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djstarrock
Mar 31, 2009, 05:18 PM
I'm wondering if I should get just buy the Canon 55-250mm IS or should I save up for 70-200mm f/4L IS? I can get the 70-200L for about 900-1000 and the 55-200 for about 160-180.

Off-topic:
Can you buy from B&H if your in UK?



Cliff3
Mar 31, 2009, 05:31 PM
Off-topic:
Can you buy from B&H if your in UK?

Yes, they ship internationally: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/HelpCenter/Shipping.jsp#shippingDest. Also, be alert to their holidays and hours of operations: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/HelpCenter/HoursOfOperation.jsp

Can't help you with the lens, I'm a Nikon shooter.

AlaskaMoose
Mar 31, 2009, 08:39 PM
Double post, and this forum's software does not allow me to delete it. I apologize.

AlaskaMoose
Mar 31, 2009, 08:40 PM
I'm wondering if I should get just buy the Canon 55-250mm IS or should I save up for 70-200mm f/4L IS? I can get the 70-200L for about 900-1000 and the 55-200 for about 160-180.

Off-topic:
Can you buy from B&H if your in UK?

I would save for the 70-200mm f/4L. The 70-200mm f/2.8 would be even better, but it costs quite a lot more than the f/4.
Take a look:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=278617

ChrisBrightwell
Mar 31, 2009, 09:37 PM
Skip them both and get the 70-200 2.8 L.

apearlman
Mar 31, 2009, 10:04 PM
I'm wondering if I should get just buy the Canon 55-250mm IS or should I save up for 70-200mm f/4L IS? I can get the 70-200L for about 900-1000 and the 55-200 for about 160-180.


Is it worth it? Answer: it depends on how important 700 is to you.
If money is tight, the L lens isn't worth it no matter how great it is.

If you save up for the 70-200L, what will you use for a telephoto in the meantime? If the answer is "nothing," I'd suggest you buy the 55-250 now, and keep saving. Then when (if) you can get the 70-200L, sell the 55-250. This way, you'll be able to shoot that focal length right now, instead of waiting until you can afford the better lens.

jbernie
Mar 31, 2009, 10:18 PM
If you have a need right now, then saving up is pointless as the need may have passed. If you are just looking to expand your lens collection etc then I would suggest saving up for the L lens is the way to go.

The price difference says alot, you will be able to do more with the 70-200 f4 and then once you save up enough you will be on here asking the next question.....

"I can buy the 70-200 f/4 IS now, but should I save up the extra for the 70-200 f/2.8L IS?"

:D

Abstract
Mar 31, 2009, 10:25 PM
I would save for the 70-200mm f/4L. The 70-200mm f/2.8 would be even better, but it costs quite a lot more than the f/4.
Take a look:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=278617

Yes, the 70-200 mm f/2.8 and f/4 are both better, but the OP really should ask himself if he wants to deal with the increased size and weight of those lenses. The f/4 would be more bearable, but it's still extra size and weight. Also, isn't the Canon version the 55-250 mm with IS? That's the version I'd get. It would only cost you a bit more, it's supposed to be pretty sharp, and it has IS as well.

Grimace
Mar 31, 2009, 10:49 PM
Definitely go for the 70-200mm, it's a much better lens.

rhett7660
Mar 31, 2009, 11:01 PM
I love my f/4L lens. I didn't have enough money to get the 2.8 lens at the time so I picked this one up. Great lens. Not so great in real low light conditions but for out door shooting. I haven't used it in a studio yet thou. But I have a feeling it wouldn't be half bad there either!

djstarrock
Apr 1, 2009, 12:54 AM
I found I can get 70-200mm f/4L IS for 700 used is this a good deal?

wheelhot
Apr 1, 2009, 01:01 AM
Well after much consideration, my original target was a 70-200 f/2.8 IS, then after a lot of thinking and research, I reset my goal and it is now to own 70-200 f/4 IS, beside the obvious price difference, I realize that the being half the weight of a 2.8 means a lot. And the smaller size and lighter weight will make it comfortable for use over long period. Besides, it seems f/4 is SHARPER then f/2.8, last time I dont believe this but after going through, threads and threads I decided that the f/4 IS is the next lens for me. Well Im not saying the f/2.8 is bad either, but unless you are getting paid professionally for your work, den the f/4 is a worthy contender.

Some ppl owns both f/4 IS and f/2.8 IS, they use f/2.8 IS during paid low light events, other then that, f/4 all the way.

Kebabselector
Apr 1, 2009, 01:41 AM
I found I can get 70-200mm f/4L IS for 700 used is this a good deal?

Yes, cheapest I can find in the UK is 929. But that's in a store I wouldn't use. Check it's not an import as you may be liable for import duty and VAT on receipt of the goods.

Also it is worth considering the no IS version of the 70-200 f/4. I have it and it's superb (half the price of the IS version as well). As for the suggestion to get the 70-200 f/2.8 IS. O.k it is great, but costs 1499 (and it's heavy).

I wouldn't totally discount the 55-250 though, it's not L glass, but I've not met anyone who doesn't like it.

toxic
Apr 1, 2009, 01:47 AM
get the 55-250 first. it's good and it'll give you an idea of what you want in your next lens, like if you need the 70-200 f/2.8 for the extra stop, or if the f/4 IS will be fine.

Edge100
Apr 1, 2009, 05:54 AM
I'm wondering if I should get just buy the Canon 55-250mm IS or should I save up for 70-200mm f/4L IS? I can get the 70-200L for about 900-1000 and the 55-200 for about 160-180.

Off-topic:
Can you buy from B&H if your in UK?

The 70-200 f/4L IS is the sharpest zoom Canon makes. It is tack sharp wide open and gets better from there. Its IQ is better than the non-IS, or either of the 2.8L zooms.

That said, it's a stop slower than the 2.8, so if you're shooting moving objects, f/4 might not be enough.

The f/4 non-IS is also a great lens; optically on par with the f/2.8L, but obviously slower. If you want the best IQ in a 70-200 zoom, go with the f/4L IS. If you need faster glass, get the f/2.8L non-IS.

wheelhot
Apr 1, 2009, 05:57 AM
The 70-200 f/4L IS is the sharpest zoom Canon makes. It is tack sharp wide open and gets better from there. Its IQ is better than the non-IS, or either of the 2.8L zooms.

That said, it's a stop slower than the 2.8, so if you're shooting moving objects, f/4 might not be enough.

The f/4 non-IS is also a great lens; optically on par with the f/2.8L, but obviously slower. If you want the best IQ in a 70-200 zoom, go with the f/4L IS. If you need faster glass, get the f/2.8L non-IS.
yup, Edge basically nailed that one, all of his points is correct and yea f/4 is SHARPER then f/2.8, guess the f/2.8 replacement will be sharper?

Anyway, just to add a few things, it is worth it to get the the IS version cuz without IS, at 200mm, your shutter need to be at least 1/200 to shoot handheld!

Scarlet Fever
Apr 1, 2009, 06:04 AM
the 70-200 f/4L IS is phenomenal. I wouldn't trade it for anything else. Seriously. It has incredible sharpness across the whole zoom and aperture range, the focus is pin point, the 4-stop IS is brilliant (reasonably sharp hand held shots at ISO100, f/4 and 1/50 @ 200mm?!?) and the weight and size is perfect.

It's half the weight of the f/2.8, and what do you lose, that extra stop? Meh... I'd rather have my back.

Edge100
Apr 1, 2009, 09:51 AM
Just for interests sake:

Here's the f/4L IS vs. the f/4L non-IS @ f/4 (wide open for both), 70mm

http://the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?CameraComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0&Lens=404&Camera=9&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=104

and now the f/4L IS vs. the f/2.8L non-IS @ f/4 (2.8 stopped down to f/4), 70mm

http://the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=404&Camera=9&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=242&CameraComp=9&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=2

Notice how stunningly sharp the f/4L IS is. The f/2.8L and f/4L non-IS lenses are what I would call "sharp" at f/4, but the f/4IS is in a different league. It's an awesome, awesome lens.

djstarrock
Apr 1, 2009, 11:24 AM
Yes, cheapest I can find in the UK is 929. But that's in a store I wouldn't use. Check it's not an import as you may be liable for import duty and VAT on receipt of the goods.

Also it is worth considering the no IS version of the 70-200 f/4. I have it and it's superb (half the price of the IS version as well). As for the suggestion to get the 70-200 f/2.8 IS. O.k it is great, but costs 1499 (and it's heavy).

I wouldn't totally discount the 55-250 though, it's not L glass, but I've not met anyone who doesn't like it.

Well it's from America from a user on POTN.

Kebabselector
Apr 1, 2009, 02:26 PM
Well it's from America from a user on POTN.

If it's 2nd hand then tax/import duty may not apply. I'm no tax expert though, personally I wouldn't get a 2nd hand lens from abroad.

Phrasikleia
Apr 1, 2009, 02:37 PM
If it's 2nd hand then tax/import duty may not apply. I'm no tax expert though, personally I wouldn't get a 2nd hand lens from abroad.

Those duties do apply on used items. The cost will end up being much higher by the time customs is done with it.

AlaskaMoose
Apr 1, 2009, 09:34 PM
Well after much consideration, my original target was a 70-200 f/2.8 IS, then after a lot of thinking and research, I reset my goal and it is now to own 70-200 f/4 IS, beside the obvious price difference, I realize that the being half the weight of a 2.8 means a lot. And the smaller size and lighter weight will make it comfortable for use over long period. Besides, it seems f/4 is SHARPER then f/2.8, last time I dont believe this but after going through, threads and threads I decided that the f/4 IS is the next lens for me. Well Im not saying the f/2.8 is bad either, but unless you are getting paid professionally for your work, den the f/4 is a worthy contender.

Some ppl owns both f/4 IS and f/2.8 IS, they use f/2.8 IS during paid low light events, other then that, f/4 all the way.

The 70-200mm f/4L is an outstanding lens, but in f/2.8 it gathers more light, is bulkier, and costs twice as much. According to those who use both, the f/4L may produce not necessarily sharper images, but perhaps slightly better color rendition.

Between the two lenses talked about by the OP, the other isn't even close to the 70-200mm f/4L.

djstarrock
Apr 2, 2009, 10:59 AM
Those duties do apply on used items. The cost will end up being much higher by the time customs is done with it.

Well I can get one for 800 used from UK.