New Apple Products at NAB?

[MacRumors]

In perhaps an obvious prediction, more evidence appears to point to new product announcements at the NAB conference during the week of April 19th.

Apple has already notified the press (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/03/20040310162042.shtml) of a media event on April 18th 2004.

The invitation read:

Moving pictures. Moving sound. Moving the industry. Please join Apple for a special presentation at NAB 2004 to see the latest Apple technology

A GIF of the invitation can be found here (http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/nabinvite.gif).

The Los Angeles Final Cut Pro User Group (http://www.lafcpug.org/nab.html) will be having Final Cut Pro Product Designer Brian Meaney and Product Manager Paul Saconne to speak and answer questions on "something super secret". Other anonymous tips have pointed to at least a Shake Update during the NAB conference.

[Zaty]

In perhaps an obvious prediction, more evidence appears to point to new product announcements at the NAB conference during the week of April 19th.

Apple has already notified the press (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/03/20040310162042.shtml) of a media event on April 18th 2004.

The invitation read:



A GIF of the invitation can be found here (http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/nabinvite.gif).

The Los Angeles Final Cut Pro User Group (http://www.lafcpug.org/nab.html) will be having Final Cut Pro Product Designer Brian Meaney and Product Manager Paul Saconne to speak and answer questions on "something super secret". Other anonymous tips have pointed to at least a Shake Update during the NAB conference.

That sounds promising! Is new software coming or do you think they would announce speed bumped PBs there? I'd say rather not.

[Gherkin]

FINALLY.

I guess I'm getting my new Powerbook sooner than I thought.

and the invintation says "See the latest Apple technology," so I think all signs point to speed bumps.

edit: the more I think about this, the more I think it might just have to do with Final Cut and some new technologies they have associated with it.

[john123]

I feel about this much like I do the really hot and scantily clad girl at the bar who is smiling just a bit *too* coyly....

I'm tired of being teased!

[Ja Di ksw]

maybe it will have to do with iTunes and the iPod. I mean, really, Apple hasn't put enough effort into those lately. They need to quit worrying so much about their computers and finally pay attention to the iPod/iTunes :rolleyes:

[goof_ball]

I doubt you'll see hardware updated at this time.
I'm betting Apple will release the next speed bumps quietly one fine Tuesday afternoon......now I just wonder which Tuesday that'll be.....

[redAPPLE]

didn't you hear the latest rumor? next tuesday is Powerbook Tuesday! ;)

[Rick Friele]

Well I'll be at NAB and am definately going to stop by Apple's booth to see what new goodies they have.

[Rick Friele]

didn't you hear the latest rumor? next tuesday is Powerbook Tuesday! ;)
No, I thought it was this Tuesday. :p

[slipper]

didn't you hear the latest rumor? next tuesday is Powerbook Tuesday! ;)
thats old news! the G6 was rumors to come out soon!

[JohnGillilan]

Are the set top box rumors still considered a possibility?? Any new info in this department?? I realize that there are a few products starting to pop up that accomplish the task of streaming music from your computer to your stereo, but none of them currently decode iTMS proctected AAC files. This is a huge problem for me as my library contains a significant amount of purchased tunes. I would definitely buy one of these if Apple released it. Any thoughts?? Would this be NAB worthy??

[the future]

Pro software, maybe PowerBooks.

[redAPPLE]

has an Apple product designer or product manager ever released new Apple products?

[BruinJohn]

MacMall has a promotion for overnight shipping on iBooks and Powerbooks for $9.95 that ends Monday night at 9 pm Pacific (12 midnight Eastern). I guess this means that they have enough of the old powerbooks to send it asap but after monday, they'll have to wait because new ones are coming....hmmmm. Oh, and UCLA is selling the 17" powerbooks for $2399. Maybe they are trying to get rid of them too. So, I'm hoping for new powerbooks soon, maybe this week, maybe next week, but hopefully before my graduation in June so I can take advantage of the student discounts. Fingers crossed!

[dloomer]

Are the set top box rumors still considered a possibility?? Any new info in this department?? I realize that there are a few products starting to pop up that accomplish the task of streaming music from your computer to your stereo, but none of them currently decode iTMS proctected AAC files. This is a huge problem for me as my library contains a significant amount of purchased tunes. I would definitely buy one of these if Apple released it. Any thoughts?? Would this be NAB worthy??

Can't answer your questions, but I'm definitely with you there John.

[aswitcher]

In perhaps an obvious prediction, more evidence appears to point to new product announcements at the NAB conference during the week of April 19th.

Apple has already notified the press (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/03/20040310162042.shtml) of a media event on April 18th 2004.

The invitation read:



A GIF of the invitation can be found here (http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/nabinvite.gif).

The Los Angeles Final Cut Pro User Group (http://www.lafcpug.org/nab.html) will be having Final Cut Pro Product Designer Brian Meaney and Product Manager Paul Saconne to speak and answer questions on "something super secret". Other anonymous tips have pointed to at least a Shake Update during the NAB conference.

That gif says something about a "Special Presentation" Sunday 11:00am...

Ok so Shake...FC Pro?...but what else would be appropriate that isn't software? New screens?

[potman]

Well lets look at the quote "Moving pictures moving sound"

Moving picture....yeah, possibly movie or literally as in moving from your computer to your tv for instance.

Moving sound.....a bit odd, how does one move sound?

I reckon the box set idea could work and possibly be true.
We have Digital hub applications, but our computer is not the best way to present them (hence TV's and stereo systems)

As all the i apps are based on moving pictures and sound (in some way)
I think this "latest technology" could be digital hub based and possibly be a box set.

Then again it could just be a picture capable ipod...
and i might be totally off the plot (of which i'm guessing i am:confused: )
just my views.

[non fiction]

It concerns me that the Apple website has had a 'filler' G5 banner on the front page for 2 weeks now. They never do this - advertise a 1 year old product...

Anyway, The future looks super bright for the G5 - powermacs and powerbooks - when they arrive, but it won't be this week.

Pro software this week me thinks.

Although, I do agree with many people regarding the Mini iPod replacing the iPod - it does everything - smaller and more refined - this leaves the iPod to become something more evolved - moving pictures, colour......

My dream product lanuch for this week.....

[Downdivx]

The Los Angeles Final Cut Pro User Group which the rumor cites as presenting Wednesday afternoon has two interesting remarks on their website.
1. In their schedule there is a TBA.
2. Their schedule is tenative until Sunday Afternoon, after the Apple news event? Conicidence? I hope not. Come on new Powermacs at NAB!

W

[The Expatriate]

I reckon its a software release, but headlined by the new colour iPod capable of MPEG4 playback - so that you can download you're fave Kylie music vid to comfort you on those long train journeys into work, bliss.

Of course, they'll need the latest iTunes software to manage all our new videos so the software would have to be launched at the same time.

Perhaps my dreams of an Apple PVR will also come true.

Perhaps even a wireless streaming dock to beam all your tunes around the house (aka, set-top-box stylee).

Perhaps even an Apple do everything 'Freeview' set-top-box - Apple TV!!!

Perhaps I'm just getting my hopes up only to be dashed, it's probably just the latest G5 PBs - nothing new there then - lol

[AppleMatt]

maybe it will have to do with iTunes and the iPod. I mean, really, Apple hasn't put enough effort into those lately. They need to quit worrying so much about their computers and finally pay attention to the iPod/iTunes :rolleyes:

Lol. I agree, but at the end of the day, I wouldn't mind seeing a nice iTunes update and perhaps a iPod software update :)

Ok so Shake...FC Pro?...but what else would be appropriate that isn't software? New screens?

I really want to see new aluminum screens from Apple, and I want them competitively priced (I know I know).

Moving sound moving pictures...I suppose it could be laptop related, or a peripheral. I bet Jobs loves doing this!

AppleMatt

[goof_ball]

It concerns me that the Apple website has had a 'filler' G5 banner on the front page for 2 weeks now. They never do this - advertise a 1 year old product...


I think the G5 is worth having on their front page. I agree it's past due that they speed bump their top-of-the-line model. We were waiting like 2 years for decent processors and they're finally here. Once IBM gets their fab running smoothly at 90nm I think we'll see many speed bumps over the next year.

[h'biki]

As much as I'd love it to be hardware, I suspect it'll be Shake 3.5 and a FCP5 preview. FCP5 is rumoured to support DVCProHD via Firewire which would be sweet :) No wonder Blackmagic is selling SDI cards for peanuts!

If it included good workgroup postflow tools, I'd be very very happy.

[wrldwzrd89]

Based on information collected from this and other rumor sites, I'm expecting PowerBook updates at NAB and PowerMac updates at WWDC (both hopefully shipping immediately). I wouldn't be surprised if some other Apple pro applications get updated at either event (I want a Keynote update to V2.0).

[Whotheheck]

Let there be a new iMac G5!!!!

I know that won't happen but it's always nice to dream, right? :)

[denm316]

All the talk with moving things around. There is that slim possibility that it may be the rumored "iBox", or whatever else they may call it that would be the "center" of the digital lifestyle.

I hope I can get one of them and a new 12 inch powerbook.

[appleface]

Well lets look at the quote "Moving pictures moving sound"

Moving picture....yeah, possibly movie or literally as in moving from your computer to your tv for instance.

Moving sound.....a bit odd, how does one move sound?

[...]

Then again it could just be a picture capable ipod...
and i might be totally off the plot (of which i'm guessing i am:confused: )
just my views.

maybe they'll even throw in one of those cell fone cams.

ps
i hope somebody comments about my spelling.

[aswitcher]

Based on information collected from this and other rumor sites, I'm expecting PowerBook updates at NAB and PowerMac updates at WWDC (both hopefully shipping immediately). I wouldn't be surprised if some other Apple pro applications get updated at either event (I want a Keynote update to V2.0).

I wish I had your confidence. I think we might see a G4PB speed and feature bump with the real deal coming out as the G5 at WWDC in just under 3 months...

[snahabed]

What on Earth would Apple introduce at NAB?

At most, Final Cut (moving picture and sound, i.e., dragging/dropping editing) and Shake updates.

Nothing to see here.

[lectro]

I believe Apple is going to announce something related to moving the FILES of pictures and sound across a network to multiple workstations. NAB is a Pro event and I don't see why Apple would choose it to announce new consumer related hardware or software. In a multiple workstation environment it is currently difficult and expensive to get the bandwidth needed to each workstation from the server.

So I see some kind of networking advance, perhaps Apples' own FibreChannel technology with new RAID array options, or something along those lines.

[carboncocoa]

I know this is off topic, but just in case anyone's reading:
WE WANT APPLEWORKS 7 ALREADY!

[CrackedButter]

I know this is off topic, but just in case anyone's reading:
WE WANT APPLEWORKS 7 ALREADY!

I agree, i want the ability to scroll inside a text window, its annoying me to death! Oh yeah, the US version can do this already, sorry for installing the UK version.

[aswitcher]

I agree, i want the ability to scroll inside a text window, its annoying me to death! Oh yeah, the US version can do this already, sorry for installing the UK version.

I am pretty sure that after January's appearance of Microsoft on stage and the imminent release of new office for mac first, that Apple have done a deal not to work on Appleworks for a few years as long as Microsoft properly support office. Furthermore I expect to see OEM Office versions shipping cheap with Apple's when it appears...

[DHagan4755]

Guys...this is a National Association of Broadcasters convention, not for consumers for broadcasters. _DH_

[CmdrLaForge]

... but headlined by the new colour iPod

For the next generation of the iPod I expect as well colors. Minis are flying of the shelfs. And the reason is mainly because they look cute.

Same for the whole consumer line. I would expect for iBooks and iMacs the return of the color. And I expect mainly the same colors as todays Minis.

For NAB I don't see PMs. There have been to many hints that professional hardware gets updated on WWDC. And because its a professional conference I don't expect consumer hardware products updated neither.

And about SHAKE. I have no idea if its a great product or not. And you know what - I don't care because its so freakin expensive that in my whole life I will not get a copy.

Maybe one day they release something like iShake. How cool would that be ?

Anyway. I am looking forward to NAB.

Cheers

[SiliconAddict]

I feel about this much like I do the really hot and scantily clad girl at the bar who is smiling just a bit *too* coyly....

I'm tired of being teased!

Amen. I just don't give a crap anymore. If something is release GREAT! Right now I'm weighing my other options for this summer.

[jihad the movie]

Perhaps they will make an iDVD 4.0.2 update, because iDVD just doesn't work for some of us Dual G5 users.

[CmdrLaForge]

I am pretty sure that after January's appearance of Microsoft on stage and the imminent release of new office for mac first, that Apple have done a deal not to work on Appleworks for a few years as long as Microsoft properly support office. Furthermore I expect to see OEM Office versions shipping cheap with Apple's when it appears...

You could be right. But I would expect that Apple is then bundeling Office with new Macs for a nice price. Which wouldn't be the worst.

On the other hand. I would really like to have an iWrite application for easy writing. Not a competitor to Word. More a blown up version of Textedit.

Easy to use like all iApps.

But what I think that someday something must happen with AppleWorks. They can't ship it forever. So either they start bundeling Office or they offer a nice and free iWorks or just a iWrite.

[aswitcher]

But what I think that someday something must happen with AppleWorks. They can't ship it forever. So either they start bundeling Office or they offer a nice and free iWorks or just a iWrite.

I also would be very happy with OEM cheap bundled Office for Mac when its released.

As for iWrite, seems like a good diea to ship a good text editor with all Macs not just the i range.

[CmdrLaForge]

As for iWrite, seems like a good diea to ship a good text editor with all Macs not just the i range.

Do I understand you right, that you think the iApps are not good products ? I think they should ship some iWrite like iDVD and have then Office like DVD pro.

So you get a good product for free and if you want and need more you can purchase it.

[Trowaman]

What on Earth would Apple introduce at NAB?

At most, Final Cut (moving picture and sound, i.e., dragging/dropping editing) and Shake updates.

Nothing to see here.

What does that mean? I'm ready to go for FCP 5. One of us hasn't had the cash/need for 4 but I'd like to see what else I could get out of that WONDERFUL program.

Anyways, sounds like Shake, it hasn't been updated in a while. FCP would be nice. As for the "moving sound", it's called Logic.

There's also DVD studio Pro, but I doubt that one . . .

The reason I say FCP is a possibility is this is Broadcasters, as in the news, the don't have much of a need for Shake. They can get a Toaster and just put up some tiny graphics and be just happy. Editing, something they need to do everyday, constantly. A program is needed that they can quickly edit many packages on every day and that program is FCP.

[Rasmuskl]

No, I thought it was this Tuesday. :p

I heard a fairly confident rumor from a reliable source that a G5 PB rumor will be announced on Tuesday.

[eric_n_dfw]

Maybe moving sound == multi-chanel surround sound tools or plugins for FCP and/or DVDSP.

FWIW: I hope the have some kind of free upgrades to FCP 4 as opposed to a paid FCP 5 upgrade. I just bought it Dec 31st and don't want to upgrade again too fast! :)

[vanmonkey]

hello final cut five!

[eric_n_dfw]

Do I understand you right, that you think the iApps are not good products ? I think they should ship some iWrite like iDVD and have then Office like DVD pro.

So you get a good product for free and if you want and need more you can purchase it.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but the Text Edit application is, basically, what peole are calling for in an "iWrite" app. Heck, the thing even edits non-complex Word documents.

[denm316]

If Apple does announce a hardware update, I do not believe it will be major, perhaps some speed bumps in the G4 PB's, and perhaps Final Cut and Shake Updates.

[aswitcher]

For the next generation of the iPod I expect as well colors. Minis are flying of the shelfs. And the reason is mainly because they look cute.

Same for the whole consumer line. I would expect for iBooks and iMacs the return of the color. And I expect mainly the same colors as todays Minis.



If Apple could produce ibooks and imacs with exchangable covering plates like the mobile phone market has adopted I think they would be on a winner for personalised hardware just like the phone market has developed. Not sure how easy it would be to do, messy screws etc, but I think it would allow for everything from a corporate look to student to artist etc

[aswitcher]

Do I understand you right, that you think the iApps are not good products ? I think they should ship some iWrite like iDVD and have then Office like DVD pro.

So you get a good product for free and if you want and need more you can purchase it.

No I think iApps are good products.

I dont think they will ship anything that looks like a serious alternative to
Microsoft Office. I suggest thats part of the deal to keep Microsoft onside.

I think they could get away with a good word processor bundled into Macs like Appleworks is for the i line, but they need to keep it as non-threatneing as possible to Microsoft because if it performed near as good as word then Microsoft would have its Mac makret threatened because thats why most people would own office.

[robbieduncan]

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but the Text Edit application is, basically, what peole are calling for in an "iWrite" app. Heck, the thing even edits non-complex Word documents.

I mostly agree. The only real missing feature in TextEdit is some sort of basic table ability. With that added it would be good enough for most users.

[centauratlas]

maybe it will have to do with iTunes and the iPod. I mean, really, Apple hasn't put enough effort into those lately. They need to quit worrying so much about their computers and finally pay attention to the iPod/iTunes :rolleyes:

very funny!

I bet we see the PB G4 speed bumps, and some PM speedbumps. Then at WWDC we see the big updates which will ship like last year's WWDC items did. Perhaps they'll surprise, but I will believe it only when I see it. :)

[redAPPLE]

Well lets look at the quote "Moving pictures moving sound"

Moving picture....yeah, possibly movie or literally as in moving from your computer to your tv for instance.

Moving sound.....a bit odd, how does one move sound?



say, iPod

[pkradd]

NAB is a "pro" show. There will be no hardware announcement related in any way to consumers. Anyway, this bit of information was widely published on the internet about a month ago. Nothing new here I'm afraid.

[Trowaman]

Let me just say, let's not look too much into it. In fact, I would bet very heavily AGAINST any sort of new hardware unless it is something new designed for media, which I would still bet against, just not heavily.

This will be a Pro Software camp, nothing more.

[choogheem]

Sweet, the dodecahedron is finally set to be released. :D
No doubt we'll see that 3.0 GHz speed bump, in the iMac no less. :eek:
Wait, wait. I've got it. Apple is introducing a neural interface. (you want wireless - you got it) :p
One of these days these rumors have to come to fruition and the speed bumps, video cards and 8x dvd-r will come. :rolleyes:

[StudioGuy]

I agree we're not likely to see much at NAB. Of course there's a nice press release, they're going aren't they? Gotta make the most of shows.

I suspect at most there might be some software update to make things a bit easier for video folks.

New HW would be a dream...hopefuly we'll get to wake up this summer. :rolleyes:

[Bhennies]

Powerbooks tommorrow!

[JaxMac]

"Moving pictures. Moving sound. Moving the industry. Please join Apple for a special presentation at NAB 2004 to see the latest Apple technology."

Hmmm.... sounds like a portable Apple Pippin :)

[fussball]

It is sad to see the entire apple hardware line, save xserves and iPods, listed in the macrumors buyer's guide as either "don't buy- updates soon" or "buy only if you need it" I have been dying for a 12in PB since December, but refuse to buy one with the useless video card it has.. I have had to suffer through the cruddy card on my iBook for 2 years, and I am not going to update to another anemic card!

all I am saying is apple, show me the powerbooks!

[macridah]

would it be weak if they meant an upgrade to "SHAKE" was the apple technology that would be "Moving pictures. Moving sound. Moving the industry." Get it ... shake-moving ... I hope this is not the case.

[Stella]

if SJ isn't there, then we can forget about any New Apple computers / or new piece of hardware... SJ wouldn't let anyone else announce this...
(except unexciting Upgraded PB G4 perhaps..)

Its gonna be boring software ( boring for non audio-philes)...

New Video Pods would be great, but again, no SJ, no totally new hardware

[appleface]

This will be a Pro Software camp, nothing more.

agreed.

[cait-sith]

it'd be a great time to bump most of their hardware, since they're nearing the end/past the magic six month mark. they could do it as an aside:

Introducing iLatteMaker 04/18/04! Perfect for iCoffeeMachine!

(And to meet minimum requirements, we're updating our imacs! :D) - mumbled into the microphone.

dual g5 emac anyone??? :eek: no??? :(

[wuntrikpony]

FCP5, DVDSP 3 or 2.5, Logic 7(possibly re-branded)

what I am looking for is an Apple brand hardware control surface for FCP & Logic.

[Some_Big_Spoon]

Grasping at straws here people..

[thogs_cave]

It is sad to see the entire apple hardware line, save xserves and iPods, listed in the macrumors buyer's guide as either "don't buy- updates soon" or "buy only if you need it" I have been dying for a 12in PB since December, but refuse to buy one with the useless video card it has.. I have had to suffer through the cruddy card on my iBook for 2 years, and I am not going to update to another anemic card!

When I bought my Dual 2.0GHz G5 back in October, I was told, "Wait for the second generation", and "why buy that, it'll be obsolete in a couple of months."

Well, I've had it over 6 months now, and they've been six months of fast, totally trouble-free computing. I'm not worried about being "obsolete", as I still use my older Macs (like my Quadra 840AV and a couple of IIci's) for several tasks.

My advice? If it does what you want, buy it, enjoy it, and use it.

[geerlingguy]

Moving sound.....a bit odd, how does one move sound?

Well, some of use use air as a medium... Others use water... I didn't think it was that hard to move sound. :D

[QuiteSure]

Walter Murch edited Cold Mountain using G4 PMs. Is there anybody on this board who really thinks that they HAVE to wait for the new PMs? For what? the Dual 2.0s are great. I doubt anyone here will truly notice the difference between the 2.0s and whatever Apple will release next.

Worst thing Jobs ever did was promising 3 ghz w/in 12 mos.

[iriejedi]

thats old news! the G6 was rumors to come out soon!

Ever since the 'flop' with the G4's Apple has or will official switche to using only Prime numbers in future itterations. This is mainly to battle the market share that Dell has optained with its Optiplex (shortened original name from Optimus PRIME) series or BTO boxes.

So the logicly after the G3 and G5 the NEXT mac will be the G7.

:eek:

(Note the early PPC macs i.e. G1 and G2's were also PRIME numbers - this fact alone gives my Rumor creedence!)

Viva La Rumor!

[Rex44]

I have a 2 year old iBook with a hard drive that's just about to pack it in, and need to buy a replacement machine post-haste. I really wanted to move up and buy a Powerbook, but there's absolutely no way I would consider buying what is last year's hardware at today's premium prices.

Since we likely are not going to see updates until sometime around the WWDC (end of June/beginning of July -- assuming they actually ship whenever they announce them), why on earth don't they lower prices on their current line-up in the interim, so at least there is some reasonableness to their offerings?? Their hardware just doesn't compete at the moment.

[edgar_is_good]

I feel about this much like I do the really hot and scantily clad girl at the bar who is smiling just a bit *too* coyly....

I'm tired of being teased!

In both cases, we have no one to blame but our own imagination...

[edgar_is_good]

Ever since the 'flop' with the G4's Apple has or will official switche to using only Prime numbers in future itterations. This is mainly to battle the market share that Dell has optained with its Optiplex (shortened original name from Optimus PRIME) series or BTO boxes.

So the logicly after the G3 and G5 the NEXT mac will be the G7.

:eek:

(Note the early PPC macs i.e. G1 and G2's were also PRIME numbers - this fact alone gives my Rumor creedence!)

Viva La Rumor!

1 isn't a prime number. Sorry.

[JohnGillilan]

I believe Apple is going to announce something related to moving the FILES of pictures and sound across a network to multiple workstations. NAB is a Pro event and I don't see why Apple would choose it to announce new consumer related hardware or software. In a multiple workstation environment it is currently difficult and expensive to get the bandwidth needed to each workstation from the server.

So I see some kind of networking advance, perhaps Apples' own FibreChannel technology with new RAID array options, or something along those lines.

I think you're on to something. For a long time, Avid was the major player in the post-production movement of metadeta and large files of this sort between workstations with thier OMF format. However, as I understand, there were some serious issues with this technology. There is an organization known as the AAF Association (aafassociation.org). The Advanced Authoring Format (AAF) is unique in that no one owns the rights to the technology. Although based on the OMF infrastructure (again, as I understand), the AAF association is a open source community funded by many corporations -- including Apple!!! (+ Avid, Adobe, Time Warner, Microsoft, and many many more)

What is AAF?? (from FAQ):
The Advanced Authoring Format (AAF) is a professional file interchange format designed for the post production and authoring environment. AAF solves the problem of multi-vendor, cross-platform interoperability for computer-based digital production. AAF does a number of things. 1) it allows complex relationships to be described in terms of an object model, 2) it facilitates the interchange of metadata and/or program content, 3) it provides a way to track the history of a piece of program content from its source elements through final production, 4) it makes it possible to render downstream (with appropriate equipment), 5) it provides a convenient way to "wrap" all elements of a project together for archiving. By preserving comprehensive source referencing, and abstracting the creative decisions that are made, AAF improves workflow and simplifies project management.

With Apple's focus on server technology over the last couple of years, I could definitely see a new piece of hardware to go alongside the xServe and xServe RAID that embraces this technology. Apparently, AAF is the future of post-production and it is emerging NOW. If Apple wishes to remain serious within their pro video niche, I feel like this is a strong possibility at NAB, especially b/c AAF is going to be a hot topic at the conference.

[iriejedi]

1 isn't a prime number. Sorry.

Yeah well in the big picture those wore the 60x series

And the 601 (G1) models were rather weak
compared to the 604s (G2) (I've chosen to ignore the 603's what a waste of a die).

So given how all the other update rumors are getting old - this "1", prime or not debate could be the hottest thread since the March 23rd rumor!

:p

IJ

[hsilver]

It's unlikely that Apple would waste NAB on something as generic and as big as Powerbook or PowerMac upgrades. It's a broadcast tradeshow. Even for a set-top box or new ipod -it's not the best venue. I think it will be Final Cut or other audio/video software upgrades that are presented. The competitors for those products will all have new products there. Maybe a 30" HD Display -NAB would be a good place to build excitement for anything to do with HD at an affordable price. (For a true HD monitor $4,000 is 'affordable").

The main thrust at NAB this year from other companies announcements will be affordable HD technology.

[Rustus Maximus]

It will quite possibly be some sort of file management as someone posted earlier or even file distribution system that debuts here. Remember they licensed the name XSAN not too long ago. That coupled with the announcement by ATTO of a 4GB Fibre Channel gizmo-mabob (yes...gizmo-mabob) points to something like this being the focus of their super secret NAB event.

As for pro upgrades...I think Shake 3.5 is solid to come out but I just can't see them releasing a Final Cut Pro 5 this soon after 4. I just can't see them announcing major upgrades to their backbone pro apps like FCP and DVD Studio Pro until the new PowerMacs and PowerBooks are announced. I among the foolish hopefuls that this will be one of the announcements they make at NAB...but June won't be too bad of a wait if its WWDC instead.

[hsilver]

Also, for those who worry that it might only mean a Shake upgrade, the announcement promises "Moving Pictures, Moving Sound". Shake has nothing to do with audio.

[arobasefr]

What on Earth would Apple introduce at NAB?

At most, Final Cut (moving picture and sound, i.e., dragging/dropping editing) and Shake updates.

Nothing to see here.

SHAKE 3.5 It's good enough for NAB, No ?
Apple has to convince the video professionnels after Pixar switch to G5.
Comming allong with updates of Bi-G5 at at least 2,6 Ghz !
Looking forward to NAB's Apple special 11 AM april 18th
http://www.videomac.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=802

[Spades]

Sorry to rain on everybody's parade, but couldn't they just be doing a presentation on how to use Apple products in general in broadcasting, and not announcing any specific new products? The invitation only suggest a simple presentation to me.

[klaus]

It will quite possibly be some sort of file management as someone posted earlier or even file distribution system that debuts here. Remember they licensed the name XSAN not too long ago. That coupled with the announcement by ATTO of a 4GB Fibre Channel gizmo-mabob (yes...gizmo-mabob) points to something like this being the focus of their super secret NAB event.

As for pro upgrades...I think Shake 3.5 is solid to come out but I just can't see them releasing a Final Cut Pro 5 this soon after 4. I just can't see them announcing major upgrades to their backbone pro apps like FCP and DVD Studio Pro until the new PowerMacs and PowerBooks are announced. I among the foolish hopefuls that this will be one of the announcements they make at NAB...but June won't be too bad of a wait if its WWDC instead.

They will not announce FCP 5, because at WWDC, there will be a session regarding FCP 4, and also DVD studio pro 2

http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/descriptions/

[Rustus Maximus]

They will not announce FCP 5, because at WWDC, there will be a session regarding FCP 4, and also DVD studio pro 2

http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/descriptions/

Good eye klaus...of course the age of this web page then comes into question and they can always update a page in seconds ;) but I agree with you...I don't think FCP 5 will happen.

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"All hands...prepare for warp speed!"

It's gonna be a fun next few months :D

[wdlove]

When I bought my Dual 2.0GHz G5 back in October, I was told, "Wait for the second generation", and "why buy that, it'll be obsolete in a couple of months."

Well, I've had it over 6 months now, and they've been six months of fast, totally trouble-free computing. I'm not worried about being "obsolete", as I still use my older Macs (like my Quadra 840AV and a couple of IIci's) for several tasks.

My advice? If it does what you want, buy it, enjoy it, and use it.

I'm pleased to hear that you have had more that six months of enjoyment from your G5. With you vast array of Mac's are you folding or have you thought about folding? ;)

[Thor74]

Apple software will get bumps.. Shake & FCP, etc... Would be surprised for ANY hardware launches.

[DMann]

I also believe we'll be going straight for
3 ghz at WWDC. But let's not completely
rule out this possibility....................

If Apple were to consider releasing a
2.5 ghz speed-bump on a Tuesday,
why not make it a Tuesday which
could attract attention for professional
broadcasters? :rolleyes:

Then again, if it doesn't happen, by the
time this passes, it will be only two
months until WWDC.... where we will
hear announcements at the very least. :p

[Trowaman]

They will not announce FCP 5, because at WWDC, there will be a session regarding FCP 4, and also DVD studio pro 2

http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/descriptions/

Thank you for finding this, much abliged.

[klaus]

If nab doesn't bring us updates (which I think will happen, :( ) Then we'll all have to wait until WWDC, which will kick ass!

I've been watching the 2003 keynote's this afternoon, and can't wait to see the new one live! (june 28th)

If it is WWDC: then it will almost be a full year with no updates to powermacs and other hardware configs from apple( iMac, Powerbook, Ibook)

But if powermacs are due for wwdc, I suspect it will be with immediate availability, because they can't make it to announce them, and have another 2-3 months shipping delay, after waiting for almost a year to update them..

So i guess they are trying to make it right, to make it huge, to make it a super wwdc!

[invaLPsion]

Does anybody know that Apple is having a 1 hour and 15 minute presentation on the 18th at NAB?

I wonder who will be presenting?

http://nab2004.itechit.com/

[invaLPsion]

In an attempt to stay optimistic I would like to say that Apple could release a small powermac update at NAB with lowered prices and still jump to 3GHz at WWDC...

[brooklyn]

I want a new iSight with Pan, Tilt and Zoom and Remote Access. Also a new and more powerful 12" Powerbook. Apple... make it happen! I have spoken.

[LaMerVipere]

I just want an update, ANY update to the PowerBooks by the time fall comes around, i would sell my first born (if i had one :p) for a PowerBook G5 12"...mmm yummy.

But now back to reality.

That's never going to happen, so I would at least love the 12" to go to 1.25GHz and the 15" to go to 1.33 at least, because I am getting a PowerBook for college no matter what, I love my iBook G4, and it's way better than the Rev A. PB G4 12" I used to have, it's just nowhere near as sexy. ;)

But if an iMac G5 rolled around before then, I might consider ditching my lappy for an aluminum iMac with say a 1.6GHz G5 in it. :)

[Rustus Maximus]

But if powermacs are due for wwdc, I suspect it will be with immediate availability, because they can't make it to announce them, and have another 2-3 months shipping delay, after waiting for almost a year to update them...

I think they have to make these updates immediately available and I would suspect that is the business model Apple is striving for. They are in this to make money...they make the most money by keeping their customers happy and doing their best to meet their customer's wants. I'm quite sure that Apple doesn't like the "3 months after announcement" phenomenon anymore than the Mac faithful do and they are striving to change that. This delay could be a direct result of that new philosophy.

[agreenster]

I guess I'll believe it when I see it

[Borg3of5]

This is definitely a 4G iPod. With the recent rumors surrounding the 4G iPod having a 2" color display for videos, etc, this is what Apple will be introducing...

...unless, of course, it's speedbumped G4's.

[markjones05]

I think the most needed thing is new hardware.
The coolest thing would be new color ipods with video.
And the most uneeded and boring thing would be FCP 5 or any software updates.

[MacRAND]

This is definitely a 4G iPod.
With the recent rumors surrounding the 4G iPod having a 2" color display for videos, etc, this is what Apple will be introducing...Yes. That makes sense.
COLOR screen iPod
How about surround sound
beyond mere stereo?

[Punkwaffle]

In addition to all the speculation about the new iPod/Media Center what-not, has anyone considered that Apple may talk or show Tiger for the first time.

Even if it only gets a brief mention, it will be compelling to see what the future holds. My prediction: Apple over the next 1.5 years gets all their desktops and notebook/palmbooks on G5. Release Tiger which will ONLY run on G5 and blow everybody's minds with a slew of creativity and network enhancing software/hardware.

Then again, they could announce their resignation in the "tech sector" and sell cancerous pesticides to small, hungry children...

[Doctor Q]

Well lets look at the quote "Moving pictures moving sound"

Moving picture....yeah, possibly movie or literally as in moving from your computer to your tv for instance.

Moving sound.....a bit odd, how does one move sound?Any kind of video is moving pictures, so "moving pictures" doesn't tell us much. And "moving sound" could simply be a play on words, as in music that moves you. So, essentially, that slogan could refer to anything to do with audio/video, even if it was simply a new version of QuickTime.

[Stella]

Yes. That makes sense.
COLOR screen iPod
How about surround sound
beyond mere stereo?

Colour iPod would be very useful. I'd really like an ipod where I could sync my iPhoto collection to iPod.

Also, videos ... a lot of cellphones (especially smartphones) now support movies...

If Apple could keep the price down on any such (video) iPod, I'm sure it would be a killer. Apple could market Video iPod along with iPod and minis.. not everyone wants video, and some want a small iPod.

[thrillz3]

All I have to say is that if they upgrade the iPods before they upgrade any computer hardware, I'm just going to go sit in the corner and cry.

On a lighter note, would I be correct in assuming that upgrades to most (if not all) of the computers will happen before or at WWDC? I'm going to get an iMac as soon as school's over, but I am not going to get the current models. I'm hoping I'll be able to get one as soon as, or right after June 23. (I know WWDC is the 28th.) I hope they ship instantly...

[Stewie]

Since everyone else seems to have a guess I will throw mine into the ring as well.

No new Powerbooks, (at least not G5's anyway)
Speed bumps for the ibooks and Powermacs.

[patriotn11]

Apple announced today that they have plans to participate at the NAB (National Association of Broadcasters) conference in April.

Of more interest, in a media invitation, Apple writes:
Moving pictures. Moving sound. Moving the industry. Please join Apple for a special presentation at NAB 2004 to see the latest Apple technology

The special event is to be held on April 18, 2004. While one recent Page 2 rumor hinted at an "upcoming device" at the NAB show in April, this may simply be a demonstration of existing products or software upgrades.
Rating (100 Positives; 31 Negatives)

These are Apples (2) booths at the NAB and the booth sizes:

BOOTH SL3660 is 90 feet x 100 feet :eek:
BOOTH SL4054 is 50 feet x 50 feet :eek:
I don't know Jack about Mac but I'm learning and this is alot of space for :confused: those that think nothing is coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

[Stewie]

Colour iPod would be very useful. I'd really like an ipod where I could sync my iPhoto collection to iPod.

Also, videos ... a lot of cellphones (especially smartphones) now support movies...

If Apple could keep the price down on any such (video) iPod, I'm sure it would be a killer. Apple could market Video iPod along with iPod and minis.. not everyone wants video, and some want a small iPod.

Yeah but would you want to watch a video on your cell phone? SJ has said and I agree that people treat video different then audio. I can do other things while listening to music on my iPod (Walking, driving, sitting in a class) but you can't do the same with Video. If just won't be the killer app that every seems to think it is.

As for the color screen, that need is not there yet either. It would be nice, but it would kill the battery life, which most folks will agree is not where is should be yet. Once the industry can increase battery life, then will we see color screens.

And you can copy you iPhoto collection to an iPod now, so that is not really an issue, is it?

[nuckinfutz]

Announcing new Hardware Product(ie Powermacs, Powerbooks etc) makes absolutely no sense.

NAB is for professionals that are interested in new products to help further their careers. While new Mac hardware would fit into that description the focus of the even is the multiplicity of Hardware/Software for broadcasting. Thus, Apple would be proverbially "shooting themselves in the foot" by announcing new machines that wouldn't elicit any excitement at NAB. Despite the success of Final Cut Pro, Avid still rules the roost. Which means many NAB patrons are on PCs.

Worst kept secret right now is Shake 3.5. That's a given.

DVD Studio Pro should be revved. I'd like to see compressor improvements. Support for DTS and general sweetening.

Final Cut Pro- This should be updated. A worthy upgrade would be. Multicam. HDV Support. Soundtrack/Livetype 2. Panny HD50 support. And generally product Sweetening.

Logic- I'd love to see version 7 hit with the new apps(Guitar Amp, Ultrabeat and Sculpture). I'd also love to see more support for Multichannel production and more audio editing features(Waveburner integrated).

That woud rock.

[MacFan25]

I'd say that these "new products" will be professional software, Shake 3.5, maybe a new version of Final Cut Pro?, etc. But, I don't think there will be any new hardware.

It just doesn't seem like the place to announce something like that. Though maybe we will be surprised.

[~Shard~]

I'd say that these "new products" will be professional software, Shake 3.5, maybe a new version of Final Cut Pro?, etc. But, I don't think there will be any new hardware.

It just doesn't seem like the place to announce something like that. Though maybe we will be surprised.

I agree - especially with Shake 3.5 being announced (presumably), I can't see any hardware updates - it really does not seem like the appropriate venue for such announcements.

[aswitcher]

These are Apples (2) booths at the NAB and the booth sizes:

BOOTH SL3660 is 90 feet x 100 feet :eek:
BOOTH SL4054 is 50 feet x 50 feet :eek:
I don't know Jack about Mac but I'm learning and this is alot of space for :confused: those that think nothing is coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

Thats a fair amount of space. Good sign for new stuff I hope.

[applekid]

Moving pictures. Moving sound. Moving the industry.

I outta beat myself up for even thinking about the possibility of this, but here it goes: iPod DV.

The iPod is mobile. It already moves sound. But will it now move pictures, too? It would require a whole new design though. I definitely don't want to watch anything on such a small screen.

But it does say "moving the industry," so I suspect some sort of mobile device for the movie industry that can do editing on the run ("Moving pictures. Moving sound"), not us regular consumers.

Of course that could also mean updates to some of the Macs, or at least the PowerBooks.

But NAB doesn't seem to be the place for such an announcement.

My head hurts. :confused:

[aswitcher]

I outta beat myself up for even thinking about the possibility of this, but here it goes: iPod DV.

SNIP


I think if Apple comes out with an iPod DV at the NAB there will be a lot of people pretty upset that this 20th Anniversary year of the mac, has become the year Apple switched from computers to music/video.

If they had all their lines updated I would be happy with such innovation, but until then I wonder how far Apple has got distracted from its core hardware... :(

[TRiPod]

Apple CANNOT release new 'pods at NAB! They haven't even started shipping mini's to all the countries yet!

[fucanay]

I think that an update to Logic is close. Apple demoed some new things at the NAMM show in January that have yet to be released. Being that Logic is a great scoring tool, I think that an announcment at NAB is not a far stretch.

Also, there was rumors (not reported here) a while back about another pro audio application that is supposed to complement Logic. And I've heard form a few sources who know people within Apple, that this is in existance. Although, I haven't heard a thing about it recently.

Also, also, Garageband, while not a pro app, is in need of an update as well to take care of the CPU load issues. Maybe that'll come there too?

MF

[Rod Rod]

DVD Studio Pro should be revved. I'd like to see compressor improvements. Support for DTS and general sweetening.

Final Cut Pro- This should be updated. A worthy upgrade would be. Multicam. HDV Support. Soundtrack/Livetype 2. Panny HD50 support. And generally product Sweetening.

HDV support for FCP 4 is already coming at NAB, but not from Apple. LumiereHD is releasing its plugin, which will allow HDV editing in FCP complete with TS export back to the camera. It costs $179, with a $149 show special.

www.lumierehd.com

[MacRAND]

I think if Apple comes out with an iPod DV at the NAB there will be a lot of people pretty upset that this 20th Anniversary year of the mac, has become the year Apple switched from computers to music/video.
If they had all their lines updated I would be happy with such innovation, but until then I wonder how far Apple has got distracted from its core hardware... :(For the last decade or so, PC boxes have usually required the addition of a "sound card" just to have AUDIO, while
Apple has consistently made sound and audio an integral part of every Mac.

At the end of the last millennium, APPLE utilized its natural GUI to expand 2d images to 3d graphics, and progressed into animation (moving pictures).
Video compliments Audio. Doesn't that sound like a natural progression on a Mac, indeed on any computer?

Apple pioneered the SuperDrive and burning DVD discs with a computer as specialized software - iApps.
Editing movies is now common place on Macs, as is burning iMovies to DVD.

iMovies have soundtracks, MUSIC is integral to soundtracks.
APPLE buys LOGIC and expands its interest and investment in Audio / Sound / Music.

Apple sees the future in making MP3 files of Music legally available digitally through iTunes and for sale at the Apple Music store.
To be fair to non-Mac users (and to make more money), Apple expands availability for legally downloadable digital Music to PC people.

Apple's Newton was the first significant PDA - ahead of its time.

iPod is the first, best and most successful PMA (Personal Music Assistant) making good use of Apple's FireWire technology, iTunes, the Music store, MP3, and miniaturization of a multi-GB hard drive.
iPod is dependent on the Mac computer.

Apple is actively fulfilling its stated goal of being at the heart of the Digital Hub with a Mac in the middle (hub) and the iPod, digital still cameras, camcorders, webcams, printers, scanners, external hard drives, thumb drives, memory cards and lots of other peripherals effortlessly interconnected - plug & play.

And yet, a few people constantly bitch & moan about Apple's success in exploring and appropriately exploiting Audio and Video on a computer because some of the sound is Music?

What's wrong with such people?
Why are they so
anti-GarageBand
anti-Logic
anti-Soundtrack
anti-Music Soundtracks
anti-Audio (especially digital optical IN/OUT ports)
anti-iChat
anti-iChatAV
anti-iSight
anti-iTunes
anti-Apple Music Store
anti-iPhoto

Is this "anti-everything else" the product of too much iGaming?

Exploiting Audio & Video is not a distraction for Apple, it's a MacEnhancement!

As my little sister loves to say, "GET A LIFE".
Better yet - Get an iLife!

If you don't like Apple hardware & software products - go get Gateway, but hurry, before they close their stores.
Switch to PC and buy yourself a Rio and a 7.1 SoundBlaster card of your choice.

You certainly are not a proper part of the MacFamily.

And one more thing - a statement that Apple's success in exploiting MUSIC / AUDIO / VIDEO will make a "lot of people pretty upset" is pure BULL, and makes me mad as Hades.

Negative whining gamers do not make up a "lot of people" on Mac or PC, and they certainly do NOT speak for the vast majority of loyal Apple people who are enthusiastic about everything Mac. ;) (Including the CUBE!)

Please stop whining about Apple's success, and stop trying to speak for anyone else but yourself and the miserable minority of unhappy, power hungry gamers. :mad:

Other than that, we love you :D
Just stop WHINING and being so negative!

[THX1965]

To all those who think if they don't see new PowerMacs, PowerBooks or iPods at NAB, the event on April 18 is going to be a big bore - NAB is for video and broadcast pros and any news regarding FCP is big news for us!

FCP hasn't been updated in quite some time (I mean small updates like 4.1.1) - I think we are going to see at least a preview of version 4.5 at NAB. Apple won't let this one yearly opportunity slip and not take FCP a step further. The AVID people are not asleep either and FCP has some catching up to do in certain areas.

I also think Apple is giving us a sneak preview of their own SAN system (XSAN!). AVID has (the expensive but well working) UNITY, but Apple right now has nothing to share media between FCP stations. Apple is very much aware of that situation, since it's a huge complaint among prfessional FCP users. It's a much needed step to take FCP from a single (semi-pro) workplace solution to a networked (truely) "pro" application that can be used at TV stations, post production houses, by feature film editors and anyone else who has to share media between two or more Final Cut Pro systems.

In addition to that I am hoping that the new version of FCP also has a built-in capability to share projects between networked FCP stations. AVID projects can be shared beautifully, FCP project files can't - at least not yet.

I am expecting this year's NAB to be a crucial stepping stone for FCP and its future acceptance in the professional editing world.

[powerofthekiwi]

I wish I had your confidence. I think we might see a G4PB speed and feature bump with the real deal coming out as the G5 at WWDC in just under 3 months...

no update for 9 months

no update for 9 more months

another update only 3 months later? I don't think so...

If apple releases an updated iPod before it updates its pro line I'm gonna snap!!! Well, not really....

[powerofthekiwi]

I also would be very happy with OEM cheap bundled Office for Mac when its released.

As for iWrite, seems like a good diea to ship a good text editor with all Macs not just the i range.

They already make a basic text editor for jotting down notes, stickies!

[potman]

Well possibly the optical digital audio in/out ports on the G5 may have something to do with this.

There was a page 2 rumor that stated a principle linked with the optical digital audio out port would be announced soon.
Not only does this tie in with "Moving pictures, moving sound" (software compatibility and possibly a hardware utility to do with the optical digital audio in/out). Which would be great to announce at NAB.
Oh and why not throw in some G5/powerbook updates to please the crowd.

I mean the optical digital audio system is nice to have on the G5 but why have it built in (rather than the choice to upgrade with a card) as very few people use it?

Then again maybe just Shake three and a new version of Logic......who knows.

[potman]

This is a bit off topic but the US Apple store is down......
Here come the power books!!!

EDIT:
Ok only new emacs, go back to the discussion and your daily lives citizens....[sigh]

[mig]

Cool, finally an ipod with oled display (very low on power consumption), 80 GB storage and a new standard for movies (mpeg 5?), which compresses a 2 hours movie to the size of a banana. And they sell matrix through the itunes store, and all other great movies, we ever wanted to watch...

And then a few PBG5's with oled display as well, which boosts the battery up to 8 hours.

We will be all happy as Steve saved our year. The pessimistic atmosphere in this forum the last weeks made me quite depressive. Was thinking about switching to PC already...

[Zaty]

With the new eMac, faster PBs and iMacs must be around the corner! (both maxing out at 1.5 GHz) I'm looking forward to Sunday :)

[iJack]

I outta beat myself up for even thinking about the possibility of this, but here it goes: iPod DV.

Well...maybe something like it. A portable FireWire drive that hooks on to a DV camera, records without tape in the camera and digitizes on the fly. Something very much like MCE's superb QuickStream DV drive, which works wonderfully with FCP. Package this with an Apple-produced field monitor in the range of 7-10" with a native 16:9 ratio and I'm there! No tape. The camera is not even running - what the lense sees, the FW drive records! With such a rig, your camera would last forever. And talk about plug and play.

The QuickStream is expensive ($600 for 1 1/2 hours - $1,000 for 6 hours) and field monitors are outrageously expensive. It may not be what they are going to introduce, but one dream. :p

[appleface]

would NAB be a good place to unveil OSX 64? does anyone know where apple is in the development and/or what enhancements would be apparent to the consumer?

[Nny]

would NAB be a good place to unveil OSX 64? does anyone know where apple is in the development and/or what enhancements would be apparent to the consumer?

It's already fact that OS X 10.4 will be announced at WWDC. That's tradition now. As far as OS X going 64-bit, I am going to guess NOT YET. Probably a lot more 64-bit optimization though. With the bigger and bigger weight of an OS X install Apple will possibly move to DVD installation discs.

[Downdivx]

Well...maybe something like it. A portable FireWire drive that hooks on to a DV camera, records without tape in the camera and digitizes on the fly. Something very much like MCE's superb QuickStream DV drive, which works wonderfully with FCP. Package this with an Apple-produced field monitor in the range of 7-10" with a native 16:9 ratio and I'm there! No tape. The camera is not even running - what the lense sees, the FW drive records! With such a rig, your camera would last forever. And talk about plug and play.

The QuickStream is expensive ($600 for 1 1/2 hours - $1,000 for 6 hours) and field monitors are outrageously expensive. It may not be what they are going to introduce, but one dream. :p

Personally, I always thought something like this wouldn't be too hard to create, minus the field monitor (which should be coming out of your analog video out anyways). It seems to me that it could be a software solution. The firewire signal coming out of a camera is recorded natively, there's no processing needed. So an Ipod would just need to write the incoming data to disk. Ipods should be able to maintain DV's 25mb/s. So it seems to me this isn't a profitalbe product for Apple, but someone could write a third party software to handle it.

would NAB be a good place to unveil OSX 64? does anyone know where apple is in the development and/or what enhancements would be apparent to the consumer?

Again, NAB is a professional forum. If OSX 64 was launched at NAB, it would be presented as a performance increase for professionals. FCP4 has already been 64 bit optimized. It looks pretty certain that Shake will be updated, so a 64 bit optimized version seems pretty likely.

[rockinralf]

Well, some of use use air as a medium... Others use water... I didn't think it was that hard to move sound. :D

SOUND is the perception of a physical event...that of vibrations transmitted through a medium & impinging upon our biosensors (ears!). Moving "sound" is as easy as moving your head, which is where this perception occurs.

BTW-most likely NAB/Apple will update FCP & Shake. Probably a decimal rather than integer rev for both...FCP really needs 5.1 audio support (Moving Sound!) and better connectivity between workstations...a SAN solution would be VERY welcome. The surround update could ripple-through SoundTrack to become a really powerfull scoring & mixing tool for video editors.

just a thought from the almost green MN north.

[rdowns]

It's already fact that OS X 10.4 will be announced at WWDC. That's tradition now. As far as OS X going 64-bit, I am going to guess NOT YET. Probably a lot more 64-bit optimization though. With the bigger and bigger weight of an OS X install Apple will possibly move to DVD installation discs.

Way too soon for 64 bit. Most of their line is still G4. As for DVD install discs, much of the installed base couldn't use them. Maybe in 2005 or 6.

[Archi-tech]

What's coming at NAB?

An Apple version of the ROKU unit, what else?!?

http://www.rokulabs.com/

Except the Apple unit will be able to distribute iMovie files. Not in HD, at least not yet.

The little birdie told me> :rolleyes:

MB

[PowerMacMan]

I'd say a lot of software updates, and at least one hardware upgrade... Just an idea! :o

[wdlove]

Way too soon for 64 bit. Most of their line is still G4. As for DVD install discs, much of the installed base couldn't use them. Maybe in 2005 or 6.

I don't see why Apple couldn't change to a CD and DVD install version of 10.4. The CD would be specifically for G4 Mac's. The DVD would be for the G5, then they could also offer 64 bit. If Apple moves to 64 bit OS software then it will encourage developers to create 64 bit compatability software. What better place to announce this strategy than at WWDC in June.

[appleface]

it seems like apple would release a roku gadget soon. it feels like the next step.

i dream of apple announcing a buy out of oqo.com. that would be rad. they'd have to rename it as "vPod" or something appley like that. i haven't thought of a slogan for it, but i'm sure steve's crew would come up with something snazzy. maybe, "the world's most powerful handtop computer."

[LaMerVipere]

it seems like apple would release a roku gadget soon. it feels like the next step.

i dream of apple announcing a buy out of oqo.com. that would be rad. they'd have to rename it as "vPod" or something appley like that. i haven't thought of a slogan for it, but i'm sure steve's crew would come up with something snazzy. maybe, "the world's most powerful handtop computer."

That OQO handheld computer is INCREDIBLE, and designed by the same guy who designed the TiBook I believe.

I can definitely see Apple coming out with a kick @ss device very similar to that one. It would be so great! I would buy it in a second. :)

[rdowns]

I don't see why Apple couldn't change to a CD and DVD install version of 10.4. The CD would be specifically for G4 Mac's. The DVD would be for the G5, then they could also offer 64 bit. If Apple moves to 64 bit OS software then it will encourage developers to create 64 bit compatability software. What better place to announce this strategy than at WWDC in June.

I dont see Apple going down a dual OS path again (OS9 and OS X). Too complicated and expensive to support. How will they sell upgrades, two different versions? More cost.

What I think Apple needs to do and believe they will, is to transition their line to all G5 within a year and then move to a 64 bit OS maybe a year after that. Give the G4 installed base a chance to live out their useful life. Criticize (deservedly so) Apple for many things but leaving the installed base behind is something they have not yet done.

[Rod Rod]

Criticize (deservedly so) Apple for many things but leaving the installed base behind is something they have not yet done.

unless you count abandoning OS 9, which had a huge installed base (and still has many holdouts).

[rdowns]

unless you count abandoning OS 9, which had a huge installed base (and still has many holdouts).

They supported OS9 for 2 years after OS X came out and recently stopped allowing new machines to boot into it. There is still Classic so I don't view it as leaving the holdouts behind.

[MacRAND]

They supported OS9 for 2 years after OS X came out and recently stopped allowing new machines to boot into it. There is still Classic so I don't view it as leaving the holdouts behind.OS 9 is a huge unsafe security backdoor to OS X and if for no other reason, 9 had to go to protect OS X security. By booting into OS 9, I can circumvent (and have) almost all of OS X security protection, so I wondered how long it would take before Apple would close the loophole.

Before Panther, I had upgraded all my pertinent software to X and simply stopped having any reason to boot into 9, so I just don't go 9 anymore. Not once during 2003.

When I recently reloaded OS X onto my G3 iBook upon installing a new HD, although it originally had come with both systems installed, I un-intentionally neglected to load 9. The only reason I noticed was when I had to reload dual system software that warned me it was NOT doing anything for OS 9. "Oh, okay" was my only reaction. OS 9.2.2 has followed OS 8.5, OS 7 and OS 6. Eventually, OS X will give way to OS ll. Progress. Now that Quark has migrated to X, what else has been left behind? If someone does have a necessary program in OS 9, the situation is similar to dependency on MS DOS for Windows users. I empathize.

[thatwendigo]

i dream of apple announcing a buy out of oqo.com. that would be rad. they'd have to rename it as "vPod" or something appley like that. i haven't thought of a slogan for it, but i'm sure steve's crew would come up with something snazzy. maybe, "the world's most powerful handtop computer."

I hadn't been aware of that before now, but it looks an awful lot like something my dad and I used to talk about. Eventually, we think that home users will all be using a sort of modular system for their needs. It could even work pretty well in certain kinds of businesses.

IBM and a few others are working on designs that are pretty close to what we envisioned a few years ago. Basically, you have a central unit with your main drive, processor, RAM, and so on, where your work and personal stuff would stay. Then, there are form-factor units that you'd slot the module into - desktops, laptops, palmtops... It'd only be limited by what the engineers could squeeze into the space. Taking a lesson from the Sun server idea, though, you'd also have auxilliary modules. Slottable drives, extra RAM, and so on in high-badnwidth external units.

So, say that you had a single processor personal module, with 1 GB of RAM, a 250GB drive, and a low-end graphics card. It serves pretty well at home, and runs your laptop shell, too. When you're at work, though, you can drop it into your eight-processor, 20 GB RAM, 2 TB disk array system, so that your workflow is defined by your already-established preferences, and a hard-coded data lock for business users keeps you from taking any of it home.

Far fetched?

IBM's got working prototypes as we speak, and Sun does the drive/RAM/processor module in servers. It's just a matter of time before someone shrinks it.

As I like to keep reminding people: Think Different.

[hellofromwithin]

It's a new Pro-App that will directly target Adobe's After Effects!!

You heard it here first

[Downdivx]

It's a new Pro-App that will directly target Adobe's After Effects!!

You heard it here first

Do you have inside information or is this just a guess?

W

[wdlove]

I dont see Apple going down a dual OS path again (OS9 and OS X). Too complicated and expensive to support. How will they sell upgrades, two different versions? More cost.

What I think Apple needs to do and believe they will, is to transition their line to all G5 within a year and then move to a 64 bit OS maybe a year after that. Give the G4 installed base a chance to live out their useful life. Criticize (deservedly so) Apple for many things but leaving the installed base behind is something they have not yet done.

It doesn't seem to me to be the same as supporting OS 9 & OS X. They would only be supporting OX. It would just be having one that supports the 64 bit for the G5. Apple needs to get more developers to write programs for the G5. We need to make full use of the G5.

[rdowns]

It doesn't seem to me to be the same as supporting OS 9 & OS X. They would only be supporting OX. It would just be having one that supports the 64 bit for the G5. Apple needs to get more developers to write programs for the G5. We need to make full use of the G5.

I agree, we need to make full use of the G5. Now tell Apple to put them into some damn computers. Only then will developers exploit the G5.

[AppleJustWorks]

So.... Are we going to see new G5;s any time soon?

I sure hope so....Something is is wrong withthe spacebaron this computer....uhh any way....I cant standany more of thiswaitng.


lol....looks at post....off to compusa for a new keyboard...

[thatwendigo]

I agree, we need to make full use of the G5. Now tell Apple to put them into some damn computers. Only then will developers exploit the G5.

You mean like this one (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/71507/wo/dH2nXkGC4I483StuHRD1fMRKsld/1.0.7.1.0.5.25.1.0.21.3.1.1.0?59,6), this one (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/71507/wo/dH2nXkGC4I483StuHRD1fMRKsld/3.0.7.1.0.5.25.1.1.21.3.1.1.0?50,5), this one (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/71507/wo/dH2nXkGC4I483StuHRD1fMRKsld/9.0.7.1.0.5.25.1.2.21.3.1.1.0?52,8), this one (http://store.apple.com/AppleStore/WebObjects/BizCustom.woa/70306/wo/1Y5VKXaToy293eRLR6X1najMgS8/3.0.7.1.0.5.13.1.0.21.3.1.1.0?54,8), this one (http://store.apple.com/AppleStore/WebObjects/BizCustom.woa/70306/wo/1Y5VKXaToy293eRLR6X1najMgS8/5.0.7.1.0.5.13.1.1.21.3.1.1.0?17,12), and this one (http://store.apple.com/AppleStore/WebObjects/BizCustom.woa/70306/wo/1Y5VKXaToy293eRLR6X1najMgS8/5.0.7.1.0.5.13.1.1.21.3.1.1.0?17,12)?

[~Shard~]

I agree, we need to make full use of the G5. Now tell Apple to put them into some damn computers. Only then will developers exploit the G5.

As thatwendigo has pointed out above though, Apple HAS put the G5s in some of their machines - and it happens to be all their Pro machines (save the PowerBook) at that. If developers are going to exploit the G5, I think that they would do it for pro apps and in pro environments, which is exactly where Apple currently has the G5s - in their Pro machines. Or do you believe developers will only exploit the G5 when it is put in iBooks, eMacs and iMacs, not caring if the chip is in the Pro machines? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Mind you, there are many consumer apps I suppose that developers will no doubt work on once the G5 reaches these lower-end machines, however to me, the powerhouse apps (Photoshop, Final Cut, etc.) are the most likely apps to be optimized, and these are the Pro apps that run on the Pro machines - i.e. the PowerMacs and the xServes - which already have the G5. :)

As for making FULL use of the G5 as you suggest, hey, I'm all for that - throw the G5 in every single product! However the reality is, we're all going to have to be patient when it comes to this - there is a lot of re-engineering and obstacles to overcome, and it will happen in due time. Patience is a virtue! :cool:

As a result, expect the next batch of upgrades for the PowerBooks and iBooks to be G4 speed bumps with some hardware upgrades, and possibly even the same for the next iMac. Until we see the Rev B PowerMacs and possibly the fabled 3 GHz G5, I wouldn't expect to see any G5 upgrades in any other product lines, like it or not.

[MacRAND]

In perhaps an obvious prediction, more evidence appears to point to new product announcements at the NAB conference during the week of April 19th.
Apple has already notified the press (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/03/20040310162042.shtml) of a media event on April 18th 2004.
The invitation read:
A GIF of the invitation can be found here (http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/nabinvite.gif).
The Los Angeles Final Cut Pro User Group (http://www.lafcpug.org/nab.html) will be having Final Cut Pro Product Designer Brian Meaney and Product Manager Paul Saconne to speak and answer questions on "something super secret". Other anonymous tips have pointed to at least a Shake Update during the NAB conference.Well folks, I've heard the same thing now from a 3rd person in a position to know, that APPLE has a "surprise" in store for us that we have yet to guess, affecting TV and the MacApparently, the announcement could have been made as early as March 23rd, but was delayed until NAB this coming week in April because of the specific tie-in to Broadcast TV.
That's the NEWS.

The RUMORS (unconfirmed guesses) are that Apple has (pure speculation):

A. a new large Display incorporating HD TV; 30"?

B. upgraded FinalCut Pro to handle HD TV broadcast video & cine; improved and made easier AC3 surround sound editing
provided for multiple cameras shooting the same scene (A/B roll?)
interfaced with new camcorders having expanded capabilities that are about to be released by Panasonic, JVC, SONY, and Pioneer; the full extent of which may not be revealed until their release, not Apple's
a new APPLE TV oriented product involving an 80GB firewire hard drive, something other than an LCD display monitor, and either for the "home market" or tied to non-linear camcorder memory avoiding tape (sort of a firewire iPod for your camcorder at under $200)
C. new PowerMacs will showcase a new video/audio interface specifically designed for "TV broadcast", including HD TV, and will further improve the position of Macs with the video, broadcast, and music industries.

NO ONE would tell what the products specifically are, or how they have come to be in the know. However, it was clear that their contact with the "surprise" has been long term and intimate, and that the events over the next 3 months will be a culmination of that relationship with Apple.
They do NOT expect Apple to release ALL THAT IT HAS during NAB with a hint that to do so would be overwhelming to the public and not in Apple's best interest. Looks like we are going to get "spoon fed" by a series of "surprises" that when viewed collectively will be quite a blockbuster.

They are saying that Apple and Uncle Steve have
NOT been quietly twiddling their thumbs with a broad grin on their faces
listening to Apple Music downloaded into iTunes on a new iPod or iPod Mini,
drinking Pepsi and collecting yellow bottle caps, while
watching Apple Studio Displays fly out the warehouses at discounted prices... all for nothing. :D

EXPECT TO BE SURPRISED, but not necessarily all at once ;).
The best part may be watching the faces of those few anti-Mac pro-PC prophets who have been ardently predicting the DEMISE of Apple and DOOM for the Mac
as they eat **** and ...(vile things happen to them, like being chained to a SONY or DELL IBM-compatible PC of their choice loaded with AOL and MS products, tied only to the internet with a 56k modem but having the use of a new PC USB webcam and AIM/AV)
Disgusting & cruel, isn't it. :rolleyes:

[hellofromwithin]

Do you have inside information or is this just a guess?

W

As the name sugests...from within. News will break tomorrow.

[aswitcher]

Well folks, I've heard the same thing now from a 3rd person in a position to know, that APPLE has a "surprise" in store for us that we have yet to guess, affecting TV and the Mac

Nice rumors. Wish they would put digital TV into powerbooks ;) Maybe in afew years. Ok your in the Oracle bout, especially now that the current Oracle and competition have been very quiet the last few days...

Less than 24 to go

[Zaty]

It's been probably asked before but I couldn't find the right post: What time does the Apple event start and is there a possibility to follow it live?

Edit: Found out half of the answer to my question: The event starts at 11am PDT or 1800 GMT.

[AppleJustWorks]

It's been probably asked before but I couldn't find the right post: What time does the Apple event start and is there a possibility to follow it live?

Edit: Found out half of the answer to my question: The event starts at 11am PDT or 1800 GMT.


whoops found my answer....im alittle disappointed that it isnt on apples site, or using quicktime.....its using realplayer......
ooh well...

here is the url: http://www.tvworldwide.com/events/nab/nab2004/#

after you go to that site, look the the left, and it has instructions.

[Zaty]

whoops found my answer....im alittle disappointed that it isnt on apples site, or using quicktime.....its using realplayer......
ooh well...

here is the url: http://www.tvworldwide.com/events/nab/nab2004/#

after you go to that site, look the the left, and it has instructions.

You beat me by two minutes or so...

But did you also realise that the Apple event is not listed in the show's official event schedule? Could it be that Apple's presentation is not really a NAB event and Apple just took the opportunity to present whatever they have while NAB is on? Therefore I doubt it will be webcast but there's still hope.

http://www.nabshow.com/keynotes.asp

Edit: It's in fact a press conference rather than official NAB event. So it won't probably be shown on NAB's webcast :(

[AppleJustWorks]

actually there is one mention of apple on the page...(just do the find thingy with "apple") although it doesnt seem to be anything big...it just says about quicktime....not apple on the whole.! :eek:

[wdlove]

I wonder if Apple might send a satellite feed of the news conference to it's local Apple Stores?

[CmdrLaForge]

Hi,

the invite says it starts at 11.00 am in Las Vegas. I not quite sure in which time zone Las Vegas is, but I think it should have been started already.

I wonder how they will announce that officially ? Any ideas ? Is anybody here in Vegas ?

Invite (http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/nabinvite.gif)

Cheers

[Lancetx]

The event starts at 11:00am PDT or 2:00pm EDT. So about 3 more hours to go.

[Zaty]

Hi,

the invite says it starts at 11.00 am in Las Vegas. I not quite sure in which time zone Las Vegas is, but I think it should have been started already.

I wonder how they will announce that officially ? Any ideas ? Is anybody here in Vegas ?

Invite (http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/nabinvite.gif)

Cheers

11am PDT is 2000 CEST!

[CmdrLaForge]

11am PDT is 2000 CEST!

Must have been wishful thinking ! Ok. So I expect no news until 21.30 pm tonight. Maybe even 22.00 pm. Well thats late . :(

[MacRAND]

The event starts at 11:00am PDT or 2:00pm EDT. So about 3 more hours to go.About 1 hour 40 minutes now that it's 9:20 a.m.
I'm wondering if NAB is really going to STREAM it or if the even will take place and then a link provided to download a recorded file of it. Since it is not part of the Keynote or any listed program, just a news confernece, what could it be?s

Maybe we will just have to wait until it's over and see the effective results on Apple's website, Macrumor's front page, etc.

[Zaty]

Must have been wishful thinking ! Ok. So I expect no news until 21.30 pm tonight. Maybe even 22.00 pm. Well thats late . :(

Well since the press conference is scheduled to end at 12.15 pm PDT (21:15 CEST), I hope we don't have to wait until 22:00. :)

[Alte22a]

Anybody have any ideas if there is gonna be a steam?

[applekid]

I doubt there will be a stream, and I doubt there's going to be anything huge. But I don't mind any cool surprises ;)

[IndyGopher]

Anybody have any ideas if there is gonna be a steam?
Nothing I could find on Apple's website makes me think they will stream it. That doesn't preclude them from doing it, of course, but there's little point in streaming it if they don't tell anyone.
Unless your question really was steam related, and that's some British way of asking if the announcement will be made in the sauna? Would seem like a particularly "Vegas" way to do it, I suppose...

[Alte22a]

Unless your question really was steam related, and that's some British way of asking if the announcement will be made in the sauna? Would seem like a particularly "Vegas" way to do it, I suppose...

Sorry please excuse my spelling, of course I meant stream... :p

[Multimedia]

None of the Mac News websites are covering the press conference live. We have not one member of MacRumors in the house with a PowerBook?

[macridah]

None of the Mac News websites are covering the press conference live. We have not one member of MacRumors in the house with a PowerBook?

This announcement must not be that big of a deal then; you think? I hope there will be some kind of announcement that MOVES us :confused:

[James.Paul]

None of the Mac News websites are covering the press conference live. We have not one member of MacRumors in the house with a PowerBook?

As far as i remember the event is invitation only. Somehow, i don't Macrumors would be top of the guest list!!!!!

As far as products go, Appleinsider mentioned a digital asset management piece of software for video. I hope this will include photo storage offering features beyond iPhoto.

[Multimedia]

As far as i remember the event is invitation only. Somehow, i don't Macrumors would be top of the guest list!!!!!

As far as products go, Appleinsider mentioned a digital asset management piece of software for video. I hope this will include photo storage offering features beyond iPhoto.
I Was Invited - I'm sure other MEMBERS were.

[applekid]

I Was Invited - I'm sure other MEMBERS were.

Yeah, how else did MacRumors obtain that invitation scan?

[klaus]

- Shake 3.5
- DVD Studio Pro 3
- Final Cut Pro 4.5 HD (pour High Definition)

Also XSAN was announced, although the source isn't clear on the fact if it's software or hardware (probably hardware)

press release will clarify things

edit : source : Macbidouille (http://www.macbidouille.com)

[Multimedia]

- Shake 3.5
- DVD Studio Pro 3
- Final Cut Pro 4.5 HD (pour High Definition)

Also XSAN was announced, although the source isn't clear on the fact if it's software or hardware (probably hardware)

press release will clarify things

edit : source : Macbidouille (http://www.macbidouille.com)
Not Even On The Apple Website Yet. Any details on the HDDV compatability front? Shipping Dates? Upgrade Prices?

Just checked Apple's Press Release Archive and it isn't updated yet.

<http://www.apple.com/pr/>

[Zaty]

- Shake 3.5
- DVD Studio Pro 3
- Final Cut Pro 4.5 HD (pour High Definition)

Also XSAN was announced, although the source isn't clear on the fact if it's software or hardware (probably hardware)

press release will clarify things

edit : source : Macbidouille (http://www.macbidouille.com)

I can only hope for macbidouille it's not just another rumour coming out of France :)

[macridah]

Hey, pretty cool. I curious about xSan. Does that mean Storage Area Network ... I wonder why this would be announced at NAB.

[klaus]

Hey, pretty cool. I curious about xSan. Does that mean Storage Area Network ... I wonder why this would be announced at NAB.

Probably because this kind of technology can be used to store video files on your network and use them on your comp without noticing a real delay.

Kind of Avid technology

[macridah]

from another forum

"Motion: competitor to After Effect, Lower cost and real time."

[Multimedia]

from another forum

"Motion: competitor to After Effect, Lower cost and real time."
What other forum URL please? You mean xSan is an AfterEffects Killer Software Program?

[TWinbrook46636]

No, Motion is an After Effect killer.

[macridah]

What other forum URL please? You mean xSan is an AfterEffects Killer Software Program?

http://www.macosx.com/forums/showthread.php?p=302565#post302565

[Zaty]

PRESS RELEASES ARE UP!

Good, the G5 banner is finally gone for good :D

[Multimedia]

Apple Finally Posted New Press Releases Here. (http://www.apple.com/pr/)Looks like HDDV support is part of the deal. Looking Good.

[Multimedia]

5 Updates To Final Cut Pro Appear In Software Update:

Cinema Tools 2.2
Compressor 1.2
Final Cut Pro HD
LiveType 1.2 for Final Cut Pro HD
Pro Application Support 2.0

Now all that remains for low end HDDV compatability is still a third party plug in from St. Louis' MPEG ENCODER PIONEER Heuris Software

HEURIS
1136 Washington Ave, 7th Floor
St. Louis, Missouri, USA 63101
314.534.1514
(http://www.heuris.com/)

[wdlove]

Good, the G5 banner is finally gone for good :D

Say it isn't so! :(

That glorious banner will be back in about nine weeks or less and even better. Steve is going to wow us with the Rev. B. :)

[Rod Rod]

5 Updates To Final Cut Pro Appear In Software Update:

Cinema Tools 2.2
Compressor 1.2
Final Cut Pro HD
LiveType 1.2 for Final Cut Pro HD
Pro Application Support 2.0

Now all that remains for low end HDDV compatability is still a third party plug in from St. Louis' MPEG ENCODER PIONEER Heuris Software

HEURIS
1136 Washington Ave, 7th Floor
St. Louis, Missouri, USA 63101
314.534.1514
(http://www.heuris.com/)

Heuris is one solution for HDV editing in FCP. Another was just announced at NAB: LumiereHD. www.lumierehd.com It seems simpler.