About those Japanese 'hostages' in Iraq...

[Frohickey]

Hang On, Japan (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=10571)
Many new and (potentially) extremely disturbing and ironic details have emerged on the Japanese-kidnapped-in-Iraq situation. Firstly, and most importantly, is the post by A Japanese Reader (#102 in this earlier LGF thread.) The second is Allah's postings of the victims in captivity and what they did before they left Japan:...

Burn them Alive and Feed Them to the Fighters (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=10561#c0102)
It seems like you guys aren't aware that these 3 Japanese civilians are anti-war lefties, actively against Japanese troop deployment in Iraq. Members of a non-profit organization. They remind me of Rachel Correy. One of them is a journalist(by contract) from Weekly Asahi (Asahi is kinda like BBC...anti-Japan/America, Pro-north korea/china).
Noriaki Imai, 18 year-old student activist, has his own group against war. Here's his homepage in Japanese... if you read in translation, you will know that he and others had same interest as the terrorist who kidnapped them.

Noriaki Imai posted in a thread, with the title "Big secreat Plan!" on April 7, 2004 09:57
" I have met the freelance journalist from Weekly Asahi today! After we chatted a while, he told me a big plan! It might be great. I think this will be a great achievement in history, and miss takato is also interested, so I think it's worth doing"

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So, it may be that these Japanese 'hostages' are anti-war protestors that volunteered to be kidnapped. Also, it could be that the kidnappers at first played along, and now are making the kidnapping, real.

Sad.

Hope for a safe return for these 3.

[Frohickey]

gotta remember this one...

Pre 9/11 I would have disagreed but now I think elderly Japanese are right:young people in affluent countries are victims of 'heiwa boke'.

'Heiwa' being peace,the absence of struggle or conflict.'Boke(ru)' meaning you've gone soft,gotten spacy,or even senile.

heiwa boke... heiwa boke... :eek:

[bousozoku]

Then, they are stupid and deserve their fate.

[diamond geezer]

gotta remember this one...



heiwa boke... heiwa boke... :eek:

I'm sure there a plenty of old Japanese, who feel the young have gone soft through not going out and murdering/raping scores of Chinese.

"What this country needs is another Nanking, put some backbone in them!"

[amnesiac1984]

It not about being soft, its about being less eager to jump head first into a war without good reason.

[Frohickey]

I'm sure there a plenty of old Japanese, who feel the young have gone soft through not going out and murdering/raping scores of Chinese.

"What this country needs is another Nanking, put some backbone in them!"

And people wonder why political discourse in this country is not civil. How could you have a meaningful and respectful conversation with above sentiments? :eek: :(

[Krizoitz]

And people wonder why political discourse in this country is not civil. How could you have a meaningful and respectful conversation with above sentiments? :eek: :(

And the stock answer to any unanswerable question like that...magic!
Sorry couldn't resist, although i do agree with you that it seems that people are more interested in attacking each other than exchanging ideas these days...why back when i was...oh wait...i'm not old and bitter yet, that doesn't work.

[Frohickey]

And the stock answer to any unanswerable question like that...magic!
Sorry couldn't resist, although i do agree with you that it seems that people are more interested in attacking each other than exchanging ideas these days...why back when i was...oh wait...i'm not old and bitter yet, that doesn't work.

Are you saying that you are young and sweet? You have a younger sister? :p

[skunk]

And people wonder why political discourse in this country is not civil. How could you have a meaningful and respectful conversation with above sentiments? :eek: :(
I, for one, believe that the present "soft" stance of the Japanese is INFINITELY preferable to their imperialist, racist and fascist stance during the interwar and wartime years. What's wrong with recognising that?

[mactastic]

And people wonder why political discourse in this country is not civil. How could you have a meaningful and respectful conversation with above sentiments? :eek: :(


Haha, that's rich coming from someone who insults liberals, the French, and Middle Easterners every chance he gets. :D :eek:

[diamond geezer]

And people wonder why political discourse in this country is not civil. How could you have a meaningful and respectful conversation with above sentiments? :eek: :(

My comment was regarding heiwa boke, and in regards to that are quite relevant.

[poopyhead]

I, for one, believe that the present "soft" stance of the Japanese is INFINITELY preferable to their imperialist, racist and fascist stance during the interwar and wartime years. What's wrong with recognising that?

ummm...
they are still racist
ask any Korean who lives in Japan

come on the whole threat about cooking them alive and feeding them to their fighters is tooooo far out
Muslims would never do this and would never seriously say this
they were playing to american sentiment portrayed in the media after the Faluja incident (which was barbaric) that Muslims and Iraqis are barbarians

[SlyHunter]

Quote:
Originally Posted by skunk
I, for one, believe that the present "soft" stance of the Japanese is INFINITELY preferable to their imperialist, racist and fascist stance during the interwar and wartime years. What's wrong with recognising that?

ummm...
they are still racist
ask any Korean who lives in Japan

come on the whole threat about cooking them alive and feeding them to their fighters is tooooo far out
Muslims would never do this and would never seriously say this
they were playing to american sentiment portrayed in the media after the Faluja incident (which was barbaric) that Muslims and Iraqis are barbarians
Muslims would never do this? Not even if they were Palestinian and wrote a comic book stating that Jews killed children and drank their blood during passover? I already provided a link to that on a different thread showing that same comic book series but for a different reason.

[poopyhead]

Muslims would never do this? Not even if they were Palestinian and wrote a comic book stating that Jews killed children and drank their blood during passover? I already provided a link to that on a different thread showing that same comic book series but for a different reason.

no
please think!
Muslims, like jews, have dietary laws
they don't eat pork
they are not going to eat pork eating japanese
because they are unclean

kidnapp sure but people eating NO

[poopyhead]

Muslims would never do this? Not even if they were Palestinian and wrote a comic book stating that Jews killed children and drank their blood during passover? I already provided a link to that on a different thread showing that same comic book series but for a different reason.

the first college I went to had a large jewish and muslim student population
many of whom were my friends
I have heard the blood drinking thing before
martin the guy who lived in the dorm room next to mine was muslim (an african american muslim but not a nation of islam muslim-- nation of islam is not muslim because they beleive in a prophet after muhammad) and a good friend of mine
he used to say "the wine of the jews is the blood of the africans"
this was tongue and cheek
and not literal
jason (who is jewish) was one of my best friends
he and martin were friends
they used to joke around about the blood/wine thing
the Palestinians are not talking literally it is figurative language used to convey a deeper meaning
strangely enough
and against what most right wingers (american nazis) believe
non western people are people too
and are capable of higher thought
yes thought as deep and meaningful as pure white people american thought
palestinians
no matter what you think of them
use symbolism too

[SlyHunter]

the first college I went to had a large jewish and muslim student population
many of whom were my friends
I have heard the blood drinking thing before
martin the guy who lived in the dorm room next to mine was muslim (an african american muslim but not a nation of islam muslim-- nation of islam is not muslim because they beleive in a prophet after muhammad) and a good friend of mine
he used to say "the wine of the jews is the blood of the africans"
this was tongue and cheek
and not literal
jason (who is jewish) was one of my best friends
he and martin were friends
they used to joke around about the blood/wine thing
the Palestinians are not talking literally it is figurative language used to convey a deeper meaning
strangely enough
and against what most right wingers (american nazis) believe
non western people are people too
and are capable of higher thought
yes thought as deep and meaningful as pure white people american thought
palestinians
no matter what you think of them
use symbolism too
oh really?

In the Saudi government daily Al-Riyadh, columnist Dr. Umayma Ahmad Al-Jalahma of King Faysal University in Al-Dammam, wrote last week (March 10, 2002) on "The Jewish Holiday of Purim." The following are excerpts of the article:

Special Ingredient For Jewish Holidays is Human Blood From Non-Jewish Youth:

For this holiday, the Jewish people must obtain human blood so that their clerics can prepare the holiday pastries. In other words, the practice cannot be carried out as required if human blood is not spilled!!

The Jews' spilling human blood to prepare pastry for their holidays is a well-established fact, historically and legally, all throughout history. This was one of the main reasons for the persecution and exile that were their lot in Europe and Asia at various times.

How the Jews Drain the Blood From Their Young Victims:

I would like to tell you how human blood is spilled so it can be used for their holiday pastries. The blood is spilled in a special way. How is it done? For this holiday, the victim must be a mature adolescent who is, of course, a non-Jew -- that is, a Christian or a Muslim. His blood is taken and dried into granules. The cleric blends these granules into the pastry dough; they can also be saved for the next holiday. In contrast, for the Passover slaughtering, about which I intend to write one of these days, the blood of Christian and Muslim children under the age of 10 must be used, and the cleric can mix the blood [into the dough] before or after dehydration. The Actions of the Jewish Vampires Cause Them Pleasure:

Let us now examine how the victims' blood is spilled. For this, a needle-studded barrel is used; this is a kind of barrel, about the size of the human body, with extremely sharp needles set in it on all sides. [These needles] pierce the victim's body, from the moment he is placed in the barrel.

These needles do the job, and the victim's blood drips from him very slowly. Thus, the victim suffers dreadful torment -- torment that affords the Jewish vampires great delight as they carefully monitor every detail of the blood-shedding with pleasure and love that are difficult to comprehend. (translation by memri.org)

Egypt, the first Arab country to make peace with Israel, recently ran a TV series called "Horseman Without a Horse," a 30-part series based on the anti-Semitic forgery, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion."

Sheikh Muhammed Abd Al Hadi La'afi, responsible for Religious Teaching and Instruction in the Office of the Wakf, wrote in the official P.A. newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (May 18, 2001):

The battle with the Jews will surely come... the decisive Muslim victory is coming without a doubt, and the prophet spoke about in more than one Hadith and the Day of resurrection will not come without the victory of the believers [the Muslims] over the descendents of the monkeys and pigs [the Jews] and with their annihilation.

These hate-filled teachings proliferate even in America. The Washington Post reported (March 2002) on Muslim elementary and high schools in the U.S.:

[One] 11th-grade textbook, for example, says one sign of the Day of Judgment will be that Muslims will fight and kill Jews, who will hide behind trees that say: 'Oh Muslim, Oh servant of God, here is a Jew hiding behind me. Come here and kill him.' Several students of different ages, all of whom asked not to be identified, said that in Islamic studies, they are taught that it is better to shun and even to dislike Christians, Jews and Shi'ite Muslims... [In addition,] maps of the Middle East hang on classroom walls, but Israel is missing.

http://www.science.co.il/Arab-Israeli-conflict/Articles/Dunetz-2002-03-18.asp
This took me a 10 second search to find. I don't keep everything I find in my favorites it would stack up to fast so I have to refind things I've read in the past and hope I find them again.

20 more seconds of searching

Despite the UN's origins, the General Assembly did not recognize anti-Semitism as a form of discrimination until December 1998 - more than 50 years after the end of World War II. Twice, Jews have been the subject of blood libels at the UN - at the UN Commission on Human Rights, of all places. In 1991, they were accused of murdering children to extract their blood in order to make ritual Passover food. In 1997, the Israeli government was accused of infecting Palestinian children with HIV-contaminated blood. In both cases, no country other than the United States and Israel was willing to speak out against these terrible accusations. Thankfully, the lessons of World War II have not been forgotten by all. There are those who will speak out against anti-Semitism and racial discrimination:

Acknowledging that Jews may seem to be subject to ill treatment at the UN, Secretary-General Kofi Annan has said: "Still the broader fight at against anti-Semitism must be addressed. We must use the occasion to denounce anti-Semitism in all of its manifestations." In Sweden, Prime Minister Goran Persson recently convened an international forum on the Holocaust, sending a message to the growing numbers of neo-Nazis in Sweden that his government will not abide such intolerance. And at risk of damaging unity among themselves, the EU has sent the message to Mr. Haider and to all Europeans that organized xenophobia and racism are not welcome in Europe. The EU deserves great credit for denouncing Mr. Haider's crypto-Nazism. It has gone as far as it can within a democratic framework to tackle racism.-Dawn/LAT-WP News Service (c) IHT

http://www.dawn.com/2000/02/06/int11.htm

[poopyhead]

oh really?

http://www.science.co.il/Arab-Israeli-conflict/Articles/Dunetz-2002-03-18.asp
This took me a 10 second search to find. I don't keep everything I find in my favorites it would stack up to fast so I have to refind things I've read in the past and hope I find them again.

20 more seconds of searching

http://www.dawn.com/2000/02/06/int11.htm

Palestinians are semitic too
the author of your second article is ignorant
thus I will disregard it

your first article lacks import as well
it is filled with propaganda
and it seems unusual that a page that purports to be a page devoted to Israeli physical sciences would have such an article which in no way pertains to their supposed broader message

as I learned several years ago
just because it is on a web sight
it doesn't mean that it is true

[SlyHunter]

Well then I guess it would be impossible to convince you of anything unless I used a site you approved of. I may be wrong but I would not be surprised only those sites that agree with you do you approve of. In case I am wrong here are some more sample.

Do Jews Drink Blood Of Christian Babes On Passower?
http://www.exile.ru/138/do_jews_drink_blood_of_christian_babes_on_passower.html


Re: POEM TO PALESTINIANS- by a secular jew
We DID withdraw, we armed your army.
We trusted Arafat (a dare).
Your leader lied to us.. and you?
And do you really care?

He was supposed to end the terror,
You were supposed to get a state.
Terror continued, thats the failure!
The offer was no bait.

The things you blame us for, you do.
You are the ones that hate.
So turn away from hating us,
Before it is too late!

Your leaders tell you we drink blood,
They tell you hope is broken, gone,
They tell you terrorism will help you:
Lies are many, truth is one.

http://www.countries.com/messageboard/messages/1064.html

this is the actual cartoon series one of which protrays Jews as drinkers of children blood. They teach this in their schools and one of these links is directly to a Palestinian web page if you can speak the language.
Now which is more biassed Woldnetdaily or that Hamas's kids magazine?

Hamas kids' magazine: 'Destroy rapist Jews'
Periodical claims Iraqi children being 'torn to shreds' by U.S.

for those who can read arabic here is the magazine itself I think. http://www.al-fateh.net/

A monthly children's magazine published by the Hamas terrorist organization urges Palestinian and Iraqi children to pray for Allah to "destroy the cruel, rapist Jews" and bring victory to the Palestinian and Iraqi causes.

"The eighth edition of Al-Fateh [The Conqueror], was published [last month] and it seems that over the last eight months it has caught the eyes of its young readers," says an analysis by The Media Line, an Israel-based group offering news and commentary on the Middle East.
Pleas for violence against Jews, contained in the magazine's editorial, is preceded by descriptions of alleged suffering by Iraqi children as a result of the U.S.-led war to oust Saddam Hussein. It says the children are suffering due to cruelty being committed against them by coalition forces
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images2/hamashorse.gif
"The Conqueror" icon of the Al-Fateh magazine.

The editorial says the enemy's hatred and insensitivity "are caused by the Jewish filth, and they are inspired by the Jews' cruelty, heresy and barbarity."

Felice Friedson, president and CEO of The Media Line, told WorldNetDaily she believes the magazine's creators are ratcheting up the hate-filled rhetoric against Israel and the Jewish faith to attract more readers – a ploy that seems to be working.

She said the magazine's website has attracted 1.6 million visitors since its launch. It uses simple language, light stories and endearing illustrated characters, TML analysts have said.


+ more http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31943

also here http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29535

TROUBLE IN THE HOLY LAND
Hamas launches webzine for kids
Journal praises martyrs, encourages children to follow example
Islamic terror group Hamas has launched a new Web magazine for kids that praises martyrs while encouraging children to follow the example of committing suicide for the "cause."

Complete with cartoon characters and other pictures demonstrating the "heroism of Palestinian children," the online magazine, titled Al-Fateh, promises "pages discussing Jihad (holy war), scientific pages, the best stories, not be found elsewhere, and unequalled tales of heroism." The webzine's editor hopes it will be read by "our beloved youth, the leaders of the future."