QuickTime Stream of iPhone 3.0 Media Event Available [Archive]

MacRumors

Mar 17, 2009, 06:00 PM

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A QuickTime stream of Apple's iPhone 3.0 media event has been posted (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/preview-iphone-os/). The event revealed a massive list of new features for developers and end-users which we summarized in a previous post (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/17/highlights-of-apples-iphone-os-3-0-preview-copy-and-paste-a2dp-mms-much-more/).

The iPhone 3.0 software will be available to existing iPhone and iPod Touch users in the summer. Meanwhile, a beta version of the software is available to registered developers starting today.

Article Link: QuickTime Stream of iPhone 3.0 Media Event Available (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/17/quicktime-stream-of-iphone-3-0-media-event-available/)

aznkid25

Mar 17, 2009, 06:02 PM

Since everyone is gonna be trying to watch this, the stream will be really slow. Does anyone know how to get the direct download link?

iBug2

Mar 17, 2009, 06:02 PM

Since everyone is gonna be trying to watch this, the stream will be really slow. Does anyone know how to get the direct download link?

I can't even run it right now. It doesn't stream after 3 seconds. Anyone having similar problems?

SkippyThorson

Mar 17, 2009, 06:02 PM

Amen!

I'll be skipping through all those demos though. :)

Edit:
Loads, buffers, and streams just fine for me!

Taylor C

Mar 17, 2009, 06:03 PM

It's working fine here. I'm sure they'll release this via Apple's Keynote podcast, but it would be nice to get a direct link to the HD video file once they post it.

VanMac

Mar 17, 2009, 06:03 PM

Cool stuff. Now all I need is an iPhone to try some of this out :)

jmccullough108

Mar 17, 2009, 06:05 PM

Working great here.

mrblack927

Mar 17, 2009, 06:05 PM

Okay, why do these never work for me!

I have NEVER gotten one of these apple.com-hosted videos to play on my computer.

I'm using a MACBOOK PRO 10.5 with SAFARI and QUICKTIME and for some reason it just says "connecting" and never plays.

It even plays just fine on my ipod touch... but not my $2k+ computer?

gotohamish

Mar 17, 2009, 06:06 PM

I've been meaning to join the developer program. Does anyone know if joining allows you to put 3.0 on to your handset, or only view it in the testing emulator?

alexbates

Mar 17, 2009, 06:16 PM

Sweet! I'm going to watch the whole thing.

JPyre

Mar 17, 2009, 06:17 PM

@gotohamish

It allows you to run 3.0 on like 6 devices i think...
And allows you to publish preview versions of apps up to 100 test phones without the app store.

asdavis10

Mar 17, 2009, 06:17 PM

Works fine. Should show up in iTunes by the morning.

cublah

Mar 17, 2009, 06:18 PM

I've been meaning to join the developer program. Does anyone know if joining allows you to put 3.0 on to your handset, or only view it in the testing emulator?

Yes it does but.......Updating devices to iPhone OS 3.0 beta software. By installing iPhone OS 3.0 beta software on your Authorized Test Devices, these Devices are permanently “locked” into testing mode and cannot be restored to earlier versions of iPhone OS.

Goona

Mar 17, 2009, 06:21 PM

Apple really listened for the most part, more to come in the summer with the new iphone.

redgaz26

Mar 17, 2009, 06:24 PM

you can usually download it??
no links yet

queshy

Mar 17, 2009, 06:26 PM

Scott: "Suppose you have 2 kids in the back seat both with iPhones and they want to play backammon"

Haha, Apple, you'd love that eh??

a cat *miaow*

Mar 17, 2009, 06:27 PM

Steve Forstall really does a great Steve Jobs impression.. especially the bit where he explains the turn-by-turn mapping.. hahaha

The Samurai

Mar 17, 2009, 06:27 PM

Working well for me.

abhimat.gautam

Mar 17, 2009, 06:28 PM

Waiting for update on the Apple Keynotes Podcast now...

queshy

Mar 17, 2009, 06:30 PM

woah, I don't want my iPhone taking my BP...

Also, I hope "this summer" doesn't mean September 2009 haha.

macdsean

Mar 17, 2009, 06:35 PM

By installing iPhone OS 3.0 beta software on your Authorized Test Devices, these Devices are permanently “locked” into testing mode and cannot be restored to earlier versions of iPhone OS.

Yeah, I saw that too. What exactly is the testing mode? Is the iPhone fully functional, or will some aspects not work in testing mode?

aznkid25

Mar 17, 2009, 06:35 PM

I ended up streaming it using VLC, but it only got through about 10 minutes. The servers must be getting pounded right now.

joemama

Mar 17, 2009, 06:39 PM

Steve Forstall really does a great Steve Jobs impression.. especially the bit where he explains the turn-by-turn mapping.. hahaha

That's the first thing I noticed - how the first presenter was SERIOUSLY trying to speak, move and act ike Jobs.

Anyone else notice this?

tkermit

Mar 17, 2009, 06:41 PM

I don't dance like Elaine. Very funny :p

iChan

Mar 17, 2009, 06:44 PM

Anyone know how I can watch this on my iPhone over 3g?

queshy

Mar 17, 2009, 06:45 PM

wow, he used the word ass. that's a first from apple!

redgaz26

Mar 17, 2009, 06:51 PM

Anyone know how I can watch this on my iPhone over 3g?

you can!!:D

bozz2006

Mar 17, 2009, 06:53 PM

was it really necessary to link to the story immediately below this one? lol:rolleyes:

plumbingandtech

Mar 17, 2009, 06:53 PM

That Smule demo was awesome!

TuffLuffJimmy

Mar 17, 2009, 07:02 PM

Anyone know how I can watch this on my iPhone over 3g?

click the link and watch it on your phone... Need something googled for you too?

anim8or

Mar 17, 2009, 07:06 PM

Not working on my iPhone........

BLACK MAC

Mar 17, 2009, 07:08 PM

click the link and watch it on your phone... Need something googled for you too?

Sure see if you can find it smart girl. It's no posted on apples site to watch on the iPhone over cell signal.

FerdiV

Mar 17, 2009, 07:09 PM

Problem is, the video link doesn't show up on my iPhone. Anyone got a direct link???

Jayomat

Mar 17, 2009, 07:22 PM

nice features, lousy presentation... no emations, no "feeling", since apple, i hate the word "cool" "awesome" and..moe.. ;) anyway, can't wait to get it for my touch 1st gen

leodavinci0

Mar 17, 2009, 07:22 PM

Problem is, the video link doesn't show up on my iPhone. Anyone got a direct link???

Direct link anyone? We'd appreciate it.

alchemistmuffin

Mar 17, 2009, 07:22 PM

I MISS STEVE JOBS!

But still, good keynote.

BUT, I'm still waiting for the activation code to activate my iPhone Development Program.

dagamer34

Mar 17, 2009, 07:29 PM

Quick note: Steve Jobs didn't do a lot of the SDK presentation last time. That was Scott Forestall.

Anyway, I'm wondering when the full list of 100+ features will be released for iPhone OS 3.0. I remember when Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard came out, they advertised 300+ new features, but most people only use 10 of them on a regular basis (i.e. the new 3D Dock counted as one!).

However, I'm glad that they'd brought some meaningful updates to the OS. This might make me unjailbreak my phone!

P.S. anyone know if Mail searching includes the content of an e-mail or just From, To, Subject, and All (all 3 previous options)?

redgaz26

Mar 17, 2009, 07:34 PM

just finished watching, very cool features can't wait:D

Doju

Mar 17, 2009, 07:41 PM

DIRECT LINK PLEASE

Won't show on iPhone.

THE JUICEMAN

Mar 17, 2009, 07:41 PM

So when is a developer going to let the public get a copy of the beta software floating around the internet?? I want one now! (if this is possible)

alexbates

Mar 17, 2009, 07:43 PM

Heres the direct link:

http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/mar/0903lajkszg/m_090374535329zdwg_650_ref.mov

I'm not sure if its going to work on an iPhone though, because on my Mac it opens up quicktime player, which an iPhone doesn't really have. Let me know if it works! :)

cublah

Mar 17, 2009, 07:43 PM

So when is a developer going to let the public get a copy of the beta software floating around the internet?? I want one now! (if this is possible)

In theory its possible but what developer wants to lose their developer status

TuffLuffJimmy

Mar 17, 2009, 07:44 PM

Doju

Mar 17, 2009, 07:47 PM

hob

Mar 17, 2009, 07:52 PM

Since when does the iPhone not work with quicktime?

It runs the QT player but the movie doesn't load :(

alexbates

Mar 17, 2009, 07:52 PM

Since when does the iPhone not work with quicktime?

It has the Safari plugin but not actually the quicktime application itself. And it looks like someone posted that it doesn't work.

MrCrowbar

Mar 17, 2009, 07:53 PM

Great stuff. The copy paste implementation is simple, yet full featured. Landscape keyboards everywhere, MMS, global search (please also for nicknames and notes in contacts?), apps can use bluetooth, etc.
I actually don't like the landscape keyboard except for typing stuff the auto-corrector doesn't help at all (acronyms, some urls, swear words). I'm very fast with 2 thumbs on the portrait keyboard. :p

It's interesting that the original EDGE iPhone can't do MMS (1:26 in the video). I remember trying out MMS with my old Nokia phone in 2002. It was a real pain to set up right, took way too long to transmit (failed most of the time) and was kind of expensive. the maximum picture size was pathetic, too, so I just discarded the phone's SMS settings and never used that feature again. :-)

I think the day the iPhone OS 3.0 is released for the consumer, you can actually call the iPhone a Smartphone.

RTiii320

Mar 17, 2009, 07:55 PM

I cannot get the video the load either.. any ideas ?

alexbates

Mar 17, 2009, 08:01 PM

To get the video working on the iPhone, Apple needs to post a second version of the video where you can watch the video within Safari and not have to open the quicktime application. A video opening in Safari and a video opening in Quicktime player must be two different concepts, thats probably why no one can open it on an iPhone or iPod Touch.

drumpat01

Mar 17, 2009, 08:01 PM

download link?? not to stream but to actually download?

D3lta

Mar 17, 2009, 08:03 PM

This isn't working for me. The little wave at the bottom just keeps going, until eventually stopping with just the Q in the background. I tried using VLC and it worked, but it skipped making it unwatchable. I tried to let it buffer, but that didn't work.

Any other ideas?

infectbda

Mar 17, 2009, 08:08 PM

I was having troubles playing the video, but changing from UDP to HTTP delivery in the Quicktime setting seemed to fix the issue. You can change this in the Advanced tab, under "Transport Setup".

diamond.g

Mar 17, 2009, 08:11 PM

Did anyone notice the Copy/Cut/Paste implementation is different depending on the application. In safari it is tap and hold. In mail it is double tap. Couldn't tell if it is double tap in notes or not. In Messaging (SMS) it is tap and hold as well.

So we get to keep double tap to zoom, but now we need to remember how to perform the text shifting as it isn't the same for all applications.

Rojo

Mar 17, 2009, 08:11 PM

Ok, Spotlight is pretty hot, I must say. That's going to save me a lot of time, finding stuff...

Goona

Mar 17, 2009, 08:14 PM

Watching this it amazes me what the iphone can do, what did the Smule guys did was really nice.

slackpacker

Mar 17, 2009, 08:19 PM

I Think Greg was thinking I could have gotten more of a TAN... just a little longer and it will RULE.:cool:

TuffLuffJimmy

Mar 17, 2009, 08:25 PM

I hope by the finalized OS spotlight will be extendable to all applications and safari's history.

Masklinn

Mar 17, 2009, 08:38 PM

Did anyone notice the Copy/Cut/Paste implementation is different depending on the application. In safari it is tap and hold. In mail it is double tap. Couldn't tell if it is double tap in notes or not. In Messaging (SMS) it is tap and hold as well.
Seems that "fixed text" apps use tap-and-hold, while "editable text" gets double-tap.

Chundles

Mar 17, 2009, 08:41 PM

Seems that "fixed text" apps use tap-and-hold, while "editable text" gets double-tap.

Makes sense, no use trying to use double tap to zoom in in Safari only to have the copy-paste stuff come up.

I was wondering how that was going to work.

Any news on podcast/direct download yet?

diamond.g

Mar 17, 2009, 08:41 PM

Seems that "fixed text" apps use tap-and-hold, while "editable text" gets double-tap.

Good eye

Mr. Giver '94

Mar 17, 2009, 09:05 PM

So when exactly will the newest SDK be available for download????

I've been waiting until some of the features discussed were added because my App idea requires some of them. :)

diamond.g

Mar 17, 2009, 09:06 PM

So when exactly will the newest SDK be available for download????

I've been waiting until some of the features discussed were added because my App idea requires some of them. :)

Now.

AppleNiMac

Mar 17, 2009, 09:10 PM

As great as 3.0 is I feel there is other news here as well. Scott Forestall is a GREAT presenter. Someone other than Phil has been given the mic. Interesting...

Mr. Giver '94

Mar 17, 2009, 09:10 PM

Now.

Yeah sorry I figured that out. :p:o

Kind of upsetting that it requires the $99 just to get the development materials. :(

diamond.g

Mar 17, 2009, 09:14 PM

Yeah sorry I figured that out. :p:o

Kind of upsetting that it requires the $99 just to get the development materials. :(

No Problem. The 99 bucks os only for testing apps on a real phone and getting the beta os. You can still download the tools for free (run on the emulator).

cdembek

Mar 17, 2009, 09:17 PM

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5H11 Safari/525.20)

Ok so the keynote video posted, YOU CAN'T PLAY ON THE ITouch or phone? WTF

Mr. Giver '94

Mar 17, 2009, 09:25 PM

No Problem. The 99 bucks os only for testing apps on a real phone and getting the beta os. You can still download the tools for free (run on the emulator).

Oh really. Thanks! The 3.0 development tools??

As you can tell I'm new to the development world but it sounds like a fun process and possibly rewarding monetarily. :)

kockgunner

Mar 17, 2009, 09:26 PM

As great as 3.0 is I feel there is other news here as well. Scott Forestall is a GREAT presenter. Someone other than Phil has been given the mic. Interesting...

He actually presented the iPhone SDK last time too.

I kinda laughed when I saw the blood pressure monitor with the iPhone connector. It kinda creeped me out too, having Apple's technology so pervasive in our lives.

Did anyone else find it weird that they tested background apps on phones other than the iPhone?

macJC50640

Mar 17, 2009, 09:43 PM

arggghhh!!!! So frusterated! I really want to watch it...but apple.com, macrumors's link, and the direct link from another post ALL show the MacWorld 2009 Keynote! Please Help, I really want to see this. :mad::(:confused::eek:

vvebsta

Mar 17, 2009, 09:46 PM

i just want to say one thing... peer to peer connectivity is LAME! apps can already do this... what we need is 3G Edge connectivity. Come on apple!

Doju

Mar 17, 2009, 09:47 PM

Questions:

Do I have to pay $99 to beta or just sign up?

Can you copy the image link? (Copy image address a la Safari)

I don't have a computer at the moment so give us the damn keynote stream for iPhone. It's solely about iPhone's but we can't watch it on one.

kovalchuk71

Mar 17, 2009, 09:47 PM

So does this mean no new iphone? Is it just a software update?

MHerstand

Mar 17, 2009, 09:49 PM

Anyone else notice the slight of hand where Scott said "the in-app store will only work for paid apps" right after saying "and you can have apps like e-book readers where people purchase books within the app." Why should an e-book reader have to be paid? That doesn't make sense. Especially when they didn't announce any other way to let us give out trial version of apps. Now if we want people to get to know our interface before purchasing anything, we have to provide two separate applications! The In-App store was supposed to solve that problem! It also had the potential to solve the problem of the lack of trial-version support. Just let us sell free trial versions and after 7 days pop up a message that asks them to purchase it from within the app! That's how it works on computers - people are used to that model. I'd say this is Apple trying to push developers away from selling free apps at all. Boo.

Mr. Giver '94

Mar 17, 2009, 09:51 PM

So does this mean no new iphone? Is it just a software update?

No. The new iPhone will be announced in June at WWDC. This was just a PREVIEW of some of the features in the new software.

Don't worry, this is just the beginning. :)

MHerstand

Mar 17, 2009, 09:51 PM

Mr. Giver '94

Mar 17, 2009, 09:52 PM

Pingwhen?

Mar 17, 2009, 09:53 PM

on 3.0 if your on the 1st screen, if you press the home button agian it will go to search . i dont know if anyone has noticed this. sorry if said before already

LONG TIME READER!!
first time poster

dumbduck

Mar 17, 2009, 09:55 PM

http://tinyurl.com/iphone0s3

This link only redirects to the apple event page... I think it is the link that is messed up. Everytime I click it opens up Macworld 2009 Keynote... WTF APPLE

Doju

Mar 17, 2009, 09:57 PM

IPhone version is up woooo

drakeshipway

Mar 17, 2009, 10:07 PM

why are these videos always so small.. and when you expand them they're horrible quality?

brendon2020

Mar 17, 2009, 10:09 PM

anyway of watching this on my appletv?

oneals2focus

Mar 17, 2009, 10:12 PM

you can!!:D

Yup you can watch it on your iPhone 3G, I just got home and am watching right now! :cool:

kockgunner

Mar 17, 2009, 10:32 PM

Can you copy and paste in Safari without selecting the predetermined blocks of text? Also, how do you change formatting of the text after pasting? Seriously why did they take that long to implement copy and paste? In that long of a time, I would've expected something more sophisticated. Same with landscape mode? They're touting them it as a new feature when it was just a UI inconsistency to begin with. The rest is cool though.

jayducharme

Mar 17, 2009, 10:34 PM

This announcement made my day for just one reason: landscape in everything! Thank the Lord! It's baffled me that landscape mode only worked in certain apps. But Mail will actually be a pleasure to use now. And finally Notes will sync! Woohoo! Yeah, I know most people will say, "It's about time," but better late than never.

I really like the execution of cut, copy and paste. They seem to have gotten it right. Being able to search across the iPhone with Spotlight is great too. With so many changes (over 100), it will be interesting to what else is different over the next few months.

M2M

Mar 17, 2009, 11:02 PM

Yeah sms forwarding and it only took 2 years for that amazing feature to come :p

Thanks though. For me number one reason to want 3.0 now.

All other features seem to be nice.

Billy Boo Bob

Mar 17, 2009, 11:14 PM

The keynote/event is now available in iTunes. Can't work out the link, but it's in the Apple Keynotes PodCasts.

whynot83706

Mar 17, 2009, 11:53 PM

Does anyone know......

So if i register and pay $99, I will get beta 3.0? Now will registered users be getting updates for that beta as they roll out. Also, can I go back and forth from 3.0 to current version on the OS.

Thanks

vvebsta

Mar 17, 2009, 11:58 PM

ok after watching the whole sdk video.. some things that come to mind are..

1. I'm really going to be annoyed by constant pop up notifications... i hope apple does something similar to the palm pre notifications on the bottom of the screen.

2. What is so different about the original iphone that MMS isn't going to work?

3. Spotlight is cool but looks kinda messy.. i'd like app seperation a little more defined.

4. Why are they treating copy and paste and landscape mode like this gift from the gods?... they shoulda breezed by those two ..."sorry you shoulda had these along time ago, we've added c&p and landscape to everything...alright moving on!"

5. What about "Tasks, ToDos sync"?

6. Will safari cache and save multiple webpages open now instead of having to constantly reload when i reopen safari?

7. bring your own maps? is there going to be turn by turn navigation or not!?

TuffLuffJimmy

Mar 18, 2009, 12:07 AM

I'm really going to be annoyed by constant pop up notifications... i hope apple does something similar to the palm pre notifications on the bottom of the screen.
hopefully they'll wise up and put the notifications in the menubar.

What is so different about the original iphone that MMS isn't going to work?
Apple wants your money.

Spotlight is cool but looks kinda messy.. i'd like app seperation a little more defined.
This isn't the final version of the firmware

Why are they treating copy and paste and landscape mode like this gift from the gods?... they shoulda breezed by those two ..."sorry you shoulda had these along time ago, we've added c&p and landscape to everything...alright moving on!"
RDF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_distortion_field)

What about "Tasks, ToDos sync"?
Nope. :( at least that wasn't announced today. Maybe that will be one of the 100 other features.

Will safari cache and save multiple webpages open now instead of having to constantly reload when i reopen safari?
*sigh* someday...

bring your own maps? is there going to be turn by turn navigation or not!?

By third party developers, but Google won't allow their maps to be used in turn by turn navigators.

smoothdvd

Mar 18, 2009, 12:09 AM

hi, all! u can download mp4 version here:http://movies.apple.com/datapub/us/podcasts/apple_keynotes/iphone-os-3-preview-event-20090317.m4v

Stevestein12

Mar 18, 2009, 12:11 AM

can anyone tell me how to get the media event on my apple tv

TuffLuffJimmy

Mar 18, 2009, 12:12 AM

can anyone tell me how to get the media event on my apple tv

it's a podcast in the iTunes store.

Stevestein12

Mar 18, 2009, 12:13 AM

its not under apple keynotes? where would it be

MHerstand

Mar 18, 2009, 12:16 AM

In a way yes.

Would you like to be bombarded with ads and whatnot asking you to buy stuff from developers who make a free application but are looking to make a quick buck???

I thought not. This is where the model makes sense. :)

That logic doesn't make sense. If an app is annoying and doing that, the user would/could just delete the app. Besides, with the saturation of apps in every category imaginable, I would guess that it would be in a developer's best interest to make their apps as unobtrusive as possible. Besides, they currently can bombard you with ads and whatnot asking you to buy stuff, you just have to leave the app to actually do the buying. There's no reason to stop an extremely useful functionality just cause someone might make an annoying app. And there's no stopping a paid app from bombarding you with ads and whatnot. Apple isn't helping anyone by doing this.

smoothdvd

Mar 18, 2009, 12:17 AM

its not under apple keynotes? where would it be

here:http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=275834665, also u can direct download from my last reply post

vvebsta

Mar 18, 2009, 12:20 AM

RDF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_distortion_field)

thats hillarious

asdavis10

Mar 18, 2009, 12:24 AM

This was a great event in many ways. But I feel the biggest part of this event was that people other than Jobs can create excitement and anticipation about a great product. I wish Jobs good health and hope that he remains the CEO for many years to come. But Jobs isn't doing all the coding for the iPhone 3.0 OS. Apple employs thousands of talented employees and when you remove an icon like Jobs from a keynote, you get people to focus back on the product again. I think it would be great for Steve to no longer do these keynotes. He steals the spotlight too many times in these events, even if he isn't trying to (ie. his appearance at WWDC 2008). Remove the icon and people realize that Apple can still come out with great products. Yes Jobs' vision and strategy are a part of that but he can't be credited for everything.

vvebsta

Mar 18, 2009, 12:28 AM

brendon2020

Mar 18, 2009, 12:29 AM

here:http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=275834665, also u can direct download from my last reply post

looks like a delay, at least for me, but now i see it.

Mr. Giver '94

Mar 18, 2009, 12:44 AM

That logic doesn't make sense. If an app is annoying and doing that, the user would/could just delete the app. Besides, with the saturation of apps in every category imaginable, I would guess that it would be in a developer's best interest to make their apps as unobtrusive as possible. Besides, they currently can bombard you with ads and whatnot asking you to buy stuff, you just have to leave the app to actually do the buying. There's no reason to stop an extremely useful functionality just cause someone might make an annoying app. And there's no stopping a paid app from bombarding you with ads and whatnot. Apple isn't helping anyone by doing this.

I agree, but if they think of this as a feature, limiting its use to paid apps is smart because people won't a) delete the app and b) will be less bothered by it because it will be used as they described: a way to add purchasable expansions/enhancements to a game/app.

fobfob

Mar 18, 2009, 01:31 AM

"What about "Tasks, ToDos sync"?"

Nope. :( at least that wasn't announced today. Maybe that will be one of the 100 other features.

Agreed. I don't care if it's Apple or 3rd party, but I need to sync outlook Tasks to the phone, and the solutions so far just don't cut it (Our Outlook is not exposed to the web, and why should it be anyway). I'm syncing contacts locally, so why not Tasks? (and why not wirelessly, via bluetooth or wifi?)

slapppy

Mar 18, 2009, 01:44 AM

Downloading it now. :)

Otaviano

Mar 18, 2009, 04:43 AM

1) So much for all the Kevin Rose haters

2) So much for the crowd that said it wouldn't run on the original iPhone

Looks like a great update.

smoothdvd

Mar 18, 2009, 04:49 AM

another flash video version and mp4 version

here:

http://www.jz-life.com/watch?v=MEMToHAc15E

:D

iMaggot

Mar 18, 2009, 05:34 AM

Wow the micro payment idea is dumb, 99 cents to get a rocket launcher ???:confused: WTF is up with that, looks like no more free map updates for apps :mad: .

koobcamuk

Mar 18, 2009, 05:42 AM

Also, can I go back and forth from 3.0 to current version on the OS.

No. You can't.

Justibackwardsn

Mar 18, 2009, 05:46 AM

wow, he used the word ass. that's a first from apple!

Yea, and probably the last. Did you notice he started choking after he said it? He knew he was in trouble.

koobcamuk

Mar 18, 2009, 06:02 AM

Yea, and probably the last. Did you notice he started choking after he said it? He knew he was in trouble.

Ass is a mule/donkey hybrid.

Arse would have been a better term to have used ;)

EDIT: I jailbroke my phone ages ago, and changed the carrier to say "iPhone" using "makeitmine" and it is STILL there, in 3.0 even though I am not jailbroken now!

bobbleheadbob

Mar 18, 2009, 06:24 AM

What about a new version of the iPhone itself? Did they mention a release of the 3rd gen iPhone this summer as well? 32GB would be nice.

Masklinn

Mar 18, 2009, 06:46 AM

Wow the micro payment idea is dumb
Devs asked for it
99 cents to get a rocket launcher ???:confused:
ngcomo explained afterwards that this was simply a demo/proof of concept (they were supposed to put 3.0 features in). That part shouldn't be in when they release the actual game.

Do expect that kind of stuff from the likes of EA though. Think Xbox Marketplace. There will be lots of moneygrabbing at least in the beginning, but the word-of-mouth drive of the appstore should limit it somewhat.
WTF is up with that, looks like no more free map updates for apps :mad:
You're apparently not aware that developpers were already able to release "paid" updates... they just chose not to.
What about a new version of the iPhone itself? Did they mention a release of the 3rd gen iPhone this summer as well? 32GB would be nice.
No mention of new hardware.

diamond.g

Mar 18, 2009, 06:56 AM

Apple wants your money.
Oddly enough, owners of the 1st gen iPhones in the end will give Apple more money than owners of the 3G model. Remember it is in AT&T's best interest to get you on the 3G cause they don't have to share any of the service money with Apple. So if anything Apple should want the 1st gen iPhone owners to keep their phones for as long as possible.

koobcamuk

Mar 18, 2009, 06:56 AM

Also, my stocks app that I deleted is still deleted. Interesting!!

dan-o-mac

Mar 18, 2009, 06:59 AM

hi, all! u can download mp4 version here:http://movies.apple.com/datapub/us/podcasts/apple_keynotes/iphone-os-3-preview-event-20090317.m4v

Thanks for the link!

arkitect

Mar 18, 2009, 07:03 AM

Seems Phil was tremendously excited by the audience's response.

Seriously: Someone get that man some microphone etiquette lessons.
:o

stylewriter

Mar 18, 2009, 07:05 AM

Agreed. I don't care if it's Apple or 3rd party, but I need to sync outlook Tasks to the phone, and the solutions so far just don't cut it (Our Outlook is not exposed to the web, and why should it be anyway). I'm syncing contacts locally, so why not Tasks? (and why not wirelessly, via bluetooth or wifi?)

Outlook sync works very well via wifi... I don't know how you think it's supposed to work without exposing Outlook to the web. If your company doesn't want you using outside-computers/mobile-devices to access their Exchange server then I don't see what Apple can do about it.

DELLsFan

Mar 18, 2009, 07:26 AM

1) So much for all the Kevin Rose haters

2) So much for the crowd that said it wouldn't run on the original iPhone

Looks like a great update.

1) Once Kevin Rose's beau at Apple is exposed and removed, that'll be the end of his amazing insight.

2) I thought I read that some features would NOT be available on the original iPhone (like A2DP and MMS). Or did I misunderstand?

It still will be a great update.

michelle21

Mar 18, 2009, 07:46 AM

Well, the stream stuttered at first, but on third or forth attempt it looked pretty good. Didn't get much more out of it than looking at the pics on engadnet. Started downloading the sdk last night, it was still downloading when I went to bed. I have a 8mb cable modem but this download was extremely slow.

The getting started videos loaded very quickly and showed everything the demos did and more... they are a very good starting point.

I don't think I am going to put the beta on my iphone yet, I heard its a bit sluggish and your phone is locked into the testing software.
I would only put the beta on my phone if I could restore if there was an issue and the beta notes says that is not possible.

I ussually start development on the simulator anyway so I may wait a while and closer to summer get a touch to test the functionality of my apps.

Also the beta nda you have to click/sign doesn't let you post so much as a screen shot, further it sounds like just developing with the new sdk (even using a 2.21 framework) will prevent you from submitting to the app store.
I don't want to do that I may have an app or two I want to publish before summer.

There's a lot of buzz on the palm site about the pre still being better. I don' t own a pre but I do also have sprint so I was thinking about it until I found out it was a wm 6.1 device.

I use to develop a lot on wm platforms, it wasn't exactly hard but I couldn't describe it as fun, better I guess than toolchains and java me but still a pain. Developing with both dashcode and xcode is actually fun at times. The simulator is one of the best. Although the performance of the simulator is not always a good guage of how the app runs on the phone. Always asume the phone will be somewhat slower .

So for now the new sdk goes on one macbook pro and later a possible ipod touch and the 2.21 sdk remains on the new macbook pro I brought last month.

Curious how any other developers without more than one iphone are going to proceed with this. The temptation I know its to download it and try, But if something goes bad your without a phone for a whiile.

koobcamuk

Mar 18, 2009, 08:09 AM

But if something goes bad your without a phone for a whiile.

So long as I can call and SMS with it, I'll be fine. It's pretty stable to be honest.

aaquib

Mar 18, 2009, 09:01 AM

I wish Steve Jobs would do all the major announcements like new products... I think he does the best job, he's the most personable one on stage, imo.

I thought the same thing after watching Macworld 09, but after seeing this keynote, I'm pleasantly surprised. Scott Forestall and Jos did an excellent job presenting and the reality distortion field was still there :p

But Phil Schiller....No. Scott Forestall is a much better spaker.

aaquib

Mar 18, 2009, 09:04 AM

Do expect that kind of stuff from the likes of EA though. Think Xbox Marketplace. There will be lots of moneygrabbing at least in the beginning, but the word-of-mouth drive of the appstore should limit it somewhat.

Agreed. EA is notoriously known on Xbox Live to charge for the most minor update. In fact, many of the downloadable pieces of content available on the Marketplace are actually ON THE DISC, and you're paying to unlock them. EA WILL nickel-and-dime us.

steviem

Mar 18, 2009, 09:13 AM

There's a lot of buzz on the palm site about the pre still being better. I don' t own a pre but I do also have sprint so I was thinking about it until I found out it was a wm 6.1 device.

Where did you find out webOS is windows mobile? I thought the reason for the Pre's hype was that webOS is Linux based... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_webOS

koobcamuk

Mar 18, 2009, 09:14 AM

I wish Steve Jobs would do all the major announcements like new products... I think he does the best job, he's the most personable one on stage, imo.

Yeh, but he might be dead.

a cat *miaow*

Mar 18, 2009, 09:30 AM

Seems Phil was tremendously excited by the audience's response.

Seriously: Someone get that man some microphone etiquette lessons.
:o

Hahahaha.. now at least I can believe it when the old line "We've got some great products coming up that we're very very excited about" makes an appearance

a cat *miaow*

Mar 18, 2009, 09:40 AM

But Phil Schiller....No. Scott Forestall is a much better spaker.

Phil does have his own personality rather than the Jobs clones.

As long as Dramatic Pause 'Jony' Ive doesn't do any at least they'll be watchable

CBX

Mar 18, 2009, 10:02 AM

Would rather have seen demo's done by TomTom and Sling rather than a blood pressure monitor app!

Otaviano

Mar 18, 2009, 10:47 AM

Ass is a mule/donkey hybrid.

Arse would have been a better term to have used ;)

EDIT: I jailbroke my phone ages ago, and changed the carrier to say "iPhone" using "makeitmine" and it is STILL there, in 3.0 even though I am not jailbroken now!

So I take it the pwange hack carries on to 3.0?

Nice!

ravenblue

Mar 18, 2009, 11:58 AM

Okay, about Apple's long-standing tradition of posting a quicktime stream after a special event. Why do they bother? Does anyone actually get to see this video, cos this thread seems to indicate that many, if not most, cannot see it at all, at least not until days after when enough people have lost interest.

Clearly Apple do not care enough to distribute the video adequately on load-balanced servers or Akamai or whatever. They seem content to let people click on it and watch it stop and start and be entertained by all the encoding artifacts.

I would love to know why they do this with such consistency, as though they are building up as much negative publicity about the Quicktime product line as they can manage.

leodavinci0

Mar 18, 2009, 12:27 PM

Seems that "fixed text" apps use tap-and-hold, while "editable text" gets double-tap.

I think this is worth repeating here, since I was wondering why the difference existed.

twoodcc

Mar 18, 2009, 06:45 PM

i need to watch this soon, maybe this weekend

automan98

Mar 19, 2009, 12:10 AM

There's always something exciting about an Apple event - even without Jobs.

MacAndy74

Mar 19, 2009, 03:35 AM

Excellent event, and it's even better now, it's up in high res on iTunes :cool:

Breckenridge

Mar 19, 2009, 05:37 AM

iShak

Mar 19, 2009, 05:43 AM

this is the first quicktime stream from an Apple event that I have no urge to sit through and watch. So just tell me, was Scott good? I really hope he was!

MrCrowbar

Mar 21, 2009, 12:34 PM

in my line of work I have to have a video camera in my phone. I've been waiting for apple to do this darn implementation for 2 years now. Where is the wisdom in not allowing video recording on a the, so called, most advanced phone phone?

Might be for 2 reasons:
- The camera in the current iPhone is pretty bad, has low framerate and the CMOS sensor sweep (horizontal movement results in skewed object on picture) is very noticable. This does not live up to Apple's high standard. Maybe the next iPhone version will have a significantly better camera.
- The iPhone has little RAM so the video is stored on the Main, Flash Memory. Lifetime of that kind of flash memory is limited and recording lots of video might kill the storage hardware faster than you'd like. Usual camera phones have a different kind of internal memory and use replaceable memory cards for most of the data. The next iPhone might use a different or just improved kind of Flash memory to handle lots of write cycles that come with video recording.

I tried out most of those video recording apps and they're pretty disappointing, even on maximum settings. I'd much rather have an attachment for the 30-pin connector that has the camera and a SD card slot and is controlled and powered via the iPhone. The Canon Powershot interface would work pretty well on iPhone actually.