View Full Version : The only attention I/we get from girls is ones that have kids.
benlangdon
Mar 19, 2009, 03:03 AM
Literally the only kind of girls we have been getting attention from are ones with kids.
seriously.
my friends and i are all studying things like engineering (my major) and medical things. so its not like there are many girls on this part of campus and we are all dying here in need of some women. but all the attention were getting back is from girls that have had a kid. like literally, all of them.
i dunno what to do.
i mean im pretty desperate and im pretty sure my friends are on the same level. i mean heck im making a thread about it. its not like we are old, heck im 21, my other friends are 19, 20, 24, 21, and 21
why can't i just meet normal (i.e. no kids) girls?
calculus
Mar 19, 2009, 03:11 AM
interesting definition of 'normal'...
sushi
Mar 19, 2009, 03:14 AM
Literally the only kind of girls we have been getting attention from are ones with kids.
If this is not what you are interested in, then you need to change your venue and look elsewhere.
ceezy3000
Mar 19, 2009, 03:19 AM
haha i think its cus girls with kids are a bit more, mhm how do i put this lightly?
blackfox
Mar 19, 2009, 03:58 AM
You could take such ( or indeed any) interest as a compliment.
neonblue2
Mar 19, 2009, 04:22 AM
So what's wrong? Kids are fun!
Lau
Mar 19, 2009, 05:01 AM
haha i think its cus girls with kids are a bit more, mhm how do i put this lightly?
...more likely, statistically, to have given birth?
benlangdon, you do realise that somewhere, in a cafe near you, there are a group of girls saying "Why are there no real men round here? All the men I ever seem to talk to turn out to be engineering student-boys with no experience of life.", right? ;)
jodelli
Mar 19, 2009, 05:27 AM
Hey, give it a shot. Or you could do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugk37TvIR8E
iBlue
Mar 19, 2009, 05:41 AM
Well I hope for their sake you continue to avoid them if you think so lowly of them for it.
Peterkro
Mar 19, 2009, 05:45 AM
If they have children they're pretty much by definition women and not girls.
geekgirl
Mar 19, 2009, 09:44 AM
Another way to look at this is to be flattered. You're pretty young still, so I can understand why you might feel uncomfortable.
Many women who are single moms are not the stereotypical "loose women" you'd assume them to be. Having a child does mature a person, and can help a girl learn what is really important to look for in a man. Take the time to get to know some of these women, and you might be surprised. I'm not saying they are all like this, some are probably out for the whole "future earnings" thing, but you might be surprised.
No1451
Mar 19, 2009, 10:00 AM
Well I hope for their sake you continue to avoid them if you think so lowly of them for it.
I don't think he thinks badly of them for it, just maybe he doesn't want to be possibly dating someone with that sort of responsibility?
raggedjimmi
Mar 19, 2009, 10:07 AM
I don't think he thinks badly of them for it, just maybe he doesn't want to be possibly dating someone with that sort of responsibility?
That's what I got too.
All I can suggest is looking elsewhere. I'm 23 myself and have been in a 6 year relationship, but kids are just something we don't want for a very long time.
Consultant
Mar 19, 2009, 10:10 AM
Get prepared to stay a virgin? =p
% of virgin by student major
http://www.geekologie.com/2009/03/percent_of_student_virgins_per.php
CalPoly10
Mar 19, 2009, 10:12 AM
My friend, I am an engineering major as well, with most all of my friends in the engineering field. Just because you are an engineer, doesn't mean you can't assosciate with the fine women in Communications, Art, etc.
Go out, join some clubs that are outside of engineering. Stuff that is fun. Meet women in your downtown area.
Just be funny and confident, and they'll come your way.
synth3tik
Mar 19, 2009, 10:14 AM
The last relationship I was in that involved a kid was great. This girl was a child prodigy. She was a lot of fun, and really really smart. At age 7 she had finished the Harry Potter series, and was playing cello at a middle school level. It was just great.
I tend to stay away from the ones that are looking for a "baby daddy", another way to put it is that I do not do internet dating. Ha. I will say that dating someone with a kid does bring on a totally new element. You end up having to develop two relationships at the same time. Also kids taje break ups harder then we do.
barkmonster
Mar 19, 2009, 10:19 AM
I don't blame you if don't want to get yourself stuck in a "pot noodle family. Just add dad" situation. Your 20s are for enjoying yourself, not playing dad to some kid that's not your problem.
Just wait till your late 20s and every relationship your surrounded with is down to people introducing their spare friends to each other. I only know 3 couples out of dozens who have actually got married, only 1 of those couple's actually has a kid and that's because his wife has MS so they've had a child early on because it won't be possible later.
It's a pain when girls have kids.
I haven't being out with anyone in 4 years now, my ex had a 2 year old girl.
I couldn't even begin to be interested in the kid, I really tried but it's just not me and then last summer I get a phone number of a girl in my village who thought I was only 23 and gave me her number as soon as she found out I was 30.
I was happy for all of 30 seconds till I got the "how are you with kids" thing and didn't bother. It's really not worth the hassle to relieve the boredom of being single by going from absolute freedom to a complex relationship with an ex boyfriend/husband you end up feeling awkward around when they come to collect the kid AND obviously the kid to consider as well.
freeny
Mar 19, 2009, 10:27 AM
They are just trying to wear you down. Eventually you will settle. It is the way.
drlunanerd
Mar 19, 2009, 10:27 AM
Get prepared to stay a virgin? =p
% of virgin by student major
http://www.geekologie.com/2009/03/percent_of_student_virgins_per.php
Wow, 59% of Computer Science majors are liars! ;)
annk
Mar 19, 2009, 11:07 AM
It's a pain when girls have kids.
Jesus. :eek:
This, my friend, is how you came to exist. :rolleyes:
I haven't being out with anyone in 4 years now
With all due respect, this somehow doesn't surprise me.
Abstract
Mar 19, 2009, 11:08 AM
That's what I got too.
Me too.
I say take it as a compliment and move on. Most people don't want to be 21 and dating someone with a kid, so I think most people here can understand. However, if someone likes you, you can't help that. Doesn't mean you're obliged to like them.
I find it a bit strange that you and 5 friends are all in the same situation. :confused: Are there just a lot of early-20's women in your area who have babies??
leekohler
Mar 19, 2009, 11:16 AM
benlangdon, you do realise that somewhere, in a cafe near you, there are a group of girls saying "Why are there no real men round here? All the men I ever seem to talk to turn out to be engineering student-boys with no experience of life.", right? ;)
Yep- there sure are.
Benlangdon, when in doubt, try craigs list. Don't laugh, it works. Say exactly what you're looking for and see what happens.
iBlue
Mar 19, 2009, 11:22 AM
I find it a bit strange that you and 5 friends are all in the same situation. :confused: Are there just a lot of early-20's women in your area who have babies??
Considering the (OP's) aforementioned apprehensions, I can easily work out how/why this may be happening. ;)
barkmonster
Mar 19, 2009, 11:25 AM
Jesus. :eek:
This, my friend, is how you came to exist. :rolleyes:
With all due respect, this somehow doesn't surprise me.
I'm not saying I hate kids and don't want kids at some stage in life, I just don't want OTHER PEOPLE'S kids and the girl last year has quite a reputation for always cheating on people.
She's was a bit of a chav really and for someone in her late 20s to be seen leaving pubs with various scrotes in trackies of about 19 at most made me think twice even BEFORE the mention of kids. It was just the straw that broke the camels back so far as having doubts about someone.
There was also this incident a few years earlier when she flew out of her house with a kitchen knife at a girl I've known for years, just for going out the ex boyfriend she actually has the kid by and she'd being seeing someone else herself for years already.
All of that adds up to "not my type" to start with really, kids or not.
Didn't mean to sound so blunt or picky
iBlue
Mar 19, 2009, 11:37 AM
It is threads like this that make me realize how primitive minded some men/boys are. I really couldn't help but think of wildlife and how in some species the males will kill the young of another male so they can mate with the female and have their own offspring. Not exactly the same thing but there are certainly parallels.
I can completely understand not wanting that responsibility, but I still find myself disappointed to read implications of the woman somehow being damaged goods or a slut simply because she has a child.
Against all evidence to the contrary, I'll try not to think all men are pigs if some of you can wrap your minds around the idea that not all single mothers are skanks. They merely got left with the responsibility guys not unlike yourselves didn't feel up for.
alFR
Mar 19, 2009, 11:40 AM
Lordy. I find it hard to understand why the ladies in this thread find it so repellent that someone aged 21 doesn't want the responsibility of a child. Seriously, if you were that age and the situation was reversed, would you get involved with a man with a child? I think the honest answer would be "probably not".
iBlue
Mar 19, 2009, 11:42 AM
Lordy. I find it hard to understand why the ladies in this thread find it so repellent that someone aged 21 doesn't want the responsibility of a child. Seriously, if you were that age and the situation was reversed, would you get involved with a man with a child? I think the honest answer would be "probably not".
try reading my post again. :rolleyes:
Peace
Mar 19, 2009, 11:42 AM
LOL. The first thing I thought of was something I can't mention..Well lets see..
A chick that's 20 something with a kid. No big deal.. Keep in mind because they do have a kid means you might learn something in bed.
How's that ? :)
yes I know. I'm a male chauvinistic pig.
alFR
Mar 19, 2009, 11:46 AM
try reading my post again. :rolleyes:
Actually, you posted no. 25 while I was writing my post. Short of clairvoyance, I don't really see how I could have known the content. Also, I wasn't aware you were speaking for every lady in the thread: apologies. :rolleyes:
iBlue
Mar 19, 2009, 11:48 AM
Actually, you posted no. 25 while I was writing my post. Short of clairvoyance, I don't really see how I could have known the content. Also, I wasn't aware you were speaking for every lady in the thread: apologies. :rolleyes:
Well your rather short post showed up a few minutes after mine did so I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that you were speaking at least in part to me. Apologies all over the place here too.
alFR
Mar 19, 2009, 11:49 AM
I'm a slow typist, what can I say? :)
iBlue
Mar 19, 2009, 11:50 AM
I'm a slow typist, what can I say? :)
It's a big job, I understand. :p
CalBoy
Mar 19, 2009, 11:53 AM
...more likely, statistically, to have given birth?
Brilliant! :D
Well I hope for their sake you continue to avoid them if you think so lowly of them for it.
I was going to suggest the opposite; dating someone with a child may bring about some maturity and halt his shallow classification of women "worthy" of dating.
OP, why don't you try to see if you have some compatibility with a person before rejecting them? Children are not the burden people think they are, and I think you'll find that if you really love her, you will love her child(ren). :)
benlangdon
Mar 19, 2009, 12:03 PM
Get prepared to stay a virgin? =p
% of virgin by student major
http://www.geekologie.com/2009/03/percent_of_student_virgins_per.php
hilarious. it pretty much tells my story :p
My friend, I am an engineering major as well, with most all of my friends in the engineering field. Just because you are an engineer, doesn't mean you can't assosciate with the fine women in Communications, Art, etc.
Go out, join some clubs that are outside of engineering. Stuff that is fun. Meet women in your downtown area.
Just be funny and confident, and they'll come your way.
only reason why i said im an engineering major is because all i do is study and have no time to meet girls outside of school, well i guess a lot of majors study narely amounts but at least in some of there classes there are more than 2 girls in there classes.
Me too.
I say take it as a compliment and move on. Most people don't want to be 21 and dating someone with a kid, so I think most people here can understand. However, if someone likes you, you can't help that. Doesn't mean you're obliged to like them.
I find it a bit strange that you and 5 friends are all in the same situation. :confused: Are there just a lot of early-20's women in your area who have babies??
dude thats why i posted it on here. its freaking weird.
It is threads like this that make me realize how primitive minded some men/boys are. I really couldn't help but think of wildlife and how in some species the males will kill the young of another male so they can mate with the female and have their own offspring. Not exactly the same thing but there are certainly parallels.
I can completely understand not wanting that responsibility, but I still find myself disappointed to read implications of the woman somehow being damaged goods or a slut simply because she has a child.
Against all evidence to the contrary, I'll try not to think all men are pigs if some of you can wrap your minds around the idea that not all single mothers are skanks. They merely got left with the responsibility guys not unlike yourselves didn't feel up for.
that wildlife thing was funny though.
i no way said she is tainted, no way did i say she is a slut and i don't think that at all, i mean my last girlfriend was a slut :rolleyes:.
i mean, i can barely take care of my self let alone a kid.:p
leekohler
Mar 19, 2009, 12:04 PM
Brilliant! :D
I was going to suggest the opposite; dating someone with a child may bring about some maturity and halt his shallow classification of women "worthy" of dating.
OP, why don't you try to see if you have some compatibility with a person before rejecting them? Children are not the burden people think they are, and I think you'll find that if you really love her, you will love her child(ren). :)
Two of my friends have married women who were single mothers. It's not so weird. But I do understand not wanting the responsibility. I'm 41 and I never want kids. That's what nieces and nephews are for. I get all the fun without the work. :)
No1451
Mar 19, 2009, 12:09 PM
I was going to suggest the opposite; dating someone with a child may bring about some maturity and halt his shallow classification of women "worthy" of dating.
OP, why don't you try to see if you have some compatibility with a person before rejecting them? Children are not the burden people think they are, and I think you'll find that if you really love her, you will love her child(ren). :)
Again, he never said they aren't worth of dating, just that he isn't interested in getting involved with a woman who has a child, which I can fully understand. We all set our own criteria for who we would and would not like to date, this may be his thing. I will never(ever) date a girl who smokes, I can't stand the taste, frigging nasty, doesn't mean I think less of them, just that I am not interested them because of that.
annk
Mar 19, 2009, 12:23 PM
I'm not saying I hate kids and don't want kids at some stage in life, I just don't want OTHER PEOPLE'S kids...
All of that adds up to "not my type" to start with really, kids or not.
Didn't mean to sound so blunt or picky
This puts the post I was commenting on in more of a perspective. I completely understand being wary of taking on someone else's kids; if affects the lives of all involved in a big way, and because of that it's wise to be sure that it's what you want before you leap into it, for everyones' sake. :)
Completely off-topic - - I really like your username. :p
Consultant
Mar 19, 2009, 12:28 PM
Try partner dancing, such as ballroom dancing, swing, salsa. Most schools have a dance club.
If there is a club, there would be lessons.
Might be too late to catch up to the lessons for current school year but doesn't hurt to start learning sooner.
Azmordean
Mar 19, 2009, 12:42 PM
It is threads like this that make me realize how primitive minded some men/boys are. I really couldn't help but think of wildlife and how in some species the males will kill the young of another male so they can mate with the female and have their own offspring. Not exactly the same thing but there are certainly parallels.
I can completely understand not wanting that responsibility, but I still find myself disappointed to read implications of the woman somehow being damaged goods or a slut simply because she has a child.
Against all evidence to the contrary, I'll try not to think all men are pigs if some of you can wrap your minds around the idea that not all single mothers are skanks. They merely got left with the responsibility guys not unlike yourselves didn't feel up for.
Ummm, I think people are being WAY harsh here. I read the OP's post and I didn't see him talking about "damaged goods." Okay, maybe the whole "normal" thing could be read that way, but I really don't think that is his intent. What I get from his post is that he doesn't want to date someone with a child. Which is PERFECTLY reasonable. I'm 27 and I wouldn't date a girl with a kid. Not because I think they are damaged goods, but because I'm looking to keep things light and fun, and do some casual dating, and frankly, I'm not sure I want kids at all.
I would NEVER suggest someone who is 21 get involved with someone with a child. A little later on in life, sure, if that's what you want, but at 21... no way, you aren't mature enough to deal with all that, nor should you.
Benlangdon - All I can say, is make some time away from the studies for some outside clubs and orgs. And try online dating. It works for a lot of people, and is especially good for people who aren't so into the bar scene.
northy124
Mar 19, 2009, 12:42 PM
I think you should be lucky to get that attention... there are women that wouldn't go near you with the subject you are studying:eek: (at least here anyway)
tbh I personally couldn't care less about a kid so long as me and the woman/girl get on...
CalBoy
Mar 19, 2009, 12:43 PM
Two of my friends have married women who were single mothers. It's not so weird. But I do understand not wanting the responsibility. I'm 41 and I never want kids. That's what nieces and nephews are for. I get all the fun without the work. :)
Well sure, Lee, that's something we can all decide for ourselves.
The real question is, would you give a man the cold shoulder because he has a kid? That's the part I don't like. The OP doesn't even want to give these women a chance, even though he probably has minimal experience with dating+kids.
Again, he never said they aren't worth of dating, just that he isn't interested in getting involved with a woman who has a child, which I can fully understand.
So could I, if he had given it a chance.
He's sort of "auto-rejected" dating these women because of perceived difficulties. All I'm saying is, give it a chance. Sometimes life surprises us. :)
iBlue
Mar 19, 2009, 01:00 PM
Ummm, I think people are being WAY harsh here. ....
I might have been a bit harsh and maybe slightly presumptuous but I think my points still stand. I've seen a certain tone in several threads here lately and it got right on my tits. I wanted to put a different turn on it. The OP seemed to catch my drift anyway.
No1451
Mar 19, 2009, 01:29 PM
He's sort of "auto-rejected" dating these women because of perceived difficulties. All I'm saying is, give it a chance. Sometimes life surprises us. :)
Fact is that we "auto-reject", as you put it, people all the time. In almost ever facet of our lives we will and do make decisions based on trivia or not so trivial things. We form opinions and relationships based on these and it is generally considered fine, yet he is getting a bit of a harsh treatment for it and there is mention of primitive male behaviours? I'm sorry but it's just a bit of a double standard being applied here.
And that just gets to me.
MarkCollette
Mar 19, 2009, 01:40 PM
It is threads like this that make me realize how primitive minded some men/boys are. I really couldn't help but think of wildlife and how in some species the males will kill the young of another male so they can mate with the female and have their own offspring. Not exactly the same thing but there are certainly parallels.
I was just talking, last night, with my girlfriend about how I disagree with the concept that primitive=bad. We have millions of years of evolution that have honed our primitive instincts, that has led to our surviving here and now. It seems a little naive to assume that something is wrong because it is primitive. Perhaps many of our high minded concepts are illusory, or will ultmately be found to be wrong? Or more likely, we need to carefully balance our constructions of civilisation along with our strength and heritage of instinct, not aiming to supplant one with the other.
I can completely understand not wanting that responsibility, but I still find myself disappointed to read implications of the woman somehow being damaged goods or a slut simply because she has a child.
Against all evidence to the contrary, I'll try not to think all men are pigs if some of you can wrap your minds around the idea that not all single mothers are skanks. They merely got left with the responsibility guys not unlike yourselves didn't feel up for.
I'm not sure if the OP intimated a fear of them being sluts. If anything, he sounds desperately in hope of a girl with not too many barriers ;) But the reality is that someone who has a child, has many more barriers than someone without. I really like kids, so I'll touch on a different angle. In many cases, there are lingering feelings for, and complications from, the father. It's like dating a girl who was dumped by her ex, and they're trying to still be friends. How many single mothers have I met, who have more than one child from the same guy, but they were already broken up before the subsequent children.
Of course there are many different types of single mothers, so it would be ridiculous to paint them with the same brush. I'm just saying that, while I've dated several, I can understand while other men don't go there.
Mousse
Mar 19, 2009, 02:21 PM
The real question is, would you give a man the cold shoulder because he has a kid? That's the part I don't like. The OP doesn't even want to give these women a chance, even though he probably has minimal experience with dating+kids.
Quite the opposite usually happens. More women notices me when I'm toting around my daughter. Maybe it's my 6 month old baby that attract them; it's definitely not me.:p
The Op's reaction is typical of a rationalist, a pragmatic thinker, or an engineer.
An optimist, a pessimist and an engineer walked by a table with a cup of water on it.
The optimist said, "The cup is half full.":)
The pessimist said, "The cup is half empty.":(
The engineer said, "The cup is twice as big as necessary.";)
waiwai
Mar 19, 2009, 02:45 PM
Literally the only kind of girls we have been getting attention from are ones with kids.
seriously.
my friends and i are all studying things like engineering (my major) and medical things. so its not like there are many girls on this part of campus and we are all dying here in need of some women. but all the attention were getting back is from girls that have had a kid. like literally, all of them.
i dunno what to do.
i mean im pretty desperate and im pretty sure my friends are on the same level. i mean heck im making a thread about it. its not like we are old, heck im 21, my other friends are 19, 20, 24, 21, and 21
why can't i just meet normal (i.e. no kids) girls?
Sorry sounds like your game is weak, starting a thread about it is even weaker. Your excuse of "there are no girls, my type, around my campus" is pathetic. 100% weaksauce. You say you're desperate but don't actually put any effort into doing anything about it. Instead you spend time b*tching about how you can't find a gf on an online forum. Has it ever occurred to you that there are girls outside of the campus?
Man up. If you're desperate go hunt them down wherever they may be... Clubs, bars, lounges, coffee shops... although the first 3 aren't exactly places that great for finding life-long soulmates.
Damn! Even just make friends with the girls with kids! Who knows... they might have friends that are your type, and they can maybe hook u up!
Whining here ain't gonna get u a gf. Actually go out and do something about it.
And I agree with the rest... What's wrong with the ones with kids? Pre-judging them because they got kids is low. That type of attitude ain't gonna get you no where.
And in your case... "Beggers can't be choosers". So be greatful for what opportunities you get.
Rt&Dzine
Mar 19, 2009, 03:22 PM
Start wearing T-shirts that say things like "Virgins Need Only Apply" or "Down With Procreation" or other catchy phrases.
leekohler
Mar 19, 2009, 03:30 PM
Well sure, Lee, that's something we can all decide for ourselves.
The real question is, would you give a man the cold shoulder because he has a kid?
To be honest? He'd have to be one hell of a great guy. I don't want kids, Calboy. It would most likely be a mistake for me to date someone with kids, wouldn't you say? If the guy doesn't want to date somebody with kids already, what's wrong with that?
timerollson
Mar 19, 2009, 03:34 PM
If the guy doesn't want to date somebody with kids already, what's wrong with that?
Absolutely nothing. We all filter through potential suitors based on certain standards. Some guys only prefer blondes. Some girls don't like short men. It's all a matter of preference.
I know that I wouldn't even give a guy with a kid a look at my age. It's my preference. People get caught up with being PC all the time.
northy124
Mar 19, 2009, 03:56 PM
I know that I wouldn't even give a guy with a kid a look at my age. It's my preference. People get caught up with being PC all the time.
What if he was a great guy? I know I would take a second look at that woman if she was great fun and we got along, I know I have different opinions (mine being I couldn't care less if she had a kid before she was married) but I would like to know what your opinion would be on that.
P.S I am all round type of guy (to a certain extent)
leekohler
Mar 19, 2009, 03:57 PM
What if he was a great guy? I know I would take a second look at that woman if she was great fun and we got along, I know I have different opinions (mine being I couldn't care less if she had a kid before she was married) but I would like to know what your opinion would be on that.
P.S I am all round type of guy (to a certain extent)
I'd walk away, TBH. I do not want kids.
timerollson
Mar 19, 2009, 04:02 PM
What if he was a great guy? I know I would take a second look at that woman if she was great fun and we got along, I know I have different opinions (mine being I couldn't care less if she had a kid before she was married) but I would like to know what your opinion would be on that.
P.S I am all round type of guy (to a certain extent)
I really wouldn't care if he was a great guy. The cons that I perceive outweigh the positives. I know I wouldn't be in a relationship with only him but with his kid. You can't beat around the bush and say that's not always the case. That kid is a significant part of his life. You can't turn off being a father when you're with someone. It's not like listening to music where you can press the pause button. I sure don't want to be a step-mom at 22.
I'd rather not deal with it.
P-Worm
Mar 19, 2009, 04:14 PM
I really like kids, so I'll touch on a different angle.
If you just take this part of the quote it sounds quite dirty. :p
Sorry, I know that wasn't on topic. It just made me laugh.
P-Worm
waiwai
Mar 19, 2009, 04:15 PM
If you just take this part of the quote it sounds quite dirty. :p
Sorry, I know that wasn't on topic. It just made me laugh.
P-Worm
that is disturbing.
raggedjimmi
Mar 19, 2009, 06:27 PM
What if he was a great guy? I know I would take a second look at that woman if she was great fun and we got along, I know I have different opinions (mine being I couldn't care less if she had a kid before she was married) but I would like to know what your opinion would be on that.
P.S I am all round type of guy (to a certain extent)
Then that person doesn't tick the requirements you are after so it's time to look elsewhere.
Personally if someone had a kid I wouldn't go out with them. I've got too much going on with my career right now and if I wanted children I'd like my own (is that selfish?). To see them take their first steps and all that.
CalBoy
Mar 19, 2009, 07:48 PM
Fact is that we "auto-reject", as you put it, people all the time. In almost ever facet of our lives we will and do make decisions based on trivia or not so trivial things. We form opinions and relationships based on these and it is generally considered fine, yet he is getting a bit of a harsh treatment for it and there is mention of primitive male behaviours? I'm sorry but it's just a bit of a double standard being applied here.
And that just gets to me.
I think what really rubbed me the wrong way can be summed up by what iBlue wrote a few posts up.
The value judgement of "normal" caught my attention and made me think that the OP hasn't even fully considered this and what he really wants is a relationship that fits a certain mold he has already created for himself without any prior knowledge or experience.
Quite the opposite usually happens. More women notices me when I'm toting around my daughter. Maybe it's my 6 month old baby that attract them; it's definitely not me.:p
Of course Lee is a guy, so it doesn't work out quite the same. ;)
To be honest? He'd have to be one hell of a great guy. I don't want kids, Calboy. It would most likely be a mistake for me to date someone with kids, wouldn't you say? If the guy doesn't want to date somebody with kids already, what's wrong with that?
There's nothing wrong with it, but I think you forget that you came to this decision after giving it some thought and spending time with kids.
The OP hasn't given any indication that he's ever even tried dating a woman with a child, and I think it's unfair to judge something before you try it.
michael.lauden
Mar 19, 2009, 07:59 PM
The only attention I/we get from girls is ones that have kids.
are*
is - singular
are - plural
:D
barkmonster
Mar 19, 2009, 08:07 PM
This puts the post I was commenting on in more of a perspective. I completely understand being wary of taking on someone else's kids; if affects the lives of all involved in a big way, and because of that it's wise to be sure that it's what you want before you leap into it, for everyones' sake. :)
Completely off-topic - - I really like your username. :p
It comes from something I used to call my dog when he'd constantly dive on me when I got home from work years ago. He died in my mid 20s but 15 was pretty good going for any breed of dog.
kabunaru
Mar 19, 2009, 08:11 PM
interesting definition of 'normal'...
There is no such thing as "normal". Everybody is unique in their own way.
raggedjimmi
Mar 19, 2009, 08:20 PM
There is no such thing as "normal". Everybody is unique in their own way.
Except there is such a thing as normal, since people like to do things together, have similar tastes etc. Normal is just what the bulk of people do or like.
kabunaru
Mar 19, 2009, 08:22 PM
since people like to do things together, have similar tastes etc.
People are very socialising creatures.
raggedjimmi
Mar 19, 2009, 08:47 PM
People are very socialising creatures.
Exactly. If you fit in with the societies that you are either born into or choose yourself then you're "normal".
Anonymouslives
Mar 19, 2009, 10:11 PM
You'll probably have to face the fact, sooner or later, that you're ugly. Sure, you may have a bright future and all, but that doesn't negate genetics.
Abstract
Mar 19, 2009, 10:45 PM
Ummm, I think people are being WAY harsh here. I read the OP's post and I didn't see him talking about "damaged goods." Okay, maybe the whole "normal" thing could be read that way, but I really don't think that is his intent.
I agree. I think he's just bad with words. He's an engineer. :p
benlangdon
Mar 20, 2009, 02:33 AM
An optimist, a pessimist and an engineer walked by a table with a cup of water on it.
The optimist said, "The cup is half full.":)
The pessimist said, "The cup is half empty.":(
The engineer said, "The cup is twice as big as necessary.";)
hahahaaah nice.
Sorry sounds like your game is weak, starting a thread about it is even weaker. Your excuse of "there are no girls, my type, around my campus" is pathetic. 100% weaksauce. You say you're desperate but don't actually put any effort into doing anything about it. Instead you spend time b*tching about how you can't find a gf on an online forum. Has it ever occurred to you that there are girls outside of the campus?
Man up. If you're desperate go hunt them down wherever they may be... Clubs, bars, lounges, coffee shops... although the first 3 aren't exactly places that great for finding life-long soulmates.
Damn! Even just make friends with the girls with kids! Who knows... they might have friends that are your type, and they can maybe hook u up!
Whining here ain't gonna get u a gf. Actually go out and do something about it.
And I agree with the rest... What's wrong with the ones with kids? Pre-judging them because they got kids is low. That type of attitude ain't gonna get you no where.
And in your case... "Beggers can't be choosers". So be greatful for what opportunities you get.
whining about me whining is funny.
If you just take this part of the quote it sounds quite dirty. :p
P-Worm
hahaha
The only attention I/we get from girls is ones that have kids.
are*
is - singular
are - plural
:DI agree. I think he's just bad with words. He's an engineer. :p
dude i rewrote that title and opening like 3 times. ya, defiantly should not be an English major.
Exactly. If you fit in with the societies that you are either born into or choose yourself then you're "normal".
wow you guys really are taking this normal thing harshly. let me say this.
it took me like ten minutes to get that written and i was doing physics all day and was brain deaddddddddd
You'll probably have to face the fact, sooner or later, that you're ugly. Sure, you may have a bright future and all, but that doesn't negate genetics.
hahahahaha that stung a little :rolleyes:
c-Row
Mar 20, 2009, 02:52 AM
@OP
Hey, at least you get some attention. :rolleyes:
benlangdon
Mar 20, 2009, 03:13 AM
…no one?
I am deeply, deeply disappointed in all of you.
The irony could have been cutting edge.
actually i was reading that post and read it like 4 times and was so lost.
Abstract
Mar 20, 2009, 03:16 AM
If you just take this part of the quote it sounds quite dirty. :p
Sorry, I know that wasn't on topic. It just made me laugh.
P-Worm
Is it time for a new sig?
Nah! I've had dirty innuendo sports quotes over the past 5 years. Can't stop now!
No1451
Mar 20, 2009, 10:03 AM
@OP
Hey, at least you get some attention. :rolleyes:
This post makes a good point. I get absolutely no attention from women at all. A lot of females do the exact thing that iBlue was talking about a few posts back, not because I have a kid but because I'm not attractive. Cept that nobody calls them out on it. Double standards are awesome.
northy124
Mar 20, 2009, 10:10 AM
@OP
Hey, at least you get some attention. :rolleyes:
True some (see above :p ) don't get attention at all..:o
iBlue
Mar 20, 2009, 10:27 AM
This post makes a good point. I get absolutely no attention from women at all. A lot of females do the exact thing that iBlue was talking about a few posts back, not because I have a kid but because I'm not attractive. Cept that nobody calls them out on it. Double standards are awesome.
Hey man, I can't fight all the battles. :p
Lau
Mar 20, 2009, 10:29 AM
This post makes a good point. I get absolutely no attention from women at all. A lot of females do the exact thing that iBlue was talking about a few posts back, not because I have a kid but because I'm not attractive. Cept that nobody calls them out on it. Double standards are awesome.
How do you know it's because you're not attractive?
No1451
Mar 20, 2009, 10:51 AM
Because I've had it said, to my face. Truth can be a little harsh sometimes.
@iBlue - You can't? And here I was hoping you were super woman though I'm not sure the costume would suit you.
iBlue
Mar 20, 2009, 11:03 AM
Because I've had it said, to my face. Truth can be a little harsh sometimes.
@iBlue - You can't? And here I was hoping you were super woman though I'm not sure the costume would suit you.
It can, but bear in mind that sometimes people can just be jerks. I've been called all sorts of crap that didn't really apply. Don't be so hard on yourself. I think a large part of appeal is confidence. Women especially can sense that vibe. I know, easier said than done, but don't feed self negativity.
And you're probably right, I couldn't do the traditional superhero thing, especially if it meant wearing a cape, that's just obvious!
edit: and I totally agree with what Lau said below.
Lau
Mar 20, 2009, 11:14 AM
It can, but bear in mind that sometimes people can just be jerks. I've been called all sorts of crap that didn't really apply. Don't be so hard on yourself. I think a large part of appeal is confidence. Women especially can sense that vibe. I know, easier said than done, but don't feed self negativity.
I'd totally agree with this. All it takes is someone to tap into your insecurity and say that once and it really knocks your confidence, and then, because you're half believing it you get knocked back again and again, and think it's because of that again when it's actually something else entirely or directly because of your attitude.
A huge amount of appeal is confidence. Not arrogance or being a 'player', as that's a real turnoff, but being quietly confident in your own skin. Even if someone said it was to do with your looks and even thought that themselves, it's more likely to be because you didn't make them think you were attractive, if that makes any sense.
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c-Row
Mar 20, 2009, 07:17 PM
I think a large part of appeal is confidence. Women especially can sense that vibe.
In other words, I am totally screwed. :(
spencers
Mar 20, 2009, 09:21 PM
thread should have ended with
sosuave.com
Abstract
Mar 20, 2009, 09:38 PM
In other words, I am totally screwed. :(
And thanks for expressing your feelings, and proving her point at the same time. :p
c-Row
Mar 21, 2009, 04:20 AM
Always a pleasure being of help. ;)
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