Apple Announces Dates for WWDC 2009: June 8th-12th

[MacRumors]

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Apple announced (http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/) today that this year's Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) will take place from June 8th through 12th in the Moscone West convention center in San Francisco. Basic promotional information (http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/experience/) on what attendees can expect is provided on Apple's site, but the full schedule of events is yet to be published.The Apple Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) is the premier technical event for developers and IT professionals innovating with Apple platforms. Over 1,000 Apple engineers will be at Moscone West to present the latest Apple technologies and provide you with code-level guidance. You’ll learn how to harness the power of iPhone OS, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, and Mac OS X Server Snow Leopard in the most efficient and sophisticated way possible — saving you time and accelerating your development. Bring your MacBook and your imagination, and prepare to make your ideas happen.

As it did last year, Apple is offering three tracks for attendees: iPhone, Mac, and IT. The conference will include technical sessions, hands-on labs, as well as other special events. Registration is $1295 before April 24th, after which the price will increase to $1595.

Article Link: Apple Announces Dates for WWDC 2009: June 8th-12th (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/26/apple-announces-dates-for-wwdc-2009-june-8th-12th/)

[chrmjenkins]

Sweet. Only a little over 2 months to get here. Can't wait based on all the product speculations we have.

[Krafty]

Registration is $1295 before April 24th, after which the price will increase to $1595.Holy http://i43.tinypic.com/9v8ojt.jpg.

http://i39.tinypic.com/25035nt.gif

[iOrlando]

oh yippeee....wait what?

[happydude]

man, wish i could go!!

[theheadguy]

Finally. I can't see how they could have waited much longer.

[BrownManUPS]

That's really expensive...people who have gone...can you justify that price this year?

[SkippyThorson]

Early June!!!!! Thank God!!!!!

If it's early June though, does this indicate Steve won't be there to do it???

[TylerSmash]

Finally ^^
Time for soem iPhone!

[igoldfish]

Awesome! Can't wait!

[Peace]

That's really expensive...people who have gone...can you justify that price this year?

I believe it's the same price as previous years.

[Sky Blue]

The two bridges mean that they will release a tablet.... oh, wait, wrong year.

[CitizenSnips]

Damn, I shouldn't have read this.
Now I won't be able to sleep....for 2.5 months :p

[paja]

Will Steve Jobs be giving the keynote?

That's the $64,000 question

[QuarterSwede]

The two bridges mean that they will release a tablet.... oh, wait, wrong year.
You may want to add an image so that people aren't wondering what the heck you're talking about. Took me a minute to get at least.

[Eidorian]

I can't wait.

Also, everybody panic! :D

[BrownManUPS]

I believe it's the same price as previous years.

I was kinda referring relative to the economy...etc..

[themoonisdown09]

Will Steve Jobs be giving the keynote?

That's the $64,000 question

I think that he will go on stage and welcome everyone one, but Phil will deliver the keynote.

[MrRage]

Odd.. I don't see a Select ADC membership + WWDC ticket package like they had last year. Crap and my ADC is about to expire too.

[ayasin]

Just bought my ticket. For those wondering if it's worth it, that depends on if you plan to dev on mac/iphone alot. If yes then it's totally worth it. I went last year and haven't regretted it at all.

[BrownManUPS]

Will Steve Jobs be giving the keynote?

That's the $64,000 question

It fits well with the "late spring" guideline that he gave in his letter to the public a few months ago.

[arkitect]

Will Steve Jobs be giving the keynote?

That's the $64,000 question

Well we all know he doesn't even get out of bed or that sort of money…

;)

[mogzieee]

Pretty sweet iPhone logo. :)

[SFStateStudent]

If Jobs isn't there, you can count me out. Maybe I'll hangout in the parking lot....:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

[porky]

You may want to add an image so that people aren't wondering what the heck you're talking about. Took me a minute to get at least.

For me it's more : "WHAT? Is that a year already? Time goes too fast :o"

[BTW]

Can't wait! :eek:

Looking forward to the stream of it. :D

It'll be interesting to see how attendance is this year in the down economy. If it's up then that would be a strong financial indicator for Apple besides their raw sales figures.

[talkingfuture]

WooHoo - new iPhones June the 8th! (fingers crossed)

[WPB2]

If Jobs isn't there, you can count me out. Maybe I'll hangout in the parking lot....:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Cool, sounds like a tailgate party.

Whos bringing the funnel?

[DELLsFan]

Holy http://i43.tinypic.com/9v8ojt.jpg.

http://i39.tinypic.com/25035nt.gif

Yeah, no kidding. I think I'll just wait at home for the video download - especially since the Annointed One probably won't be giving the keynote.

:apple:

[Chupa Chupa]

Excited for the new iPhone, but judging from the invite but what does this mean for Snow Leopard's announcement. I can't see Apple launching a new iPhone AND a new Mac OS at the same keynote.

[lostngone]

WOOT!!!

I made my hotel reservation almost a month ago.

The rumors were right on the money about the date.

[rikers_mailbox]

So presumably WWDC will bring iPhone OS 3.0 and Snow Leopard 10.6. Both are basically versions of OS X.

I wonder how much co-dependancy (is there a more technical term? :rolleyes:) there is between the two. I mean, how many features/add-ons to the iPhone also depend on 10.6 ... like Notes syncing or Exchange preferences, esp since 10.6 will have native Exchange support.

Looking forward to finding out more. Apple is, after all, a software company that just happens to make it's own hardware. This WWDC brings some BIG software updates across the board.

[o0samotech0o]

I can't see Apple launching a new iPhone AND a new Mac OS at the same keynote.

Looks like you might have to :D

-Sam

[P-Worm]

The invitation makes it look like the iPhone will again take center stage. This makes me a bit sad, I was hoping for Snow Leopard to make the news to promote OS X. More and more it looks like Apple is turning into a company that specializes in portable consumer electronics. :(

P-Worm

[Chupa Chupa]

WooHoo - new iPhones June the 8th! (fingers crossed)

Announced. They probably won't go on sale until June 30 -- the 2nd anniversary of the original iPhone launch. Coincedentially June 30 is a Tuesday! Alternatively, they'll go on sale the 26th, which is the last Friday of the quarter.

[NightFox]

OK, now taking bets on how long before a WWDC countdown app appears in the App Store

[o0samotech0o]

Announced. They probably won't go on sale until June 30 -- the 2nd anniversary of the original iPhone launch. Coincedentially June 30 is a Tuesday! Alternatively, they'll go on sale the 26th, which is the last Friday of the quarter.

Just about the right timing!

My birthday is on the 21st :D

-Sam:apple::apple::D:D

[sam10685]

I voted negative just to annoy people.

[o0samotech0o]

I voted negative just to annoy people.

Your a bit cool aren't you?
:rolleyes:

[dernhelm]

The two bridges mean that they will release a tablet.... oh, wait, wrong year.

Great quote! Made me laugh out loud.

[Andruw91]

June can't come soon enough. Can't wait to get my first iphone after WWDC

[rdowns]

I want a new iPhone OS.
I want a new iPhone.
I want Snow Leopard.
I want a tablet.
I want a pony. :rolleyes:

[xsecretfiles]

anybody else trying to find a secret message in the pic?

form the left corner to right bottom corner it reads

MORE

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

[inkswamp]

As it did last year, Apple is offering three tracks for attendees: iPhone, Mac, and IT.

Yeah, and judging by that image, it's going to be very iPhone-centric once again.

Come on, Apple (Computer) Inc. Show the Mac some freakin' love this time around.

[BRLawyer]

Early June!!!!! Thank God!!!!!

If it's early June though, does this indicate Steve won't be there to do it???

SJ will come back in time for the WWDC, and bring us also the New Cube...wait and see ;)

[Goona]

The invitation makes it look like the iPhone will again take center stage. This makes me a bit sad, I was hoping for Snow Leopard to make the news to promote OS X. More and more it looks like Apple is turning into a company that specializes in portable consumer electronics. :(

P-Worm

And so what, they are adapting to the changing environment.

[inkswamp]

anybody else trying to find a secret message in the pic?

form the left corner to right bottom corner it reads

MORE

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

It says EROM. Finally, Apple is bringing the world-class technology of EROM to its users.

Actually, according to the secret message, there will be free ham at WWDC:

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

[lillybeth]

anybody else trying to find a secret message in the pic?

form the left corner to right bottom corner it reads

MORE

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

hahahah good find? hahha

[spice weasel]

I can't wait! I'll finally be able to order my PowerBook G5!!! :D

[ltldrummerboy]

To me, the secret message says that there will be pirates present at WWDC.

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

[Reera]

anybody else trying to find a secret message in the pic?

form the left corner to right bottom corner it reads

MORE

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

I agree with ltldrummerboy
The iPhone Pirate! ... lol just kidding

[NightFox]

It's a delayed message from God/SJ to Noah:

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

[Shunnabunich]

If you go from top-right to bottom-left, you get the noise people will make when they nerdgasm from seeing the new iPhone and/or mythical MacPad. :D

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

:eek: <(EUAH!)

[BohoTrash]

Yay! Snow Leopard AND iPhone OS 3. Bring it on! ;)

[Voidness]

I wonder who's going to do the keynote this time. Could it be Steve Jobs?

[DPA]

Pretty sweet iPhone logo. :)

If you haven't noticed, it's interactive. Click the dots on the bottom between the dock and gray icons and it moves between 3 "home screens" the first says:
MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE
the second says
COME
CODE
WITH
PROS
the third says
MAKE
THIS
YOUR
YEAR

David

[sam10685]

anybody else trying to find a secret message in the pic?

form the left corner to right bottom corner it reads

MORE

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

It's so amazing you were able to see that.

[Mintin8]

SWEET! Can't wait for this! I wonder what will happen! Nice findings from MAKE YOUR MARK HERE people.

[roberry82]

To me, the secret message says that there will be pirates present at WWDC.

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

LMAO. That made my morning. LOL!

[mwxiao]

If you haven't noticed, it's interactive. Click the dots on the bottom between the dock and gray icons and it moves between 3 "home screens" the first says "MAKE YOUR MARK HERE" the second says "COME CODE WITH PROS" and the third says "MAKE THIS YOUR YEAR".

David

Nice catch.

[pavelbure]

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE


refers to the behind the screen camera apple has. didn't they file a patent for this ? now you leave your mark on the front screen.

b.t.w. i don't think we're getting a front facing camera, att won't allow this to destroy their precious network of mice and hamsters.:rolleyes:

[Shiner]

All I want is a small upgrade on the hardware. Then I would be a happy man.

[InkMaster]

Yaay! More iPhone ********!

Where's the Snow Leopard??? Wheres the 8 core MacBook Pros? Wheres my PowerBook G5 ffs!

On a different note...

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

APPLE IS STARTING A BRIDAL SERVICE!

[Sky Blue]

All I want is a small upgrade on the hardware. Then I would be a happy man.

at WWDC?


I hope WWDC doesn't turn into "New iPhone Hardware/OS day" every year.

[commander.data]

http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/16640

Interestingly, despite Apple's closer ties with nVidia, it's ATI that seems to have come up with the first application for OpenCL. ATI has co-operated with Havok (owned by Intel) and gotten it hardware accelerated through OpenCL. Presumably this should allow Havok Physics acceleration on ATI, nVidia, Intel (no doubt Larrabee and maybe Westmere IGPs), PowerVR (ie. next-gen iPhone), and any other GPU that supports OpenCL, which is much more open than nVidia's PhysX acceleration implemented in their proprietary C for CUDA language.

Hopefully, Apple will bring out ATI and Havok physics as a demo for OpenCL and Snow Leopard at WWDC using the HD4850 in the new iMac and HD4870 in the new Mac Pro. nVidia probably wouldn't be too happy about that.

[cswiger1]

I voted negative just to annoy people.

Your a bit cool aren't you?
:rolleyes:

hehe it worked for that person

[Shiner]

at WWDC?


I hope WWDC doesn't turn into "New iPhone Hardware/OS day" every year.

Why not? Would that harm you in any way?

[That-Is-Bull]

Whoa, if you read each line from left to right starting at the top, it reads:

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

Amazing! Maybe it's some sort of secret message.

[asdavis10]

Can't wait to see some of you there!

[kierennyc]

actually ignore that.

[DPA]

Whoa, if you read each line from left to right starting at the top, it reads:

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

Amazing! Maybe it's some sort of secret message.

Nice find! thehe!;) And people have already started guessing!

David

[powers74]

I guess the only updates iPhone will be getting are internal - I can't see them using an image of the current unit if anything were to change. But my predictions are usually horribly off. I guess they could surprise with a metal back.

[ihabime]

That's really expensive...people who have gone...can you justify that price this year?

It's worth it if your company sells software or hardware that depends on Apple, it's not worth it if you just want to say "weeeee I was there when they announced the new iPhone".

It's only become such a huge deal for regular users since Apple has stopped doing so many other trade shows.

Likewise, for the people complaining that it focuses to much on the iPhone, it's because Macs now use standard PC parts and ports, so they don't need to lay out the latest nubus revision, it's PCIe. iPhone/iPod ports are still proprietary, so more time is spent going over the details.

[puckhead193]

I think that he will go on stage and welcome everyone one, but Phil will deliver the keynote.

i think they will do an ichat with him, as a surprise guest.

[=MuLti-CeLL=]

Zomg
Wwdc
Cant
Wait

:d

[Shunnabunich]

Why not? Would that harm you in any way?

Possibly, if only in a roundabout way as an end user. In their zeal to promote the iPhone, Apple seems to be increasingly leaving the Mac and OS X by the wayside. Despite more developers buying Macs to engage in a frenzy of iPhone app development, and the fact that the development tools for both iPhone and Mac are sitting right there in front of them as a result (with not even much difference between the two), the Mac software market doesn't seem to be experiencing much growth. I don't think it'd kill Apple to pimp the Mac a little more than they're doing now. :rolleyes: Besides, I think Snow Leopard's internal advancements open up an opportunity to really push the Mac platform forward.

[8CoreWhore]

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/a/8/b/a8b81b10e39b921fc69c9677ceeab905.jpg

[=MuLti-CeLL=]

I guess the only updates iPhone will be getting are internal - I can't see them using an image of the current unit if anything were to change. But my predictions are usually horribly off. I guess they could surprise with a metal back.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Hopefully you're wrong though.

:D

74 days left!!!

[DPA]

i think they will do an ichat with him, as a surprise guest.

That would be interesting and very fun! Especially if they announced a new product with an iSight and demoed iChat with it and he was the person on the other end!

David

P.S. -
I was thinking the exact same thing. Hopefully you're wrong though.

:D

74 days left!!!

But nobody's counting, right?:p

[iParis]

So early June means no Steve Jobs, right?:(
I predict Snow Leopard, 32GB iPhone, new iPhone, and iPhone OS 3.0 (full release).
Also we will most likely see something else like a netbook, tablet, or possibly the xMac (even though it's unlikely).

[haiggy]

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE


Must be a Boggle player :p

[Barbie]

Does anybody notice the purple app icon in the Dock instead of the green Phone app icon on the iPhone 3G?

Barbie.

[rtdunham]

It's a delayed message from God/SJ to Noah:

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

right on! my sister's text messages take forever to get to me sometimes.

but will we have to load apps in pairs in the future?

[Kevlar]

Must be a Boggle player :p

There are 3 different sayings on the site

COME MAKE MAKE
CODE THIS YOUR
WITH YOUR MARK
PROS YEAR HERE
WWDC WWDC WWDC

[Eduardo1971]

The two bridges mean that they will release a tablet.... oh, wait, wrong year.

The iPhone in this year's WWDC invitation indicates that they will release a new iPhone.

;)

[DPA]

Does anybody notice the purple app icon in the Dock instead of the green Phone app icon on the iPhone 3G?

Barbie.

Yes! Maybe a change for the full release of 3.0 or just something done by Apple to excite all of us that notice those things.

David

[powers74]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Hopefully you're wrong though.

:D

74 days left!!!


Me too! Wait... wrong that that they... will... er...won't surprise... or that... Now I'm horribly confused!

[Shunnabunich]

That would be interesting and very fun! Especially if they announced a new product with an iSight and demoed iChat with it and he was the person on the other end!

David

If that isn't a hilariously complex justification to expect a videoconferencing iPhone this June, I dunno what is. :D Rock on!

Steve: I want you to have videoconferencing up and running on the new iPhone hardware by this June, Phil.

Phil: Why, Steve — so we can get millions of iPhone users hooked on video chat and drive the advancement of high-bandwidth cell networks?

Steve: How the hell long have you been working with me, Phil? I want you to demo it on stage with me as my big comeback! Yeesh.

[rtdunham]

Whoa, if you read each line from left to right starting at the top, it reads:

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

Amazing! Maybe it's some sort of secret message.

Occam's Razor: "one should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything".

[=MuLti-CeLL=]

But nobody's counting, right?:p

Begin the longest 74 days of your life! :D

[DPA]

If that isn't a hilariously complex justification to expect a videoconferencing iPhone this June, I dunno what is. :D Rock on!

Steve: I want you to have videoconferencing up and running on the new iPhone hardware this June, Phil.

Phil: Why, Steve — so we can get millions of iPhone users hooked on video chat and drive the advancement of high-bandwidth cell networks?

Steve: How the hell long have you been working with me, Phil? I want you to demo it on stage with me as my big comeback! Yeesh.

LMAO... Hell YES!!

Begin the longest 74 days of your life! :D

I'm already in line outside the North Michigan Ave Apple store!

David

[=MuLti-CeLL=]

Me too! Wait... wrong that that they... will... er...won't surprise... or that... Now I'm horribly confused!

Haha. About the current gen iPhone pictured you were talking about. Or so we think.

Sorry for the confusion.

[iParis]

If that isn't a hilariously complex justification to expect a videoconferencing iPhone this June, I dunno what is. :D Rock on!

Steve: I want you to have videoconferencing up and running on the new iPhone hardware by this June, Phil.

Phil: Why, Steve — so we can get millions of iPhone users hooked on video chat and drive the advancement of high-bandwidth cell networks?

Steve: How the hell long have you been working with me, Phil? I want you to demo it on stage with me as my big comeback! Yeesh.

No! Steve should come alone! I want him there. Without out the company of Phil, also known as the guy who screwed us over at CrapWorld '09.

[=MuLti-CeLL=]

I'm already in line outside the North Michigan Ave Apple store!

David

SAVE ME A SPOT!!

[Shunnabunich]

No! Steve should come alone! I want him there. Without out the company of Phil, also known as the guy who screwed us over at CrapWorld '09.

Now now, Phil wasn't the guy who decided what Apple would and would not have ready to introduce at the expo. :rolleyes: And besides, Phil has been helping out in Steve's keynotes for years and years. Just look through some of the Macworld and WWDC keynotes up on YouTube.

Edit: I just noticed the bold in your quote and realized you were talking specifically about the comeback part. However, it'd be just as cool in my mind if Steve strolled on-stage as they were hanging up. Rock-star-esque uproar from the crowd, etc. It'd be sort of like easing us back from Steveless keynotes into Steve running the show again.

[DPA]

No! Steve should come alone! I want him there. Without out the company of Phil, also known as the guy who screwed us over at CrapWorld '09.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see him there and agree with some people on here that it would be somewhat of an epic coming back appearance.

SAVE ME A SPOT!!

I think the guy behind me would mind, though. Oh wait.......... are ragged clothes in style now?.......... oh never mind, he's a hobo!



Someone just threw a quarter in my Starbucks cup!

David

[darthraige]

I just want an iPhone Verizon announcement. I don't care if it's sold next year, I just want the announcement that they will offer it.

[iParis]

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see him there and agree with some people on here that it would be somewhat of an epic coming back appearance.
Now now, Phil wasn't the guy who decided what Apple would and would not have ready to introduce at the expo. :rolleyes: And besides, Phil has been helping out in Steve's keynotes for years and years. Just look through some of the Macworld and WWDC keynotes up on YouTube.

Edit: I just noticed the bold in your quote and realized you were talking specifically about the comeback part. However, it'd be just as cool in my mind if Steve strolled on-stage as they were hanging up. Rock-star-esque cheers from the crowd, etc. It'd be sort of like easing us back from Steveless keynotes into Steve running the show again.

What would be cool is if it went like this.

Announcer: Now to present the keynote, I give you Phil Schiller!

Crowd: .........

Steve Jobs: *Walks on stage*

Crowd: Huge applause and roar for ten minutes!

OR

Announcer: Now to present the keynote, I give you Phil Schiller!

Phil Schiller: *Walks on stage* "Thank you all for joining us. We are excited to see many developers and peers come out in praise of iPhone OS and Mac OS X. Now I but some of you are wondering what I meant by "us" and "we." Let me elaborate for you. I now present to you the CEO of Apple. inc! Mr. Steve Jobs everyone!!!"

Steve Jobs: *Walks on stage*

Crowd: Huge applause and roar for ten minutes!

Steve Jobs: "Thank you! Thank you! Now onto my health! I am fine. I'm not going to die. I will remain with your as CEO and a part of Apple for as long as I live. I am very exited to have Phil and I talk to you about iPhone OS 3.0, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard Server, and [insert insanely cool new Apple gadget here; such as the xMac, Apple Tablet, or Apple netbook]."


I prefer the second situation. Except I would like the [insert insanely cool new Apple gadget here; such as the xMac, Apple Tablet, or Apple netbook] to not be announced until last and in the mean time they can refer to it as "something special."
Btw, I almost cried while typing up this post..:o

[DuFFy]

I guess the only updates iPhone will be getting are internal - I can't see them using an image of the current unit if anything were to change. But my predictions are usually horribly off. I guess they could surprise with a metal back.

but how wrong you are. notice that the top of the phone, where a front facing camera would be ideally placed is cropped off, you cant even see the earpiece. so it could be a "hahaha look what we are showing you and you dont even know about it" kinda thing. and plus the back will most likely be changed in someway. :cool:

[Yvan256]

Will Steve Jobs be giving the keynote?

That's the $64,000 question

Don't you mean the 65 535$ question? ;)

(it IS a developer conference after all)

[That-Is-Bull]

but how wrong you are. notice that the top of the phone, where a front facing camera would be ideally placed is cropped off, you cant even see the earpiece. so it could be a "hahaha look what we are showing you and you dont even know about it" kinda thing. and plus the back will most likely be changed in someway. :cool:

It's not cut off in the ADC e-mails Apple sent, and on the website it's just darker. There's no front camera visible in either picture. But Apple wouldn't put the new iPhone on their website before WWDC regardless, that doesn't mean there isn't going to be a new one.

[afurry13]

What can we expect from this WWDC? I assume we will be getting the third iteration of the iphone as well as an in depth look at snow leopard. Correct me if I'm wrong. I plan on selling my samsung epix and ipod to get one of these new iphone assuming they are 32gb. I think 32gb is the magic number for alot of potential buyers.

[DuFFy]

It's not cut off in the ADC e-mails Apple sent, and on the website it's just darker. There's no front camera visible in either picture. But Apple wouldn't put the new iPhone on their website before WWDC regardless, that doesn't mean there isn't going to be a new one.


i know they definitely wouldnt do that. i feel like if apple was putting a front facing camera they would find a way to put it under the glass, anyway. but good call, hell i even completely missed the fact that the black bar cutting it off is transparent. durr. :o

[iMacoo7]

The news is great but our rumor mill is still slim on the hardware side of things.
1. Pictures (Fake or Real) have not emerged.
2. Hardware specifics -A few of these but nothing really to let us know what is in store for the new iPhone.

I do believe that both snow leopard and iPhone (New) will be talked about.
The event about 3.0 software was covered very throughly, leaving the iPhone only the last 10- 20 minutes to talk about the new hardware, and what modifications have been done to 3.0 software @ WWDC.
The main focus or "wow" factor will be engulfing the audience on all the newest features of Snow Leopard.

[viccles]

Come on, new iphone with longer battery life!

[NateDMB]

anybody else trying to find a secret message in the pic?

form the left corner to right bottom corner it reads

MORE

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

Wow and if you look at the third row down it says kure! Kure, like curry? We're gonna get a mac that makes curry too! Hooray.

BTW I'm just joking with you ;)

[diemos]

I can't wait. Bring on new iPhone please :)

[afurry13]

Battery life is a MUST upgrade... if the rumors are true then the faster 3g along with mobiTV will chew up even more battery life. I would like to make sure that apple guarantees 24 hours of rigorous use. That's all I need, with the day and age we are in. It is pretty much expected that you charge your phone every night.

[pohl]

LMAO
WWJD
RTFS
GTFO

[afurry13]

Assuming apple knows what they are doing... This should be the first "COMPLETE" iphone. MMS, mobiTV, 3.5g, hopefully built in ichat AV, video calling. This should be the iphone that fills the gap and truly makes it a dominant smart phone. And hopefully shut all the blackberry fanboys up.

[macfan881]

so i guess WWDC

Iphone 3.0 out
Snow Leopard Features
netbook mac?
and one more thing Jobs retunrs:D

[aaronbrethorst]

making a connection that leads to a single contract job will pay for WWDC several times over for me...so yes.

That's really expensive...people who have gone...can you justify that price this year?

[chr1s60]

Wow, that's expensive. Hopefully something good comes out of this.

[Chupa Chupa]

I do believe that both snow leopard and iPhone (New) will be talked about.
The event about 3.0 software was covered very throughly, leaving the iPhone only the last 10- 20 minutes to talk about the new hardware, and what modifications have been done to 3.0 software @ WWDC.
The main focus or "wow" factor will be engulfing the audience on all the newest features of Snow Leopard.


1) You are perhaps overlooking that this is Apple. Apple execs takes 10 minutes just to talk about ONE new feature in iPhoto. I doubt they could cover a significantly new iPhone in 20.

2) The invite makes it clear that the iPhone is going to be the star. Considering this is a dev. conf. the invite isn't to welcoming to Mac devs.

Considering this I think the keynote will be flipped from what you are suggesting, i.e., 20 minutes on Snow Leopard... if that, and 2 hours on the new iPhone. I suspect Apple will wait to officially announce 10.6 at the fall computer special event, and that it will ship in October.

[Andruw91]

What can we expect from this WWDC? I assume we will be getting the third iteration of the iphone as well as an in depth look at snow leopard. Correct me if I'm wrong. I plan on selling my samsung epix and ipod to get one of these new iphone assuming they are 32gb. I think 32gb is the magic number for alot of potential buyers.
32gb is my magic number, but I'll be buying one no matter what
Begin the longest 74 days of your life! :D
Until this time next year when we'll be expecting another new iphone or Apple product

[MistaBungle]

Can't wait to follow this on live.macrumors.com since I'm too poor to go!

[Tallest Skil]

Every time. Every time, without fail, Apple releases a new preview image or email, and I say, "Oh, good. For once this one is actually straightforward and not cryptic at all."

And then these people say, "Oh, that icon is purple instead of green!" or, in October, "Oh, see the spacing of the Apple logo in relation to the size of the screen? That laptop is really, really small! It must be a MacBook Nano!"

Nonsense.:D

Personally, I would have thought that since we're NEVER right about this stuff that we'd have given up by now.

It's fun all the same; I'm actually curious why they wouldn't have simply used green, blue, blue, orange in favor of purple, blue, green, orange...:rolleyes:

[Stately]

Ooooh boy, it's almost about that time. UMPC's in all different sizes and shapes. I'm looking forward to doing some serious computing on the go w/o always carrying my pro. That 3.0 firm is gonna be something, I think many people will finally feel satisfied; as if they have a complete device now. I just hope they include document editing with that 3.0. :cool:

[iParis]

Can't wait to follow this on live.macrumors.com since I'm too poor to go!
Let's just hope /b/ doesn't spam it this time...
Every time. Every time, without fail, Apple releases a new preview image or email, and I say, "Oh, good. For once this one is actually straightforward and not cryptic at all."

And then these people say, "Oh, that icon is purple instead of green!" or, in October, "Oh, see the spacing of the Apple logo in relation to the size of the screen? That laptop is really, really small! It must be a MacBook Nano!"

Nonsense.:D

Personally, I would have thought that since we're NEVER right about this stuff that we'd have given up by now.

It's fun all the same; I'm actually curious why they wouldn't have simply used green, blue, blue, orange in favor of purple, blue, green, orange...:rolleyes:

Or like during the notebook even everyone thought that there was going to be something talked about or done with spotlight because Engadget's invite said "The Spotlight is on NoteBooks."

[Plutonius]

It has been mentioned that Snow Leopard will most likely be out 2 months after WWDC. It looks like August then :).

[iParis]

It has been mentioned that Snow Leopard will most likely be out 2 months after WWDC. It looks like August then :).

Where did you here that?
Link?

[MistaBungle]

It's fun all the same; I'm actually curious why they wouldn't have simply used green, blue, blue, orange in favor of purple, blue, green, orange...:rolleyes:

The purple did seem like an outlier but I think some people just get too heavy into things and see what they want to see.

[viccles]

Battery life is a MUST upgrade... if the rumors are true then the faster 3g along with mobiTV will chew up even more battery life. I would like to make sure that apple guarantees 24 hours of rigorous use. That's all I need, with the day and age we are in. It is pretty much expected that you charge your phone every night.

I agree with you. Number 1 reason I sold my iphone. I couldn't go to work and get a day's usage out of it. Fix the battery life and I'll buy one again Apple!!!

[Schizoid]

anybody else trying to find a secret message in the pic?

form the left corner to right bottom corner it reads

MORE

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

Ah yes, it's an anagram, I see now...
OH MURKY REMAKE ERA!

my God, we've gonna have remakes of old products...
like Newtons! 4400s!! and LUGGABLES!!!!!!

[Wild-Bill]

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

ARRR !!!!!!

:eek:

Why would people think that the WWDC being announced is a negative? :confused:

[fleshman03]

I want a new iPhone OS.
I want a new iPhone.
I want Snow Leopard.
I want a tablet.
I want a pony. :rolleyes:

4/5 an't bad

[vivithemage]

that price to attend is insanity!!

[iParis]

that price to attend is insanity!!

I wonder how much it really cost for Apple to hold the event...

[ortuno2k]

I wish I had more knowledge developing for the Mac and iPhone so I could go and have some fun!
I'm still learning C & Objective C :(

[fleshman03]

I guess the only updates iPhone will be getting are internal - I can't see them using an image of the current unit if anything were to change. But my predictions are usually horribly off. I guess they could surprise with a metal back.

As opposed to the other pictures of unreleased products?

And to all those who say no tablet, read the above comment

[badNameErr]

The two bridges mean that they will release a tablet.... oh, wait, wrong year.

:D

The funny thing is that it doesn't look like people learnt from last year!!

[davidbrummy]

My wife organizes conferences for a large tech company and we discussed the cost recently. She explained that these events are very expensive to put on and Companies just try to break even on them. So 5 days for $1295 is pretty good value.

I expect:

iPhone 3.0 software released
A new iPhone model being announced for shipment in Q4
The release data of Snow Leopard being announced.

Maybe a new Apple TV?

[MacSamurai]

COME
CODE
WITH
PROS
WWDC

the elusive iProd :eek:

[Goona]

I agree with you. Number 1 reason I sold my iphone. I couldn't go to work and get a day's usage out of it. Fix the battery life and I'll buy one again Apple!!!I'm about to get a day's worth from the phone and I use it heavily for browsing, texting, calls, various apps, what must you guys be doing on your phones?

[iParis]

My wife organizes conferences for a large tech company and we discussed the cost recently. She explained that these events are very expensive to put on and Companies just try to break even on them. So 5 days for $1295 is pretty good value.

I expect:

iPhone 3.0 software released
A new iPhone model being announced for shipment in Q4
The release data of Snow Leopard being announced.

Maybe a new Apple TV?

YES! I would definitely buy one! It needs to be upgraded badly.

[inkswamp]

With all this talk about secret messages in the iPhone image, I had to download the whole thing and there's a hidden fourth panel!

http://home.comcast.net/~inkswamp1/apple_numbers.jpg

I knew it! Steve Jobs was part of the Dharma Initiative. The new iPhone is going to require the user to press the home button every 108 minutes.

[txr0ckabilly]

YES! I would definitely buy one! It needs to be upgraded badly.


i just finally bought one yesterday- it would be just my luck...

[utahnguy]

The invitation makes it look like the iPhone will again take center stage. This makes me a bit sad, I was hoping for Snow Leopard to make the news to promote OS X. More and more it looks like Apple is turning into a company that specializes in portable consumer electronics. :(

P-Worm

Well seeing as how any industry expert will tell you that personal, mobile computers are the future and where you'll see most developments, that makes perfect sense. Just a couple months ago laptops outsold their desktop counterparts for the first time and when iPhone-sized devices get a little faster they'll be able to offer most of the functionality that the average user desires from a computer.

I love it because Apple mucked up their first attempt by not marketing the Mac well enough to developers and letting Windows dominate the scene for 20 years and it's like they get a second chance now. The way things are going I can't imagine any other company having the ability to take over the mobile market like Apple does with the iPhone.

Anyways...

I'm sure it's just the pessimist inside, but I have this sneaking suspicion that they won't give us a new iPhone at this event, or even worse, just offer a minor upgrade to the aesthetics and a bump in storage. I hope they realize how many people are expecting an amazing new iPhone and squash any hopes for one if they don't plan on releasing it. I just want something to not only take the wind out of the Palm Pre's sails, (which I think a 3G with 3.0 does anyways) but really rip them down and set fire to them.

[klittle32]

Seriously, who rates posts like this one as negative? Right now, 17 people have clicked "negative".

[swagi]

Actually, reading all three messages, I couldn't help...

there is no way, that the word MAC is hidden in there.

Oh my lord, they are dropping the Mac-name. :eek::eek::eek::eek:

*ducks away*

[NT1440]

I'm sure it's just the pessimist inside, but I have this sneaking suspicion that they won't give us a new iPhone at this event, or even worse, just offer a minor upgrade to the aesthetics and a bump in storage. I hope they realize how many people are expecting an amazing new iPhone and squash any hopes for one if they don't plan on releasing it. I just want something to not only take the wind out of the Palm Pre's sails, (which I think a 3G with 3.0 does anyways) but really rip them down and set fire to them.

I love how everyone expects a second coming every single time......:rolleyes:

[Shunnabunich]

Seriously, who rates posts like this one as negative? Right now, 17 people have clicked "negative".

Being one of the more prominent Apple news/rumour sites, MR is somewhat subject to the activities of Stockholm-Syndrome-suffering Wintrolls. :rolleyes:

[davidbrummy]

I'm about to get a day's worth from the phone and I use it heavily for browsing, texting, calls, various apps, what must you guys be doing on your phones?

I think Apple does a good job on Battery life all in all. Remember its a balance between the current battery technology available, what the device does and its size. It will always be this way becuase as batteries get better but people demand more.

Also remember you can turn off Location Based Services and 3G to save power.

[iSneaker]

I cant wait! Wish it was June already! I will be so happy when they will release some new cool stuff.. I just love Apple..:o:apple:

[polyvw]

The way I figure, Apple needs to release a new product this summer. Peoplle who originally bought the 1gen and didn't upgrade to 3g (me) have our contracts expiring in June/July.

I'm hoping for a new model this summer otherwise I'm probably going to start looking into other options because I really see no benefit to "upgrading" to the 3g. I upgraded and tried it out for two weeks when it came out and it just felt like a waste of an upgrade.

[Lesser Evets]

anybody else trying to find a secret message in the pic?

form the left corner to right bottom corner it reads

MORE

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE

I can't wait for the new OS to come out so people will quit getting giggly about it.
Then we get a new level of expectation with 18 months of squee.

[Stebus]

What would be cool is if it went like this.

Announcer: Now to present the keynote, I give you Phil Schiller!

Crowd: .........

Steve Jobs: *Walks on stage*

Crowd: Huge applause and roar for ten minutes!



Or maybe you could have Phil come on stage and start the keynote, only to have Steve leap from off stage and fly-kick him, then proclaim "Im back bitches!"

At least there would be no more rumours about his health. :P

[Prenvo]

The new iPhone is going to require the user to press the home button every 108 minutes.

Or maybe you could have Phil come on stage and start the keynote, only to have Steve leap from off stage and fly-kick him, then proclaim "Im back bitches!"

Awesome :D

I guess the price could be judged at negative for some people...

[GrannySmith_G5]

Steve is gonna leap on stage looking like a giant. A barbarian. Completely ripped. Biceps like tree trunks. He won't say a word. He'll just stand on the edge of the stage flexing. Neck veins the size of Cuban cigars.

[=MuLti-CeLL=]

A new iPhone model being announced for shipment in Q4

Well, at least we would get some kind of announcement, I could hold out till Q4 as long as I knew for sure it was coming.

COME
CODE
WITH
PROS
WWDC

the elusive iProd :eek:

:eek:

I'm sure it's just the pessimist inside, but I have this sneaking suspicion that they won't give us a new iPhone at this event, or even worse, just offer a minor upgrade to the aesthetics and a bump in storage. I hope they realize how many people are expecting an amazing new iPhone and squash any hopes for one if they don't plan on releasing it. I just want something to not only take the wind out of the Palm Pre's sails, (which I think a 3G with 3.0 does anyways) but really rip them down and set fire to them.

I was gonna hit on this subject a little as well. With as many people here that are SO sure there will be a new iPhone announced this WWDC (myself included) Man OH MAN, do I forsee A HUGE amount of bitching headed our way if they don't. In fact if they do not announce anything new I may not check in for a couple days to let all that sift out a bit. Oh and I'll be picking up a new 3G the next day, so I'm really excited either way, I'm just glad I've held off juuuust in case. :D

[=MuLti-CeLL=]

Steve is gonna leap on stage looking like a giant. A barbarian. Completely ripped. Biceps like tree trunks. He won't say a word. He'll just stand on the edge of the stage flexing. Neck veins the size of Cuban cigars.

Dude that's gonna freak me out. :eek:

[Tallest Skil]

Steve is gonna leap on stage looking like a giant. A barbarian. Completely ripped. Biceps like tree trunks. He won't say a word. He'll just stand on the edge of the stage flexing. Neck veins the size of Cuban cigars.

No way, he just took six months to grow his mustache back.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Technology/Pix/pictures/2007/07/30/jobs-apple-3.jpg

[iParis]

Steve is gonna leap on stage looking like a giant. A barbarian. Completely ripped. Biceps like tree trunks. He won't say a word. He'll just stand on the edge of the stage flexing. Neck veins the size of Cuban cigars.

Then he will say this:
"iPhone OS 3.0 will be released today"
"iPhone [insert name here] will be released on July 14th"
"Mac OS X Snow Leopard will be released today"
"OH. One more thing. [insert insanely new Apple device; such as the xMac, Apple netbook, or Apple tablet]."

In between each announcement he will explain and demo the product.

Crowd: Applause.

[iParis]

No way, he just took six months to grow his mustache back.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Technology/Pix/pictures/2007/07/30/jobs-apple-3.jpg

That would be so cool if he had a mustache when he came back!

[powers74]

As opposed to a picture of an unreleased product?

And to all those who say no tablet, read the above comment


I guess my point was that it just seems odd that they would show an image of a product that was going to be updated physically without obscuring it heavily (i.e. brick event). Or maybe you actually understood what I was saying and I missed your point...

[nick9191]

Anyone else think that Steve in his younger days looks like Freddie Mercury?

We should get that Autistic kid from Mercury Rising to unscramble the message.

[bedifferent]

No way, he just took six months to grow his mustache back.


really creepy 70's/80's headshot *shudder*

[Boneoh]

No way, he just took six months to grow his mustache back.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Technology/Pix/pictures/2007/07/30/jobs-apple-3.jpg

I'm just jealous because he has hair and I don't :mad:

Seriously, I am so looking forward to this, made the reservations and bought the eticket today. This is my rookie season for WWDC :D

[JavaWizKid]

Roll on Snow Leopard!!! :D

[Commodore 64]

But how is it with media coverage at WWDC?

I thought Apple always invited the press for the releases of new products. Or is it usually different with the conferences? Can´t see them pushing out devoted programmers from the conference hall to get in some extra media guys. Hey, wait a sec, they´re all attending already, aren´t they :)

...how big is the biggest hall at the conference anyway? If I would go there it would annoy me the rest of my life to know that I was waiting out in the foyeer when the biggest news of the year were rolled out...

[ghettochris]

only 1768 hours to go

[richard.mac]

Every time. Every time, without fail, Apple releases a new preview image or email, and I say, "Oh, good. For once this one is actually straightforward and not cryptic at all."

And then these people say, "Oh, that icon is purple instead of green!" or, in October, "Oh, see the spacing of the Apple logo in relation to the size of the screen? That laptop is really, really small! It must be a MacBook Nano!"

Nonsense.:D

Personally, I would have thought that since we're NEVER right about this stuff that we'd have given up by now.

It's fun all the same; I'm actually curious why they wouldn't have simply used green, blue, blue, orange in favor of purple, blue, green, orange...:rolleyes:

yeah but do you reckon that just becuase the invitation pictures an iPhone Apple will not meantion anything to about Snow Leopard? i hope not :eek:.

[powers74]

Tallest, That mustache is clearly a fake, you fakey fakerson. Even i could pull off a better fake than that! I ran that crap thru Photo shop there is clearly WAAAY too much artifacting going on around that stache, not to mention the huge photoshopped section in the background. Did you really think no one would catch this?164322

[iMacoo7]

Well, at least we would get some kind of announcement, I could hold out till Q4 as long as I knew for sure it was coming.



:eek:



I was gonna hit on this subject a little as well. With as many people here that are SO sure there will be a new iPhone announced this WWDC (myself included) Man OH MAN, do I forsee A HUGE amount of bitching headed our way if they don't. In fact if they do not announce anything new I may not check in for a couple days to let all that sift out a bit. Oh and I'll be picking up a new 3G the next day, so I'm really excited either way, I'm just glad I've held off juuuust in case. :D
I am in the same boat with both of you.
I too am hoping for a new iPhone, whether it be a memory bump or cosmetic.... Either way is fine.
Its just mind boggling that last year this time , we had some sort of pictures to go on *The iPhone that had the black casing that most thought was fake*
We also were getting reports of ATT receiving allot of boxes as well as getting notification that a ton of crates were coming in for Apple.....
Either way , Ill still be devoted to standing outside and this time with my wife (As I have converted her into getting one this year and camping out).

[HONDAxACURA]

Snow Leopard Preview!!! Please!!!!!

[Stately]

:D

The funny thing is that it doesn't look like people learnt from last year!!

Hahaaa . . I had a good laugh off of that one. I was definitely one of those:D. I really hope they release one though. I've bee anticipating forever it seems lol.

[AidenShaw]

...how big is the biggest hall at the conference anyway? If I would go there it would annoy me the rest of my life to know that I was waiting out in the foyeer when the biggest news of the year were rolled out...

The 3rd floor hall is 87,000 square feet for the main rectangle - longer than an American football field and almost twice as wide.

It can accommodate just over 6,000 people in the 3rd floor ballroom. Apple has configured for about 4,000 people in previous events. (Note that the 6K number is determined by the capacity of the emergency exits in the room, not by the total size.)

http://www.moscone.com/mtgplanners/floorplans/west/third.shtml

[utahnguy]

I guess my point was that it just seems odd that they would show an image of a product that was going to be updated physically without obscuring it heavily (i.e. brick event). Or maybe you actually understood what I was saying and I missed your point...

You might be new to following Apple product launches, but at NO TIME in the past have they made an effort to do what you're talking about. The last event that comes to mind is when they announced 100% completely redesigned MacBooks/MacBook Pros and used an invitation highlighting a then current model. Showing a current iPhone in this invitation means absolutely nothing. Nada. Zilch. Now move along people, there's nothing more to discuss about the matter.

[Commodore 64]

Maybe I should clarify my question...

Is it likely that Apple will present some new worldsaving product without massive media coverage? (I don´t know the history on this, that´s why I´m asking)

...and if so, would the media get some advance notice, and how early then?

[Raviolio]

It says EROM. Finally, Apple is bringing the world-class technology of EROM to its users.

Actually, according to the secret message, there will be free ham at WWDC:

MAKE
YOUR
MARK
HERE


The ham will only be free if you already have an iPork.

However, if you have an iPork Touch then there will be a $9.95 upgrade fee.

[lazyrighteye]

i think they will do an ichat with him, as a surprise guest.

THAT... would kick lots if ass.

[AidenShaw]

Steve is gonna leap on stage looking like a giant.

I wouldn't expect to see Jobs at all at WWDC.

Even if he's able, I think that Apple and its directors realize that the "Steve personality cult" was no longer a good thing for Apple.

They're grooming a new set of "front men" (and "set" is important, they don't want another dominant spokesperson). To have the triumphant return of the Lord God Jobs would undermine that succession planning.

They don't want to return to the situation where the stock price is tied to the health reports on one person.

If he is recovering and will soon be returning to Apple, (and I hope so), I wouldn't be surprised by a relatively low-key appearance sometime during the week. I wouldn't expect that at the keynote, though, because anything that Apple was trying to announce would be lost in the "Jobs Is Back!" and "Does He Look OK?" mania.


Maybe I should clarify my question...

Is it likely that Apple will present some new worldsaving product without massive media coverage?

The question really is "will the worldsaving product be announced at WWDC?", I think.

And the answer should be "no" - Apple doesn't want to tie major product announcements to events that run on a fixed schedule. They want to announce when the product is ready - whether it's before or after the event. MacWorld SF was awful timing - right after the holiday season. WWDC is better, but too early for a holiday launch - any product buzz is gone before the holiday shopping season starts.

Also, remember that WWDC used to be a developer's conference before it became the Summer MacWorld. I would think that there would be some at Apple who would want to return it to the status of a developer conference.

[hayesk]

that price to attend is insanity!!

You do realize this is a 5 day developer conference right? The keynote is not the reason to attend.

[casik]

I think it's fairly obvious that the iPhone will see a hardware change. With rumors on the internet of some carriers discontinuing models it is quite obvious. I say this order at the keynote:

- first snow leopard in all it's awesomeness

- second a brief touch on iPhone 3.0 and then after people have been anticipating it all keynote they will unvail the new 8gb, 16gb and 32gb iPhones with price points of $149, $224 and $299... or just the new 16gb and 32gb at $199 and $299 respectivly. They will for certain have faster processors and a slight design change.

- third they will tie in all the new changes of the iPhone 3.0 software to hardware and everyone will wet their pants with excitement.

[lostngone]

Tallest, That mustache is clearly a fake, you fakey fakerson. Even i could pull off a better fake than that! I ran that crap thru Photo shop there is clearly WAAAY too much artifacting going on around that stache, not to mention the huge photoshopped section in the background. Did you really think no one would catch this?164322

Steve Jobs is going to make you cry before he kicks your ass!!!

http://www.brice.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/stevejobs_young.jpg

[AidenShaw]

Steve Jobs is going to make you cry before he kicks your ass!!!

http://www.brice.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/stevejobs_young.jpg

So trendy even back then - fingernail polish on one hand....

[nickXedge]

You may want to add an image so that people aren't wondering what the heck you're talking about. Took me a minute to get at least.

Ahh.. I got it once I read this post.

[NT1440]

So trendy even back then - fingernail polish on one hand....

That actually looks like a bloody fingernail from being crushed, not fun.

[JGowan]

The invitation makes it look like the iPhone will again take center stage. This makes me a bit sad, I was hoping for Snow Leopard to make the news to promote OS X. More and more it looks like Apple is turning into a company that specializes in portable consumer electronics. :(

P-WormDon't be sad. Be glad!

Seriously, it'll be both. They were able to really be clever with the 4 letter words (ha) on the front of the phone so they went with that instead of somehow being clever in another manner with Snow Leopard. They'll be plenty to talk about with Snow Leopard I'm sure.

But we're probably going to get 3.0 goodness along with a preview of 3rd Gen. of the iPhone so that totally rocks.

In their zeal to promote the iPhone, Apple seems to be increasingly leaving the Mac and OS X by the wayside.SNOW LEOPARD. HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT!? Also, in 2009 (as recent as 3/3/9) we got updated Minis, iMacs and Mac Pros + 17" Mac Book Pros in January and Mac Books and 15" Mac Book Pros in Late Fall. Oh and (whether you love/hate it) a new 4GB Shuffle.

You are WAY OFF BASE if you think the Mac and OS X is on the wayside.

[=MuLti-CeLL=]

Its just mind boggling that last year this time , we had some sort of pictures to go on *The iPhone that had the black casing that most thought was fake*
We also were getting reports of ATT receiving allot of boxes as well as getting notification that a ton of crates were coming in for Apple.....

Trust me. Give it time. We have ALL of April and May to go. If you do a little research, as I did about a month ago, you'll see that last year before the 3G was announced the Rumor Mill really caught fire around mid April and then continued and rolled into May with just ridiculous amounts of Rumors.

I'm actually suprised we've seen some of the rumors we have so early this time around. We've already got 1 'leaked photo' with the matte black case and there's news of video conferencing at least once every two weeks (just like before the 3G :D)

We havn't even got started good yet, just you wait. You'll be so damned confused and over-anticipating by the time June 8th hit's you won't have a clue what to think!

Tip: keep expectations "low". makes it a little easier when they don't give you what (anything) you want. ;)

You might be new to following Apple product launches, but at NO TIME in the past have they made an effort to do what you're talking about. The last event that comes to mind is when they announced 100% completely redesigned MacBooks/MacBook Pros and used an invitation highlighting a then current model. Showing a current iPhone in this invitation means absolutely nothing. Nada. Zilch. Now move along people, there's nothing more to discuss about the matter.


Interesting. Thanks for that bit of information.

[JGowan]

P E E D
P N T S
O V E R
N E W S

[=MuLti-CeLL=]

Peed
Pnts
Over
News

Dang it won't let all CAPS them...?? WTF?!

I noticed that too, pissed me off! :mad:

[BryanBensing]

[Registration is $1295 before April 24th, after which the price will increase to $1595.]

With that money I rather buy a laptop (Apple of course) :p

[inkswamp]

However, if you have an iPork Touch then there will be a $9.95 upgrade fee.

Please, let's all collectively hope Apple always has the wisdom never to release a product called iPork Touch. That would be disgusting on so many levels. And even worse if they ever stole the "squirting" feature from the Zune.

Eww. Just... eww.

[eddietr]

[Registration is $1295 before April 24th, after which the price will increase to $1595.]

With that money I rather buy a laptop (Apple of course) :p

I think you might be missing the point. The vast majority of the people who go to this every year already have Macs, because we develop on these things. The $1295 isn't for the keynote. It's for all the information and education over the week that help us do our jobs.

[jnguyen4]

does this mean my iphone 3g is going to be lame in 2 and a half months?

[AidenShaw]

[Registration is $1295 before April 24th, after which the price will increase to $1595.]

With that money I rather buy a laptop (Apple of course) :p

It's clear that you're not a developer who would go to a five day conference to learn about how to prepare for changes in the new versions of the operating systems.

As others have said many times already, $1600 for a five day conference is on the low side. I do several a year that are $2000 or more for three days.

Look at it in context. A senior developer in the US is probably making $2000 per week - so the conference is quite a bit less than her salary for that one week. A convenient downtown business hotel is a good deal at $200/night - another $1200 or so depending on flight connections. Flights, another big chunk of money. Connections to downtown - not cheap unless (like me) you're OK with getting on BART at the airport and taking mass transit into the city.

WWDC is a training session for senior leads in engineering - not a "joy ride" for fanbois to watch a Stevenote. The price is justified.


does this mean my iphone 3g is going to be lame in 2 and a half months?

It's already lame - where's your copy-and-paste?

[fleshman03]

Please, let's all collectively hope Apple always has the wisdom never to release a product called iPork Touch. That would be disgusting on so many levels. And even worse if they ever stole the "squirting" feature from the Zune.

Eww. Just... eww.

I could imagine a lot of Jewish people have issues using such a device...

haha

[Full of Win]

OMG - they are going to release a porno lawn mower add-on for Garage Band!

I know this because "make your mark here wwdc" is an anagram for "A Whacker Drum Key Mower"

Gentleman... we are looking through the looking glass :eek:

[powers74]

You might be new to following Apple product launches, but at NO TIME in the past have they made an effort to do what you're talking about. The last event that comes to mind is when they announced 100% completely redesigned MacBooks/MacBook Pros and used an invitation highlighting a then current model. Showing a current iPhone in this invitation means absolutely nothing. Nada. Zilch. Now move along people, there's nothing more to discuss about the matter.


I gotchya. I had forgotten it was the (then) current model - I'm back on track now!

[powers74]

OMG - they are going to release a porno lawn mower add-on for Garage Band!

I know this because "make your mark here wwdc" is an anagram for "A Whacker Drum Key Mower"

Gentleman... we are looking through the looking glass :eek:

I never type this, but; L.M.A.O.

[inkswamp]

SNOW LEOPARD. HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT!? Also, in 2009 (as recent as 3/3/9) we got updated Minis, iMacs and Mac Pros + 17" Mac Book Pros in January and Mac Books and 15" Mac Book Pros in Late Fall. Oh and (whether you love/hate it) a new 4GB Shuffle.

You are WAY OFF BASE if you think the Mac and OS X is on the wayside.

Uh-huh, those Mac updates. The ones that Apple didn't think were significant enough to merit any kind of event even though a peek at their as-yet unreleased iPhone 3.0 OS did? A Mac update that included the Mini after it was neglected for well over a year? You think that reassures people? It doesn't for me. An extensive and overdue update to the Mac line-up merits almost no fanfare, but the iPhone OS did. Yeah, not too reassuring.

The reality is that Apple got those out so now they only have to spend a couple minutes on them in the keynote. "We just refreshed the Mac line-up... blah blah... selling great... customers love them... look at this pretty sales figure chart we made in Keynote... blah blah... now onto iPhone."

Look at the major events from the last couple years. The iPhone has dominated and frankly, it's getting a little tiresome and I think people will have every right to gripe if Apple does it again at WWDC.

[Andrew K.]

My mom's 3G iPhone was non-repairable and she really needed a phone for her business so I gave her mine. I'll be using a pebl til the new iPhone comes out, I wasn't going to upgrade but ya gotta help family out right :) ?

[kainjow]

Look at the major events from the last couple years. The iPhone has dominated and frankly, it's getting a little tiresome and I think people will have every right to gripe if Apple does it again at WWDC.

Of course they are going to focus on the iPhone, because Apple is a business and businesses make profits.

[4mat]

Wirelessly posted (SAMSUNG-SGH-A821/1.0 SHP/VPP/R5 NetFront/3.4 SMM-MMS/1.2.0 profile/MIDP-2.0 configuration/CLDC-1.1)

I think we'll see Snow Leopard there. Or at least a release date. Didn't they have Leopard and the first iPhone launching around the same time.

[MrCrowbar]

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I think we'll see Snow Leopard there. Or at least a release date. Didn't they have Leopard and the first iPhone launching around the same time.

I read from a lot of people trying out the current Dev Version of Snow Leopard that it's still way too buggy to be released in June. So I guess we'll get some demo of Snow Leopard stressing the even fuller 64 bit support and some graphs comparing it to the performance of Leopard.

Maybe there'll be one killer feature (like Spotlight for Tiger and Time Machine for Leopard) to make people upgrade that think their Mac is plenty fast with Leopard. Resolution Independence could be such a feature; the framework was already there for Leopard and Apple told 3rd party Devs to make everything resolution independent. But that feature got silently dropped from Leopard.

Resolution independence would be useful on the fabled 10" tablet Mac. It would make sense for a tablet to have a higher resolution than an iMac (100PPI) and a Macbook (130) because you typically hold it closer to your head when operating. 150 PPI would be adequate I guess, that's 1280x800 (Macbook resolution) on a 10" display. The iPhone has 160 PPI by the way. Zooming in and out would be needed so you can accurately tap tiny buttons on the regular Mac OSX. Every Mac can already zoom (CTRL + scroll up), but it looks rather ugly because it just scales the pixels. 150 PPi would make for an awesome PDF viewing device (eBook Reader). Imagine a service technician carrying all the user and service manuals of all the devices he's servicing. He could also print out relevant instructions for the user thanks to OSX abundant printer drivers. Of course he could do that with a Macbook, too, but a tablet is much more portable. A slot for a 3G SIM card would be nice, too.

[Apple Architect]

Surely this refers to a tablet Mac netbook.

I bet Safari will be snappy !!!

[powers74]

Steve Jobs is going to make you cry before he kicks your ass!!!




If ever there was a baddass shot of jobs. Too bad he's not holding a bat or crowbar or something!

[lftrghtparadigm]

It's clear that you're not a developer who would go to a five day conference to learn about how to prepare for changes in the new versions of the operating systems.

As others have said many times already, $1600 for a five day conference is on the low side. I do several a year that are $2000 or more for three days.

Look at it in context. A senior developer in the US is probably making $2000 per week - so the conference is quite a bit less than her salary for that one week. A convenient downtown business hotel is a good deal at $200/night - another $1200 or so depending on flight connections. Flights, another big chunk of money. Connections to downtown - not cheap unless (like me) you're OK with getting on BART at the airport and taking mass transit into the city.

WWDC is a training session for senior leads in engineering - not a "joy ride" for fanbois to watch a Stevenote. The price is justified.




It's already lame - where's your copy-and-paste?


What about those of us struggling to get by? Do we not deserve the same experience and helpful knowledge/education?

Actually I bet we need it more than you, or at least by your logic we do.

I love developing, but I'm still new to it and not making very much money. Like most people, $2000 for a week would break me.

[jouster]

WWDC is a training session for senior leads in engineering - not a "joy ride" for fanbois to watch a Stevenote. The price is justified.


+++

Should've been in the OP. Or a sticky. This ain't MacWorld.

What about those of us struggling to get by? Do we not deserve the same experience and helpful knowledge/education?


Sure. But does Apple not deserve to be remunerated for providing it?

[Boneoh]

What about those of us struggling to get by? Do we not deserve the same experience and helpful knowledge/education?

...

I love developing, but I'm still new to it and not making very much money. Like most people, $2000 for a week would break me.

The presentations from WWDC are available after. Everyone deserves it and it will be available. Of course there are many things that are only available at the conference, like the one on one interaction, etc. that are only possible when you attend.

I understand your dilemma, it's hard to afford this for many folks. As a previous poster explained, this is not a money maker for Apple, they try to hit a break-even on the costs. It's helpful if you can write off the expense.

So the eticket is $1295, the hotel for me for this trip is $1500. That includes two or three extra nights, depending on how you look at it. We are staying Sun. through Fri. in SF, and one night each way riding up there and coming back. Since we are driving up from So. Cal., but those extra nights and the gas are about the same as us flying up. Then add in meals, a little fun time, etc. maybe another $500. So I am estimating about $3300 for this trip. Maybe a bit more if I buy some T shirts for the kids and grandson. So maybe $3500. So the admission is about 37% of the cost.

Another way to look at this is to compare this to other training classes from third parties. I've looked at a few, and some are more expensive for a weeks' training. Others are about the same.

[firewood]

[Registration is $1295 before April 24th, after which the price will increase to $1595.]

With that money I rather buy a laptop (Apple of course) :p

Excellent! The high price is to discourage tourists and fanbois from taking up space at WWDC. Serious Mac and iPhone developers, many who make enough money that the WWDC expense is only a small to tiny fraction of their (or their companies) income, don't want to be crowded out by the riff-raff, and want to network with other professional developers.

imho

[kasei]

Tarver Games, LLC will be there to debut our new game.

[DPA]

COME
CODE
WITH
PROS
WWDC

the elusive iProd :eek:

For anyone who doesn't understand this:

The file references products known as "iPhone3,1", "iPod3,1", "iFPGA", and "iProd0,1".

It was a hidden product reference in the iPhone 3.0. Here's (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/19/iphone-os-3-0-beta-references-four-unknown-products/) the MR article link.

David

[satcomer]

at WWDC?


I hope WWDC doesn't turn into "New iPhone Hardware/OS day" every year.

That is exactly what I am thinking.

[snowleopard48]

Will Steve Jobs be giving the keynote?

That's the $64,000 question

I hope so:rolleyes:... If it's not him, I bet it will be phil.:mad:
But then again, it could be Scott Forstall for the iphone, and the osx guy for snow leopard:D

[MikeTheC]

I'd go to WWDC, but I charge for my time, and I can guarantee it would be far in excess of the $1600ish price Apple wants to charge everyone else.

[twoodcc]

i sure wish i was going to this. someday i will. can't wait to learn more about snow leopard and snow leopard server!

[snowleopard48]

its about time apple gave away these dates. :) i don't think i am going to be able to wait till early june now that i know whats being announced!!! :eek:

[DavidFulero]

Man I heard about the new iPhone like a week after I ordered mine lol,
I was like "****"
lol, but 32 gb, thats pretty exciting, if it's true

[crees!]

http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/sessions/

[crees!]

For those of you who have been to WWDC before how do the sessions/labs work? Do you have to signup ahead of time, once you get there, or is it first-come first-served till all the space is filled. Any other bits of info you can offer on getting into the sessions you want to attend? I see the sessions are listed but no schedule/times, yet.

[lostngone]

For those of you who have been to WWDC before how do the sessions/labs work? Do you have to signup ahead of time, once you get there, or is it first-come first-served till all the space is filled. Any other bits of info you can offer on getting into the sessions you want to attend? I see the sessions are listed but no schedule/times, yet.

Each session is first-come first-serve, however I would say with the sessions 95% of them you can always squeeze in and find a seat or sit alone the wall(depending on if the fire marshall/dept is doing an inspection). It really varies year from year. However, last year it was kinda crazy with some of the iPhone session.

They have technology labs that are open all day that you can go in and just ask questions. I don't know how fast the lab sessions(if they even still have them) fill up, the last lab I went to was 2 years ago.


Also for the keynote, showing up 2 hours early in NOT enough. Maybe it will be different if Steve isn't there.

[iphonerain]

I haven't attended wwdc08.... if we don't happen to be lucky enough to live in the vicinity of where this is being held... as a developer... is it worth it to spend $1295+airfare+transportation+meals+hotel in this economy? I'm terribly tempted to argue that it is.....

[crees!]

I haven't attended wwdc08.... if we don't happen to be lucky enough to live in the vicinity of where this is being held... as a developer... is it worth it to spend $1295+airfare+transportation+meals+hotel in this economy? I'm terribly tempted to argue that it is.....

Well I got my ticket. The way I see it is going to this conference is an investment; and if I build an app that sells well I'll make that money spent back and then some. Plus I just bought an iPod Touch solely for development. Another investment in my eyes. Just need to not over-invest, just yet ;)