While many in the mac community, and elsewhere, claim that the PowerPC systems that Apple offers are overpriced, there is often little that can be said about what such systems would cost if built with commodity parts. This is changing, as more and more companies hop onto the Power architecture, and it is exactly this phenomenon I would like to comment on.
Some of you are no doubt aware of the PegasOS movement, which is a PowerPC machine/OS bundle initiative. They pretty much allow others to manufacture the hardware, while providing the Morph software as the underlying pinnings.
With that in mind, only one of the US distributors does anything like openly stating what they charge. I give you the independent, commodity-built PowerPC tower:
Pegasos II/PPC
Nexus Vivid Blue case w/ 330W psu (Screwless design for easy future modifications)
Pegasos II Mainboard and Motorola G4 Processor @ 1Ghz (133mhz FSB)
ATI Radeon 9200 8x 128MB Graphics card
40GB Hard Disk Drive
256MB (DDR400) PC3200 RAM
Standard Keyboard and Mouse
Standard CDRW drive
Cost: $1,495
More specifically, the Pegasos II mainboard
# MicroATX mainboard (236 mm x 172 mm), compatible with all ATX-compliant cases.
# Open Firmware .
# MV64361 Discovery II System Controller from Marvell.
# PC2100 RAM , two sockets for DDR-266 with up to 8 gigabytes total.
# AGP slot .
# PCI subsystem with three 32bit, 33MHz slots, optional Riser Card.
# IEEE1394/Firewire providing 100, 200 or 400 megabits of data bandwidth.
# Gigabit ethernet provided by the Marvell Discovery II MV64361
# 10/100 megabit ethernet using a VIA Rhine controller.
# USB subsystem giving two external connectors and one internal connector, provided by the VIA 8231 chipset.
# SPDIF digital audio connector.
# AC97 sound subsystem with microphone input, line in/out and headset connector, provided by the Sigmatel STAC 9766 codec.
# IRDA for infra-red remote control.
# ATA100-compatible IDE support with two channels for up to four ATA devices, provided by the VIA 8231 chipset.
# Two PS/2 connectors for use with standard PS/2 mice and keyboards.
# Serial (RS232) port.
# Parallel (Centronics) port.
# Gameport for PC-compatible joysticks.
# Floppy drive connector.
# Two operating systems included: MorphOS , Debian GNU/Linux with Mac-on-Linux .
Apple G5 1.6 Single
Apple G5 case w/ 600w PSU (You know how easy these things are to get into)
Apple G5 Mainboard and IBM G5 processor @ 1.6ghz (800mhz FSB)
ATI Radeon 9600 Pro (AGP 8x)
80GB SATA HD
256 MB PC3200 RAM
CD-DVD Combo Drive
Apple USB Keyboard and Optical Mouse
iLife
OSX 10.3.3
Cost: $1,620 (no specials, rebates, or anything else)
Apple overpriced? For less than $150 more, you get a G5 at higher clock, more drive on SATA, a better graphics card, a better optical drive, and all the benefits of Apple's components being integrated and not using Linux drivers.
Booya.
Some of you are no doubt aware of the PegasOS movement, which is a PowerPC machine/OS bundle initiative. They pretty much allow others to manufacture the hardware, while providing the Morph software as the underlying pinnings.
With that in mind, only one of the US distributors does anything like openly stating what they charge. I give you the independent, commodity-built PowerPC tower:
Pegasos II/PPC
Nexus Vivid Blue case w/ 330W psu (Screwless design for easy future modifications)
Pegasos II Mainboard and Motorola G4 Processor @ 1Ghz (133mhz FSB)
ATI Radeon 9200 8x 128MB Graphics card
40GB Hard Disk Drive
256MB (DDR400) PC3200 RAM
Standard Keyboard and Mouse
Standard CDRW drive
Cost: $1,495
More specifically, the Pegasos II mainboard
# MicroATX mainboard (236 mm x 172 mm), compatible with all ATX-compliant cases.
# Open Firmware .
# MV64361 Discovery II System Controller from Marvell.
# PC2100 RAM , two sockets for DDR-266 with up to 8 gigabytes total.
# AGP slot .
# PCI subsystem with three 32bit, 33MHz slots, optional Riser Card.
# IEEE1394/Firewire providing 100, 200 or 400 megabits of data bandwidth.
# Gigabit ethernet provided by the Marvell Discovery II MV64361
# 10/100 megabit ethernet using a VIA Rhine controller.
# USB subsystem giving two external connectors and one internal connector, provided by the VIA 8231 chipset.
# SPDIF digital audio connector.
# AC97 sound subsystem with microphone input, line in/out and headset connector, provided by the Sigmatel STAC 9766 codec.
# IRDA for infra-red remote control.
# ATA100-compatible IDE support with two channels for up to four ATA devices, provided by the VIA 8231 chipset.
# Two PS/2 connectors for use with standard PS/2 mice and keyboards.
# Serial (RS232) port.
# Parallel (Centronics) port.
# Gameport for PC-compatible joysticks.
# Floppy drive connector.
# Two operating systems included: MorphOS , Debian GNU/Linux with Mac-on-Linux .
Apple G5 1.6 Single
Apple G5 case w/ 600w PSU (You know how easy these things are to get into)
Apple G5 Mainboard and IBM G5 processor @ 1.6ghz (800mhz FSB)
ATI Radeon 9600 Pro (AGP 8x)
80GB SATA HD
256 MB PC3200 RAM
CD-DVD Combo Drive
Apple USB Keyboard and Optical Mouse
iLife
OSX 10.3.3
Cost: $1,620 (no specials, rebates, or anything else)
Apple overpriced? For less than $150 more, you get a G5 at higher clock, more drive on SATA, a better graphics card, a better optical drive, and all the benefits of Apple's components being integrated and not using Linux drivers.
Booya.