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srobert
Apr 16, 2004, 08:32 AM
:D

I was'nt sure if this is current event material or community discussion but I just had to bring that tou your attention. That made my day. Now that's entertainment. I hope he got kicked in the nuts.

Extract from the article:

PHILADELPHIA - A man who was tackled and beaten by a group of Roman Catholic schoolgirls after he flashed them outside their high school was sentenced Wednesday to 10 months to two years in prison...

Susando was arrested Oct. 30 when more than a dozen girls from St. Maria Goretti High School for Girls, with the help of a bystander, chased him and wrestled him to the ground and held him for police. When he resisted, the girls kicked him repeatedly. He was taken to a hospital and treated for minor injuries to his mouth.



—> Link to the Whole Article <— (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=816&ncid=816&e=14&u=/ap/20040414/ap_on_fe_st/students_flasher)

Giaguara
Apr 16, 2004, 09:25 AM
As being America. .. is the flasher going to put charges agianst the schoolgirls for beating him up? :D

Mantat
Apr 16, 2004, 09:41 AM
Sorry but I have to say that the beavior of the crowd was problematic. Even tho the flasher did something terribly wrong, it doesnt deserve the treatement he got. Violence seems to be the overly used these days...

ExoticFish
Apr 16, 2004, 09:57 AM
i dunno, i think he did get what he deserved. i mean if they had seriously hurt him then that would have been overkill perhaps but giving him some bruises seems like justice to me.

srobert
Apr 16, 2004, 10:00 AM
For once, he was on the receiving end of the stick. (Oh wait... could that be a pun?) :D

phillymjs
Apr 16, 2004, 10:00 AM
Sorry but I have to say that the beavior of the crowd was problematic. Even tho the flasher did something terribly wrong, it doesnt deserve the treatement he got. Violence seems to be the overly used these days...

Actually, I might agree with you if this was just a single occurrence. What the story doesn't say is that the guy was a serial flasher and had been plaguing the school for some time without getting caught by police. The girls were quite frustrated that this scumbag had eluded capture. He resisted when they attempted to detain him until the cops showed up, so they enthusiastically subdued him.

I say he got what he deserved, and I'm far from alone. The 'victims turn tables on perv' angle made this big news back when it happened-- the story made CNN and I think a couple of the girls were even on Good Morning America or another one of the national morning yack shows.

~Philly

edesignuk
Apr 16, 2004, 10:04 AM
Sorry but I have to say that the beavior of the crowd was problematic. Even tho the flasher did something terribly wrong, it doesnt deserve the treatement he got. Violence seems to be the overly used these days...
Are you kidding me? This is brilliant! This should be standard for people who do this sort of thing outside schools. :D

iGav
Apr 16, 2004, 10:28 AM
Are you kidding me? This is brilliant! This should be standard for people who do this sort of thing outside schools. :D

;)

kettle
Apr 16, 2004, 10:34 AM
Sorry but I have to say that the beavior of the crowd was problematic. Even tho the flasher did something terribly wrong, it doesnt deserve the treatement he got. Violence seems to be the overly used these days...

What you're saying is that - if the man had only kept his dirty mac buttoned up, we could have put some typically violent schoolgirls behind bars where they belong?

Why I don't like your world is probably why I'm not so keen on the real world today.

never mind, it's not like we can vote on this kind of crap.

Mantat
Apr 16, 2004, 10:42 AM
Following your line of logic, cuting the hand of a thief is a good punishement, throwing rock at a woman caught in adultery, etc... These are primitive way to react.

Just think about what these action teach to the children: violence is the only way to solve a problem...

Now think of what would have happen if the guy defended himself! It would have been legitimate defence againts assault which grant total protection againts the law. Violence brings more violence, I cant think of a single exemple where violence solved a problem for good (Irak, Palestine, Tibet, Rwanda, my high school in the good old days...)

Personnaly, I think they should have photographed the man. If it wasnt the first time he was there, I guess it wouldnt have been that hard. With this evidence, the police would have been more able to handle the case.

Lyle
Apr 16, 2004, 11:20 AM
Sorry but I have to say that the beavior of the crowd was problematic. Even tho the flasher did something terribly wrong, it doesnt deserve the treatement he got. Violence seems to be the overly used these days...You've got to love the MacRumors bunch. I wondered how long it would take for someone to pop up and defend the flasher's rights against the evil schoolchildren.

Awimoway
Apr 16, 2004, 12:22 PM
You've got to love the MacRumors bunch. I wondered how long it would take for someone to pop up and defend the flasher's rights against the evil schoolchildren.

You've got to love misinformation. No one's defending the right to flash, only the right not to get brutalized for a nonviolent crime. And if you have so much contempt for "the MacRumors bunch," what the hell are you doing here with a registered name?

On the other hand, I would be interested to know what Mantat thinks they should have done. Because this kind of thing is likely quite terrifying. Moreover, it can lead to worse crimes. The flasher was chased and wrestled down in what sounds like as humane a means as possible. It was only when he tried to get away that he took a beating in order to keep him in custody until the authorities arrived.

From the story:
"There was a consistent pattern; he showed up when the girls were arriving at school in the morning. He targeted them." DeSantis said. "These are the kinds of crimes that escalate to touching, and then to rape."

bousozoku
Apr 16, 2004, 12:30 PM
Being a former Philadelphia area person, I'm all for taking on the bad guys. There is a time and a place for it, but why let flashers or other criminals get away with this kind of thing? Besides, if this is new, this may not be the first incident like this in the last twelve months in Philly. Then, there was the little (7? 9 years old?) girl who was kidnapped. She bit through the duct tape holding her to the chair, broke out of the basement and got the police to arrest her kidnapper.

Philadelphians are not door mats.

Koodauw
Apr 16, 2004, 12:46 PM
"There was a consistent pattern; he showed up when the girls were arriving at school in the morning. He targeted them." DeSantis said. "These are the kinds of crimes that escalate to touching, and then to rape."


If it was a consistant pattern, would it be hard to call the police and have them there as the children were arriving?

Question: Do they have the right (legally) to subdue him untill the police arrive? anyone know of court cases on this?

Mantat
Apr 16, 2004, 12:48 PM
I think I should explain my opinion a bit more...

First of all, the flasher did a crime and it right to assume that repeat offence like he did could lead to worst crime and for that fact alone he should be punished / treated.

About what the schoolgirl did? They did something very dangerous. Taking justice in your own hand, no matter how well intended you are, is a crime and second, can cause you serious problem. There was a guy here in montreal recently who wanted to stop a fight between two guys and he got shot... Heroism should be left to the cops. You never know what might by the reaction of a perverted mind like that!

As I said, documenting the suspect (photo, video, etc) could have been done. I guess there are a lot of camera in the area and the suspect is probably on film.

My problem is not as much with what the girls did, I think they got good result, its more that people in this forum congratulate them. This is a clear endorsement of violence and the vigilante spirit which will latter cause much more troubles.

Violence leads to violence.

agreenster
Apr 16, 2004, 12:48 PM
Funny, this very same scenario was in an episode of "ER," and maybe Law&Order too.....must be a common thing.

And yeah, it was probably "wrong" for the girls to kick this guy, but I sure as hell wouldnt charge them for it. Yes, vigilante actions are wrong, but it seems like criminals are getting more and more disgusting while punishments are getting more and more lenient.

MongoTheGeek
Apr 16, 2004, 12:55 PM
If it was a consistant pattern, would it be hard to call the police and have them there as the children were arriving?

Question: Do they have the right (legally) to subdue him untill the police arrive? anyone know of court cases on this?

I think it varies greatly by jurisdiction. Also civilians have far less authority to use force in such instances and face far greater possible penalties in the event of an 'oops'.

The girls did a good thing I think. It was dangerous but with the numbers involved no overly so. As for violence for non violent offenses. The flashing comes really close to the line. There are some implicit threats in with whipping out Mr Winky and showing him to young ladies. (Rather different IHMO than walking down the street stark naked.)

yamabushi
Apr 16, 2004, 12:57 PM
A friend once had an interesting encounter with a flasher while she was working as a cashier. The guy apparently placed his penis on the counter along with some items he intended to purchase and then made some kind of comment. My friend was so shocked and surprised that she panicked and instinctively whacked his penis with the nearest item at hand. Unfortunately for the flasher the item happened to be a can of soup that he had placed on the counter next to his penis. It took a while to get him in the ambulance because everyone including the police and paramedics were laughing so hard. Apparently the can actually left dent in the counter. I wonder how many people would have responded in a similar way if they were put in the same situation.

Apple Hobo
Apr 16, 2004, 12:58 PM
No sympathy here. I think he should've be castrated right on the spot. Ohhhh...I'm such a barbarian. Gimme a break...http://bellsouthpwp.net/g/s/gserv2/gifs/jerkoff.gif

I guess It's ok for some disgusting perv to wave his hairy wanker at someone--as long as it's not your daughter(s).

MongoTheGeek
Apr 16, 2004, 01:00 PM
Funny, this very same scenario was in an episode of "ER," and maybe Law&Order too.....must be a common thing.

And yeah, it was probably "wrong" for the girls to kick this guy, but I sure as hell wouldnt charge them for it. Yes, vigilante actions are wrong, but it seems like criminals are getting more and more disgusting while punishments are getting more and more lenient.

It is somewhat common. What's left of my brain seems to track about an incident a year.

As for the girls vigilance^H^Hantism I don't know. Heinlein said an armed society is a polite society. Jefferson said eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. America is a county of the citizen soldier. There is no overarching nobility and all people are equal. The authority of the police derives from the people.

srobert
Apr 16, 2004, 01:11 PM
A friend once had an interesting encounter with a flasher while she was working as a cashier. The guy apparently placed his penis on the counter along with some items he intended to purchase and then made some kind of comment. My friend was so shocked and surprised that she panicked and instinctively whacked his penis with the nearest item at hand. Unfortunately for the flasher the item happened to be a can of soup that he had placed on the counter next to his penis. It took a while to get him in the ambulance because everyone including the police and paramedics were laughing so hard. Apparently the can actually left dent in the counter. I wonder how many people would have responded in a similar way if they were put in the same situation.

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Mantat
Apr 16, 2004, 01:55 PM
About crime rate:

I am tired of people who keep saying that the society is getting worst as time pass. Its totaly false. The rate of crimes in % and nominal number is declining years after years. Well, according to some stats that I dont want to find again.

But its possible that its increasing in some area and declining in others, that I dont know. But I know that study was for north america...

And if I had a kid and a pervert flashed his dick in front of her, I dont think I would want him to be hurt. The first thing would be to explain to my kid what happened and why. And I did some research on google to link flashing with other sexual crimes and there is no correlation. That means that flasher dont eventualy become raper (rapist?!?). Explanation: Flasher are arroused by the idea of others seeing them. Raper (ist?) are arroused by the notion of power they have over someone else.

srobert
Apr 16, 2004, 02:03 PM
The day is mine Trebek! I'll take tha rapists for 500 :D

No seriously, I think Mentat has a point. I don't think that flashers (or nu-vites as we call them in french Montreal ^_^) are dangerous peeps. They should just pick their target more wisely. Maybe this guy was afraid that if he'd pull is act in front of adults, he'd end up with a punch in the face. It's sad ... but funny in a way.

coolsoldier
Apr 16, 2004, 02:25 PM
This makes for a great story, but what the girls did was stupid for too many reasons to list. First, it's likely to make the man angry (most people don't like being attacked). Second, it would have given him an excuse if he had decided to become violent. Third, it's quite possibly illegal (In most jurisdictions they couldn't claim self-defense because he never actually threatened them). Fourth, a struggle puts them in an obvious physical danger. The key factor here is that they put themselves in physical danger when there otherwise wasn't any (No, flashing is not physically dangerous).

Obviously, this man needed to be taken care of, but this was just a dumb way to go about it. In this case, it's great that it worked out okay, but it could just as easily ended up the other way around, with the man beating the girls (in self-defense). Then all of the people who are applauding the girls' actions now would be harping on how dangerous the world is when adults can get away with attacking girls in the schoolyard on "technicalities" :p

Awimoway
Apr 16, 2004, 02:30 PM
About crime rate:

I am tired of people who keep saying that the society is getting worst as time pass. Its totaly false. The rate of crimes in % and nominal number is declining years after years. Well, according to some stats that I dont want to find again.

But its possible that its increasing in some area and declining in others, that I dont know. But I know that study was for north america...

And if I had a kid and a pervert flashed his dick in front of her, I dont think I would want him to be hurt. The first thing would be to explain to my kid what happened and why. And I did some research on google to link flashing with other sexual crimes and there is no correlation. That means that flasher dont eventualy become raper (rapist?!?). Explanation: Flasher are arroused by the idea of others seeing them. Raper (ist?) are arroused by the notion of power they have over someone else.

I agree that crime rates are down. We are so accustomed to always thinking things were better "in the good ol' days" that we fail to recognize whenever this is not the case. Crime rates have been going down for about 10 years.

As a parent of young daughters, if someone flashed them I would be furious. But that doesn't mean violence is the appropriate response. Apprehending the perv and getting them prosecuted and helped/punished is the answer.

But I've really got to disagree with the point that flashing won't lead to worse crimes. Besides, that isn't really the point. The point is that most people who are being flashed are not criminologists and they don't know what a certain crime will or won't lead to. They're just afraid. I recognize that most vigilantism and glorification of violence is also borne of fear, and I'm joining with you in not condoning it. But I think we have to recognize that any person who is in the moment of being victimized—especially female victims of any sex crime by a male perpetrator—are prone to be very afraid and will act more out of instinct than careful, rational deliberation. I suspect that fear had more to do with why he got kicked in the teeth than mere mean-spiritedness. On the other hand, that doesn't excuse all the attention the story has gotten and the glorification of the beating.

bousozoku
Apr 16, 2004, 02:33 PM
About crime rate:

I am tired of people who keep saying that the society is getting worst as time pass. Its totaly false. The rate of crimes in % and nominal number is declining years after years. Well, according to some stats that I dont want to find again.

But its possible that its increasing in some area and declining in others, that I dont know. But I know that study was for north america...

And if I had a kid and a pervert flashed his dick in front of her, I dont think I would want him to be hurt. The first thing would be to explain to my kid what happened and why. And I did some research on google to link flashing with other sexual crimes and there is no correlation. That means that flasher dont eventualy become raper (rapist?!?). Explanation: Flasher are arroused by the idea of others seeing them. Raper (ist?) are arroused by the notion of power they have over someone else.

I wonder if you would feel the same way if you lived in another city in Canada, say Windsor, ON. I want to be generous toward people but there are times when action is the only thing that works. Philadelphia has a lot of crime and it's a very busy city. I remember some good kid getting beat to death in Philly because people waited for the police and the 911 dispatchers didn't do their job properly. He'd been long dead by the time the police arrived.

wdlove
Apr 16, 2004, 02:52 PM
They had every right to hold him for police. I think that eleven individuals should have been able to restrain him without violence.

I don't think that he will ever do that again.

Mantat
Apr 16, 2004, 03:04 PM
I don't think that he will ever do that again.
Unless he is a masochist flasher :eek:

musicpyrite
Apr 16, 2004, 03:04 PM
For once, he was on the receiving end of the stick.

Nice :cool:

ExoticFish
Apr 16, 2004, 03:10 PM
i dunno, i still think that sometimes people just need a good @$$ kicking! :D

MrMacMan
Apr 16, 2004, 05:32 PM
Funny, this very same scenario was in an episode of "ER," and maybe Law&Order too.....must be a common thing.

And yeah, it was probably "wrong" for the girls to kick this guy, but I sure as hell wouldnt charge them for it. Yes, vigilante actions are wrong, but it seems like criminals are getting more and more disgusting while punishments are getting more and more lenient.


haha I saw that episode about that too!

Skeeball236
Apr 16, 2004, 10:21 PM
del

bousozoku
Apr 16, 2004, 11:26 PM
What a funny story, men/guys who flash deserve a beating....

That said, there's truly a not enough female flashers these days. Women need to rally together and form a club for this type of activity, and are welcome in front of my house anytime. :D

Just PM me ahead of time so I can set up the cameras and check the lighting, etc..... ;)

Get a job delivering pizza. You'll be treated, even if you aren't tipped. ;) :D

crazzyeddie
Apr 17, 2004, 01:19 AM
Question: Do they have the right (legally) to subdue him untill the police arrive? anyone know of court cases on this?

Citizen's arrest used to be fairly common, before police were in most cities (and you had to wait for the sheriff), so i would guess this would still be legal by some old rule in the books.

cb911
Apr 17, 2004, 05:10 AM
yep, citizens arrest. but i didn't know that included a free beating? :p

but from reading that article i think that guy didnt' nearly get what he deserved. sounds like he needs counseling or something, or put him in jail for alot longer where he can see what it's like to be on the receiving end of a flash, and alot more...

A friend once had an interesting encounter with a flasher while she was working as a cashier. The guy apparently placed his penis on the counter along with some items he intended to purchase and then made some kind of comment. My friend was so shocked and surprised that she panicked and instinctively whacked his penis with the nearest item at hand. Unfortunately for the flasher the item happened to be a can of soup that he had placed on the counter next to his penis. It took a while to get him in the ambulance because everyone including the police and paramedics were laughing so hard. Apparently the can actually left dent in the counter. I wonder how many people would have responded in a similar way if they were put in the same situation.

hehe. :D that's a funny story. i guess most people would react the same way. i know i'd freak out and want it off my counter. :D great story.

kettle
Apr 17, 2004, 06:09 AM
I agree that crime rates are down. We are so accustomed to always thinking things were better "in the good ol' days" that we fail to recognize whenever this is not the case. Crime rates have been going down for about 10 years.

I think "in the good ol' days" people could be bothered to report crime.
Those statistics only really mean something when you balance them against an immovable marker. I want to know how we could measure unreported crime.

Seems like 10% less crime means government can spend 10% less on law enforcement and use the savings for their index linked pensions.

munchmime
Apr 17, 2004, 12:23 PM
Sorry but I have to say that the beavior of the crowd was problematic. Even tho the flasher did something terribly wrong, it doesnt deserve the treatement he got. Violence seems to be the overly used these days...


Violence seems to be overly used these days? These days? so what your saying is that 100, 200, 500, 1000 years ago or more, we were less violent?
Perhaps you could better survive in those days... Though 90% of us probably couldn't because they were a more brutal time. Try living in some country where they still practice such brutal forms of punishment.

.... these days... Ha! yes, we still live on planet earth, and humans last time I checked are still animals.

Awimoway
Apr 17, 2004, 02:35 PM
Violence seems to be overly used these days? These days? so what your saying is that 100, 200, 500, 1000 years ago or more, we were less violent?
Perhaps you could better survive in those days... Though 90% of us probably couldn't because they were a more brutal time. Try living in some country where they still practice such brutal forms of punishment.

.... these days... Ha! yes, we still live on planet earth, and humans last time I checked are still animals.

You know, I agreed with Mantat on this, but I've been thinking about it since then, and I realize we were wrong. It's rather hypocritical of the anti-vigilantism bunch on this thread (and I include myself among them) to claim, as I did, that violence is up but crime is down. I don't even think the love of violence is up compared to, say, 50 years ago. Think of how things have improved, violence-wise, in the American South or South Africa (of course, now South Africa has new kinds of violence problems, but you get my point).

But what I would like to argue—and what I think was the original motivation for my argument—is that the glorification of violence ought to be less common than it is. We are a maturing society, at least the modern, “Western World” is. We have made great strides in overcoming traditional cultural immaturities like racism and sexism. We haven't fully overcome these things, but we've made progress. So why not violence? Why do we still love war and hurting people? Why do we itch for an excuse to pound somebody to a bloody pulp? Why do we cheer on vigilantism? We're really not so far removed from ancient villagers carrying torches and pitchforks, and it's a bloody shame.

Koodauw
Apr 17, 2004, 06:32 PM
They had every right to hold him for police. I think that eleven individuals should have been able to restrain him without violence.


And what right was this? Not to sound mocking, but I would honestly like to know.


Citizen's arrest used to be fairly common, before police were in most cities (and you had to wait for the sheriff), so i would guess this would still be legal by some old rule in the books.

So basically your just guessing. Or do you have some evidence.

I would like to read some info on this, so if anyone has some, please let me know.

coolsoldier
Apr 17, 2004, 07:20 PM
I would like to read some info on this, so if anyone has some, please let me know.

Google search for "Citizen's Arrest" reveals:

http://www.constitution.org/grossack/arrest.htm
http://www.kevinboone.com/citizens_arrest.html

The summary of the second article is helpful, if you don't feel like reading through it all:

A private citizen can lawfully arrest someone whom he or she has evidence to suspect is committing, or has committed, an arrestable offence. Caution is required when arresting someone who is believed to have committed an offence earlier, because if it turns out that the arrestee's actions did not amount to an offence, the arrest will have be unlawful. A private citizen can be authorised by a court to carry out an arrest under the authority of a search warrant. Finally, anybody can lawfully arrest a person who is unlawfully at large. A person carrying out a lawful arrest can use reasonable force. If the arrest turns out to be unlawful, then any force used will amount to a criminal offence and may also give rise to a claim for damages.

Edit: Yes, that's English law, not American law, but the concept is the same, and the first article goes through the American laws state by state if you want more detail.

Giaguara
Apr 17, 2004, 11:06 PM
What a funny story, men/guys who flash deserve a beating....

That said, there's truly a not enough female flashers these days. Women need to rally together and form a club for this type of activity, and are welcome in front of my house anytime. :D

Just PM me ahead of time so I can set up the cameras and check the lighting, etc..... ;)

haha. i do like flashing .. at least at home or in my bedroom .. well, at least when i feel sexy and comfy enough with my body... i just take off all clothes and walk around with my apple tattoo ... it works every time .. well of course i always flash to the same guy but still ... :rolleyes:

not in unknown places. umh .. makes me remember the weirdest and most extrovert thing ever i've done was dancing on a cube in an apple staff party wearing a minimalistic jaguar top (and jeans) .. i normally could never think about dancing on a cube nor wearing a jaguar top (a shirt yes) .. but that doesn't count as flashing ... [does anyone have any pics of that party?? there were a lot of ppl with the cameras, i still havent seen any pics..]

skunk
Apr 18, 2004, 09:23 AM
I've always thought that the best response to a flasher is to burst out laughing.

bousozoku
Apr 18, 2004, 07:14 PM
I've always thought that the best response to a flasher is to burst out laughing.

That man was apparently thick, so he needed a bit more encouragement to stop.

There was a cleaning woman working in the hospital annex building where I worked and said that some man was standing in the parking lot below the windows where she was working and he exposed himself to her. I said to her "If he returns, ask him if it comes in adult size and see if he returns." ;)

MrMacMan
Apr 18, 2004, 09:39 PM
Get a job delivering pizza. You'll be treated, even if you aren't tipped. ;) :D

That must be pretty fun. :p

Lyle
Apr 19, 2004, 11:32 AM
But what I would like to argue—and what I think was the original motivation for my argument—is that the glorification of violence ought to be less common than it is. We are a maturing society, at least the modern, “Western World” is. We have made great strides in overcoming traditional cultural immaturities like racism and sexism.I wonder if we have really made great strides in overcoming racism and sexism or if we've just learned to be polite and keep more quiet about our prejudices. For example, if you were to directly ask any American today if they believe they're racist, I don't imagine that anyone would answer in the affirmative. But their actions might belie the claim (e.g. do they worry about property values going down if the "wrong kind of people" move into the neighborhood?)

We haven't fully overcome these things, but we've made progress. So why not violence? Why do we still love war and hurting people? Why do we itch for an excuse to pound somebody to a bloody pulp? Why do we cheer on vigilantism? We're really not so far removed from ancient villagers carrying torches and pitchforks, and it's a bloody shame.I'm not sure I agree that we "love" war and hurting people, but your point is well taken. Now, as for cheering on vigilantism, I believe that's a little more understandable. Not necessarily justifiable, but understandable ;) There's an increasing belief that the "bad guys" are getting away with more and more these days and that we can't count on the justice system to do the right thing anymore. So when people cheer on vigilantes, it is (in my opinion) more of a reaction to this frustration than an endorsement of the violence that happens to be a part of the vigilante's actions.

Chip NoVaMac
Apr 19, 2004, 02:16 PM
Sorry but I have to say that the beavior of the crowd was problematic. Even tho the flasher did something terribly wrong, it doesnt deserve the treatement he got. Violence seems to be the overly used these days...

He resisted. He was convicted. IMHO no future lawsuit.

Chip NoVaMac
Apr 19, 2004, 02:19 PM
haha. i do like flashing .. at least at home or in my bedroom .. well, at least when i feel sexy and comfy enough with my body... i just take off all clothes and walk around with my apple tattoo ... it works every time .. well of course i always flash to the same guy but still ... :rolleyes:

not in unknown places. umh .. makes me remember the weirdest and most extrovert thing ever i've done was dancing on a cube in an apple staff party wearing a minimalistic jaguar top (and jeans) .. i normally could never think about dancing on a cube nor wearing a jaguar top (a shirt yes) .. but that doesn't count as flashing ... [does anyone have any pics of that party?? there were a lot of ppl with the cameras, i still havent seen any pics..]

Does having one too many drinks, and stripping in front of a bar window count?

Koodauw
Apr 19, 2004, 05:17 PM
Google search for "Citizen's Arrest" reveals:

http://www.constitution.org/grossack/arrest.htm
http://www.kevinboone.com/citizens_arrest.html



Thank you coolsldier, Just what I was looking for.

Always good to know: (from the 1st link) Kentucky citizens are permitted to kill fleeing felons while making a citizen's arrest (Kentucky Criminal Code § 37; S 43, §44.)

Remind me not to commit a felony in KY!

coolsoldier
Apr 19, 2004, 05:21 PM
Remind me not to commit a felony in KY!

Best not to commit a felony anywhere ;)

But if you must, here in New Mexico is probably a good place. This state is legendarily easy on criminals. (Other than illegal immigrants, who have at times been reportedly shot for sport by locals living near the border)

oldschool
Apr 19, 2004, 05:36 PM
one time i was at mardi gras, and this girl flashed me.

bousozoku
Apr 19, 2004, 07:51 PM
one time i was at mardi gras, and this girl flashed me.

Which girl? You forgot the photo. :D

bousozoku
Apr 20, 2004, 08:30 AM
You'll all be pleased that the Philadelphia Daily news ran the following story title:

Adding flashers would help save kids

and the sub title

But city plans to cut funding for new signals

:D