ATI Announces 4890 Availability - $250.00

[Wild-Bill]

Link (http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/04/02/ati.radeon.hd.4890.gpu/)

Snippet: The ATI Radeon HD 4890 graphics card is expected to be integrated PCs from OEMs such as ASUS, Club 3D, Diamond Multimedia, and MSI. The cards also available immediately for $250 (and priced at select etailers as low as $230 after mail-in rebate).

Funny how ATI's brand new card, the successor to the 4870, can be had for only $250.00. Meanwhile, Apple demands $350.00 for a card now made obsolete by its successor. :rolleyes:

I'm looking forward to seeing the "Race to Dump the 4890" thread that will no doubt materialize here. And I'm also looking forward to picking up one of these cards and making it work in my Mac Pro, while simultaneously giving the finger to Apple for expecting us to pay $350.00 for a card that retails for $179.00. :mad:

Feedback has been submitted to Apple via the Mac Pro feedback link on their site. I made it clear that the 4870 pricing is ridiculous and an insult to the informed consumer. :apple:

[Tallest Skil]

Hmm...

Do you think that it would be possible to run a 4870, 4890, and GT 120 at the same time?

Secondary PSU, of course, but would that work?:D

[nicolasmasset]

Yeah me too, but I doubt the ati card will have minidisplay!

[Tallest Skil]

Yeah me too, but I doubt the ati card will have minidisplay!

So? Flashed 4870s have both their DVI ports working perfectly, and generally people like not having to buy an adapter on top of the price of their new computer and graphics card just to get their displays to work.

[shinchan72]

So? Flashed 4870s have both their DVI ports working perfectly, and generally people like not having to buy an adapter on top of the price of their new computer and graphics card just to get their displays to work.

He was bringing up a valid point for people who do have the Apple 24" led displays. You must use an actual Apple 4870 or GT 120 to be able to use them.

[Tallest Skil]

He was bringing up a valid point for people who do have the Apple 24" led displays. You must use an actual Apple 4870 or GT 120 to be able to use them.

But then you need two GT 120 or one 4870 and one GT 120 to use them, anyway.

People flashing cards don't care about the new Cinema Displays, so it's irrelevant.

[Whiteyez]

I would like also to see a 4890 in my mac pro 09. The good thing is that its use only 268W in full load power, and 65W idle. And the Radeon HD 4890 requires only two six-pin PCI-Express power connections.:D

[Eithanius]

Feedback has been submitted to Apple via the Mac Pro feedback link on their site. I made it clear that the 4870 pricing is ridiculous and an insult to the informed consumer. :apple:

Do they ever really read on customer feedbacks from that link...? And did you feedback Apple with that finger of yours..? :D :D :p

Because if you don't, I do... for killing off the 1st-gen Mac Pro owners by denying them proper video graphics upgrade options, other than the crappy X1900 and the over-priced 8800GT. Even the AASP (Gold service) in my area had the guts to quote me $550+ for an 8800GT (as opposed to $279 at the online store) which was already long obsolete in the PC world. :mad::mad:

[grue]

The good thing is that its use only 268W in full load power, and 65W idle.

Jeez… I idle at about 150% of your max load.

[Igantius]

Tom's Hardware has a detailed review - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4890,2262.html - and the benchmarks include 1GB and 512MB versions of the 4870.

In the UK, the going rate is £250 (ouch) but a couple of reports from people who have it have suggested it's very noisy.

[G4DP]

Even the AASP (Gold service) in my area had the guts to quote me $550+ for an 8800GT (as opposed to $279 at the online store) which was already long obsolete in the PC world. :mad::mad:

THat is because if they order it, Apple demands that they fit it. I had the same problem ordering it from my local store. They said the policy is stupid and to order it myself from Apple.

[The Rominator]

If you have a look here:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/HD_4890/images/back_full.jpg

It is a Hi Res image of back of 4890..........looks ALOT like a 4870........in fact the major differences seem to be in the power reg area.

Well, we had a CURRENT GPU in Macs for...what was that, 3 weeks? If they had planned it a little better, they would have gone with a New Nehalem combined with New GPU.

[jmpage2]

If any of you guys had bothered to read the Toms Hardware review you'd realize that the 4890 is only marginally better than the 4870.

The main advantages come in with things like the better power management that reduces the idle power consumption of the card when using it in "desktop" mode.

[KoL]

I would love to see this card on my Mac Pro '08. :D

[The Rominator]

Netkas said the device id isn't in the kexts, as I recall.

Be nice if it showed up.

I also think that ATI device ids have become somewhat fluid, like Nvidia ones.

[Plutonius]

Tom's Hardware has a detailed review - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4890,2262.html - and the benchmarks include 1GB and 512MB versions of the 4870.

In the UK, the going rate is £250 (ouch) but a couple of reports from people who have it have suggested it's very noisy.

It's interesting that the 4870 512MB and the 4870 1GB had almost the same performance in the benchmarks.

[Wild-Bill]

If any of you guys had bothered to read the Toms Hardware review you'd realize that the 4890 is only marginally better than the 4870.


Despite the fact that this card is "marginally" better than the 4870, it's retail price is still 100.00 cheaper than what Apple wants for its mini-displayport infected 4870. :rolleyes:

[mingus51]

Would these work on the 2008 Octo's ?

[Tallest Skil]

Would these work on the 2008 Octo's ?

Not straight off, no.

[jmpage2]

Despite the fact that this card is "marginally" better than the 4870, it's retail price is still 100.00 cheaper than what Apple wants for its mini-displayport infected 4870. :rolleyes:

And when is the last time you saw a PCI card, etc, from Apple that didn't have the Apple Tax (tm) applied to it? If you don't like what Apple is offering then don't buy. The fastest way to force a vendor to change their lineup and reduce pricing is to refuse to buy their products.

[Salavat23]

Don't read Toms Hardware. They are a bunch of hicks who make half-assed reviews (most of the time).

If you want a real-world tested review from a very reliable source, read this:

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTYzNiwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

[dukebound85]

how does this card compare to the 8800gt? would i even notice a differece?

[Salavat23]

how does this card compare to the 8800gt? would i even notice a differece?

A difference in what? In games, it is up to 2-3x faster with the settings cranked up.

[grue]

A difference in what? In games, it is up to 2-3x faster with the settings cranked up.

Depends on the game.

[iBug2]

It's interesting that the 4870 512MB and the 4870 1GB had almost the same performance in the benchmarks.

Why is that interesting? If the game doesn't use more than 512 GB of memory (most games don't) then it's pretty much irrelevant if you have 1 GB memory. Ofc they'd perform the same.

[Wild-Bill]

And when is the last time you saw a PCI card, etc, from Apple that didn't have the Apple Tax (tm) applied to it? If you don't like what Apple is offering then don't buy. The fastest way to force a vendor to change their lineup and reduce pricing is to refuse to buy their products.

Umm.... that's the point of this thread, as well as "The Race to Dump the 4870 ROM" thread I quoted in my initial post.

I am NOT going to buy it. Perhaps you should read the thread a little more carefully before you post.

[Tesselator]

I'd read the thread but I'm too busy drooling over the 4890 with the slightly better performance and the much lower power draw... Oh and the non-suport from Apple. :mad:

[apfhex]

This is the company that still charges $300 for the 8800GT and $400 for the X1900 XT. :o And people still wonder why it's a bad idea to buy a Mac Pro for gaming...

[Eithanius]

This is the company that still charges $300 for the 8800GT and $400 for the X1900 XT. :o And people still wonder why it's a bad idea to buy a Mac Pro for gaming...

Who says the Mac Pro's for gaming....? :p

But nowadays after the launch of Nehalem, I tend to agree with your statement... This is how Apple responded to those many requests of a mini-gaming tower in between the iMac and the Mac Pro, and Apple came up with the new Quad Nehalem claiming it's cheaper, then jacking up the price of the base-level 8-core variant (to increase the gap in between it and the iMacs) enough to fool the hopeful game freaks into thinking Apple had granted them their wishes... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Whiteyez]

Had anyone tried to flash ATI 4890 ?

[chewietobbacca]

The 4890 is a lot faster than the 4870 than that Tom's review, which btw is a joke. Look at [H]ardocp or HardwareCanucks or Guru3d for examples of more professional reviews.

Plus, it's an overclocking beast... people are hitting 1GHz on stock cooling :eek:

[RebootD]

This is how Apple responded to those many requests of a mini-gaming tower in between the iMac and the Mac Pro, and Apple came up with the new Quad Nehalem claiming it's cheaper, then jacking up the price of the base-level 8-core variant (to increase the gap in between it and the iMacs) enough to fool the hopeful game freaks into thinking Apple had granted them their wishes... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

You mean people fell for that? :D

I understand why the DP are more because the cheapest MB is what $450-$500 alone? But from what I've read the board on the Quad is the bargin $200, $350 cpu, $50 graphics, $70 Hard Drive and $40 worth of Ram.. but that beautiful case, osx and magic sauce somehow push it up to being worth $2,499 :rolleyes:

I do state again, I will eventually cave and buy one.. does that make me a hypocrite? Yes. yes it does.

[Whiteyez]

Ok i bought a Sapphire 4890 how im gonna flash it?

http://www.plaisio.gr/ProductImages/600x600/1233645.JPG

[The Rominator]

Dude....not gonna be easy.

Dump the ROM on it and post it here.

And be ready for some frustration.

You may need to edit kexts to include the device id.

And BTW...no guarantee this will work.

Sometimes a minor chip warmover doesn't change things and it works with old ROMs and Drivers. (R300/R350/R360)

Sometimes, it becomes a DIFFERENT card and needs new EVERYTHING. (G70/G71)

In any case, these DO have a new device id, 9460, which I do not see in ATI kexts.

[Whiteyez]

Dude....not gonna be easy.

Dump the ROM on it and post it here.

And be ready for some frustration.

You may need to edit kexts to include the device id.

Any guide how to dumb the rom?

Why frustration?

If i flash it, can i return to the original if any problem?

[The Rominator]

Dump ROM:

EIther GPU-Z in Windows or...

ATIFLash in DOS

either way, make sure you get 128K. (20000 in Hex)

You can find instructions in the 4870 thread, or elsewhere.

May be frustrating because it may work, it may partially work, and it may reuqire waiting for newer OS with kext/driver support.

Not a one step deal.

[Whiteyez]

Ok, here is the Ati Sapphire 4890 Bios.

[The Rominator]

OK...I'll have a look at this...but again, with the Device id not being in the ATI kexts...don't see how to make it work.

May be possible to add it in....but no guarantees at all.

Do you know how to fix permissions of modified kexts?

They need to be wholly owned by System.

Plus, I'm not sure which ones need to have this in them.

You should start with looking through the "Info plist" inside the ATI.2000 kexts.....you need to add "9460" as a matched device id.

I will process the ROM for you and post it...but it ISN'T GOING TO WORK UNTIL YOU HAVE IT IN KEXTS and even then, it might not work anyway since it may have mildly different architecture.

[Whiteyez]

OK...I'll have a look at this...but again, with the Device id not being in the ATI kexts...don't see how to make it work.

May be possible to add it in....but no guarantees at all.

Do you know how to fix permissions of modified kexts?

They need to be wholly owned by System.

Plus, I'm not sure which ones need to have this in them.

You should start with looking through the "Info plist" inside the ATI.2000 kexts.....you need to add "9460" as a matched device id.

I will process the ROM for you and post it...but it ISN'T GOING TO WORK UNTIL YOU HAVE IT IN KEXTS and even then, it might not work anyway since it may have mildly different architecture.

Where can i find ATI.2000 kexts ? Can you guide me step by step ? I think the architecture of 4890 is the same with 4870.

[Firefly2002]

Funny how ATI's brand new card, the successor to the 4870, can be had for only $250.00. Meanwhile, Apple demands $350.00 for a card now made obsolete by its successor. :rolleyes:

What do you expect? ATI has to specially design drivers for Apple. Apple's marketshare is much smaller than the PC marketshare; they're designing drivers for a smaller market, that takes time and money for less of a return in terms of total sold. They have to raise the price.

And the 4870 isn't "obsolete," the 4890 is just an overclocked 4870, they're the same card. The 4870x2 is still a lot faster.

I'm looking forward to seeing the "Race to Dump the 4890" thread that will no doubt materialize here.

They're going to use the same ROM... just clocked higher. I doubt one will appear.

And I'm also looking forward to picking up one of these cards and making it work in my Mac Pro, while simultaneously giving the finger to Apple for expecting us to pay $350.00 for a card that retails for $179.00. :mad:

Again use your brain. R&D takes time and money. They have to charge more (ATI charges Apple more). Apple's ATi cards (and hey, nVidia, and even 3dfx when it was out) have ALWAYS been higher-priced than their PC counterparts. Always. This is nothing new.. it's been going on for 12 years. Just because you've jumped on the Apple bandwagon in the last couple years doesn't give you license to start evaluating established practices (that exist for a reason) and trying to incite a call to arms [so to speak].

Feedback has been submitted to Apple via the Mac Pro feedback link on their site. I made it clear that the 4870 pricing is ridiculous and an insult to the informed consumer. :apple:

Gee I guess you sure showed them.


I am NOT going to buy it. Perhaps you should read the thread a little more carefully before you post.

Rofl, maybe you should remember what you say a bit better.. you JUST said you were going to buy it in your first post.

It's interesting that the 4870 512MB and the 4870 1GB had almost the same performance in the benchmarks.

Erm... that's because 99% of all games don't need more than a 512 MB frame buffer? Why would 1 GB of memory help any when it's not needed?

Get a clue. You should really do some research before spending all that money on something you don't really even understand.

[Topper]

The 4890 is a lot faster than the 4870 than that Tom's review, which btw is a joke. Look at [H]ardocp or HardwareCanucks or Guru3d for examples of more professional reviews.

You are correct.
I looked at 8 benchtests with the 4890 and the 4870.
At the best, the 4890 beat the 4870 by 14.8 percent.
At the worst, the 4890 beat the 4870 by 10.7 percent.
The HD 4890 beat the HD 4870 by an average of 13.5 percent!

I also looked at 9 benchtests involving the HD 4870 1GB and the HD 4780 512MB.
The HD 4870 1GB beat the HD 4870 512MB by an average of 3.7 percent.

The benchtests were all OpenGL which should match up a little better with Macs than DirectX benchtests.

[xgman]

My understanding is that at least from a pc's point of view, the 4870 did not overclock very well and the 4890 overclocks easily. Probably moot point for macs, but very important to die hard gamers.

[Topper]

My understanding is that at least from a pc's point of view, the 4870 did not overclock very well and the 4890 overclocks easily. Probably moot point for macs, but very important to die hard gamers.

Yep, that sucker overclocks beautifully.
http://homepage.mac.com/ctopper/.Pictures/4890.jpg

[Alith]

Is it just me getting old or have other people stopped chasing these negligible increases of 10-15% ?

I would say I'm a 'die hard gamer' as I have been gaming since Pong. I'm just not a 'die hard PC hardware enthusiast' any more. Anything over 60fps is a moot issue since we stopped using CRTs. A 10% increase is a boost from 50fps to 55fps. Anyone who claims they can see this in a real world gaming test is just blinded by the placebo effect of justifying scrabbling around on all fours and fannying around all day with water cooling. I used to do all that but unless you are really enjoying it, it's just a waste of time that could be better spent doing more interesting things... like playing the games instead of benchmarking them.

Now going from an 8800GT to an HD 4870 and getting a 50% increase is something worth caring about. I'm really not that bothered that Apple aren't immediately supporting the latest and greatest excuse to relieve 'die hard PC hardware enthusiasts' of their cash. They are quite sensibly supporting the price/performance sweetspot of each new generation of GPU.

[thagomizer]

Just want to comment on a couple points.

Anything over 60fps is a moot issue since we stopped using CRTs.

It's not a moot issue to want to increase your average fps past 60 or 100fps. Most games slow down quite a lot during intense scenes, so if you're averaging 60fps in a game, you likely have spots where it'd down into the 10s and 20s. So trying to increase your average fps to 100 or 150 is not a bad idea, if it means that your lowest fps won't dip below 50. On Crysis, for example, at 1920 x 1200:

Play Time: 44.81s, Average FPS: 44.63
Min FPS: 19.86 at frame 149, Max FPS: 51.97 at frame 1784


Yes 44 fps looks fine. But it's rather annoying when it drops down to 19fps. This is with an overclocked 8800GT. A 4870 would do better, but still struggle to get past 30fps on the difficult scenes.

They are quite sensibly supporting the price/performance sweetspot of each new generation of GPU.

They are going for the best bang for the buck, which is good. But realize also that Apple is always playing up their ability to support large displays. Even the laptops come with dual-link ports to support a 30" monitor. At these high resolutions (2560 x 1600), even an ATI 4870 is going to struggle with the latest games. It would be nice to have some high-end GPU options from a company that seems to otherwise optimize their machines for large display sizes.

[Wild-Bill]

What do you expect?
..blah blah blah blah *(SNIP)

Shut up and stay out of my thread. I'm glad you took the time to quote everything I posted one by one and reply to each line with misguided garbage.

You're the one who needs to get a clue. Go play with your G3 or something and leave the Mac Pro owners alone.

[Alith]

Most games slow down quite a lot during intense scenes, so if you're averaging 60fps in a game.

Absolutely, good point. I'll generally drop my resolution into my boots so that games run at 60fps or as close to it as possible, in intense scenes.

[MattZani]

the 4890 is just an overclocked 4870, they're the same card.

Its Funny because you are SO wrong. The 4890 is a completely different Card, Redesigned Main Chip. Removes the problem ATI were having with the Freq's (The 4870 hit the max) But the 4890 Chip can go much past the limits of a 4870.

The 2 Cards are barely alike at all, good luck to the person trying to get a Mac Pro to see it, the Driver is completely different.

Not sure whether to get this, or a GTX275 for my Gaming Rig, think im gonna go Green Team....

[Topper]

Not sure whether to get this, or a GTX275 for my Gaming Rig

Tough call. It will depend upon what games you play and at what resolution.

Just as a generalization, I think the GTX 275 will beat the HD 4890.
But an OC'd HD 4890 will beat the GTX 275.
As a matter of fact, the OC'd HD 4890 comes close to the GTX 285 for power.
But like I said, it all depends on the game.

The bad news about the OC'd HD 4890? People complain about it's noise.

[Whiteyez]

Here it is what im getting in mac osx with my 4890, not flashed. i can't boot into windows with ATI 4890 the system recognize the Nvidia as primary card, any ideas?

[alam]

Here it is what im getting in mac osx with my 4890, not flashed. i can't boot into windows with ATI 4890 the system recognize the Nvidia as primary card, any ideas?

so you can boot with the 4890 through mac osx but the card is not recognized? then when are you going to flash the card?
and will the 4890 work on my mac pro '08 model, even if on windows??

[Whiteyez]

so you can boot with the 4890 through mac osx but the card is not recognized? then when are you going to flash the card?

Im booting in OSX with both cards ( ati and nvidia ) and the ati not recognized.

[alam]

Im booting in OSX with both cards ( ati and nvidia ) and the ati not recognized.

i wan't to get the ati 4890 for my mac pro '08
will it work with me too if there's is a possible way to flash this card?
even if i'm using it 4 windows bootcamp for a while?

and by the way, when r u going the flash your card?

and which one do you recommend me to get the 4890, from which one of these sites?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150359
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=210912957
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4545359&sku=P450-4890

[Whiteyez]

It works fine under windows. I played Crysis all high settings lots of hours with no problems. Im waiting for 6-pin cables and im going to try flashing the card, right now im using a PSU from another computer :p

[alam]

It works fine under windows. I played Crysis all high settings lots of hours with no problems. Im waiting for 6-pin cables and im going to try flashing the card, right now im using a PSU from another computer :p

great, will this happen to me too, because i want to join the party too, but before i do, will the 4890 work on my mac pro 08, because yours is '09?
i don't want to waste money and buy the card and then i find out that the card is not compatible with my mac pro 08 :confused:
because apple is always full of surprises :o

[Whiteyez]

great, will this happen to me too, because i want to join the party too, but before i do, will the 4890 work on my mac pro 08, because yours is '09?
i don't want to waste money and buy the card and then i find out that the card is not compatible with my mac pro 08 :confused:
because apple is always full of surprises :o

The card will work under 08 MP as the 4870. :)

[alam]

The card will work under 08 MP as the 4870. :)

the 4890 will work on osx as 4870 without flashing or with flashing?
sorry 4 the questions , but because i live in saudi arabia and it's very difficult to find this card and it's parts in here :o
so what do i need for this card:-
two 6 pins cable from where?
anything else i need to worry about?
i heard that the new 4890 is making noise, is it true?, and noisy is it?

[Whiteyez]

the 4890 will work on osx as 4870 without flashing or with flashing?
sorry 4 the questions , but because i live in saudi arabia and it's very difficult to find this card and it's parts in here :o
so what do i need for this card:-
two 6 pins cable from where?
anything else i need to worry about?
i heard that the new 4890 is making noise, is it true?

The 4890 is not going to work in osx without flashing it.
You need 2x6pin cables, i bought it from ebay. Nothing more.
The sound is ok, i dont know why everyone said that its make a lot noise. I had many VGA cards in my pc, ( im hardcore gamer) but this one is the one with low noise.

[alam]

The 4890 is not going to work in osx without flashing it.
You need 2x6pin cables, i bought it from ebay. Nothing more.
The sound is ok, i dont know why everyone said that its make a lot noise. I had many VGA cards in my pc, ( im hardcore gamer) but this one is the one with low noise.

well then im going for it, thank you 4 helping :D
so what do you recommend me to buy the card from? is this web site ok?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150359
and the 2x6 pin cables from this web site right? :-
http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=3280778
and one last big question:-
how can i flash this 4890? :D
i've never triad it before, this is the first time i've ever heard about flashing a card in my life!
is it simple or difficult?
and will there be any problems with the card if i upgrade my osx to 10.5.7 or 10.6 or maybe in the future 10.10? :)

[Whiteyez]

well then im going for it, thank you 4 helping :D
so what do you recommend me to buy the card from? is this web site ok?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150359
and the 2x6 pin cables from this web site right? :-
http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=3280778
and one last big question:-
how can i flash this 4890? :D
i've never triad it before, this is the first time i've ever heard about flashing a card in my life!
is it simple or difficult?
and will there be any problems with the card if i upgrade my osx to 10.5.7 or 10.6 or maybe in the future 10.10? :)

Why XFX ?

Yes that 2x6 pin cables.

Search in 4870 thread here to see how to flash. I dont think you will have any problems in the future, the 10.5.7 will make easer the flashing procedure.

[alam]

Why XFX ?

Yes that 2x6 pin cables.

Search in 4870 thread here to see how to flash. I dont think you will have any problems in the future, the 10.5.7 will make easer the flashing procedure.

i found many cards:
found this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127427
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121311

[Whiteyez]

I have this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102830

[bmb012]

Why XFX ?

Yes that 2x6 pin cables.

Search in 4870 thread here to see how to flash. I dont think you will have any problems in the future, the 10.5.7 will make easer the flashing procedure.

What does the card come with? I have a X1900, will I be able to use a cable from that?

Sorry for the noob questions, thanks in advance!

[Whiteyez]

What does the card come with? I have a X1900, will I be able to use a cable from that?

Sorry for the noob questions, thanks in advance!

If has these cables

http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=3280778

Then yes...

[The Rominator]

THIS IS ALL AT YOUR OWN RISK

I MAKE NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS WILL NOT BRICK YOUR CARD

Got that out of the way. I have taken the EFI portion of ROM and changed device id to match card & PC BIOS. I then used pipolomo42's method to construct a Mac 4890 ROM.

It might make the card show up in OSX...but for sure no QE or CI until you add the device id to the ATI kexts. It is also possible that Apple will add these to a future driver update.

I don't expect this is gonna be a final solution, but rather a step in the path.

Good luck.

[Whiteyez]

THIS IS ALL AT YOUR OWN RISK

I MAKE NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS WILL NOT BRICK YOUR CARD

Got that out of the way. I have taken the EFI portion of ROM and changed device id to match card & PC BIOS. I then used pipolomo42's method to construct a Mac 4890 ROM.

It might make the card show up in OSX...but for sure no QE or CI until you add the device id to the ATI kexts. It is also possible that Apple will add these to a future driver update.

I don't expect this is gonna be a final solution, but rather a step in the path.

Good luck.

I have added the device id to the ATI kexts. Im gonna try now and flash the card. If something goes wrong can i flash back in the original rom from my MP? Or i need a PC ?

Thanks anyway.

[The Rominator]

It should still function as a PC card....but as I said, I don't know for sure.

That is what happens when you are a trailblazer...you go into new land.

Eager for your report.

[alam]

I have this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102830

well if you have this card, then i'm gonna have the same one :)
i don't wan't to get in trouble you know :rolleyes:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102830
THIS IS ALL AT YOUR OWN RISK

I MAKE NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS WILL NOT BRICK YOUR CARD

Got that out of the way. I have taken the EFI portion of ROM and changed device id to match card & PC BIOS. I then used pipolomo42's method to construct a Mac 4890 ROM.

It might make the card show up in OSX...but for sure no QE or CI until you add the device id to the ATI kexts. It is also possible that Apple will add these to a future driver update.

I don't expect this is gonna be a final solution, but rather a step in the path.

Good luck.

is there a difference between this one and the 1st one in the 1st page?
does it make it the card fully functional now? or it will still be 4870 on osx? :rolleyes:

[The Rominator]

I have absolutely no idea.

My guess is that whiteyz is having some issue or we would have had a gleeful report from him.

And don't buy anything until we know how it works.

Maybe you don't understand what is going on here. He bought a 4890. I have stated that I don't think it is going to be easy or work right off.

He dumped the ROM from his card and I made a Mac ROM for it. But we have no way of knowing how it works until he comes back and posts.

[alam]

I have absolutely no idea.

My guess is that whiteyz is having some issue or we would have had a gleeful report from him.

And don't buy anything until we know how it works.

Maybe you don't understand what is going on here. He bought a 4890. I have stated that I don't think it is going to be easy or work right off.

He dumped the ROM from his card and I made a Mac ROM for it. But we have no way of knowing how it works until he comes back and posts.

so when whiteyz flash his card with the new rom, we will know if it worked or not.
ok i'll wait until we hear from whiteyz his report about his experience with the new rom, i just hope it will work out, because i've been waiting too long for this moment.

[Whiteyez]

Ok i thinkg im ready to flash it, but im worried about the dump of the rom that i did, maybe i did it wrong, because i read something about 128kb size, and GPUZ gave me 64000k. Is that ok? Ok now i dump it with winflash and gave me 128kb. Here is the ROM, can you make a custom ROM with this pls Rominator so i can try it?

Thanks

[Whiteyez]

THIS IS ALL AT YOUR OWN RISK

I MAKE NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS WILL NOT BRICK YOUR CARD

Got that out of the way. I have taken the EFI portion of ROM and changed device id to match card & PC BIOS. I then used pipolomo42's method to construct a Mac 4890 ROM.

It might make the card show up in OSX...but for sure no QE or CI until you add the device id to the ATI kexts. It is also possible that Apple will add these to a future driver update.

I don't expect this is gonna be a final solution, but rather a step in the path.

Good luck.

I flashed with this but nothing changed.

[The Rominator]

OK...try this.

[The Rominator]

Hello?

Even booting DOS off a USB stick you could have flashed this 100 times by now.

Posting failures is just as important as posting success.

Card should function exactly as it did...hopefully with SOME appearance of life in OSX.

[Whiteyez]

Hello?

Even booting DOS off a USB stick you could have flashed this 100 times by now.

Posting failures is just as important as posting success.

Card should function exactly as it did...hopefully with SOME appearance of life in OSX.

Well, i had problem with the previous flash, so i had to give my 4890 for RMA. And i think im going to wait for 10.5.7 this week ( i hope ).

[alam]

crap
i guess i'll wait for u to Whiteyez