USB Tethering Working on iPhone 3.0

[MacRumors]

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One developer (http://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/status/1349821324) was "hacking around (http://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/status/1349585330)" with some carrier bundle files and iPhone 3.0 and somehow managed to activate the tethering preferences. Not only that, he was also able to actually tether his iPhone 3G to his laptop over USB. Based on the preference panel, it appears that you will be able to tether via USB or Bluetooth.

Tethering is a feature that allows you to share your iPhone's internet connection with your laptop, but has not been an allowed feature up until iPhone 3.0. Even with iPhone 3.0, mobile carriers generally charge an extra fee in the U.S. to allow tethering access.

Apple admitted that they had built in tethering support into the 3.0 release but had not yet coordinated with mobile carriers.

Article Link: USB Tethering Working on iPhone 3.0 (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/18/usb-tethering-working-on-iphone-3-0/)

[Small White Car]

Well, it's proof that they were telling the truth.

I didn't doubt them, but I'm sure this will convince others who may have been more skeptical.

I'm still betting AT&T will charge another $30 for tethering on top of your normal data plan, so don't hold your breath on this being a popular "killer feature."

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Awesome! I can't wait, netshare has been too buggy to be really useful.

[plumbingandtech]

Yep. It's there.

And it will be a separate charge unless ATT and Apple change things compared to ATT's current data plan.


I'll be signing up on day 1 btw. Looking forward to it.

[P-Worm]

finally

All this means is that the software is there. It doesn't mean that AT&T is going to allow it.

P-Worm

[AngryApple]

How much does it usually cost to tether?

[arn]

All this means is that the software is there. It doesn't mean that AT&T is going to allow it.

P-Worm

AT&T has tethering options for all other smartphones. I'm sure they'll be happy to take your money

Tethering cost: $30/month extra.

arn

[plumbingandtech]

How much does it usually cost to tether?

Appx. 30$ US for the dataplan unless I am mistaken, (this is what I saw for the blackberry at least)

[xsecretfiles]

lol yup I am 100% this is not going to be free :)

[mac jones]

This always made me nervous as the little kiddies hog the airwaves.

I just hope ATT can shut them down by charging for heavy use.

don't know.

But I remember a few years back this was a serious point of contention.

I don't use this feature often , just in emergencies.

So You wouldn't want the 911 lines to be busy when you need them right? :D

[mBox]

Appx. 30$ US for the dataplan unless I am mistaken, (this is what I saw for the blackberry at least)Rogers Canada has most of us on the 6GB plan which was an extra 30bucks a month. Ive never gone past 1GB ever! To get to 1GB I had leave last.FM on almost every day during work hours. I dont even have time to listen to that much music :P Do I welcome this...uh huh ;)

[ricosuave]

Does ATT charge extra to surf and email on the blackberry on top of 30 dollars to tether?

[fleshman03]

Cool Stuff.

It's not worth $30/month for me, but I could see myself using it if I was in the mountains or something for a few days. Then I'd cancel the tethering service.

[arn]

Does ATT charge extra to surf and email on the blackberry on top of 30 dollars to tether?

Yes, the $30 unlimited internet for iPhone is the same rate that they charge for other smartphones.

An additional $30 for tethering on other smartphones. This hasn't been on option for the iPhone yet.

arn

[jdechko]

I just hope that all of these companies realize that on an "unlimited" plan (even if it is a soft-cap of 5GB) a few hundred megs or even 1 or 2GB of tethered traffic isn't going to make much of a difference and not charge for light tethering. Especially if you're not going over the 5GB soft-cap anyway.

Hopefully the app works without a tethering plan and i can use ~1GB per month tethered without incurring additional charges. Or AT&T can tier their data plans and combine handset and tethered data: $30 for 5GB, $45 for 10GB and $60 for unlimited.

[Walter P Henson]

How would they charge for use of it if it is already included in the OS on the phone? Would ATT somehow be able to tell that you were tethering to your computer rather than surfing the net in your phone's browser? Or would they simply rely on you going over your "unlimited data" cap of 5 GBs?

[IMPMAC]

This is O2 UK and its only in the UK and not the US

[pmanija]

I guess the function is disabled (like emoji ar Street View on iPod touch), so its only matter of time, or a Cydia "plugin" and its active...

[bilboa]

Does ATT charge extra to surf and email on the blackberry on top of 30 dollars to tether?

For AT&T's other smartphones, they charge $30/month for a data plan which you can only use on your phone, and an additional $30/month if you want to tether your phone to your laptop. I see no reason why they'd do anything different for the iPhone.

[OriginalMacRat]

Tethering is a feature that allows you to share your iPhone's internet connection with your laptop, but has not been an allowed feature up until iPhone 3.0. Even with iPhone 3.0, mobile carriers generally charge an extra fee in the U.S. to allow tethering access.

T-Mobile US does not charge extra for tethering.

I've been tethering my Macs to my phones on T-Mobile for years.

[huntercr]

awww.. boo. I was really hoping you could tether over wireless. By that I mean have the iphone act as an AP. Even if it couldn't directly act as an AP, it would be great to have it be able to broadcast itself over Bonjour and then your PC/Mac can see it and use it as a bridge that way.

[MasterNile]

Has anyone with AT&T and an iPhone running 3.0 beta been able to activate the tethering as well?

[erifneerg]

now some tethering between my mobile phone and ipod touch.... oh i would love that sooo much. (yes bluetooth will be enable in ipod touch 2g)

[JPark]

For AT&T's other smartphones, they charge $30/month for a data plan which you can only use on your phone, and an additional $30/month if you want to tether your phone to your laptop. I see no reason why they'd do anything different for the iPhone.

I'm hoping they're overcome with a newfound and overwhelming feeling of generosity.

[badcrumble]

Here comes a big battle between AT&T and jailbreakers.

[zsilverman]

Haha, i guess all those who complain about rogers are praising them now. they charge us canadians $30 for a 6gb (similar to att - $30 for unlimited)(6gb is virtually unlimited for iphone use - never passed 250mb) but rogers allows teethering and att doesnt. lol

Z

[Drumjim85]

An additional $30 for tethering on other smartphones. This hasn't been on option for the iPhone yet.

arn

but also, the tethering is limited to 5gb a month. (on ATT)

[zsilverman]

but also, the tethering is limited to 5gb a month. (on ATT)

i thought it was unlimited?

wow

Z

[ricosuave]

Haha, i guess all those who complain about rogers are praising them now. they charge us canadians $30 for a 6gb (similar to att - $30 for unlimited)(6gb is virtually unlimited for iphone use - never passed 250mb) but rogers allows teethering and att doesnt. lol

Z

How do you tether on your rogers iPhone?

[diamond.g]

i thought it was unlimited?

wow

Z

Nope, I think all the US Carriers have a 5GB soft limit.

[zsilverman]

How do you tether on your rogers iPhone?

so far you couldnt because the iphone didnt allow it (unless uv jailbroken before) however rogers policy has always been that teethering is allowed. but i know a few people who have jailbroken and teether and its okay. rogers wants u teether so that u go over ur 6gb data plan.

[Drumjim85]

i thought it was unlimited?

wow

Z

your phone use is, but when you spend an extra $30 to unlock tethering, that part of data is only 5gb.... the whole thing is stupid if you ask me.

[MasterNile]

Yes, "unlimited" is not really unlimited, it's limited by fair use policy. I'm not sure of AT&Ts fair use policy but I do believe it's 5GB/month as diamond said.

so far you couldnt because the iphone didnt allow it (unless uv jailbroken before) however rogers policy has always been that teethering is allowed. but i know a few people who have jailbroken and teether and its okay. rogers wants u teether so that u go over ur 6gb data plan.

I thought you could tether on any carrier using netshare without having to pay the extra fee, which is why Apple pulled it from the AppStore, carriers didn't like it.

[profets]

so far you couldnt because the iphone didnt allow it (unless uv jailbroken before) however rogers policy has always been that teethering is allowed. but i know a few people who have jailbroken and teether and its okay. rogers wants u teether so that u go over ur 6gb data plan.

yup.. i'm on rogers and have jailbroken. i tether quite often and it works great. just uses data from the $30/6gig i have on my account.

this will be great that its built in now..

[amac4me]

Yes, "unlimited" is not really unlimited, it's limited by fair use policy. I'm not sure of AT&Ts fair use policy but I do believe it's 5GB/month as diamond said.

For all the major US providers (AT&T, VerizonWireless, Sprint) unlimited is capped at 5GB per month. The use of 'unlimited' is VERY misleading.

[zsilverman]

I thought you could tether on any carrier using netshare without having to pay the extra fee, which is why Apple pulled it from the AppStore, carriers didn't like it.

i think they pulled it because of att. so yea if u managed ot buy netshare in the few days that it was available, i guess u would have been able to teether with rogers no problem. but they pulled it out of all stores which is stupid. they should have only pulled it out of the countries in which the carriers didnt want it.

[Small White Car]

awww.. boo. I was really hoping you could tether over wireless. By that I mean have the iphone act as an AP. Even if it couldn't directly act as an AP, it would be great to have it be able to broadcast itself over Bonjour and then your PC/Mac can see it and use it as a bridge that way.

How is any of that different than connecting with Bluetooth, as shown in the photo?

[lazyrighteye]

Access squashed in 3... 2... 1...

[profets]

that netshare app that was briefly in the app store was annoying though as it was just proxy based tether

[MasterNile]

i think they pulled it because of att. so yea if u managed ot buy netshare in the few days that it was available, i guess u would have been able to teether with rogers no problem. but they pulled it out of all stores which is stupid. they should have only pulled it out of the countries in which the carriers didnt want it.

Agreed, but I guess they didn't want people going to the UK to get netshare and then using it in the US. (lol long trip just to get an app, but maybe you were going anyway?)

[slicecom]

How do you tether on your rogers iPhone?

I tether my Rogers iPhone with Netshare. No need to jailbreak.

[slu]

awww.. boo. I was really hoping you could tether over wireless. By that I mean have the iphone act as an AP. Even if it couldn't directly act as an AP, it would be great to have it be able to broadcast itself over Bonjour and then your PC/Mac can see it and use it as a bridge that way.

Do you mean use the 3G connection and allow multiple computers to use Wifi to connect to the internet via the iPhone? That sounds like a performance nightmare and also sounds like a hardware limitation.

[audioteknika]

Netshare what ?...

Pdanet is miles ahead of the competition.

[JFreak]

In most of Europe, tethering is free. But we do pay per megabyte or X euros per month for data plan. They sure know how to get our money, but in my point of view it would be a deal-breaker if I had to pay 15 euros for data plan plus additional 15 euros for being able to use it with my computer. A data plan is a data plan, I should be able to use it as I wish, with my phone directly or connected to my computer.

[koobcamuk]

Netshare what ?...

Pdanet is miles ahead of the competition.

I wont pay for a jailbroken app!

[Ron21]

Is there instructions on how to activate tethering in 3.0??

[Saladinos]

Carriers charge extra because people typically download larger volumes of data when on a more comfortable device such as a laptop, and because downloads (such as automatic updates) tend to be larger.

Of course, that sort of flies in the face of the whole 'unlimited' thing, but meh.

Good thing I live in a country where I can tether at no additional cost, according to O2.

[CalumC]

Carriers charge extra because people typically download larger volumes of data when on a more comfortable device such as a laptop, and because downloads (such as automatic updates) tend to be larger.

Of course, that sort of flies in the face of the whole 'unlimited' thing, but meh.

Good thing I live in a country where I can tether at no additional cost, according to O2.

If you mean UK then i might have just made a mess on aisle 3.

[G4R2]

Now doubt AT&T will follow up with an exorbitant fee in order completely tether us by our testicles.

[mogzieee]

If O2 UK offer a tethering option with a low cost (ideally <£10) if/when the next iPhone gets released in the summer, I will buy an iPhone. End of!

[pika2000]

No worries, AT&T will make sure this doesn't happen without another expensive monthly payment and a super low bandwidth cap.

[ViViDboarder]

I wont pay for a jailbroken app!

why is it any different? Jailbreaking isn't piracy. Everything doesn't have to be free. It's just things that Apple wouldn't let devs do. I am still using the demo version. I have only used it once or twice in emergencies. But it's not like it's easier to make JB software and they wouldn't deserve to get paid. I'll feel better about buying it through Cydia Store.

[MistaBungle]

This is such awesome news! Not only will it be built into the OS, it will not incur any other costs on Rogers!

[Airforcekid]

I have a feeling this will be free due to the fact it will sell more iPhones adding $60 is better than just $30.

[Veri]

And only 9 years after I was tethering with my Motorola Timeport.

Mind you, I was also "browsing the mobile web" with my Timeport. WML's not the same as the full WWW, of course. I mean, certainly no support for Java or Flash, like with modern phones.

Bravo, Apple, bravo.

[MasterNile]

No worries, AT&T will make sure this doesn't happen without another expensive monthly payment and a super low bandwidth cap.

$30/month for tethering and 5GB/month, while I would rather not pay the $30 it's not too much for most people (for me it is, but so is any iPhone plan which is why I have an iPod Touch) and 5GB/month for something you're going to use as a secondary internet (hopefully) is not too low of a bandwidth cap.

[str1f3]

And only 9 years after I was tethering with my Motorola Timeport.

Mind you, I was also "browsing the mobile web" with my Timeport.

Bravo, Apple, bravo.

you want an applause or something?

[jzuena]

In most of Europe, tethering is free. But we do pay per megabyte or X euros per month for data plan. They sure know how to get our money, but in my point of view it would be a deal-breaker if I had to pay 15 euros for data plan plus additional 15 euros for being able to use it with my computer. A data plan is a data plan, I should be able to use it as I wish, with my phone directly or connected to my computer.

Just imagine if it was more like €22.25 for data and then another €22.25 for tethering. This is what AT&T charges for other smart phones that currently support tethering. That equals the ~ €44.50 lowest end voice plan and doesn't include the ~ €7.50 extra if you want to use SMS.

[CalZephyr]

(yes bluetooth will be enable in ipod touch 2g)

Are you saying the iPod touches have Bluetooth in them, but it's not enabled? And it will be with 3.0?

[mobius42]

Just thought I'd point out that this is O2 Ireland, not UK. He uploaded a custom carrier bundle and that activated it.

[MasterNile]

Are you saying the iPod touches have Bluetooth in them, but it's not enabled? And it will be with 3.0?

We've known the iPod Touch 2nd gen had bluetooth since the release if you paid attention to the disassembly pics/info on ifixit.com, until 3.0 it has only been able to be used for nike+, now with 3.0 they are opening it up to other devices.

Meanwhile, Apple also revealed that Bluetooth support can be activated in the 2nd generation iPod Touches.

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Are you saying the iPod touches have Bluetooth in them, but it's not enabled? And it will be with 3.0?

They do have bluetooth that isn't enabled. It is unclear whether or not they will enable it with 3.0

[MistaBungle]

Which is great news. I like the idea of wireless music is kind of neat. I also think that demo of the device becoming the equalizer for the speaker (shown in the video).

Isn't it already stated that 3.0 will enable/unlock/open up bluetooth on the touches?

[jessica.]

I wonder if you can turn on and off tethering as needed. During months I wish to travel I may want this, otherwise, they can pound sand.

[alexbates]

So is it possible to currently get an iPhone running the 3.0 beta working with tethering on the AT&T network? (If not, then the steps below might be pointless) This developer looks like he is on the O2 network so I am just wondering if it works the same way in the US.

Here's my idea to get around having to pay an extra $30 a month:
1) Join the Apple developer team for $100 and get the 3.0 beta running
2) Figure out how to get tethering working just like this guy has it running (I bet someone will have figured out within a week and steps will be circulating on the Internet shortly after)
3) Use tethering for no extra charge on you iPhone and never upgrade to the regular 3.0 version when it comes out in the summer. (so AT&T won't make you pay)

I hope this could be a possibility for anyone that wants tethering!

[lozanoj83]

So is it possible to currently get an iPhone running the 3.0 beta working with tethering on the AT&T network? (If not, then the steps below might be pointless) This developer looks like he is on the O2 network so I am just wondering if it works the same way in the US.

Here's my idea to get around having to pay an extra $30 a month:
1) Join the Apple developer team for $100 and get the 3.0 beta running
2) Figure out how to get tethering working just like this guy has it running (I bet someone will have figured out within a week and steps will be circulating on the Internet shortly after)
3) Use tethering for no extra charge on you iPhone and never upgrade to the regular 3.0 version when it comes out in the summer. (so AT&T won't make you pay)

I hope this could be a possibility for anyone that wants tethering!

Dont forget that the betas expire after a certain amount of time and if you dont update it your phone will become inoperable.

[TuffLuffJimmy]

So is it possible to currently get an iPhone running the 3.0 beta working with tethering on the AT&T network? (If not, then the steps below might be pointless) This developer looks like he is on the O2 network so I am just wondering if it works the same way in the US.

Here's my idea to get around having to pay an extra $30 a month:
1) Join the Apple developer team for $100 and get the 3.0 beta running
2) Figure out how to get tethering working just like this guy has it running (I bet someone will have figured out within a week and steps will be circulating on the Internet shortly after)
3) Use tethering for no extra charge on you iPhone and never upgrade to the regular 3.0 version when it comes out in the summer. (so AT&T won't make you pay)

I hope this could be a possibility for anyone that wants tethering!

No one in their right mind would do that. They'd have to have the buggy beta software (which all reports say is definitely not ready for a release) for the rest of the time they use that phone.

[srl7741]

I don't need it however it's so nice to see it's an option and like other Apple product will "Just work" making it sweet for those who do need it. I never like to see anything crippled. I would much rather have choices.

[nabechu]

So is it possible to currently get an iPhone running the 3.0 beta working with tethering on the AT&T network? (If not, then the steps below might be pointless) This developer looks like he is on the O2 network so I am just wondering if it works the same way in the US.

Here's my idea to get around having to pay an extra $30 a month:
1) Join the Apple developer team for $100 and get the 3.0 beta running
2) Figure out how to get tethering working just like this guy has it running (I bet someone will have figured out within a week and steps will be circulating on the Internet shortly after)
3) Use tethering for no extra charge on you iPhone and never upgrade to the regular 3.0 version when it comes out in the summer. (so AT&T won't make you pay)

I hope this could be a possibility for anyone that wants tethering!

the beta is time limited

[peteelew]

I have Netshare and it works great. As long as Apple does not block it somehow, I will not pay a dime to get tethering. The data service is high enough as it is, why should we pay more? In Australia, I have heard that their 3G services are government funded and are 15 times faster than anything we have as far as any internet service. Hooray for socialism.

[bowzer]

I have netshare, but the battery life is terrible... using it, even plugged in, your battery cant charge fast enough to keep up.

Hopefully the 'official' solution isnt the same

[Snide]

PdaNet works great, and is indeed many, many light-years ahead of Netshare.

Who cares about "official" tethering if AT&T is going to rape us for the "privilege"?

[alexbates]

Dont forget that the betas expire after a certain amount of time and if you dont update it your phone will become inoperable.

Ahhh, that stinks. It would be great if there wasn't a time limit.

No one in their right mind would do that. They'd have to have the buggy beta software (which all reports say is definitely not ready for a release) for the rest of the time they use that phone.

The last beta release right before the regular version comes out might actually be pretty stable and not have too many bugs. But I guess it won't work anyway because of the time limit.

[Veri]

you want an applause or something?
I was poking fun at Apple's usual tardiness to the game, not biggin' myself up.

However, I've rethought it and yes, I would like an applause. If the average idiot like myself can do stuff a decade before Apple announces it as a Great New Thing then I think it's only right that we raise our glasses to the average idiot.

So here's to me, and whoever else just enjoys getting stuff working without the need for a ready meal marketed directly to their stomachs!

[Houli]

Is there instructions on how to activate tethering in 3.0??

All I know that was required to do this was a modified carrier settings bundle. He wasn't even trying to achieve this he was just modifying the settings to get MMS. No jailbreak was required.

[MasterNile]

I was poking fun at Apple's usual tardiness to the game, not biggin' myself up.

However, I've rethought it and yes, I would like an applause. If the average idiot like myself can do stuff a decade before Apple announces it as a Great New Thing then I think it's only right that we raise our glasses to the average idiot.

So here's to me, and whoever else just enjoys getting stuff working without the need for a ready meal marketed directly to their stomachs!

But Apple isn't saying it's new to all cellphones, they're saying it's new to their cellphone which is less than 3 years old. And how long had Motorola been in the cellphone business by the time you were tethering? I guarantee you it was longer than 3 years.

[QuarterSwede]

They do have bluetooth that isn't enabled. It is unclear whether or not they will enable it with 3.0

It's perfectly clear. Apple said the touch would get A2DP and peer to peer gaming, etc. I take it you didn't read the current news coverage or see the webcast?

[Chupa Chupa]

I have a feeling this will be free due to the fact it will sell more iPhones adding $60 is better than just $30.

If that were true ATT would already offer "free" tethering for the phones it sells that already have this ability. Tethering won't be free, if only because it would cannibalize its wireless internet service which is $60/mo.

Also, if you have millions of phones out there w/ free tethering that is a lot of bandwidth, and you can't make a profit giving that way on a $70 plan.

[MasterNile]

It's perfectly clear. Apple said the touch would get A2DP and peer to peer gaming, etc. I take it you didn't read the current news coverage or see the webcast?

I didn't see the webcast but I did read the article on MR (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/17/highlights-of-apples-iphone-os-3-0-preview-copy-and-paste-a2dp-mms-much-more/) and it doesn't say the touch would get A2DP or P2P gaming, it said the iPhone would get those and...

Meanwhile, Apple also revealed that Bluetooth support can be activated in the 2nd generation iPod Touches.

No where in the article does it definitely say the BT will be activated in the 2nd gen Touches, does the webcast say differently?

[TuffLuffJimmy]

It's perfectly clear. Apple said the touch would get A2DP and peer to peer gaming, etc. I take it you didn't read the current news coverage or see the webcast?

No they didn't as far as I can tell. Do you have a link?

[Chupa Chupa]

But Apple isn't saying it's new to all cellphones, they're saying it's new to their cellphone which is less than 3 years old. And how long had Motorola been in the cellphone business by the time you were tethering? I guarantee you it was longer than 3 years.

That is some twisted logic. That's like criticizing Ford because the Model T didn't have electric windows. What difference does it make how long Moto has been in the cell biz? The concept of tethering has been around for nearly a decade.

The truth is, though it's not cell phone makers that make the call on whether to include features like tethering. It's 100% up to the cell phone provider.

[QuarterSwede]

If that were true ATT would already offer "free" tethering for the phones it sells that already have this ability. Tethering won't be free, if only because it would cannibalize its wireless internet service which is $60/mo.

Also, if you have millions of phones out there w/ free tethering that is a lot of bandwidth, and you can't make a profit giving that way on a $70 plan.

Not that I don't think they won't charge for it but why not? They charge for SMS which costs them absolutely no extra bandwidth.

[Goona]

I was poking fun at Apple's usual tardiness to the game, not biggin' myself up.

However, I've rethought it and yes, I would like an applause. If the average idiot like myself can do stuff a decade before Apple announces it as a Great New Thing then I think it's only right that we raise our glasses to the average idiot.

So here's to me, and whoever else just enjoys getting stuff working without the need for a ready meal marketed directly to their stomachs!
Since when did Apple annouce this as a great new feature? :rolleyes:

[MasterNile]

That is some twisted logic. That's like criticizing Ford because the Model T didn't have electric windows. What difference does it make how long Moto has been in the cell biz? The concept of tethering has been around for nearly a decade.

The truth is, though it's not cell phone makers that make the call on whether to include features like tethering. It's 100% up to the cell phone provider.

Building a cellphone business (of division in Apple case) is going to take a while to get it right, and AT&T already had tethering for other phones, so I really don't think it's AT&T.

[michael.lauden]

YES.

i just hope this feature doesn't end tethering via jailbreak. i hope it only forces AT&T to allow it in the unlimited data plan.

after all - whether the data is on your computer, or on your iPhone - what's the difference right?

[MasterNile]

YES.

i just hope this feature doesn't end tethering via jailbreak. i hope it only forces AT&T to allow it in the unlimited data plan.

after all - whether the data is on your computer, or on your iPhone - what's the difference right?

Yes looking at it as an individual if you download 2GB on your computer or on your phone it's the same 2GB, looking at it from AT&Ts perspective, if you have (just for example) 1000 customers, it's much easier to run up 2GB on your computer than on your phone, so more than likely you're going to use more than 2GB on your computer than on your phone, multiply that times 1000 and you're looking at a lot of network traffic, which costs money.

[colonels1020]

Cool Stuff.

It's not worth $30/month for me, but I could see myself using it if I was in the mountains or something for a few days. Then I'd cancel the tethering service.

lol. Just wait until the jailbreak team gets ahold of it. I'm sure they'll make a workaround for tethering without the need to pay extra. :)

[emotion]

If I can tether then I'm more likely to get that netbook I've been eyeing up.

Or maybe that 10" screen Apple touch device all the rumours have been floating about....

[michael.lauden]

Yes looking at it as an individual if you download 2GB on your computer or on your phone it's the same 2GB, looking at it from AT&Ts perspective, if you have (just for example) 1000 customers, it's much easier to run up 2GB on your computer than on your phone, so more than likely you're going to use more than 2GB on your computer than on your phone, multiply that times 1000 and you're looking at a lot of network traffic, which costs money.

well yeah.. but if AT&T is so great and reliable they should be able to handle way more than they will ever need to

[MasterNile]

well yeah.. but if AT&T is so great and reliable they should be able to handle way more than they will ever need to

LOL, I don't know where you got the impression that they are so great, watch too many commercials?

[Willis]

now some tethering between my mobile phone and ipod touch.... oh i would love that sooo much. (yes bluetooth will be enable in ipod touch 2g)

it seems this hasn't been picked up yet.

I don't think you'll be able to use the tethering in which you wish. I think it will be mainly for iPhone to computer rather than giving an iPod Touch access to the internet through your mobile

[MasterNile]

it seems this hasn't been picked up yet.

I don't think you'll be able to use the tethering in which you wish. I think it will be mainly for iPhone to computer rather than giving an iPod Touch access to the internet through your mobile

If they enable the bluetooth on the iPod Touch you should be able to use the iPhone to tether over bluetooth to the iPod Touch.

[gooddna]

I am in the region where iphone is unavailable,
so now that 3.0 OS is out for developers, I wonder if my ipod touch can connect to internet via bluetooth... there are a lot of phones which provide internet via bluetooth here - aka tethering(what this topic is about).
if it can, I can use internet with my touch; I don't want to use my clumsy phone to surf internet... can anybody check this out?

[MasterNile]

I am in the region where iphone is unavailable,
so now that 3.0 OS is out for developers, I wonder if my ipod touch can connect to internet via bluetooth... there are a lot of phones which provide internet via bluetooth here - aka tethering(what this topic is about).
if it can, I can use internet with my touch; I don't want to use my clumsy phone to surf internet... can anybody check this out?

If bluetooth is enabled, which it seems to be according to this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=669973) thread, in theory it should work.

[azentropy]

Tethering would be nice, but not at another $30 a month. It will be interesting to see if AT&T uses the same policy as they do with their other smartphones.

[preservative]

"you hit service provider for 100000 points of bittorrent damage"

[MistaBungle]

"you hit service provider for 100000 points of bittorrent damage"

+2

[Ultimatetone]

I wonder if you can turn on and off tethering as needed.
During months I wish to travel I may want this, otherwise, they can pound sand.

I'm not sure I think $30/month is a good option, at least for me.
I would only need the tethering option 4 weeks a year total.

From my post back on Aug 29, 2008, 09:39 AM - (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=6131531#post6131531)
With the $30.00 tethering option currently offered at AT&T (for certain smartphones they offer, not iPhone),
AT&T allows you to use/not use the tethering on a 'month-to-month' basis, even with a contract in place.

Granted, I am not sure what the user needs to do before the next month's bill is generated
to let AT&T know you won't be using tethering next month (or until further notice), but it can be done.

I'm not interested in tethering for $30 extra per month..may as well subscribe to a decent 3g air card service.

From my post back on Aug 29, 2008, 09:39 AM - (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=6131531#post6131531)
On the other hand, AT&T (just for comparison) offers a 3G aircard type service, but it requires a 2 year contract,
is $60.00 a month, and does not carry the 'month-to-month' option, as I explained above.


Ultimatetone

[TEG]

I use Netshare from time to time. I find the power consumption to not be major on my iPhone EDGE. I have only HAD to use it two or three times, I've tried using it several more just to see that I could and have never had a problem. I hope that the official solution will give me the option of BT, USB, or WiFi to connect.

TEG

[Drumjim85]

Tethering would be nice, but not at another $30 a month. It will be interesting to see if AT&T uses the same policy as they do with their other smartphones.

oh they will, don't worry. The 1st iphone plan was a great deal, then the 3g came along and they decided to match it to all other data plans. They won't make any special deal just for the iPhone again.

[Ultimatetone]

Tethering would be nice, but not at another $30 a month.
It will be interesting to see if AT&T uses the same policy as they do with their other smartphones.

Let's not forget that around Nov 2008, AT&T got rid of their $20.00/month Unlimited Data option
that was available with certain prepaid/GoPhone 'plan(s).'

I was so set to play the iPhone/GoPhone 3G sim-card-swap game, too.

I'm glad I balked!

But I digress...


Ultimatetone

[suprnowa]

Anyone have a tutorial for this tethering on bleutooth

[manhattanboy]

I for one am against this. I can't even get enough bandwidth to update the weather application let alone browse the web on my computer.

D8mn AT&T!!
I wish they would fix the networks they have rather than just keep trying to crash them.

I know that some lucky areas of the country this will be great, but if you actually live where other intelligent people live, then you know all too well about AT&T's ***** network :mad:

[Eso]

I just hope that all of these companies realize that on an "unlimited" plan (even if it is a soft-cap of 5GB) a few hundred megs or even 1 or 2GB of tethered traffic isn't going to make much of a difference and not charge for light tethering. Especially if you're not going over the 5GB soft-cap anyway.

Hopefully the app works without a tethering plan and i can use ~1GB per month tethered without incurring additional charges. Or AT&T can tier their data plans and combine handset and tethered data: $30 for 5GB, $45 for 10GB and $60 for unlimited.

+1

[Mintin8]

Yahoo!! Howd he do that?

[Shin3r]

It cracks me up how many people were blaming apple and for the most part calling them liars about tethering, now that someone has found the code that they said was there all along, none of you are coming on and admitting you were wrong. Very Classy.

Has it ever occurred to any of you schmuks out there that ATT is holding up progress? or that the system would be overloaded? BTW for the idiot who said it's the same 2gb whether tethered or on iphone, you are only right in the sense that 2GB is 2GB, otherwise, the computer is going to use more bandwidth for surfing period. How about all the full size video that you may watch, or the flash videos and advertisements. Don't kid yourself, you would be on the computer more if you could use it versus the iphone. I think they know this. Who knows, maybe Apple is even fighting to get it included as part of the unlimited data to draw more consumers to the iphone. I think they are trying to benefit us in order to benefit themselves. Of course, I could be wrong, but at least I am admitting that.

[chillywilly]

Tethering would be nice, but not at another $30 a month. It will be interesting to see if AT&T uses the same policy as they do with their other smartphones.

Tethering, copy and paste and Notes sync were 3 of the main features that I wanted to see on the iPhone.

The USB tethering would be nice, but at $30 a month extra, that's a bit much for me. My current Treo 755p under Sprint has tethering included (with the same 5gb cap per month of usage). Hooks up nice to my MBP.

I would want to try the USB tethering at some point with the iPhone 3.0 to see how easy it is to connect to and how well it works.

[fithian]

I was poking fun at Apple's usual tardiness to the game, not biggin' myself up.

However, I've rethought it and yes, I would like an applause. If the average idiot like myself can do stuff a decade before Apple announces it as a Great New Thing then I think it's only right that we raise our glasses to the average idiot.

So here's to me, and whoever else just enjoys getting stuff working without the need for a ready meal marketed directly to their stomachs!

A little applause here as were. Many years with Sprint and a BT SE T106. $15 a month extra. Unlimited. Probably still works.

[amacisbetter]

I was poking fun at Apple's usual tardiness to the game, not biggin' myself up.

However, I've rethought it and yes, I would like an applause. If the average idiot like myself can do stuff a decade before Apple announces it as a Great New Thing then I think it's only right that we raise our glasses to the average idiot.

So here's to me, and whoever else just enjoys getting stuff working without the need for a ready meal marketed directly to their stomachs!

Apple has only been in the phone business for 23 months, a MUCH shorter time period than most all other companies that design and produce cell phones. :rolleyes:

Also, the tethering isn't even supossed to be accessible right now. This guy had to hack preferences to get to this option. So how exactly is Apple announcing this as a great new thing? Did you really expect Apple to include every freakin' feature known to man in their very first iPhone OS?

Considering this is ONLY the 3rd major revision to the iPhone OS, Apple is light-years ahead of other phone companies. Who knows what they'll have after 5 years time, which is still way less time than the other contenders.

[tuartboy]

I just got the carrier settings edited to enable tethering, but AT&T appears to not allow it. Bummer.

EDIT: Instructions here (http://gist.github.com/81465)

[Stephen.4]

I just got the carrier settings edited to enable tethering, but AT&T appears to not allow it. Bummer.

EDIT: Instructions here (http://gist.github.com/81465)

Credit to ericasaudan.

[tuartboy]

Credit to ericasaudan.

Yeah, the gist is under the ars account. Not claiming this.

[ernestc]

so far you couldnt because the iphone didnt allow it (unless uv jailbroken before) however rogers policy has always been that teethering is allowed. but i know a few people who have jailbroken and teether and its okay. rogers wants u teether so that u go over ur 6gb data plan.

Tethering has always been encouraged on Vodafone in NZ. But thats because our data charges are ridiculous. I pay $59 NZ ($32 USD) for 1gb per month.

If to turning this feature on and off is simply an apn setting then all you will have to do is visit a website on your iphone that allows you to download a modified apn and apply it over the air. Take unlockit.co.nz (I have no affiliation with this website) as an example of this. Initially the iphone would only work on a subscribed special iPhone data plan in NZ. This apn changer allowed you to use the standard vodafone.net.nz gateway.

The only reason I bring this up is because the guy on tqwitter said he was messing around with apn settings i believe.

[hockeyhammer]

I have an old desktop without a wireless card but it isn't close enough to my modem to run an ethernet cable (i mostly use wifi at home). But i have an ipod touch and it would be cool to plug my iTouch into the usb port and have wifi!

[michael.lauden]

for the idiot who said it's the same 2gb whether tethered or on iphone, you are only right in the sense that 2GB is 2GB, otherwise, the computer is going to use more bandwidth for surfing period. How about all the full size video that you may watch, or the flash videos and advertisements..

whooaa duude lets breathe in and out and count to ten together. when youre new to a forum you shouldn't call others idiots. regardless if i am or not

[casik]

hope he isn't from canada.... Rogers can recongize the difference and will charge for it...

[alexbates]

hope he isn't from canada.... Rogers can recongize the difference and will charge for it...

The screenshots show that he is on the O2 network, which is in Europe.

[Walter P Henson]

I was poking fun at Apple's usual tardiness to the game, not biggin' myself up.

However, I've rethought it and yes, I would like an applause. If the average idiot like myself can do stuff a decade before Apple announces it as a Great New Thing then I think it's only right that we raise our glasses to the average idiot.

So here's to me, and whoever else just enjoys getting stuff working without the need for a ready meal marketed directly to their stomachs!


*applause*

[Vazzyb]

don't we need file system access to the iphone to activate this??

[MistaBungle]

I think one of the differences that will sprout up will be how fast the iPhone is transferring data. With a full screen, mouse/trackpad/keyboard you can transmit a helluva lot more data than a single window on an iPhone.

In reality I don't see myself using this that much. When I'm in a hotel, I use the free WiFi there. I just see a benefit when I'm actually on the road and at parks/outside.

[Shin3r]

whooaa duude lets breathe in and out and count to ten together. when youre new to a forum you shouldn't call others idiots. regardless if i am or not

Okay, I agree maybe idiot was a strong word. Ultimately, I was just trying to get a stir out of you, which I did. I apologize for the way in which I approached it. And for the record, just because I do not post to the forums by no means, means that I am new to it. Been reading macrumors for years now. My intention is to get you all to sit back and reflect about what might actually be going on with Apple versus making an opinion sound like fact. There are plenty of times when I question Apples motives and there is plenty I don't agree with, however, I also realize it is my opinion and conjecture should truly be stated as such.

[Vazzyb]

I just got the carrier settings edited to enable tethering, but AT&T appears to not allow it. Bummer.

EDIT: Instructions here (http://gist.github.com/81465)


How can I follow this on windows?

[MistaBungle]

Ultimately, I was just trying to get a stir out of you, which I did.

Hahaha. Well played Mr. Bond.

[Hyuga]

hope he isn't from canada.... Rogers can recongize the difference and will charge for it...

Actually they can't notice difference from regular iphone internet use, atleast not straight. :)

I just don't understand issue with mobile broadbands in the usa. In here I know lot of people who gave up with adsl and are only using mobile broadband.. (I have one too for iphone, 2mb for 18e/month without limits). Some use basic tethering from phone, some use those usb modems, some use wlan stations what has modem...

And as far as I know there are lot of european countries with almost same situation (don't know about UK).

I don't want to sound like selffish but, why others countries have to suffer from ATT and its problems with tethering? :P

ps. I'm tired to keep my years old phone with me to swap sim into when I'm travelling :(

[Shin3r]

Apple has only been in the phone business for 23 months, a MUCH shorter time period than most all other companies that design and produce cell phones. :rolleyes:

Also, the tethering isn't even supossed to be accessible right now. This guy had to hack preferences to get to this option. So how exactly is Apple announcing this as a great new thing? Did you really expect Apple to include every freakin' feature known to man in their very first iPhone OS?

Considering this is ONLY the 3rd major revision to the iPhone OS, Apple is light-years ahead of other phone companies. Who knows what they'll have after 5 years time, which is still way less time than the other contenders.

Totally agreed. Yes, Apple could have put in all of these features and made it a pita to use just like all the other phones I have used in the past. However, they decided to focus on what THEY thought was important and the implementation of those things is almost flawless. Is it perfect? No. But consider the fact that most new phones are trying to emulate iphone now and the sales numbers that apple has. If we weren't willing to put up with the missing features until they were ready to do it THEIR way, then it would have been a complete flop. Somehow, given the statistics and the evidence, they must know what they are doing, regardless of our complaints. And to be able to do it having never made a phone OS before 3 or so years ago is a testament to their perfectionist nature, not their desire to have every feature known to man.

[EagerDragon]

It should not cost extra to use the iPhone as a modem. The computer does not have to use more bandwidth than the phone. One should be able to stay in the reasonable range of use.

If you try to download several DVD worth of data a day AT&T may have a problem with that. But to browse the net, get emails, do VPN tothe office to take care of a problem, should not be a big deal.

Since I have the iPhone I do not use my laptop as much as I used to. So it is a wash anyway.

Besides, it will be hard to explain to customers why it needs to cost more to AT&T if you surf via a phone or a MAc. In the old times when phones did not support a full feature browser, it was easier for cariers to make a case, now my safari on the iPhone uses the same bandwith as my Safari on my Mac.

If they charge extra people will be rip off as most will not use the tethering capability all the time. 30 extra to connect my computer to the net 4 hours a month is not an option for me. I have 3 iPhones 3G in my plan and they get plenty from me as it is.

[TonyHoyle]

I just got the carrier settings edited to enable tethering, but AT&T appears to not allow it. Bummer.

EDIT: Instructions here (http://gist.github.com/81465)

Hmm.. pity O2 UK don't provide a carrier bundle (O2 ireland do but I'm not sure enough what I'd have to change to use that), otherwise I'd have a go at enabling it.

In fact I now have 110 carrier bundles on my machine.. probably the settings for every carrier that the iphone supports *except* O2!

[bossxii]

It should not cost extra to use the iPhone as a modem. The computer does not have to use more bandwidth than the phone. One should be able to stay in the reasonable range of use.

If you try to download several DVD worth of data a day AT&T may have a problem with that. But to browse the net, get emails, do VPN tothe office to take care of a problem, should not be a big deal.

Since I have the iPhone I do not use my laptop as much as I used to. So it is a wash anyway.

Besides, it will be hard to explain to customers why it needs to cost more to AT&T if you surf via a phone or a MAc. In the old times when phones did not support a full feature browser, it was easier for cariers to make a case, now my safari on the iPhone uses the same bandwith as my Safari on my Mac.

If they charge extra people will be rip off as most will not use the tethering capability all the time. 30 extra to connect my computer to the net 4 hours a month is not an option for me. I have 3 iPhones 3G in my plan and they get plenty from me as it is.

You just made the perfect post to show why AT&T MUST CHARGE for tethering. The reason they don't worry about iPhone web data is because outside of youtube you won't be streaming much video. No flash so even less video to stream. Third AT&T doesn't have the idiot's running torrents over their network as you can't download to an iPhone.

Soon as you hook the iPhone up as a modem the data usage will spike 100x over. The 5 gig cap will get hit every month and then some by thousands of people that currently don't even use 100 megs a month. Casual check of the stock market or sporting scores is nothing compared to giving people full access to the web with a laptop. Hulu, Netflix, Slingbox etc... will burn 5 gigs in less than 20 hours streaming at 3g speeds.

I've run a slingbox watching live TV at work thru a Verizon 3g card and it was burning 200 megs an hour on average. This is exactly how data usage goes up once it's permited.

I'm sure you seen the articles about people getting $5,000 or $20,000 data usage bills from various carriers? Every single time it's some kid playing WoW or watching 100's of hours of steaming video. Parents don't have a clue about mobile data cards or usage amounts and the kids don't either.

Until we see full LTE technology and they have the bandwidth to support streaming video, we will see data caps of 5gigs and $60 monthly charges. The hardware maybe ready for unlimited bandwidth from the phone/laptop standpoint but the 3g network is no where able to handle the huge influx the iPhone user base would bring if tethering were all the sudden free to everyone.

[leonhard]

Hello,
I am about ready to install iPhone 3.0 (I'm a developer), but am worried about losing tethering (at least for a while). Has anyone here installed 3.0 on a phone and checked to see if Netshare still works?

Thanks!

[tkelly888]

If, as iPhone users, we're already paying atleast $60 per month for unlimited data, this should also apply whether we're using it on our iPhone or not. It is also not likely that it would be used gigabytes more than the usage on the iPhone already.

[jazz1]

I wonder if you can turn on and off tethering as needed. During months I wish to travel I may want this, otherwise, they can pound sand.

I'm new to ATT got an iPhone for myself, and then within month got two more the the family. I got slammed a little in that ATT tends to charge ahead for services to the end of the billing period. So, my guess is if you can add and drop tethering over and over, you need to watch when you do it or you would have already paid for the month if your into that billing period.

I'd pay for it when I need it otherwise.

[Drumjim85]

If, as iPhone users, we're already paying atleast $60 per month for unlimited data, this should also apply whether we're using it on our iPhone or not. It is also not likely that it would be used gigabytes more than the usage on the iPhone already.

we're only paying $30 for unlimited data. just like every other phone.

[pake]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5H11 Safari/525.20)

I'm sure that most carriers around the world, specially those that are offering limited data plans will want tethering enabled, since customers will use more data and may end paying extra or purchasing a plan with a higher limit.

[MistaBungle]

edit: Redundant post.

[akac]

I tether my Rogers iPhone with Netshare. No need to jailbreak.

Netshare worked for me for Safari, but that's it. No email (most important) or chat. How did you get that working?

[Dagless]

That's going to be fantastic. If my siblings are hammering the broadband connection I could just plug in my iPhone and carry on teh internets.

This is all getting very awesome.

[NeoMayhem]

The tethering appears to "shift" the home icons once the top portion changes to blue and Internet Tethering shows up. They seem to be displaced.

Again, beta, I know. But stating observations.

edit: Upon further investigation, it seems that only rows 1,2,3 are modified. Row 4 and Dock are left alone. I kind of like it and think the smooth animation could be neat.

Isnt that exactly how it works on 2.x while you are in a call?

[DiamondGCoupe]

SO far I love OS3 and this would make the iPhone even more superior to the competition.

[kappaknight]

Isnt that exactly how it works on 2.x while you are in a call?

ROFL - that's exactly what I thought too. As much as I like Apple, it's really not necessary to find every little thing they do as being cool.

[automan98]

Great feature to finally include. Looks much easier than tethering with a Blackberry.

[babyj]

Actually they can't notice difference from regular iphone internet use, atleast not straight. :)

I just don't understand issue with mobile broadbands in the usa. In here I know lot of people who gave up with adsl and are only using mobile broadband.. (I have one too for iphone, 2mb for 18e/month without limits). Some use basic tethering from phone, some use those usb modems, some use wlan stations what has modem...

And as far as I know there are lot of european countries with almost same situation (don't know about UK).

Not sure that mobile broadband is that popular in the UK, but it ain't that difficult to find free Wifi (all of our McDonalds have it for example). Though it is pretty cheap, my cable company charges £5 a month for 1Gb through a 3G dongle which doesn't seem too bad.

Thing is, I just don't have any real need for mobile broadband most of the time and when I do I'll just go somewhere with free Wifi instead. Even if they do offer tethering I can't see me using it much, lugging the laptop around is a pain and not normally necessary.

But it will be good if they offer it. I can't see any reason for them to charge more for it provided you stay within the limits of their definition of unlimited. I think O2 UK is 1Gb a month on the iPhone.

[bizzaregood]

So does ATT just not allow it to work following those instructions or will it not work at all if you have att, i just tyred (i have att) it didnt work but that dosent mean i even did it right or not

[Merlyn3D]

I just got the carrier settings edited to enable tethering, but AT&T appears to not allow it. Bummer.

EDIT: Instructions here (http://gist.github.com/81465)

More than likely AT&T doesn't know about it just yet. If you have the right settings, it'll work, those instructions are just incorrect.

[bizzaregood]

More than likely AT&T doesn't know about it just yet. If you have the right settings, it'll work, those instructions are just incorrect.

Can anyone figure out the settings for ATT?

[snowleopard48]

I have been waiting for something like this to happen for years! :)

[eastercat]

How would they charge for use of it if it is already included in the OS on the phone? Would ATT somehow be able to tell that you were tethering to your computer rather than surfing the net in your phone's browser? Or would they simply rely on you going over your "unlimited data" cap of 5 GBs?
If the screen shots are any indication, you have to activate tethering on the phone.
If you don't have a data plan, they'll probably charge you by either KB or MB (probably KB, knowing AT&T). It's no different from the way they charge you for individual text messages when you don't have a text plan.
By the way, it is much easier to go over the 5 GB when you're on your computer. Between video, d/l, etc., you can easily overload AT&T's pitiful network in no time flat. Read bossxii's post about why we're likely to never get free tethering.
There's $30 good reasons why I was never interested in tethering in the first place.

[gnasher729]

How would they charge for use of it if it is already included in the OS on the phone? Would ATT somehow be able to tell that you were tethering to your computer rather than surfing the net in your phone's browser? Or would they simply rely on you going over your "unlimited data" cap of 5 GBs?

When you are on a 5 GB plan, you are not actually paying for 5 GB per month. You are paying for the average use of people on this plan, which is likely 1 GB per month, and that is what you are charged for.

The phone company will definitely know whether your net access is for the iPhone itself or for tethering. The iPhone knows, therefore the phone company knows. And with tethering, people can very easily go way beyond what the normal average use is. If they just relied on your 5 GB limit, then people using tethering would suddenly use five times more data than the amount the phone company used in their cost calculation.

A great solution would be free light tethering (say 100 MB per month), and being able to buy a tethering allowance from the iPhone at any time.

That's going to be fantastic. If my siblings are hammering the broadband connection I could just plug in my iPhone and carry on teh internets.

This is all getting very awesome.

The cost of supplying one GB of data through 3G is ten times higher or more than through your phone line. So dream on. You will either get a significant monthly cost for limited GB, or you will get a message every two hours "Would you like to pay another $9.99 for the next GB of data? "

So is it possible to currently get an iPhone running the 3.0 beta working with tethering on the AT&T network? (If not, then the steps below might be pointless) This developer looks like he is on the O2 network so I am just wondering if it works the same way in the US.

Here's my idea to get around having to pay an extra $30 a month:
1) Join the Apple developer team for $100 and get the 3.0 beta running
2) Figure out how to get tethering working just like this guy has it running (I bet someone will have figured out within a week and steps will be circulating on the Internet shortly after)
3) Use tethering for no extra charge on you iPhone and never upgrade to the regular 3.0 version when it comes out in the summer. (so AT&T won't make you pay)

I hope this could be a possibility for anyone that wants tethering!

You forgot one step: Read your agreement with Apple and your agreement with AT&T very, very careful before you try this. Imagine you do this and AT&T has something in their terms that allows them charging you $1 per MB of tethered data.

[leonhard]

Hello,
I am about ready to install iPhone 3.0 (I'm a developer), but am worried about losing tethering (at least for a while). Has anyone here installed 3.0 on a phone and checked to see if Netshare still works?

Thanks!

Just to answer my own question: Yes. it works. This is being posted through NetShare presently.

[Sambo110]

Will this feature be available on the iPod Touch? I can connect via Airport, but will still be handy to haev.

[p-J]

Any howto on how to enable MMS using this method?

[Timmeh]

For those in the uk I spent last night with erica sadun and a few others and created an IPCC carrier bundle update file for 02 uk with MMS and tethering.

https://twitter.com/timmeh/status/1351833678

To install option click update in itunes and choose the IPPC file, then reboot the phone. (3.0 only)

[Bye Bye Baby]

Great news, but it will be interesting how much it costs. Especially for those on o2 in the UK. Data can be cheaper here than elsewhere.

[p-J]

I'm trying to get this workin on my iPhone 3G T-Mobile NL running 3.0
This is the carrier.plist that i could find

http://i41.tinypic.com/314a3qr.png

As you can see in the apns sections there is no such thing as wap listed...
I've tried it by adding this
apn = internet
password = password
username = iphone

And adding the type-mask -2 to the other internet apn without the username and password.
But this does not work...
I did everything like said in the howto, but i'mm not sure about this part

(b) In the wap dictionary (mine is wap.cingular, sts's was wap.dol.ie), add a new pair. Do not edit the password or username:
type-mask = (NUMBER) -2


Also for MMS, should i be adding these values?


AllowMMSCEditing Boolean Yes
AllowMMSEditing Boolean Yes

mms_proxy 10.10.10.11
mms_proxy_port 8080
mmsc http://t-mobilemms:8080

Does anyone know what i should do to make tethering work? and maybe even MMS?

Thanks!

[Timmeh]

You add the type mask to the APN setting for the internet ;) this enables the tethering, its what we did for o2.

[iphones4evry1]

I hope AT&T offers a "pay as you go" feature with the tethering. Much like text messages, for those that want to purchase an unlimited plan, they can, but for most of us that will only use the tethering once in a while, AT&T should allow us a pay-as-you-go feature. Maybe ten cents a minute (which would be one dollar for ten minutes) or something like that. Most people are not going to use this feature that much. Most people will only use it occasionally.

[Vazzyb]

For those in the uk I spent last night with erica sadun and a few others and created an IPCC carrier bundle update file for 02 uk with MMS and tethering.

https://twitter.com/timmeh/status/1351833678

To install option click update in itunes and choose the IPPC file, then reboot the phone. (3.0 only)

Im afraid your file doesn't work. When I click on 'Internet Tethering' after loading your bundle file, it comes up with a message "Enable tethering on your account Contact O2..."

Is there something else that needs to be done?

[Vazzyb]

For those in the uk I spent last night with erica sadun and a few others and created an IPCC carrier bundle update file for 02 uk with MMS and tethering.

https://twitter.com/timmeh/status/1351833678

To install option click update in itunes and choose the IPPC file, then reboot the phone. (3.0 only)

I also tried sending an MMS - that doesn't work either.

Sorry lol - maybe its because im on pay as you go?

[maverick808]

Works perfectly for me over USB. When I try over Bluetooth it just keeps saying "Maximum connections reached" when I click to connect to the iPhone. Don't care though, I always carry the USB cable with me anyway so it's fine.

[maverick808]

I also tried sending an MMS - that doesn't work either.

Sorry lol - maybe its because im on pay as you go?

I had this... turn tethering off and back on again and it'll work. If it doesn't a reboot of the phone should get it going.

[Saladinos]

Im afraid your file doesn't work. When I click on 'Internet Tethering' after loading your bundle file, it comes up with a message "Enable tethering on your account Contact O2..."

Is there something else that needs to be done?

Tethering does work, I just tried it. Bar pulses blue, looks awesome. Did it over USB, very easy to set up.

MMS doesn't work, just the same errors everyone's been getting.

[Vazzyb]

I had this... turn tethering off and back on again and it'll work. If it doesn't a reboot of the phone should get it going.

how do I turn it back off and on? Currently when I click on it, I just get that error message.

(You had the o2 message, right?)

[maverick808]

how do I turn it back off and on? Currently when I click on it, I just get that error message.

(You had the o2 message, right?)

Yes I had the O2 message. Then I turned BT off and back on, then exited settings, then when I went back in and tried it just turned on.

[Vazzyb]

Yes I had the O2 message. Then I turned BT off and back on, then exited settings, then when I went back in and tried it just turned on.

are you on pay as you go?
so you...

press the button, got the message
turned bluetooth off? and then turned it on again
exited settings
and came back in to turn on thethering and it worked lol

ahh must be something im doing wrong

[maverick808]

are you on pay as you go?

Nope, contract.

[Vazzyb]

Yeah it must be that it isn't activated on PAYG.

[schimanke]

Does anybody have a carrier bundle for T-Mobile Germany? I couldn't find one. :(

[cwoloszynski]

Ok, on my account, I don't even have a 'Library/iTunes/iPhone Carrier Support' folder. Do I need to create one? According to spotlight, I don't have one anywhere on my machine....

Help!

[suprnowa]

What a using application to explorer iphone 3G on 3.0 soft.My computer is OSX.

[thecritix]

erm..

this is only for 3.0, I don't have 3.0 i'm signed up to the developer programme but have not payed anything?

I've just changed my ippc file but if I don't have 3.0 it's not going to work is it..

Anyway of getting 3.0 other than paying..?

Is it stable?

Nick

[p-J]

I got tethering working, but when i try to use bluetooth on my macbook its saying out of maxium number of supported network connections.
But on my hackintosh it works ok with bluetooh...

Some proof:

http://i41.tinypic.com/b50ahs.png
http://i40.tinypic.com/qstu83.png

[TonyHoyle]

Not sure that mobile broadband is that popular in the UK, but it ain't that difficult to find free Wifi (all of our McDonalds have it for example). Though it is pretty cheap, my cable company charges £5 a month for 1Gb through a 3G dongle which doesn't seem too bad.


Not all mcdonalds have free wifi - I'd say about half do, and where they do, it often doesn't work (of the 2 mcdonalds where I live, one doesn't have wifi at all and one has a broken wifi that won't go past the login page)... Everyone else charges exhorbitant hourly rates (although there's a nice cafe in the centre of Manchester that has Free Wifi).

I have a £5/mo dongle with Three that I use all the time. Everywhere I go I see laptops with dongles sticking out of them - and the stores are going nuts offering free laptops with mobile broadband to all the students, so it's pretty popular.

If O2 wanted to charge for tethering it would have to compete with that, otherwise few people would pay it. OTOH no other phone has a charge for such things. There's the T&C that say you can't use it for the usual things (VOIP, P2P, etc.) but that's standard.

[rbieling]

[QUOTE=p-J;7306005]I got tethering working,

Same problem as you J.D., but what did you change to get it to work?

[edit]
Stupid me, I can't read
It's -2, not 2. Forgot the minus.
Its working now, over BT as well. Next is reading up on ISP agreement.

[kornyboy]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5H11 Safari/525.20)

I wonder if the carriers are going to start charging for this. My guess is that normal Internet rates will apply.

[dopeytree]

People don't forget about the wifi deals included with the phone like O2 (uk) offer access to the cloud and a few other major wifi distributors...

I just hope they are more lenient about bandwidth on the wifi.

We all pay for unlimited internet so i think it'd be nice if O2 open this up in the summer even if they do decide to put a cap on. Or they should say give you 10gig tethering limit a month and people can purchase extra after that for the heavy users..

[Vazzyb]

I don't know what all the fuss is about...

in a few months after the release of 3.0, the wonderful dev team will have figured out how to use tethering on iphone without network approvel.

The only issue is whether a. they can tell if we're doing it and b. how much bandwidth we can get away with.

I mean, unless you want to pay for it - then I guess its important.

[cybersystem]

does anyone have a carrier file for t-mobile germany?

[schimanke]

That's what I'm looking for as well...

[alexbates]

If you are smart enough to make a carrier bundle, please make one. I'm sure there are many people on here who would pay to get the file, especially for AT&T.

[p-J]

http://www.trejan.com/projects/ipod/phobos.html

That site has most of the ipcc files, but no german...
I think it has to be build from scratch just like the O2-UK one...

[schimanke]

There is a custom carrier bundle creator:

http://www.volkspost.info/carrierbundle_pwn2/

Does anybody know how to correctly build a german T-Mobile bundle with that?

[cybersystem]

well does anyone still have a jailbroken iphone running 2.2.1 with t-mobile germany? there should be a TMobile_Germany.bundle in /System/Library/Carrier Bundles/ then..

[Timmeh]

People you cannot just download the bundle instal and expect it to work. You have to add the missing keys/pairs there is enough info on Twitter.com/timmeh and twitter.com/ericasadun to make your own

[schimanke]

Yeah, I've seen you on Twitter. But it would be easier to have an official bundle which we can modify than to build one from scratch...

[cybersystem]

People you cannot just download the bundle instal and expect it to work. You have to add the missing keys/pairs there is enough info on Twitter.com/timmeh and twitter.com/ericasadun to make your own

yeah, but i want the TMobile_Germany.bundle so that i dont have to write everything from scratch..

[ipoppy]

I just hope that all of these companies realize that on an "unlimited" plan (even if it is a soft-cap of 5GB) a few hundred megs or even 1 or 2GB of tethered traffic isn't going to make much of a difference and not charge for light tethering. Especially if you're not going over the 5GB soft-cap anyway.

Hopefully the app works without a tethering plan and i can use ~1GB per month tethered without incurring additional charges. Or AT&T can tier their data plans and combine handset and tethered data: $30 for 5GB, $45 for 10GB and $60 for unlimited.

They have realized that already but they are drove by greed like always. You will pay for 5gb data and use 1gb. They are winners again unfortunately.

[p-J]

I made a TMobile_de.ipcc
I also enable thether, but i can't test this since i got a dutch iphone myself
So try this at your own risk...

I got the carrier.plist from here

http://synapps.de/files/carrier.plist_.txt

And used other files from my own TMobile_nl.ipcc...

[schimanke]

Thanks p-j! I'll take a look at it and let you know...

[andygabriel]

I can see there're a lot of developers on this forum. Did u guys see todo sync on the iphone 3.0?

I hope it's there!!

[jroen]

p-J, what exactly did you change in the dutch t-mobile carrier plist? I'm editing it right now, and I got an extra "Data cellular settings" on the Settings > General > Network in my iPhone.

[p-J]

@jroen

I only changed this

http://i44.tinypic.com/317ba00.png

And added the AllowEDGEEditing in the root...
I'm also getting "Data cellular settings"
But further down i got the "Internet Tethering".

Edit: Like tvdn mentioned below, you dont have to add the Item 1 dictionary, just use the internet apn already in there...

[tvdn]

p-J,

Did you get MMS working on T-Mobile NL? I am also with T-Mobile NL, and I was just wondering if you managed to get it working. I can compose MMS messages, but cannot send them...

Tethering works fine though!

-edit- BTW, you don't have to create a new dictonary under apn's. Just add the "type-mask=-2" to the current apn for internet.

[p-J]

tvdn,

I just tried MMS, but it's hanging at Sending...
So i think i got the same problem as you...
Which settings did you use?

[TonyHoyle]

Bluetooth profile works fine... I don't see A2DP on the services though.

It's PAN not DUN so that rules out connecting it to the tomtom :( - OTOH I'm half convinced already it's worth porting pand to the tomtom...

[schimanke]

The German bundle from p-j is a good start. I did not get it working yet but I think I'm getting closer...

[iPhoneJB]

I got tethering to work over AT&T, check this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=7305784&posted=1#post7305784) and this (http://www.joachimbean.com/Computer_Inventory/News/Entries/2009/3/19_Tethering_on_iPhone_OS_3.0_over_AT%26T.html) out. This message is being posted by a AT&T iPhone 3G tethered to a PowerBook G4

[tvdn]

p-J,

Here are the MMS settings i used so far:

<key>AllowMMSCEditing</key>
<true/>
<key>AllowMMSEditing</key>
<true/>
<key>mms_proxy</key>
<string>10.10.10.11</string>
<key>mms_proxy_port</key>
<string>8080</string>
<key>mmsc</key>
<string>http://t-mobilemms</string>

[p-J]

Oke thanks, im using the same, expect i also got this apn added...

<dict>
<key>apn</key>
<string>mms</string>
<key>password</key>
<string>tmobilemms</string>
<key>username</key>
<string>tmobilemms</string>
</dict>

No luck yet :(

Edit:

This are the settings as they are on the website...
Notice the strange proxy? I've tried that proxy too now but still the same.

Mms-verbindingsinstellingen voor WAP 2.0
Accountnaam: T-Mobile MMS
APN: mms
Gebruikersnaam: tmobilemms
Wachtwoord: tmobilemms
Aanmeldverzoek: nee
Verificatie: PAP
IP-adres: dynamisch
Primair DNS-adres: 0.0.0.0

Mms-berichtinstellingen
Profielnaam: T-Mobile MMS
Account: T-Mobile MMS
Serveradres: http://t-mobilemms/
Proxy gebruiken: ja
Proxyadres: 010.010.010.011
Proxypoort: 8080
Beveiliging: uit
Sessie modus: permanent

[schimanke]

Guys, I've got MMS working on my iPhone 3G in Germany!!! Well at least I can compose MMS messages (add pictures, ...). Sending is not possible by now.

[suprnowa]

Please give me application to explorer my iPhone 3G with 3.0.
My system is OSX

[cybersystem]

hm i'm only getting the "Data cellular settings" option, but no tethering option.. any ideas?

[schimanke]

@cybersystem: I have enabled MMS. Just doing some finetuning on my .ipcc file. I'll let you know when I'm done. No tethering either on my phone yet.

[Holle]

Guys, I've got MMS working on my iPhone 3G in Germany!!! Well at least I can compose MMS messages (add pictures, ...). Sending is not possible by now.
Cool can you plz post the carrier .ipss ?
many thxxxxx

[cybersystem]

just enabled or actually able to send mms? times out for me..

[schimanke]

Just enabled. Sending is not possible with this beta.

[cybersystem]

are you sure about that?
got tethering enabled btw.

[schimanke]

Yes I am. This info is directly from Apple.
What did you do to get tethering enabled?

[cybersystem]

there we go.. T-Mobile Germany, tethering enabled and MMS enabled, including sending.. i knew it worked :)

will upload the ipcc...

[schimanke]

You sent an MMS??? I am pretty much impressed!!!
Let me see that .ipcc please!

[cybersystem]

http://www.cybersystem.de/TMobile_Germany.ipcc

use at your own risk! i dont take responsibility if you get a high bill or anything..

edit: updated the ipcc again.. the second apn was not even needed..

[p-J]

http://www.cybersystem.de/TMobile_Germany.ipcc

use at your own risk! i dont take responsibility if you get a high bill or anything..

edit: updated the ipcc again.. the second apn was not even needed..

What did you change to make it send MMS?
Thanks!

[schimanke]

Well, tethering is working! MMS composing as well! But I still cannot send MMS... Did you really send it? In my case there is a red exclamation mark next to the pic saying that the message was not sent... :(

[cybersystem]

okay i'm confused right now..
i sent myself a mms twice and they immediately came back.. then i changed some stuff and it didnt work anymore, restored the "working" ipcc and now mms doesnt work anymore..

[p-J]

Why can't i use USB tethering on my macbook?
I turned it on but it doesnt show in the Network list devices...?

[fedepo]

I got tethering working on Vodafone IT and MMS composing.

I still can't send MMS but I think it's because I didn't find a way to set the APN to be used for sending them. (mmsc, mms_proxy correctly set already)

Anyone knows how to set the APN for MMS service?

[cybersystem]

okay so, i dont get it working anymore.. but what i have figured out,
when sending mms worked, i couldnt browse the web over the iphone anymore.. when i can browse the web, i cant send mms..

i think the problem is that i can't tell it to use a special apn for sending mms and another apn for internet.. or at least i dont know how..

does anyone know what that "type-mask" option actually does?

[DarlokDC]

I also don't have that folder. Tried enabling hidden files in finder, navigating via Terminal, everything, but there is no iPhone Carrier Support folder on my Mac anywhere. Am with Fido in Canada, if that makes a difference.

Any help would be appreciated.

[p-J]

@DarlokDC,

The folder is not installed by default, it will be only there when you accepted to update youre carrier settings when asked in iTunes, which will not happen often...
I tried searching for a .ipcc file for you're carrier but i can't find one.
Maybe if youre able to access a jailbroken iPhone on Fido over SSH you could get the file...

[boyced]

press the button, got the message
turned bluetooth off? and then turned it on again
exited settings
and came back in to turn on thethering and it worked lol

ahh must be something im doing wrong


so i turn on internet tethering, asked about turning on bluetooth, which i cancel as i'm using usb?

then connect to pc or mac, ?

[steverosebush]

To get a carrier bundle, simply get them from the Apple servers:


macbook-pro:Desktop steve$ curl -s -L http://phobos.apple.com/version | grep -i carrier
</dict><key>MobileDeviceCarrierBundles</key>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-4732.20090203.gj3ef/ATT_US.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5430.20080909.5jhioy/BhartiAirtel_in.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5758.20081125.2pyd9/Chunghwa_tw.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-4907.20080819.6453e/Claro_ar.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5596.20080929.1c0Oi/Claro_br.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5412.20080909.Jgk9t/Claro_cl.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-4911.20081125.pJ5tG/Claro_do.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-4912.20080819.Ccawv/Porta_ec.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-4913.20080819.0plmy/Claro_gt.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5416.20081014.BhY6T/Claro_hn.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5704.20081014.CfI9u/Claro_jm.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-4916.20080909.g934h/Claro_ni.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-4917.20080819.liko8/Claro_pe.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-4918.20080819.p034r/Claro_py.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5284.20080819.bhy78/Claro_sv.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-4920.20080819.Cde3W/Claro_uy.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5413.20080909.6tyu6/Comcel_co.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5400.20080909.fji30/EMT_ee.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5833.20081208.qv27D/Etisalat_ae.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5405.20080909.Qase0/Globe_ph.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5921.20090121.ro490/Hutchison_hk.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5922.20090121.o35ge/Hutchison_mo.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-4933.20081125.6yGUF/KTF_kr.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5759.20081125.pQ5SM/LuxGSM_lu.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-4894.20080909.44rrr/LMT_lv.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-6079.20090313.Lkr5t/Maxis_my.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5590.20080929.q1e3C/MegaFon_ru.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5962.20090203.98ijG/mobily_sa.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5757.20021029.swe9i/mobinil_eg.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5392.20081111.Fer45/Mobistar_be.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5691.20081125.mPGMw/movistar_ar.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5958.20090203.IIUtg/movistar_cl.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5297.20080819.Pj39f/movistar_co.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5293.20080819.V34Gr/movistar_ec.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5441.20080909.2kdo4/Telefonica_es.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5685.20081111.Ploik/movistar_gt.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5959.20090203.cxp8I/movistar_ni.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5686.20081029.Gbh7y/movistar_pa.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5445.20080909.bj934/movistar_pe.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5687.20081111.BhYt6/movistar_sv.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5443.20080909.Dejfr/movistar_uy.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5700.20090203.Mblt5/movistar_ve.ipcc</string>
<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5696.20081111.vgrt5/MTS_ru.ipcc</string>
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<string>http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/CarrierBundles/061-5447.20080909.BjTY/O2_cz.ipcc</string>
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macbook-pro:Desktop steve$



Simply download the appropriate carrier file for your provider, to install the carrier update you can from iTunes simply hold down the Option key (on a Mac, I forget the key for Windows, it's the same key to select a firmware file manually) and click Check for Update. Choose the .ipcc file and it will update the carrier settings.

[DarlokDC]

@p-J

Cheers, thanks for the update. I was beginning to suspect something like that, and started looking for a way to do a manual reinstall of the current version of the carrier ipcc, so that I could trick it into making the folder, but I'll see if I can get my hands on a jailbroken one. Thanks again!

[fedepo]

UPDATE:

I finally sent an MMS!
I changed my apn to the apn used for MMS and it works. [vodafone IT]
Now I just have to find a way to use different APNs according to the service (so to have both internet and mms working)

[p-J]

@DarlokDC,

Luckyy,
I found a carrier plist for Fido, CA :)
Hope it helps!

[DarlokDC]

@p-J

Awesome!! Thanks a lot, I'll let you know how it goes.

[cybersystem]

UPDATE:

I finally sent an MMS!
I changed my apn to the apn used for MMS and it works. [vodafone IT]
Now I just have to find a way to use different APNs according to the service (so to have both internet and mms working)
yeah, thats how it worked for me too..
if you figure something out let me know :)

[Holle]

http://www.cybersystem.de/TMobile_Germany.ipcc

use at your own risk! i dont take responsibility if you get a high bill or anything..

edit: updated the ipcc again.. the second apn was not even needed..

file is gone... can you upload it again plz
thxxx

[fedepo]

@cybersystem: currently I'm trying randomly :( to change the type-mask (-3 and -4 don't work....)

[Phooto]

This is O2 UK and its only in the UK and not the US
Not even in the UK, it was Ireland.

[steverosebush]

Help!

After fooling around trying to get MMS to work I am now getting the following error:

Thu Mar 19 17:04:57 unknown CommCenter[33] <Notice>: Error (61) activating PDP context 0 that supports types
0: kGprsPdpAuthenticationFailure

(opening Safari, etc it gives the error Could not activate cellular data network: PDP authentication failure. I *do* have a 3G icon)

My 3G won't connect anymore on my iPhone, I restored the original ipcc file and also reset the network settings through Settings -> Reset.

I'm on T-Mobile NL, is anyone else having problems getting data service? Or did I possibly get myself flagged at T-Mobile because of failed attempts to connect or something??

[p-J]

Help!

After fooling around trying to get MMS to work I am now getting the following error:

Thu Mar 19 17:04:57 unknown CommCenter[33] <Notice>: Error (61) activating PDP context 0 that supports types
0: kGprsPdpAuthenticationFailure

(opening Safari, etc it gives the error Could not activate cellular data network: PDP authentication failure. I *do* have a 3G icon)

My 3G won't connect anymore on my iPhone, I restored the original ipcc file and also reset the network settings through Settings -> Reset.

I'm on T-Mobile NL, is anyone else having problems getting data service? Or did I possibly get myself flagged at T-Mobile because of failed attempts to connect or something??
I have the exact same problem, also on T-Mobile NL
Restoring my iPhone now too 3.0 again...

Edit:

DID NOT Work, can't connect to internet anymore!
I think we need to be more carefull with these kind of things...

[steverosebush]

I have the exact same problem, also on T-Mobile NL
Restoring my iPhone now too 3.0 again...

Hey p-J :]

That's sort of comforting, knowing I'm not alone.. Maybe we screwed up T-Mobile's servers. :D

[Holle]

could someone from the German hackers upload a working TMobile_de.ipcc.
many many thxxx
the last one from cybersystem is gone....

[p-J]

Reupload of TMobile Germany...

[tvdn]

steverosebush, p-J

Same message here with T-Mobile NL...

[scjgreen]

I've got MMS working on O2-UK but i can't get Tethering working via either Bluetooth or USB

[p-J]

steverosebush, p-J

Same message here with T-Mobile NL...

My mother, sister and her friend are all gettin the messages.
And they did not change anything on there devices, all running the latest official firmwares, so its not us. But we may have taken it down :o

And it's also not possible to login anymore;
"Wegens gepland onderhoud is het tijdelijk niet mogelijk om in te loggen in My T-Mobile"

[tvdn]

My mother, sister and her friend are all gettin the messages.
And they did not change anything on there devices, all running the latest official firmwares, so its not us. But we may have taken it down :o

And it's also not possible to login anymore;
"Wegens gepland onderhoud is het tijdelijk niet mogelijk om in te loggen in My T-Mobile"

Phew, glad to hear that... I was scared that maybe they banned us from the network or something... :p

[cybersystem]

file is gone... can you upload it again plz
thxxx

it's up again, but only tethering is working and the MMS UI is there, but sending MMS does NOT work yet..

[Holle]

Reupload of TMobile Germany...
many thxxx got it workin... :-)))

[island]

AT&T - USA (For tethering)

Edited, tested and working, Fairfield count - CT/NY area.

[steverosebush]

Looks like data service for T-Mobile NL has been restored, I'm wary to try again. :p

[davidrules04]

I've got MMS working on O2-UK but i can't get Tethering working via either Bluetooth or USB

How did you get mms working? it wont work on my 3.0 :( thank you much appreciated :D

[p-J]

Looks like data service for T-Mobile NL has been restored, I'm wary to try again. :p

Not here?

[suprnowa]

I need help.
Please tell me waht application using to Navigate to ~/Library/iTunes/iPhone Carrier?

[tvdn]

I need help.
Please tell me waht application using to Navigate to ~/Library/iTunes/iPhone Carrier?

Use the terminal of Mac OS X.

Not here?

It was okay a few minutes ago, but now it's down again :(

[p-J]

T-Mobile NL Network is up again :)

Edit:

This is how to make USB Tethering working, not taking credits...

This is how I have achieved tethering with iphone via USB.

PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ENABLED TETHERING WITH A CUSTOM IPCC
*more info on that here - http://twitter.com/timmeh/status/1351833678 and here - http://www.tuaw.com/2009/03/19/dept-of-that-was-awfully-quick-eager-devs-enable-tethering-o/

• Connect 3.0 iphone to mac via USB.
• Enable tethering via USB.
• In network click the add service button (little button with a plus bottom of the list) prefs
• Choose the ethernet connection of your iphone (often the highest en, on my machine (imac) it was en4)

You should now be able to browse the net tethered to you iphone.

[bizzaregood]

T-Mobile NL Network is up again :)

Edit:

This is how to make USB Tethering working, not taking credits...

Not getting same results, i have bluetooth working i with no sign of MMS at all, but usb is still not working..

[DarlokDC]

Okay, I've managed to create a custom bundle file for Fido customers that should enable tethering, but I had to create it using a Fido info.plist file and the rest of a Rogers bundle (customized, obviously). Since I don't have the original Fido_ca.ipcc file, I'm hesitant to test it out, in case I can't revert. Anyone know how easy it is to undo an update should I try it?

[flippin360]

I'm on Fido network here in Canada and I modified the O2 UK carrier bundle that was posted here. So the tethering menu shows up but when I click on it it says "To enable tethering on this account, contact fido"

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5896/img0159.png

3G works in Safari and other programs, MMS shows up in text messaging but gives an error when I try to send it. I attached the bundle I used if anyone can fix it up.

Edit:
DarlokDC, I don't mind testing it because if it does not work I'll just use mine again since it works for everything else like data, text and making calls.

[suprnowa]

Please give me "Orange_Pl.ipcc" version 5.0 with tethering


Best regard's

[DarlokDC]

@flippin360

Hey, thanks for the sample code. I incorporated some of your work with some of my own. Let me know if this gets things running for you. I had different info about Fido's MMS information, and a different approach to the tethering APN.

Cheers!