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zimv20
Apr 10, 2004, 06:54 PM
link (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/11/international/middleeast/11RESI.html?ex=1082624630&ei=1&en=c445e839d16fd06e)


BAGHDAD, Iraq, April 10 — Moneer Munthir is ready to kill Americans.

For months, he has been struggling to control an explosion of miserable feelings: humiliation, fear, anger, depression.

"But in the last two weeks, these feelings blow up inside me," said Mr. Munthir, a 35-year-old laborer. "The Americans are attacking Shiite and Sunni at the same time. They have crossed a line. I had to get a gun."

Ahmed, a 29-year-old man with elegant fingers and honey-colored eyes, has been planting bombs inside dead dogs and leaving them on the highway. He and a team of helpers have been especially busy recently.

"We start work after 11 p.m.," Ahmed said. "Our group is small, just friends, and we don't even have a name."

Khalif Juma, a 26-year-old vegetable seller, said he and his cousins bought a crate of Kalashnikov rifles last week.

"To be honest, we weren't like this before," he said. "But we're religious people, and our leader has been threatened. We would be ashamed to stay in our houses with our wives at a time like this."

A new surge of Iraqi resistance is sweeping up thousands of people, Shiite and Sunni, in a loose coalition united by overwhelming anti-Americanism. On March 31, insurgents in Falluja ambushed four civilian contractors and mutilated their bodies, and the fiery words of Moktada al-Sadr, the young radical Shiite cleric, a few days later prompted violent uprisings in four cities.

In Baghdad, Kufa, Najaf, Baquba and Falluja, interviews with Sunnis and Shiites alike show a new corps of men, and a few women, who have resolved to join the resistance. They also reveal a generation of young people inured to violence and hankering to join in the fighting.

There is no way to estimate the size of the mushrooming insurgent force, but demonstrations in several cities by armed and angry people indicate that it probably runs in the tens of thousands. Many people said they did not consider themselves full-time freedom fighters or mujahedeen; they have jobs in vegetable shops, offices, garages and schools.

But when the time comes, they say, they line up behind their leaders — with guns.

"I'm in my shop right now but if anything happens, I'll close up and take my weapon and join them," Mr. Juma said. "I'm ready."

Several people described a loose command structure. Mr. Juma said he supported Mr. Sadr but is not part of his militia, the Mahdi Army. He said he received instructions from an imam at a mosque near Kufa.

American officials have announced an arrest warrant for Mr. Sadr, who had entrenched himself in his hometown, Kufa, in southern Iraq, last weekend, then disappeared.

Many Iraqis have weapons, in part because the American-led occupiers have often failed to protect them from looters and other criminals. Now, people are taking their guns into the streets.

Ala Muhammad is a 24-year-old mechanic in Baghdad. He likes to work on trucks.

The other day, when trouble broke out in the predominantly Shiite neighborhood of Khadamiya, he dashed home from work, grabbed a clip for his Kalashnikov and took it out front.

"If the Americans come this way, we will fight them," Mr. Muhammad said. "I'm going to defend my house, my street, my land, my religion."

He stood on the sidewalk in sweat pants, without shoes.

"I like to fight barefoot," he said.

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(emphasis mine)

i don't think this is the "handful of enemies of freedom" to which bush and rumsfeld keep referring.

i also don't think that the strategy of showing bush being relaxed by bass fishing in texas is sending quite the right messsage.



Krizoitz
Apr 10, 2004, 07:08 PM
While I think Bush lied to us and the war was a completely poorly run opperation it really makes me wonder sometimes. On the one hand if we don't do something we are accused of being a selfish nation who only looks out for themself, etc etc etc. If we do do something we are accused of interfering and being imperialist, etc etc etc.

Did these people really think that once Saddam went away everything would magically work again? Patience is something the entire world seems to lack sometimes.

zimv20
Apr 10, 2004, 07:41 PM
Patience is something the entire world seems to lack sometimes.
well, it's been a year. some people are still w/o reliable water and electricty. seems the security situation was never really in hand.

if you'll recall, one of the first impressions the iraqis got was 1) the museum was unprotected and looted, and 2) the oil ministry and refineries were secured first. after that kind of message, i'd say they've been pretty patient

takao
Apr 11, 2004, 09:29 AM
While I think Bush lied to us and the war was a completely poorly run opperation it really makes me wonder sometimes. On the one hand if we don't do something we are accused of being a selfish nation who only looks out for themself, etc etc etc. If we do do something we are accused of interfering and being imperialist, etc etc etc.

Did these people really think that once Saddam went away everything would magically work again? Patience is something the entire world seems to lack sometimes.

actually the war was executed fast and very smooth..
but doesn't this sound familiar:

overwhelming air supiriority, independent tank groups supported by APCs,mobile artillery, special operation squads, highly advanced radio & recon equipment,modern infantry squad tactics, ahead of its time infantry equipment,...

this warfare-style isn't new and weren't invented in the us

but when first introduced it had the same problem: the germans fought 6-4 years against the polish,french,jugoslawian etc. "Resistance" and even their ultra brutal cruel methods didn't work... oh and they called the resistance actions also "terrorists"

no americans aren't nazis (those were mosnters and not human beings) and i won't compare them either ...
but the propaganda and the war in iraq is just history repeating

actually patience won't work
do a google search on "marshall plan" ..help them to build up their country by themselfs.... and problems will disapear...oh and treat them as equals (_that_ is missing at the moment)