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eyelikeart
Apr 16, 2004, 02:08 PM
I'm honestly surprised this hasn't happened yet. The sad part is that other companies don't feel moved by it at all. :rolleyes:

story here (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20040416/ts_latimes/2hivcasesputascareintoporn)

MongoTheGeek
Apr 16, 2004, 02:32 PM
I'm honestly surprised this hasn't happened yet. The sad part is that other companies don't feel moved by it at all. :rolleyes:

story here (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20040416/ts_latimes/2hivcasesputascareintoporn)

It has happened before. I read an article about this and the last outbreak was in 1999. There is a reason they test at least once a month.

Its kinda odd. How many people could get SSI for an STD?

wdlove
Apr 16, 2004, 02:58 PM
I'm also not surprised by STD's and HIV occurring in the porn industry. On a recent story about the porn industry, they indicated that viewers don't want to see any protection used. It's just another example of how careful everyone has to be today. You really need to know the medical history of a person that you are dating. Just kissing can pass on STD's like Herpes. :(

baby duck monge
Apr 16, 2004, 03:59 PM
very sad news, indeed. you never want to see anyone get this kind of news.
at least it is obvious that the majority of the industry is generally careful what with all the mandatory testing etc. i just find it surprising that people who use sex as a way to make a living aren't more careful outside of work. with the intense screening they have to go through regularly, there would have to be a knowledge of danger. having relations with untested partners outside of that community seems like it would be a big no-no.
anyway, i hope this incident is limited to those already known to be infected. the porn industry is always going to be with us (to some people's delight, and to others' chagrin), and we all need to hope that it remains as safe as it can be.

Mr. Anderson
Apr 16, 2004, 04:12 PM
Makes you wonder why anyone would want to be in these movies......no amount of money (and I can't imagine they're making all that much) would be worth the risk of getting AIDS and then dying.... :(

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jxyama
Apr 16, 2004, 04:27 PM
You really need to know the medical history of a person that you are dating. Just kissing can pass on STD's like Herpes. :(

slightly off topic but what i find lacking today is more education about dealing with (not just preventing) STDs.

there are many non-deadly STDs out there and many people get them - one very common example being HPV, which causes warts. i feel there's tremendous amount of information on how to prevent getting STDs, but there's not as much info on how to deal with it realistically if you are infected. ("you got virus, there's no cure and it will stay with you for the rest of life." isn't very instructional or useful at all. many people know how not to get it, but if you happen to have it already, you feel like you are out of luck.)

i think the lack of real life education on how to live with STDs is adding to many people shying away from getting tested, because they feel their sex life would be completely doomed if they find out. (this shouldn't apply to "deadly" STDs like HIV because people know ignoring it will just kill you.)

Thomas Veil
Apr 16, 2004, 04:49 PM
...viewers don't want to see any protection used.
Excuse me, but that is Grade-A Stupid.

jxyama
Apr 16, 2004, 04:53 PM
Excuse me, but that is Grade-A Stupid.

it is. but it's understandable. these people pay money for these movies - to them, what happens in the movie is not reality.

it's the same reason action movies should feature realistic car crashes, war movies should feature gory combat scenes, etc., but unfortunately, stunts and special effects have far less negative real life consequences than "realistic" sex scenes.

PickledSquirrel
Apr 16, 2004, 05:05 PM
Makes you wonder why anyone would want to be in these movies......no amount of money (and I can't imagine they're making all that much) would be worth the risk of getting AIDS and then dying.... :(

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weeeeeeell, with the combined treatment they use now, you can live 20-30 years, some even longer, with HIV before dying from AIDS. A whole lotta people work more hours for less money than porn stars, and die sooner from various diseases related to their work...

So it probably depends on your point of view ;)

Dippo
Apr 16, 2004, 06:15 PM
Excuse me, but that is Grade-A Stupid.


Well sometimes the truth is stupid...

kingtj
Apr 16, 2004, 09:21 PM
Yep, although this really gets off the usual topic I expect to find and discuss over on these Mac forums - you make an excellent point.

The last I heard, the statistics on the number of Americans infected with HPV was about 50%. (Note that some people are simply "carriers" for HPV, and don't actually have visible warts, and some women who have them may not have them in a place that's visible.)

Despite this incredibly high infection rate, you don't really see much talk about it. Sure, you occasionally see the small ad in the newspaper telling you about some clinic that treats HPV - but since it's so "taboo" to admit having it, many people are just going around, living with it, and passing it on to others.

To be honest with you, I'm not even quite sure I understand just where the medical field is on the whole HPV thing? I've seen claims of "cures" for it, as well as the usual advice that "once you get it, it stays with you forever" - and I also wonder what the "going rate" is for treatment? I know people who work at clinics who say it's as cheap as $20 for a treatment, while other advertisements talk about prices in the hundreds of dollars. Are people who pay more getting more?


slightly off topic but what i find lacking today is more education about dealing with (not just preventing) STDs.

there are many non-deadly STDs out there and many people get them - one very common example being HPV, which causes warts. i feel there's tremendous amount of information on how to prevent getting STDs, but there's not as much info on how to deal with it realistically if you are infected. ("you got virus, there's no cure and it will stay with you for the rest of life." isn't very instructional or useful at all. many people know how not to get it, but if you happen to have it already, you feel like you are out of luck.)

i think the lack of real life education on how to live with STDs is adding to many people shying away from getting tested, because they feel their sex life would be completely doomed if they find out. (this shouldn't apply to "deadly" STDs like HIV because people know ignoring it will just kill you.)

wdlove
Apr 16, 2004, 09:46 PM
slightly off topic but what i find lacking today is more education about dealing with (not just preventing) STDs.

there are many non-deadly STDs out there and many people get them - one very common example being HPV, which causes warts. i feel there's tremendous amount of information on how to prevent getting STDs, but there's not as much info on how to deal with it realistically if you are infected. ("you got virus, there's no cure and it will stay with you for the rest of life." isn't very instructional or useful at all. many people know how not to get it, but if you happen to have it already, you feel like you are out of luck.)

i think the lack of real life education on how to live with STDs is adding to many people shying away from getting tested, because they feel their sex life would be completely doomed if they find out. (this shouldn't apply to "deadly" STDs like HIV because people know ignoring it will just kill you.)


I just more young people would get educated. Proper protection is a good start. Though I realize that the young think they are invincible. "It can never happen to me." Now those two porn actors realize that it is true.

Also HPV in females is connected with cervical cancer. There are other deadly STD's. If untreated Syphilis is deadly.

Knowing your partner is the first step in protection.

AppleMatt
Apr 16, 2004, 09:57 PM
You really need to know the medical history of a person that you are dating. Just kissing can pass on STD's like Herpes. :(

Sorry to pick on this but it isn't entirely accurate.
There are two types of the Herpes virus, HSV-1 and HSV-2. The first is the oral form and the second is the genital form. If the person you are kissing has an oral outbreak (eg a coldsore) then it's possible for them to pass the HSV-1 virus to you, making you prone to outbreaks, however it needs mouth-genital contact to pass it on to your Johnson and you to get genital herpes, and the rate of transmission is lower (i.e. even if they have an outbreak you're less likely to get it as the virus prefers the mouth). Saying that, about one third of reported genital warts are the HSV-1 variant. HSV-2 is obviously passed sexually.

As far as I'm aware, there aren't any concrete cases of HSV-1 being passed on by kissing when the person isn't experiencing an outbreak.

If you're "lucky" you'll get just the HSV-1 variant which typically doesn't produce that bad outbreaks. If you're a little "luckier" you'll get HSV-1 before you get HSV-2, which usually means the outbreak will be less severe. If the man upstairs doesn't like you you're gonna get just HSV-2 and be in for a hell of a time. Perhaps the worse thing is that herpes makes you more susceptible to HIV infection :(
Moral of the story: Check their lips and mouth before kissing them. In the best possible way of course ;)

As for knowing the history of your partner, that's something that comes up in my house (a house of 14 guys) a lot. We've kind-of decided it's nigh-on impossible, say you've been with one girl who's been with two guys. Both of those guys have only been with two girls and those two girls have been with 2 other guys, those guys have only been with...etc etc.

AppleMatt

MrMacMan
Apr 16, 2004, 11:39 PM
I'm also not surprised by STD's and HIV occurring in the porn industry. On a recent story about the porn industry, they indicated that viewers don't want to see any protection used. It's just another example of how careful everyone has to be today. You really need to know the medical history of a person that you are dating. Just kissing can pass on STD's like Herpes. :(
But not HIV. You can't pass that through kissing, and even if you have herpes you need a breakout for anything really.



Yeah anyway the porn buis knows the rises well.

They get tested like every 15 days (tho this says 30 days)...


So sorry, but really.