Apple Updates iTunes to 8.1.1

[MacRumors]

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Apple has released a new version update (http://support.apple.com/downloads/iTunes_8_1_1_for_Mac) for iTunes today that brings the application up to version 8.1.1.:iTunes 8.1.1 adds support for renting HD movies and provides a number of bug fixes, including addressing issues with VoiceOver and syncing with iPhone or iPod touch.iTunes 8.1 was released (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/11/itunes-8-1-now-available-for-download/) in early March and added a number of new features (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/11/itunes-8-1-now-available-for-download/).

Article Link: Apple Updates iTunes to 8.1.1 (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/06/apple-updates-itunes-to-8-1-1/)

[Eidorian]

So does it fix the random pauses I'm having in iTunes now? Even in the Windows version but Tiger is worse off than Leopard.

[michael.lauden]

there has been a lot added to iTunes lately - i just wish they decreased the memory+processor usage footprint for once.

[macaco74]

So does it fix the random pauses I'm having in iTunes now? Even in the Windows version but Tiger is worse that Leopard.

+1 - I hate that I cannot scroll like I used to

[ThomasJL]

Could this mean that 10.5.7 could possibly be released today as well?

[Aldaris]

:rolleyes:
These constant restart iTunes, reboot Apple TV have got to stop (although it's still my favorite product out there)

[theBigD23]

Could this mean that 10.5.7 could possibly be released today as well?

It COULD be, but I highly doubt it would be because 8.1.1 of iTunes was released.

[Jayomat]

always welcome, but does it fix the issue with coverflow? im still experiencing it.

Could this mean that 10.5.7 could possibly be released today as well?

what makes you think so???

[happydude]

so does this make iTunes snappier?

[drober30]

All these releases/updates/fixes is a pain the a$$ and annoying! Seems more like a Microsoft practice.

Hopefully it does not require a reboot. I tired of the bouncing icon.

[Rondue]

another iTunes verison jeez they need a fricken road map. Plan don't just randomly come up with new features forcing update after update.

[Eidorian]

+1 - I hate that I cannot scroll like I used toIn Tiger it just beachballs whenever you start it up for about a minute. It freaked me out the first time because I thought it would never respond again or it was a broken installation. The interesting thing is that when I run Leopard on that same iMac it happens in Leopard too.

In Leopard/Windows Vista you get weird pauses in the middle of a song and have to hit play again or it takes 5-10 to load up a new song when you click on it.

[devburke]

In Tiger it just beachballs whenever you start it up for about a minute. It freaked me out the first time because I thought it would never respond again or it was a broken installation. The interesting thing is that when I run Leopard on that same iMac it happens in Leopard too.

In Leopard/Windows Vista you get weird pauses in the middle of a song and have to hit play again or it takes 5-10 to load up a new song when you click on it.

That's weird, I'm on Leopard and it's never happened to me.

[Eric S.]

I often have problems syncing my iPod touch. It would be nice if this really did fix that.

[Eidorian]

That's weird, I'm on Leopard and it's never happened to me.The song pauses out of the blue have been uncommon for me in Leopard for months now. It tends to pick a song and then playback works fine after that.

[gt1948]

:rolleyes:
These constant restart iTunes, reboot Apple TV have got to stop (although it's still my favorite product out there)

Yeap just started having the non stop sync on ATV.....hope this fixes that.

[Ade-iMac-177]

Hey - is it just me or have they changed the font and size used to details in system update?

[Eric S.]

All these releases/updates/fixes is a pain the a$$ and annoying! Seems more like a Microsoft practice.

Really. The nerve of Apple, actually sending out fixes for problems. :rolleyes:

Hopefully it does not require a reboot. I tired of the bouncing icon.

A reboot of your Mac? No, not required.

[Jayomat]

installed, no reboot needed. so far, it seems as if cover flows works properly again. yay :cool:

[Ade-iMac-177]

Hopefully this means the variable prices arrive tomorrow then.

[iWizzard]

I relly would like to see a new download manager, Itus sux when it comes to dl podcasts. Im trying to dl a feed that has 60 podcast in it, it is almost imposible.

[Stately]

I have had trouble updating apps in itunes. Hope this issue disappears as no one at Apple seems to have an answer for this one. :cool:

[Eidorian]

I relly would like to see a new download manager, Itus sux when it comes to dl podcasts. Im trying to dl a feed that has 60 podcast in it, it is almost imposible.Did you turn off simultaneous downloads?

[Oneness]

All these releases/updates/fixes is a pain the a$$ and annoying! Seems more like a Microsoft practice.

Hopefully it does not require a reboot. I tired of the bouncing icon.

Actually if it were Microsoft they would make a commerical bashing the rival music management software while totally ignoring their own epic failure.;)

[The ArchAngel]

installed, no reboot needed. so far, it seems as if cover flows works properly again. yay :cool:

Thank goodness, I thought it was just me that was having issues with CoverFlow performance in the latest update!

[michael.lauden]

In Tiger it just beachballs whenever you start it up for about a minute. It freaked me out the first time because I thought it would never respond again or it was a broken installation. The interesting thing is that when I run Leopard on that same iMac it happens in Leopard too.

In Leopard/Windows Vista you get weird pauses in the middle of a song and have to hit play again or it takes 5-10 to load up a new song when you click on it.

i run tiger on my 1.66GHz mini and leopard on my MacBook.

i have not had any problems with any version of iTunes to date. i do admit coverflow is a bit slow sometimes but i never use that any ways....

[morespce54]

Hopefully this means the variable prices arrive tomorrow then.

And please, the rest of the non-drm tracks too...

[Eidorian]

i run tiger on my 1.66GHz mini and leopard on my MacBook.

i have not had any problems with any version of iTunes to date. i do admit coverflow is a bit slow sometimes but i never use that any ways....The slowness and loading pauses are post 8.1 for me.

Keep in mind this is on 3 computers that I own running different operating systems. I haven't installed it on my iMac G4, yet.

[Kar98]

Really. The nerve of Apple, actually sending out fixes for problems. :rolleyes:

It's never fixes, it's always "download another 68 MB of the full program."

A reboot of your Mac? No, not required.

Not this time around.

[Ade-iMac-177]

And please, the rest of the non-drm tracks too...

HEY!!! all non iTunes Plus songs have just disappeared from the store - looks like they are doing the final conversions tonight!! They are gearing up for the variable pricing - hopefully tomorrow like the rumour said

[andyx181x]

ahh!! when i first installed 8.1 itunes kept crashing and i could never open the program again, I had to revert back to 8.0 restore my whole library and now 8.1.1 is doing the same exact thing. I can't open my itunes at all!

[slapppy]

:rolleyes:
These constant restart iTunes, reboot Apple TV have got to stop (although it's still my favorite product out there)

Thats happened a few times for me also since the last update of iTunes. Lets see if this fixes it.

[morespce54]

HEY!!! all non iTunes Plus songs have just disappeared from the store - looks like they are doing the final conversions tonight!! They are gearing up for the variable pricing - hopefully tomorrow like the rumour said

Now the question is... will they keep the little plus sign? ;)

[iParis]

I wonder if this will fix some of the speed issues I've had when syncing on 3.0.

[SkippyThorson]

i run tiger on my 1.66GHz mini and leopard on my MacBook.

i have not had any problems with any version of iTunes to date. i do admit coverflow is a bit slow sometimes but i never use that any ways....

Same - Tiger on my iBook and Leopard on my iMac. I've had no problems with either one other than a lag in the CoverFlow department. I never use it because I'm simply not a fan. I'm even more displeased with CoverFlow becoming a navigation option for everything, but other than that, I have no complaints.

[SirROM]

It COULD be, but I highly doubt it would be because 8.1.1 of iTunes was released.

Apple has a habit of releasing several updates simultaneously. There was no new DevBuild of 10.5.7 over the weekend that I've heard of, so that suggests that release is quite close. If not today, then I would expect it by the end of the week. Or maybe it's just me....

[Amdahl]

I see a 64-bit version of 8.1.1 for Windows. Is this a first?

[sunfast]

so does this make iTunes snappier?

Completely off topic, but probably time you edited your signature... :)

[Saladinos]

Wake me up when it moves to Cocoa

[aiterum]

any word about this fixing the problem with scrolling through the library that people were having (myself included) with 8.1? (where the beachball comes up randomly when you scroll through your library)

[ghostface147]

I see a 64-bit version of 8.1.1 for Windows. Is this a first?

No. I have been using 64-bit iTunes for awhile now. Runs well on Windows 7 x64 as well.

[Amdahl]

No. I have been using 64-bit iTunes for awhile now. Runs well on Windows 7 x64 as well.

Ya, I see it has been around for over a year. I guess this is the first time they have listed it as an item on their support/downloads page.

[Eric S.]

It's never fixes, it's always "download another 68 MB of the full program."

Which took me all of about one minute to download wirelessly AND install on my Macbook.

[DELLsFan]

Oh ... I do hope it fixes this weird problem I'm having whenever I try to access the iTunes store. It shows as loading until the loading bar is almost full and pauses for sometimes as long as 30 seconds before it finishes rendering the iTunes home page.

Does this happen to anyone else perchance? :confused:

[twoodcc]

Could this mean that 10.5.7 could possibly be released today as well?

now that would be a nice surprise. and new xserves tomorrow as well?

[-Ryan-]

Which took me all of about one minute to download wirelessly AND install on my Macbook.

Regardless of how long it takes to download, Kar98 has definitely got a point. Why can bug fixes not simply be patches rather than full installs? A bit foolish to create applications unable to be patched. :mad:

[Tallest Skil]

"Adds Genius Sidebar for Movies and TV Shows"

*looks at existing iTunes and sees Genius sidebar*
*looks at iTunes version number*

"8.1. Hmm..."

Anyone else confused by that?:confused:

Oh, rather, anyone else confused by the fact that it actually TELLS us what it fixed instead of "stability and bug fixes"?

Looks like we have one benefit from Steve leaving...

[Westside guy]

Does anyone know if this update breaks Requiem?

[xUKHCx]

"Adds Genius Sidebar for Movies and TV Shows"

*looks at existing iTunes and sees Genius sidebar*
*looks at iTunes version number*

"8.1. Hmm..."

Anyone else confused by that?:confused:

Not really if you actually read the notice

iTunes 8.1 is now faster and more responsive. You will enjoy noticeable improvements when working with large libraries, browsing the iTunes Store, preparing to sync with iPod or iPhone, and optimizing photos for syncing.


In addition, iTunes 8.1 provides many other improvements and bug fixes, including:

• Supports syncing with iPod shuffle (3rd generation).
• Allows friends to request songs for iTunes DJ.
• Adds Genius sidebar for your Movies and TV Shows.

Oh, rather, anyone else confused by the fact that it actually TELLS us what it fixed instead of "stability and bug fixes"?

Looks like we have one benefit from Steve leaving...

Hardly an extensive list and in seems to be consistent with what we had under Steve.

iTunes 8.1.1 adds support for renting HD movies and provides a number of bug fixes, including addressing issues with VoiceOver and syncing with iPhone or iPod touch.

[Tallest Skil]

Well, that doesn't make any sense. Why would they have left the 8.1.0 crap in there?

[Eric S.]

Regardless of how long it takes to download, Kar98 has definitely got a point. Why can bug fixes not simply be patches rather than full installs? A bit foolish to create applications unable to be patched. :mad:

I'm sure they could create patches but what would be the point, if replacing the entire app is simple and painless? Patch procedures get messy if you have patches on top of patches, and it complicates testing to support all of the patch permutations. It's much simpler to just say you've got version 8.1 or 8.1.1 or whatever.

[xUKHCx]

Well, that doesn't make any sense. Why would they have left the 8.1.0 crap in there?

At a guess for those people who skipped 8.1 until now and as such they can find out the new features, of 8.1.x.

[michael.lauden]

The slowness and loading pauses are post 8.1 for me.

Keep in mind this is on 3 computers that I own running different operating systems. I haven't installed it on my iMac G4, yet.

well if your iMac G4 is higher spec'd than those other computers.. it may explain a lot haha :D

[francoliu]

Has anyone actually found an HD movie for rent? I don't see any anywhere.

[michael.lauden]

Has anyone actually found an HD movie for rent? I don't see any anywhere.

would you actually want to rent an HD movie?

24 hours to watch a movie isn't worth paying for - i'd rather pay an extra 5-10 bucks and own it

[NightStorm]

would you actually want to rent an HD movie?

24 hours to watch a movie isn't worth paying for - i'd rather pay an extra 5-10 bucks and own it

If I can't watch a 2 hour movie movie from beginning to end in 24 hours, I wouldn't start it until I knew I could. I don't think it's asking too much.

[Oh-es-Ten]

Thank goodness, I thought it was just me that was having issues with CoverFlow performance in the latest update!

Looks like they fixed what I submitted a bug-report for...

Two finger scrolling in cover flow left and right was impossible and unpredicatble on the glass trackpads. This is now fixed in 8.1.1 - scrolls as it should. Nice.

Also (slightly off topic) I filed another bug report for the same weird behaviour when using pinch to zoom (no precision) in Safari 4 Beta.

[kas23]

The big question I have: does it make iPhone syncing any faster? At least make it tolerable?

[Tastic Bycrom]

HEY!!! all non iTunes Plus songs have just disappeared from the store - looks like they are doing the final conversions tonight!! They are gearing up for the variable pricing - hopefully tomorrow like the rumour said

Heh. Yeah, I got 1 album left that did not have an iTunes plus upgrade and it's not on the iTunes store now (maybe there's an option to see it, can't remember where the plus preference was anymore). Hope they'll get this remaining few over soon.

[smartalic34]

Hey - is it just me or have they changed the font and size used to details in system update?

yes it appears they have. it'll be interesting to see if this continues or where else it shows up...

[Marx55]

ESSENTIAL FEATURE MISSING:

Resume playback. That simple!

Even the old SoundJam MP from which iTunes was created had it. Great to listen from head to toe large playlists on iTunes on the Mac.

[stcanard]

would you actually want to rent an HD movie?

24 hours to watch a movie isn't worth paying for - i'd rather pay an extra 5-10 bucks and own it

24 hours is the same I get out of the video store, for the same price.

There are a lot of movies worth watching once, but not nearly so many worth the money to watch many times.

Software update seems to be in a bad mood right now, anybody know if HD rentals through iTunes (not Apple TV) are available in Canada too, or is this another US-only feature?

[BRLawyer]

That's weird, I'm on Leopard and it's never happened to me.

Same here...this problem has never happened to me. In fact, iTunes is probably the most flawless piece of software ever on my iMac.

[CaptainScarlet]

Has anyone actually found an HD movie for rent? I don't see any anywhere.

I haven't either....

[BRLawyer]

ESSENTIAL FEATURE MISSING:

Resume playback. That simple!

Even the old SoundJam MP from which iTunes was created had it. Great to listen from head to toe large playlists on iTunes on the Mac.

Get info on any song or songs, "options", "remember playback position"...

[Shagrat]

Which took me all of about one minute to download wirelessly AND install on my Macbook.

Just told me it was ready to install. Didn't even know it was downloaded in the background. 20 seconds to install, no reboot, and still no beachballing, pauses, jerky coverflow. 1st gen Whitebook.

no problems for me, so I'm wondering whether these problems are down to something wrong with your computers??

[ncsmith4]

The big question I have: does it make iPhone syncing any faster? At least make it tolerable?

Actually, Im running into the old iPhone wanting to take FOREVER to backup problem. Ughhhhh. Granted, I AM running 3.0, so that may be an issue, but this is UNBEARABLY SLOW!

[minik]

The big question I have: does it make iPhone syncing any faster? At least make it tolerable?

It's pretty fast actually.

[MD5Hash]

8.1 is just working too well for me right now to justify updating and breaking something on me. Although for some reason after that patch, it stopped showing the "total track time" on the right side of the display box, and now always changes itself into the "time remaining" number instead. Not a deal breaker (obviously) but just annoying how something as simple as that could break.

Did anyone else have that problem after updating to 8.1? Did anyone notice? If this fixes it I'll update but if not, I'll just leave things as is.

[BRLawyer]

8.1 is just working too well for me right now to justify updating and breaking something on me. Although for some reason after that patch, it stopped showing the "total track time" on the right side of the display box, and now always changes itself into the "time remaining" number instead. Not a deal breaker (obviously) but just annoying how something as simple as that could break.

Did anyone else have that problem after updating to 8.1? Did anyone notice? If this fixes it I'll update but if not, I'll just leave things as is.

Don't have this problem with 8.1.1...if I click, it shows total time and stays this way.

[Eraserhead]

Get info on any song or songs, "options", "remember playback position"...

No, that remembers the position in the song, he wants to keep going where he left off in a playlist.

[michael.lauden]

If I can't watch a 2 hour movie movie from beginning to end in 24 hours, I wouldn't start it until I knew I could. I don't think it's asking too much.

well when i normally rent maybe i would want to watch it and then a few days later watch it with family or the girlfriend.

so for me, it wouldn't make sense. 24 hours is too soon for me!

[Shoesy]

well when i normally rent maybe i would want to watch it and then a few days later watch it with family or the girlfriend.

so for me, it wouldn't make sense. 24 hours is too soon for me!

Move to the UK. We get 48 hour rentals, and free health care.

[ozontheroad]

no sure if this will affect everyone running tiger but i had to repair permissions after the update (they were related to iTunes)

safari feels snappier

[Jolly Jimmy]

Horizontal scrolling is fixed in coverflow. I'm glad the update was swift.

[iPhoneNYC]

Just installed the new iTunes - no reboot. Easy as can be. Handled sync with iPhone no prob. Large iTunes library handled fine.

[JoeCanadian]

Since iTunes 8.1, podcast syncing with 2nd Gen shuffles has been broken. I was sad to see this latest update doesn't fix things.

There is a lengthy discussion about the iTunes 8.1 and 8.1.1 syncing problems with the 2nd Gen Shuffle on the Apple discussion forums here:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1939145&start=0&tstart=0

[waleedy]

Hi all ..

I have a 2G iPhone jailbroken with latest OS .. after upgrading to 8.1.1 my iPhone is not synching .. any thoughts? (initially stuck in a back up with bar not moving ... now says synching .. and the stripes are moving )

Any thoughts?

[francoliu]

Hi - I asked this before but no one answered -- I can't find a single movie to rent in HD -- are there ANY in the entire iTunes store?

[jgrant]

Hi - I asked this before but no one answered -- I can't find a single movie to rent in HD -- are there ANY in the entire iTunes store?

I can't see them either.... although I'm in Australia and we always seem to get the new features like this MONTHS later.

[hitekalex]

So now that Apple finally supports HD rentals on the computers.. Have they fixed AC3 5.1 passthrough in this latest iTunes/QT release, to match AppleTV capabilities?

[caliguy]

Well, that doesn't make any sense. Why would they have left the 8.1.0 crap in there?

You mean in the description? I think it's normal for a minor minor release to include the release notes of the minor release.

[NT1440]

Anyone having trouble playing back podcasts? I'm trying to watch the stanford iphone dev one and its skipping visually like crazy and the audio is way off. I've already tried redownloading it.

Maybe its just the podcast?

Edit: its all video.

[songcunzhi]

Finally I can use cover flow again. Thanks god.

[MagnusVonMagnum]

All these releases/updates/fixes is a pain the a$$ and annoying! Seems more like a Microsoft practice.

Hopefully it does not require a reboot. I tired of the bouncing icon.

I find bugs even more annoying than a simple click to fix them. The bug whereby the audio selection menu in the title menu bar didn't work in 8.1.0 is now happily FIXED in 8.1.1. Maybe they do read bug reports once in awhile....

I keep reading that 8.1.1 adds support for HD movie rentals, but this doesn't appear to be true. I can't find a single HD movie to rent. There are several hundred or more available to my two AppleTV units so maybe it would be a good idea if Apple news sites actually tried the update before posting things that it doesn't actually do. Or is this a situation where only SOME movies are available to rent in HD for computers while all are available to AppleTV? I've found exactly NONE to rent on the computer thus far so I'd say it is far more likely that it is simply not supported.

Well, that doesn't make any sense. Why would they have left the 8.1.0 crap in there?

It only said "8.1" features here. There was no mention of 8.1.0 in the feature list so the features do fit what was listed, even if that doesn't really fit the upgrade. But given how close this release was to 8.1.0, maybe they figure a lot of people wouldn't have seen the 8.1 list if they skipped over the last update.

would you actually want to rent an HD movie?

24 hours to watch a movie isn't worth paying for - i'd rather pay an extra 5-10 bucks and own it

HD movies are $20, not $10-15 as your post suggests. I only watch most movies ONCE. Why on earth would I want to spend 4x as much plus use 5-7GB of space to store said move on my hard drive for a movie I have no desire to watch again? So yes, I do RENT HD movies (only AppleTV; I see none to rent from iTunes thus far). As for 24 hours, it generally only takes 1.5-3 hours to watch a movie, so yes that's generally enough.

ESSENTIAL FEATURE MISSING:

Resume playback. That simple!

Even the old SoundJam MP from which iTunes was created had it. Great to listen from head to toe large playlists on iTunes on the Mac.

I don't know what makes you think it's missing in the first place. It's under Get Info -> Options as "Remember Playback Position". It works for ALL media items from movies to music videos to just plain audio music. Try it out.

No, that remembers the position in the song, he wants to keep going where he left off in a playlist.

If that is the case, I don't really get what he's looking for. You mean to LEAVE a playlist and go do something else like watch a movie and then come back later and have it remember where he left off before he decided to abandon listening to the playlist? Or do you mean to exit iTunes or shut down the computer or what? Otherwise, stopping playing music just pauses it. It will resume playing wherever you paused it.

I just tried playing a song in the middle of a playlist and then left it and went back to the general music library and started another song. When I went back to the playlist, the song I was playing was still high-lighted so I could resume where I left off. What am I missing here?

[winks360]

Hasn't this been all been available already :confused: it has for me :(

[biggrim]

I'm still having the issues synching my wife's iPhone that suddenly appeared after installing 8.1.052. I thought 8.1.1 would resolve this but everytime I plug the phone in all I get is verifying iPhone on the screen for AGES! It seems to try and then hang and I have to end task through task manager (windows xp) and it's really starting to annoy me as essentially my wife can't use her phone as it was intended.

Does anyone have any idea what can be done to sort tis? Is it fairly easy to downgrade iTunes to the version before 8.1.052?

Thanks

[xlii]

Move to the UK. We get 48 hour rentals, and free health care.

You got us on the 48 hour rentals, but your health care isn't free. You pay for it on the front end, we pay for it on the back end.

[lamadude]

Move to the UK. We get 48 hour rentals, and free health care.

Move to the UK for the health care? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

[houttbe]

I think that since 8.1 you can move back and forward in the iTunes Store by means of the three-finger swipe, like in Safari.

[Eraserhead]

Move to the UK for the health care? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

Not if you live in the US...

[djsound]

since installing this i seem to have some crackling noise....like faint bubble wrap or something.....coming from my speakers....no its not the speakers....does the same through headphones etc. has only happened since the new itunes install.......and it happens whether or not itunes is even open now....

[HLdan]

I think that since 8.1 you can move back and forward in the iTunes Store by means of the three-finger swipe, like in Safari.

YES!!! I just noticed this on my MBA. Really nice to see Apple implementing this across the spectrum of apps. :)

[Mystic Eddy]

I've installed and reinstalled 8.1.1 several times on Vista, but I keep getting a message before it opens saying "The registry settings used by the iTunes drivers for importing and burning CDs and DVDs are missing...please reinstall iTunes".
All I did was upgrade iTunes, nothing else and now it's saying this every time I open it. Any ideas on how to fix it?

[johnmcboston]

Anyone notice if 811 fixes the 'slowness' problem introduced in 8.1?

[MagnusVonMagnum]

Anyone notice if 811 fixes the 'slowness' problem introduced in 8.1?

What 'slowness' problem are you referring to? 8.1 is much faster with larger libraries. I don't notice any slowdowns here and I'm running my whole house library on a 1.8GHz PPC Mac.

[iMaggot]

Wow I'm late lol, need to DL this :)

[SeaFox]

I see a 64-bit version of 8.1.1 for Windows. Is this a first?
If it's for Windows XP 64-bit it will be.

[Kwill]

Am I the only one annoyed by the information window that cannot be closed? Getting info on a movie in the iTunes Store opens a window that is so tall the close box is not visible. With iTunes 8.1, I could press Cmd-W twice; the first would close the main iTunes window, the second (last) would close the info window. With iTunes 8.1.1 the only way to close the info window is to quit the application. :eek:

[jediaxle]

Since iTunes 8.1, podcast syncing with 2nd Gen shuffles has been broken. I was sad to see this latest update doesn't fix things.

There is a lengthy discussion about the iTunes 8.1 and 8.1.1 syncing problems with the 2nd Gen Shuffle on the Apple discussion forums here:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1939145&start=0&tstart=0

Hate to hear that, I had all those problems listed and it was a pain to go back to 8.0.x because none of my previous iTunes libraries worked and basically had to start over. I'm just dreading that I will need 8.1.x for iphone 3.0 when it comes out and the shuffle problems won't be fixed:(

[Trajectory]

All these releases/updates/fixes is a pain the a$$ and annoying! Seems more like a Microsoft practice.

The difference is that you have to download updates and reboot nearly every other day with Windows. The last time iTunes was updated was over a month ago.

[johnmcboston]

What 'slowness' problem are you referring to? 8.1 is much faster with larger libraries. I don't notice any slowdowns here and I'm running my whole house library on a 1.8GHz PPC Mac.

When I click between libraries and playlists it takes 2-3 seconds (sometimes 5) to switch to what i've clicked on. it used to happen instantly in earlier versions.

[Sehnsucht]

would you actually want to rent an HD movie?

24 hours to watch a movie isn't worth paying for - i'd rather pay an extra 5-10 bucks and own it

Hear hear! :D

I am probably going to get an HD movie or two, provided a good one actually comes out of a studio in this decade. :D

[jgrant]

I'm still not sure why you would BUY a movie when you haven't seen it before... what if you don't like it and you paid the extra cash for nothing? How can you say there are no good movies this decade but be willing to buy every movie you want to watch? Buying them would imply that you like them... I'm not intending to be offensive I just want to know why.
I can of course understand why you would buy something you've already seen.

[MagnusVonMagnum]

When I click between libraries and playlists it takes 2-3 seconds (sometimes 5) to switch to what i've clicked on. it used to happen instantly in earlier versions.

It happens instantly here (no 2 sec delay switching between libraries and playlists) and like I said, I'm using a PowerMac from 2001 (upgraded to ~2005 specs-- see sig.) Maybe you've got a memory issue? What kind of Mac are you using and how much memory do you have?

[johnmcboston]

It happens instantly here (no 2 sec delay switching between libraries and playlists) and like I said, I'm using a PowerMac from 2001 (upgraded to ~2005 specs-- see sig.) Maybe you've got a memory issue? What kind of Mac are you using and how much memory do you have?

well, it happened when I upgraded to 8.1, so not sure it's a mac issue. 2.4GHz with 4GM Ram. (mid 2007 imac). 8.1.1 did not make it as snappy as it used to be.... (thanks for the thoughts though)