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Darkroom
Apr 2, 2009, 05:34 PM
if anyone living in or around Montréal wants to swing by my apartment to pick up this book (http://www.amazon.ca/Programming-Objective-C-Stephen-Kochan/dp/0672325861/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1238711434&sr=8-2) for free just send me a message. it's in excellent condition. the reason i'm giving it away is because i bought the newer version (Programming In Objective-C 2.0).



rrrogerbugs
May 12, 2009, 02:05 PM
Sure,

I'm starting to learn objective c from the net, but I'll use it.


please contact me, I am in Montreal

thanks

idelovski
May 12, 2009, 04:00 PM
I have the first edition (plus Learn Objective-C by Dalrymple & Knaster).

Is it worth buying the 2nd edition even in my case?

Darkroom
May 12, 2009, 04:10 PM
rrrogerbugs now has the book. hope you find it useful. :)


I have the first edition (plus Learn Objective-C by Dalrymple & Knaster).

Is it worth buying the 2nd edition even in my case?

i don't think it's absolutely necessary, but knowing the new features of Obj-C 2.0 can help speed up development. plus, it's updated for XCode 3, which makes it easier for beginners to follow along. it's a great reference book to have at your disposal, and there's even has a small section that gets you started on iPhone development.

skochan
May 12, 2009, 04:20 PM
I agree with Darkroom that I don't think it's necessary to invest in the second edition. You can try to work through the first edition then go to Apple's website to read up on the changes added to Objective-C 2.0 (Don't have the link to the document handy).

The primary differences between the first and second editions are:

1. The 2nd edition is Mac-oriented from the start, so it uses NSObject (rather than Object) as the root object throughout.
2. Uses NSLog almost exclusively (the 1st ed. used printf for the first part)
3. Teaches Obj-C 2.0 features like properties, synthesized accessor methods, and fast enumeration.
4. As noted, includes a Chapter on iPhone programming that shows how to build an iPhone app based on two of the classes developed in the text.
5. Is a bit more to up-to-date with respect to not using deprecated methods.

You can also ask questions about anything related to the first edition or about Objective-C in general on the forum I set up for the book at www.classroomM.com.

Cheers,

Steve Kochan

idelovski
May 13, 2009, 03:35 AM
Thanks for the replies,

I have read the 1st edition last October from cover to cover and I can say that for maybe up to 4 or 5 computer books.

The 2nd edition is on my Amazon Wishlist and soon I'll buy it.