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MacBytes
Apr 6, 2009, 02:43 PM
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Randman
Apr 6, 2009, 02:54 PM
In the duh! department ...

Diseal3
Apr 6, 2009, 03:11 PM
Life sucks.. carriers included.

Jeonat
Apr 6, 2009, 03:24 PM
So, they ban you from using Skype even through WiFi. What's next? Ban me from walking over to my computer and using Skype on that, instead of their expensive phone network?

Grow up...

pkoch1
Apr 6, 2009, 03:44 PM
But I does like Skype for iPhone.

Gasu E.
Apr 6, 2009, 03:51 PM
But I does like Skype for iPhone.

C'est vrai?

mkrishnan
Apr 6, 2009, 03:51 PM
But I does like Skype for iPhone.

Oddly, this doesn't seem to be a direct translation of any article I can see on MacBidouille (which is usually what HardMac shows). This is the closest article:

http://www.macbidouille.com/news/2009/04/04/t-mobile-ne-veut-pas-de-skype-sur-iphone

T-Mobile ne veut pas de Skype sur iPhone

T-Mobile a annoncé son intention d'interdire Skype sur l'iPhone. Pourtant le logiciel, afin de préserver les susceptibilités des opérateurs, ne permet pas de passer d'appels via le réseau 3G. Mais pour T-Mobile ce n'est pas suffisant, leur contrat d'utilisation interdisant l'usage de tout logiciel de VoIP sur leurs appareils, même en Wi-Fi.

Il est évident que l'arrivée de Skype sur l'iPhone a de quoi mettre mal à l'aise ces opérateurs qui ponctionnent leurs clients en leur vendant des forfaits aussi gros que possible. Pouvoir téléphoner d'une manière ou d'une autre avec un des appareils qu'ils subventionnent et sans passer par eux les agacent au plus haut point.

Le Wall street Journal qui a fait un tour des opérateurs mondiaux n'a pas réussi à joindre les français qui ne se sont pas prononcés au sujet de Skype. Il est probable que l'ouverture à la concurrence de l'iPhone fera qu'aucun des nouveaux arrivants ne prendra de décision tant qu'Orange ne l'aura pas lui même fait, ce dernier n'ayant pas intérêt à bouger avant l'arrivée du nouvel iPhone en juin et sa nouvelle exclusivité de quelques mois.

But the date and contents are both somewhat different. Oddly also the WSJ article backs the facts in the MacBidouille article and not any of the minor details that are only in the HardMac article.

Oh and P.S., although I does likes my grammar correct, "MacBidouille" I find quite difficult to spell. :(

As for T-Mobile's behavior, c'est trop dommage. Je n'accorderai jamais.

Aqueus
Apr 6, 2009, 03:59 PM
claps - (the action.. and the clap for the b_star_s who don't like it cos its gonna cut into their fatty profits)



however will I get enough posts to get an avatar.. I'm finding it hard to write useful stuff obviously

kironin
Apr 6, 2009, 04:03 PM
definitely a reason for a class action lawsuit if they attempt to block it.
:mad:

spikedscott
Apr 6, 2009, 07:43 PM
How are the carriers gonna be able to stop you from using skype? Just wondering because i can't see and easy way of them doing so.

mkrishnan
Apr 6, 2009, 07:47 PM
How are the carriers gonna be able to stop you from using skype? Just wondering because i can't see and easy way of them doing so.

I think the danger is that they may make Apple pull the app from their nation's iTunes store, but it's a good question... previously the version of this story had been that they (T-Mobile in Europe particularly) were mulling putting a ban on Skype and related traffic on their WiFi network -- i.e. at hotspots. That they could certainly easily do by blocking ports and/or inspecting packets. It's harder to imagine them blocking it even on someone else's WiFi unless they did it via the method of blocking the app's availability to begin with.

The latter option seems almost certain to descend into a whirlwind of negative publicity for them, however, does it not?

shamino
Apr 7, 2009, 09:55 AM
...It's harder to imagine them blocking it even on someone else's WiFi unless they did it via the method of blocking the app's availability to begin with.

The latter option seems almost certain to descend into a whirlwind of negative publicity for them, however, does it not?
Yes, but when was the last time you can remember a wireless carrier caring what customers think?

If you don't want to use Orange, where else are you going to go?

Full of Win
Apr 7, 2009, 10:54 PM
Who exactly at T-Mobile and Roger "announced that they might prevent their local users to use Skype on iPhone or iPod Touch for calling over Wi-Fi"

Was it in a press release, a quote from the CEO, or some nothing in the company?

mkrishnan
Apr 8, 2009, 10:05 AM
Who exactly at T-Mobile and Roger "announced that they might prevent their local users to use Skype on iPhone or iPod Touch for calling over Wi-Fi"

The news media source (for T-Mobile) was the WSJ, which is credible, but the WSJ article did not give a source itself. It's been widely reported (I don't know about Rogers), however, and discussed in the media, and also by the government and SIG's such as a lobby group that represents VOIP companies, so it seems like (whether or not they go through with it), the statement did legitimately come from Deutsche Telekom.