their email ASAP. Simple.

so two steps to get them a picture instead of one. BRILLIANT!

[eyefoniac]

I guess we just have to take whatever Apple gives us :rolleyes:

[kabunaru]

I guess we just have to take whatever Apple gives us :rolleyes:

And I will be perfectly fine with what they give.

[JRod993]

Something bigger is going on. You don't make copy-paste capability into a whole new version release. You don't throw a big conference for copy-paste. If this doesn't see the announcement of upgraded hardware, I'd be surprised.

When you think about, it really doesn't make sense to throw an event over copy & paste! I have to agree with you on that one.

[asaad]

I guess we just have to take whatever Apple gives us :rolleyes:we will take what they give us AND LIKE IT. :eek:

[mj6252]

I'd like to see new hardwares. Maybe it be the 10" category touch screen
or a unibody iPhone. I'm not a fan of the "iPhone nano rumors" so, I don't really care about it.

I have skipped upgrading to iPhone 3G because I am waiting for something special, I hope today is my lucky day.

Push notification is my request too, but mostly I wish for new or improved hardwares

[preservative]

What do you mean by this? Confused.

You didn't watch the last live macrumors event I take it. If you don't know then don't worry.

[overcast]

so two steps to get them a picture instead of one. BRILLIANT!

..and also assume they are in front of something that lets them check email.

People are seriously stupidly shortsighted on this forum. By his same logic, we should get rid of text messaging, and only send eMail. eMail already does this, why do we even have texting?

[MistaBungle]

I'm also fine with what they add, as long as they don't taketh.

[Saladinos]

so two steps to get them a picture instead of one. BRILLIANT!

It's hardly rocket science. It's also a more versatile solution, allowing better quality pictures and access from multiple devices. It's actually the more elegant solution.

..and also assume they are in front of something that lets them check email.

People are seriously stupidly shortsighted on this forum.

Indeed they are. If you'd checked my original post, I said that it is rare that people need to share photos instantly when neither are at an email-capable device. If neither are at such a device, the photo could often, in all reality, wait a few hours.

[Mackan]

we will take what they give us AND LIKE IT. :eek:

Even if it's poo.

[kabunaru]

Even if it's poo.

Apple will never give that. Apple knows better than that.

[jruc4871]

If I do need them to check out a photo, I call/text them and ask them to check their email ASAP. Simple.

My god. Simple? This is easier than just being able to send a picture to anyone with a mobile phone?

Regardless of what many on this forum claim, MMS is a widely-used, mainstream technology for sending quick pictures to your friends and family. Everyone I know uses it (except those with iPhones), including teenagers, young adults and older adults alike. No, not everyone has email on their phones. Not even close.

[tiguk]

This might be useful later! ;)

iPhone OS 3.0 Announcement Scorecard (http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/03/16/the-iphone-os-30-announcement-scorecard/)

[SirROM]

Ok i am in Greece @ the office waiting for the big moment.....i am always optimistic about things so here are my thoughts:

Today they will release 2.3 which is going to have background notifications. So they will give us something they promised 6 months ago....

As for v3 it will be something completely new, new user interface, new apps and i think that v1 of the iPhone will not be supported.

As for MMS i believe we will not be getting any MMS, we have email why use MMS?

I'm with you partially: I kinda expect to to have a 2.3 firmware this week or next at the latest. After announcing improvements that will be coming in a few months, I think there is enough expectation that Apple will have to give us “something” to change the game a little bit right now—kind of a teaser if you will.

The problem is that the big features will likely require an overhaul of many current applications and the OS, so this “something” will need to be a feature that can be implemented without much delay or planning by developers. Possibly something that is at the OS level that already has hooks in place for well-written apps and “just works” after the firmware update. I have no idea what that could be, but I do expect we will not have to wait months for everything shown today.

[Becordial]

Even though I have work at 8.30AM I'm really tempted to stay up until 2/3AM just to see what's happening with it...curse living on the other side of the world...


We hear ya Ivan....we're all up very late here too to get some :apple: love!

[asaad]

Even if it's poo.hopefully it comes in different colors.

ok that was awful and I'm sorry.

[Luscious]

I'm looking for MMS, the ability to forward SMS and MMS messages, the ability to record and save videos, copy and paste and the ability to tether the iPhone. All of the above can be done via a software update since all but copy and paste can be added in if you jailbreak (and in the case of MMS, are willing to constantly go back and forth with AT&T to get them to update your account settings to enable MMS) so come on Apple get with the program.

It's laughable that two years after the iPhone's release you still can't do these very, very basic things. I'm going to be looking at v3.0 and the next rev of the iPhone very carefully. If they don't include the above features plus at least a 3.0 megapixel camera then I'm going to take a serious look at alternative phones when my contract expires in a couple of months.

[kabunaru]

Nobody is seeing a tablet coming out other than this site? :eek:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/apple_iphone_3_0_event_tomorrow_might_reveal_a_tablet

[tbealmear]

As for v3 it will be something completely new, new user interface, new apps and i think that v1 of the iPhone will not be supported.

Ya, because the first gen iPhone and the second gen iPhone are running completely different hardware specs ;) Other than GPS and the 3G chip, they are identical. Neither of those two have anything to do with the actual performance of the phone. If the first gen isn't supported, then you can't support the second gen.

[Lesser Evets]

Nobody is seeing a tablet coming out other than this site? :eek:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/apple_iphone_3_0_event_tomorrow_might_reveal_a_tablet

Mar. 24th.

Purely speculative.

[kolizion]

well, ATT has been beta testing live video messaging for a while now...
I wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't surface soon.

**hint**

[michael.lauden]

This might be useful later! ;)

iPhone OS 3.0 Announcement Scorecard (http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/03/16/the-iphone-os-30-announcement-scorecard/)

haha

what a great idea! honestly. i'd be lying if i was excited for any of this to happen. i'm sure it will all be greater than we expect - but i am not in the market for a net book OR tablet (unless it's as revolutionary as the iPhone) and i'm jailbroken.

buuut i'm sure apple can make their iPhone work better than hackers can so at least i have something to be excited for!

[Becordial]

So much hate in this forum. A lot of people don't want to MMS to happen. Apparently, you don't need it but to some, it is useful for them. You are not affected if it does happen, you always have the option not to use it and stick to your e-mail for sending photos because they are "better". Don't bring other people down with your crab mentality. I myself would never use a phone camera except probably during emergencies but I do hope other people would get their flash, better lens, increased megapixel because its important to them. Stop being selfish and think about others for once.

Nicely said. A good breadth of features designed to suit different users, at different points in life, is what makes a wonderful phone even more ubiquitous, which benefits us all.

[zenzen70]

Ya, because the first gen iPhone and the second gen iPhone are running completely different hardware specs ;) Other than GPS and the 3G chip, they are identical. Neither of those two have anything to do with the actual performance of the phone. If the first gen isn't supported, then you can't support the second gen.

What i meant and excuse me for this is that i am guessing that it will be a locked upgrade, meaning that orig iphone's will not be able to get upgraded.

[jMc]

You know what I really want to see? Better iPod software on the phone, something that would bring it up to par with what's on the current gen Nanos, which are a joy to use. I don't want to have to scroll through a list of every song on my iPhone when I want to add to an on-the-go playlist - I should be able to do this from wherever a song or group of songs is described. Keyword search would be useful too - you can do this on the current Nano firmware and that doesn't even have a keyboard...

I'm sure when the iPhone was first introduced, Steve called it the 'best iPod ever'. Yeah, well, whatever...

jx

[iOrlando]

if at all possible...any new model iphone will be released by Steve when he feels/looks better. iPhone is his baby..and he wouldnt let anyone else release it to the world if he couldnt physically do it.

[talkingfuture]

I've got the feeling that this will be a good event but there will be a looong wait until June for new iPhone hardware!

[tbealmear]

What i meant and excuse me for this is that i am guessing that it will be a locked upgrade, meaning that orig iphone's will not be able to get upgraded.

Sorry, did not mean to come off snobish. I think a lot of people would be pretty mad (including me!) if they didnt offer it for the 1st gen. I know of a lot of people (again, including me) that did not upgrade to the 2nd gen because they didnt change enough to warrant the purchase. Plus, the phone has been out for a couple years only, thats not long enough to discontinue support for the software. Here is to hoping they dont block the 1st gens!

[sushi]

What i meant and excuse me for this is that i am guessing that it will be a locked upgrade, meaning that orig iphone's will not be able to get upgraded.
This will happen with technology.

I would expect the 3rd Gen iPhone to be different than the current model. By different, I don't mean tweaks, but significant changes.

[tbealmear]

This will happen with technology.

I would expect the 3rd Gen iPhone to be different than the current model. By different, I don't mean tweaks, but significant changes.

I agree, I think the 3rd gen will be a lot different. I think however, to let the update work for 2nd gen phone and not 1st gen, would be a smack in the face. I think in this situation, you either have to support the first two, or none. At least, from a hardware and ethics standpoint.

[slapppy]

Anyone hoping it would catch up to the Pre will be disappointed. It'll be surprising if Apple was able to catch up within the last few months to the Palm Pre level.

[SpinThis!]

It's a more versatile solution, allowing better quality pictures and access from multiple devices.... it is rare that people need to share photos instantly when neither are at an email-capable device. If neither are at such a device, the photo could often, in all reality, wait a few hours.
Exactly. Why waste time on a botched "standard" when e-mail works better, is being supported on more devices, is somewhat more secure, has more room to grow on mobile device, etc. The last thing I want to see is someone's new cat seconds after they got one—that crap can wait. Or better yet, send me a message saying "new pics are up in my gallery on my flickr/website/facebook/myspace" or whatever. People who use MMS are probably the same jackasses who flag every e-mail message at work as high priority when it ends up being just a fwd...

[pavvento]

This will happen with technology.

I would expect the 3rd Gen iPhone to be different than the current model. By different, I don't mean tweaks, but significant changes.

I agree to an extent, but AFAIK (and I could be wrong) the only real changes were 3G and GPS. I don't think they upped the processor or anything, so there's no reason to believe that v1 would be unable to function with the update.

[simulacra]

How about the ability to attach multiple pictures per mail we send?
And not having to go through "photos" in order to do it, a small fix, but we need it...

I'm annoyed by the way that apple limits the iphone for the sake of it looking slick, what if I want the speed to be dazzling, the data rates humongous and the battery short lived?

But I, just as everyone else, wants the important stuff like multitasks, push-not's, but I'd also like to see something really new, and really big, last year we got the appstore and stuff, I hope they wont have a presentation just to tell us that they're adding stuff we were supposed to get 6 months ago.

BTW, which version of the iphone software were they at when they presented 2.0?

[zenzen70]

Sorry, did not mean to come off snobish. I think a lot of people would be pretty mad (including me!) if they didnt offer it for the 1st gen. I know of a lot of people (again, including me) that did not upgrade to the 2nd gen because they didnt change enough to warrant the purchase. Plus, the phone has been out for a couple years only, thats not long enough to discontinue support for the software. Here is to hoping they dont block the 1st gens!

I understand your frustration if they did something like this, but they are out there to make money, how would they make all the 1st gen iPhone buyers to upgrade their devices, and also dont forget that there are a lot of those devices which have been sold in grey markets and iphones now are now sold on such markets.

Personally i have 3 1st gen iphones and i replaced them all with 3G iphones. My biggest problem with the iphone is the battery.

My daughter and my wife love the simplicity of the device.

[ethen]

We are attending the event today, our live coverage will be
at http://live.slashgear.com - ajaxed based, no manual refresh.

[kolizion]

you know what I would love to see the addition of?

Iphone updates without the need to sync the phone to itunes / dock.
I want auto Updates.

[big_malk]

you know what I would love to see the addition of?

Iphone updates without the need to sync the phone to itunes / dock.
I want auto Updates.

Considering the frequency the updates come out, and the frequency most people sync with iTunes, it wouldn't be worth the complication.

[gtyper]

Wow, some of you people are really narrow minded.

If *YOU* don't like a feature, then no one else wants/needs it? Come on, is that really how you think? Are you that selfish?

People who use MMS are probably the same jackasses who flag every e-mail message at work as high priority when it ends up being just a fwd...

First, I can tell you multiple times I've lost out due to not having MMS. Usually at the worst times, like a girl sends me a picture to entice me just a little. Great ... didn't get it. Didn't even know it was sent. I'm now the jackass who ignored her and made her self-conscious of her body. Rock on!

Second, I don't necessarily want to send an email. Not everyone is tech saavy, not everyone has email ready phones and setting up email on phones is beyond some people. Heck, some people lived through the life of the VCR and never figured out how to set the clock!

Third, it's quite obnoxious to tell people to text message me at my email address. I get a blank stare like I've lost my mind.

Just because *YOU* don't like it, doesn't mean there isn't a use for it. Like it impacts your life somehow. It's akin to complaining about a new superhighway development in Richmond, Virginia ... when you live in San Diego, California.

[rlmccormick]

I don't think that the lack of a commercially available multi-core ARM processor is any indication that they are not working on one. With previous processor cores (ARM7 at least) you could license the core and tie it to your own peripherals, memory or other processors as your design required. I would think that they could take two ARM11 cores and tie them together to make a multi-core processor if they wanted to.

[FSUSem1noles]

I have a feeling this isn't going to be released until the new iPhone does... which is going to be torture..

[guzhogi]

Wow, some of you people are really narrow minded.

If *YOU* don't like a feature, then no one else wants/needs it? Come on, is that really how you think? Are you that selfish?

I totally agree.

First, I can tell you multiple times I've lost out due to not having MMS. Usually at the worst times, like a girl sends me a picture to entice me just a little. Great ... didn't get it. Didn't even know it was sent. I'm now the jackass who ignored her and made her self-conscious of her body. Rock on!

Good point. Makes me wish I had a girlfriend. :(

Second, I don't necessarily want to send an email. Not everyone is tech saavy, not everyone has email ready phones and setting up email on phones is beyond some people. Heck, some people lived through the life of the VCR and never figured out how to set the clock!

Third, it's quite obnoxious to tell people to text message me at my email address. I get a blank stare like I've lost my mind.

Just because *YOU* don't like it, doesn't mean there isn't a use for it. Like it impacts your life somehow. It's akin to complaining about a new superhighway development in Richmond, Virginia ... when you live in San Diego, California.

All very good points. Something that I've noticed in my life: people, for the most part, are stupid, arrogant idiots. That includes myself, too, unfortunately.

All this reminds me of last year & how many problems there were. First off, everyone w/ a 1st gen iPhone wanted to upgrade to 2.0 of the firmware, congesting the servers. Plus, with all the new iPhones needing to be activated, that clogged the servers even more. Plus, you had to activate it in store, meaning longer lines and less iPhones sold in an hour. My boss had a 1st gen iPhone & tried to upgrade his software and it didn't finish correctly so his iPhone was bricked. Since he was an administrator (specifically the Director of Technology), he needed the iPhone just in case someone needed to contact him or vice versa. Hopefully, Apple will increase the server load so this kind of thing doesn't happen again (or at least not as badly). If it does, I expect to see Apple's stock tank. Anyone remember when it was over $200/share?

[kolizion]

would be amazing if the updates were released today...
best st. pattys day for a long time...

[kabunaru]

would be amazing if the updates were released today...
1. iPhone 3.0 update
2. Mac OS 10.5.7 (maybe)
3. One more thing: "Tablet" announcement

[tuvok47]

Does this mean that there will be a new version of the iPhone, or just the software? I have plans to buy an iPhone 3G this week and am wondering if I should wait. Will I be eligible for the new software when it comes out?

[boss1]

What's most surprising is the lack of any significant insight to 3.0 other than copy paste.

Apple has done very well this time in keeping features 3.0 holds out of the lime light. But where's all the speculation? Yes the forums are filled with the usual hopes for MMS, Tethering or push notification (previously promised by Apple) but is that it?

In other words aren't most (if not all) of those things just a laundry list of things that people have hoped for since 1.0 ? Where's the meat!

I think Apple will reveal things about 3.0 that no one saw coming... it is 3.0 after all.


If it's going to come pre loaded into the next generation iPhone it surely must have software features to compliment the new hardware.

Copy paste is great but only a side note of 3.0. what's most interesting about 3.0 already is "What's underneath the hood of 3.0 that Apple is NOT REVEALING TODAY".

[Locoboof]

What number do I send a text to so I can get SMS updates?

[Buschmaster]

1. iPhone 3.0 update
2. Mac OS 10.5.7 (maybe)
3. One more thing: "Tablet" announcement
Wow, think big huh...

[Peace]

Might not happen.

This from gizmodo :

Jason Chen:
And now everybody is streaming outside. Is this a fire? Did Steve show up and start screaming at people?

9:11 AM ON MAR 17 2009


Jason Chen:
Someone just set off the loudest alarm I have ever heard. Not me, I swear.

9:10 AM ON MAR 17 2009


disaster averted

[btcutter]

Wow, some of you people are really narrow minded.

If *YOU* don't like a feature, then no one else wants/needs it? Come on, is that really how you think? Are you that selfish?



First, I can tell you multiple times I've lost out due to not having MMS. Usually at the worst times, like a girl sends me a picture to entice me just a little. Great ... didn't get it. Didn't even know it was sent. I'm now the jackass who ignored her and made her self-conscious of her body. Rock on!

Second, I don't necessarily want to send an email. Not everyone is tech saavy, not everyone has email ready phones and setting up email on phones is beyond some people. Heck, some people lived through the life of the VCR and never figured out how to set the clock!

Third, it's quite obnoxious to tell people to text message me at my email address. I get a blank stare like I've lost my mind.

Just because *YOU* don't like it, doesn't mean there isn't a use for it. Like it impacts your life somehow. It's akin to complaining about a new superhighway development in Richmond, Virginia ... when you live in San Diego, California.

You knew the iphone didn't have MMS. If you NEED that feature, why did u buy it?

I never understood why people buy a product THEN EXPECT the company to update or upgrade it so it has the feature they want.

Have u ever buy ANY electronic good then expect the merchant or manufacture to UPGRADE/UPDATE it later for free??? Seriously.

It's a free country. As a consumer your $$ cast votes. Buy a product that serve your need.

[boss1]

1. iPhone 3.0 update
2. Mac OS 10.5.7 (maybe)
3. One more thing: "Tablet" announcement


I'm not buying it. I've heard Tablet rumors for nearly a decade and won't believe it until I actually see it released later on this year ;) .


I'm starting to believe the Tablet rumors are generated by Jim Cramer (mad money) to in his words "Milk" the stock.

[kabunaru]

Wow, think big huh...

What do you mean?

[8CoreWhore]

To suggest MMS isn't needed because one could simply use email - is to suggest text messages aren't needed because one could simply use email. :cool:

[diamond.g]

You knew the iphone didn't have MMS. If you NEED that feature, why did u buy it?

I never understood why people buy a product THEN EXPECT the company to update or upgrade it so it has the feature they want.

Have u ever buy ANY electronic good then expect the merchant or manufacture to UPGRADE/UPDATE it later for free??? Seriously.

It's a free country. As a consumer your $$ cast votes. Buy a product that serve your need.

I seem to remember people crowing about how the iPhone will end the need to continually buy new hardware. All the missing features were going to be software upgrades that were supposed to come out in a few months (from the original launch). Almost 2 years later, and the long list of things wanted seems to be growing.

What makes the whole thing amusing is how people pointed to how Windows Mobile needed all these 3rd party applications to fix some of the oversights, yet that seems to be the response a lot of people are happy to give for the iPhone here.

[iAlan]

Glad I'm not in Tokyo... I'd have to wait an extra day...

:p

Yeah, rub it in why don't you :p

Sleepy time for Tokyo, so tomorrow will catch all the announcements after the fact :(

[kdarling]

I never understood why people buy a product THEN EXPECT the company to update or upgrade it so it has the feature they want.

I'm afraid you're barking up the wrong product tree.

In this case, many phones were sold on the very premise that updates are easy and common. Missing VPN? Missing Exchange? Missing native apps? No problem, an upgrade will take care of it.

Have u ever buy ANY electronic good then expect the merchant or manufacture to UPGRADE/UPDATE it later for free??? Seriously.

Yep again, since Apple has said that the monthly royalties from the first iPhone, and the profits from the other models, are partially earmarked as charges for free software updates.

[boss1]

What do you mean?

He means that one shouldn't bet their life savings and those 3 things to be announced today.

[Locker]

1. iPhone 3.0 update
2. Mac OS 10.5.7 (maybe)
3. One more thing: "Tablet" announcement
3.0 update today? The preview wouldn't be all that advanced then would it... No chance for developers to use it before it's out? That's not going to happen. I can't see any hardware announcements taking place either, but would be happy to be proved wrong.

[AnDi86]

Why are people getting excited about the possibiliy of new hardware today? there will be none of it! its the os of the iphone, they won't give the game away on any new hardware today!

[dwd3885]

some of you are being kinda ridiculous. this is going to be a preview of 3.0, much like the sdk preview last march. Nothing more, nothing less. Nothing will come out today and there will be no new hardware announcements of any kind. It's a preview for developers of 3.0 software

[=MuLti-CeLL=]

Last Minute(s) predictions...

-Not even a hint towards ANY new hardware coming.

-Nothing earth-shattering as far as software.

...happily keeping expectations low. :D

Suprise the hell outta me Apple. Kthanx.

[arkmannj]

I understand your frustration if they did something like this, but they are out there to make money, how would they make all the 1st gen iPhone buyers to upgrade their devices, and also dont forget that there are a lot of those devices which have been sold in grey markets and iphones now are now sold on such markets.

Personally i have 3 1st gen iphones and i replaced them all with 3G iphones. My biggest problem with the iphone is the battery.

My daughter and my wife love the simplicity of the device.

Maybe Apple would be nice enough to do it, seeming as most 1st Gen iPhone users paid considerably more $$ and were generally very vocal to friends about how awesome it is, helpign to further it's wide spread use.

Not to mention, if Apple cut them off, they would be cutting off a lot of apps from reaching that market.

even if Apple didn't release the full 3.0 iPhone OS for 1st Gen users, I could see them still updating the current OS for compatibility, and maybe even add a couple features (Copy/Paste) as a nice final update.

[OS X Dude]

They say the SDK will change/be updated. How? Can't be with features, unless Apple allow access to the bluetooth stack for file transfer, as could be a feature in 3.0

Otherwise, what else could they add?

[arkmannj]

I understand your frustration if they did something like this, but they are out there to make money, how would they make all the 1st gen iPhone buyers to upgrade their devices, and also dont forget that there are a lot of those devices which have been sold in grey markets and iphones now are now sold on such markets.

Personally i have 3 1st gen iphones and i replaced them all with 3G iphones. My biggest problem with the iphone is the battery.

My daughter and my wife love the simplicity of the device.

Maybe Apple would be nice enough to do it, seeming as most 1st Gen iPhone users paid considerably more $$ and were generally very vocal to friends about how awesome it is, helping to further it's wide spread use.
(and as I recall apple gets a financial kick back from AT&T from 1st Gen Contracts, so basically we're paying for it one way or another)

Not to mention, if Apple cut them off, they would be cutting off a lot of apps from reaching that market.

even if Apple didn't release the full 3.0 iPhone OS for 1st Gen users, I could see them still updating the current OS for compatibility, and maybe even add a couple features (Copy/Paste) as a nice final update.

[Mintin8]

Maybe Apple would be nice enough to do it, seeming as most 1st Gen iPhone users paid considerably more $$ and were generally very vocal to friends about how awesome it is, helpign to further it's wide spread use.

Not to mention, if Apple cut them off, they would be cutting off a lot of apps from reaching that market.

even if Apple didn't release the full 3.0 iPhone OS for 1st Gen users, I could see them still updating the current OS for compatibility, and maybe even add a couple features (Copy/Paste) as a nice final update.

That sounds just about right. I'm still debating over if apple will release 3.0 for 1st Gen, although it doesn't concern me it would be nice of apple to release it for 1st Gen. Hopefully some nice features are added today. When is the event? Or has it already finished?

[boss1]

Last Minute(s) predictions...

-Not even a hint towards ANY new hardware coming.

-Nothing earth-shattering as far as software.

...happily keeping expectations low. :D

Suprise the hell outta me Apple. Kthanx.

I don't mean to kick your expectations while they're low on the ground :o but it is what it is.

This is what will happen:

a bunch of bullet points on what you can expect with 3.0 along with a few screen shots
a release date or time frame for release (subject to change) for 3.0 ... Show ends.. go home everyone.
This will all be followed by a hundred threads on why 3.0 is a big disappointment. (And that's only because Apple hasn't revealed all yet)
There will be no tablet announcements, no release of anything.
Jim Cramer will see the stock dive (as planned) and will buy many shares low.

[DJ88]

Wow, some of you people are really narrow minded.

If *YOU* don't like a feature, then no one else wants/needs it? Come on, is that really how you think? Are you that selfish?



First, I can tell you multiple times I've lost out due to not having MMS. Usually at the worst times, like a girl sends me a picture to entice me just a little. Great ... didn't get it. Didn't even know it was sent. I'm now the jackass who ignored her and made her self-conscious of her body. Rock on!

Second, I don't necessarily want to send an email. Not everyone is tech saavy, not everyone has email ready phones and setting up email on phones is beyond some people. Heck, some people lived through the life of the VCR and never figured out how to set the clock!

Third, it's quite obnoxious to tell people to text message me at my email address. I get a blank stare like I've lost my mind.

Just because *YOU* don't like it, doesn't mean there isn't a use for it. Like it impacts your life somehow. It's akin to complaining about a new superhighway development in Richmond, Virginia ... when you live in San Diego, California.


THANK you!!


You knew the iphone didn't have MMS. If you NEED that feature, why did u buy it?

I never understood why people buy a product THEN EXPECT the company to update or upgrade it so it has the feature they want.

Have u ever buy ANY electronic good then expect the merchant or manufacture to UPGRADE/UPDATE it later for free??? Seriously.

It's a free country. As a consumer your $$ cast votes. Buy a product that serve your need.


Hmmm, maybe because everything else the phone does made me want to buy it over any other phone, just because it's missing one thing doesn't mean I shouldn't buy it.

Seriously, the Apple snobs around here just enforce all the stereotypes about Apple users more and more. Like someone else said, if MMS is stupid because you can just email, then hell, why even text message if you can email that too.

I hate to break it to you guys, but there's a world outsite your little bubble, and outside that world, very few people actually setup email on their phones, and MANY people like to send pictures with MMS, and I don't want to wait for somebody to go home and check their email on their computer to see the picture I sent them. I want to be able to send a picture to 99% of cell phone users, for them to be instantly notified about the picture, and to have an immediate response from them.

There's no reason to defend Apple for leaving out something that even the cheapest of phones does. Like I said earlier, I bought the phone because I loved everything about it except a couple things like MMS, but now it's been two years. It's a very simple addition to the software, and it would instantly make a lot of people happy and a lot of people reconsider getting an iphone.

It's not the end of the world for you, go right on ahead in your little bubble and use email instead of MMS with all your other technical savy friends. Nothing is going to change for you while the rest of the world enjoys something that should have been there a long time ago.

[hardliner]

Woohaa! I'm getting excited. Guys over at Engadet are starting their blog.

Would go now to some solid "mature" sites and have fun or after the Apple event???

[boss1]

Wow, some of you people are really narrow minded........snip............ Heck, some people lived through the life of the VCR and never figured out how to set the clock!
............

I admit I had a VCR I never set the clock on either, gave up and covered it with a black piece of black stretchy electrical tape.

[asaad]

spotlight :D

[kitki83]

let the rage begin!!!!!!
Ahh crap it started at 9:01am =P


Good presentation I gave myself realistic expectations and enjoyed what they have especially the diabetes feature.

[gtyper]

You knew the iphone didn't have MMS. If you NEED that feature, why did u buy it?

Because the feature set and capabilities of the product surpassed those with MMS. Simple pro and con.

At this point, they can add the feature and I would prefer my iPhone to have this option than to not have the option. If only to be able to receive my friend's messages.

Besides, I don't think I ever referred to "need".

I never understood why people buy a product THEN EXPECT the company to update or upgrade it so it has the feature they want.

Have u ever buy ANY electronic good then expect the merchant or manufacture to UPGRADE/UPDATE it later for free??? Seriously.

When the iPhone was introduced, the whole concept behind it was that it would be routinely supported through software updates which would increase the feature set. I'm suprised someone with such an ability to point out other's ill-conceived purchasing notions would not remember that.

I assumed, at the time of purchase, that the MMS capability would be added at some point in the future when the bugs were ironed out.

As an aside, I never felt any software upgrade with enhanced feature sets should be done without expectation of payment. The only software updates that should be free are mandatory updates that would brick the phone if not activated.

It's a free country. As a consumer your $$ cast votes. Buy a product that serve your need.

It's not a free country. Far from it.

Why is it that the people so opposed to the feature tend to be the biggest arses on the board?

[illegalprelude]

Same. Never liked MMS personally. Too expensive and unnecessary. Even more so now that email is available on phones. Why MMS somebody when I could email them for free? And they can get my email on a computer, phone or whatever. I rarely need people to check out a photo right that instant, so next time they check their email is fine for me.

wow. I would say a few million iPhone users all disagree with you and the fact that every phone on the planet can do it, makes the iphone look retarded. More so, because the majority of people out there dont just have a computer next to them and or dont own an iphone that can just check their emailed. So no, were not doing anything smart, were just locking ourselves out of 99% of the market with the way we interact with MMS which is, we dont.

[FerdiV]

I don't want to get spoiled. Where can I see the video which will be posted online? Is it there already?