Image of 2 TB Time Capsule Box?

[aznkid25]

Apple just updated the Airport Extreme and Time Capsule last month, so we don't know if the timing is right for a storage bump, but tipster Brandon just noticed that the ClubMac's promo pic of the TC box features an unmistakable 2TB badge. Makes sense to us -- 500GB is laughably small for a device designed to back up multiple machines, and standard-height 2TB drives are becoming commonplace.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/06/2tb-time-capsule-in-the-works/

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/04/4-06-09tc.jpg

[MacRumors]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/06/image-of-2-tb-time-capsule-box/)


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/04/06/155504-2tb_time_capsule.jpeg

Apple retailer ClubMac's 500 GB Time Capsule page (http://www.clubmac.com/clubmac/shop/detail.asp?Redir=1&description=Apple%2DTime+Capsule+500GB+%28Simultaneous+Dual%2Dband+802%2E11n+Wi%2DFi%29%2DNAS+%28Net work+Attached+Storage%29&dpno=7761289) is currently displaying an image (shown above) of a 2 TB Time Capsule retail box in its "Product Detail" section. Apple's Time Capsule (http://www.apple.com/timecapsule/) combination wireless router and network-attached storage drive is currently available only in 500 GB ($299) and 1 TB ($499) models.

The original source of the image used on ClubMac's site is unknown, though promotional product images typically come from the manufacturer (Apple).

Article Link: Image of 2 TB Time Capsule Box? (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/06/image-of-2-tb-time-capsule-box/)

[zwida]

It'd be hard for me to pass up the 2 TB if they offered it for the current high-end price. I'm using a 1 TB drive connected to a AE, but I'd love to be able to keep it ALL backed up.

[Grimace]

That would be a great deal if Apple kept the same price point!

[bloodycape]

There better be a price drop for the 500gb and 1TB because that is kind of expensive compared to other external hd system and similar systems. But 2tb does sound pretty tempting though.

[andrew0122]

Not bad. Now if only they'd eliminate the 500GB and replace the 1TB with the 2TB keeping the same price points.

Honestly though I just bought 2 - 1TB Seagate Firewire 800 drives one just for time Machine for my iMac and MBA and the other for extra storage for $360 and they've been working great from me. I even set up a partition just for my MBA to do it's backups wirelessly so I would really not need this, but I like it.

[Goona]

Time Capsule is too limited, Apple needs to change it into this but with Apple's design:

http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/mediasmart-server/

[mogzieee]

Phoar, but it will cost a bomb probably. lol.

[BenRoethig]

With 1TB+ hard drives becoming more common, it would make a lot of sense.

Time Capsule is too limited, Apple needs to change it into this but with Apple's design:

http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/mediasmart-server/

Slightly different segment.

[roberry82]

I think as we're seeing an across the board increase in the baseline hd's being shipped with Macs, seeing a bump like this is inevitable.

Would be cool if there was some new software in the works to also use the TC as a home media server with total integration of iTunes, Front Row, etc.

[Eddy Munn]

Apple would probably remove the 500GB model, and lower the price of the 1TB model.

[QCassidy352]

Wirelessly posted (Opera/9.60 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/4.2.13918/720; U; en) Presto/2.2.0)

If this becomes the $500 high-end then great. If this costs $700 or whatever then no.

In any case, this is a little surprising because they just updated TC a month ago with the desktop refresh.

[Saladinos]

Not bad. Now if only they'd eliminate the 500GB and replace the 1TB with the 2TB keeping the same price points.

That's how Apple used to do updates. Recently they've been favouring adding to the product lines and keeping underpowered, overpriced devices on the line to justify even higher prices for the top-end models.

If they make the Time Capsules 1Tb and 2Tb for the same prices, I'll buy one.

[BG-Mac]

Interesting. Now just release a software update that lets me use this as a wireless iTunes server and I'm sold.

[RedTomato]

http://clubmac.com is down. I think you've all killed it.

You murrrrrduurrrring baaarrrsturrrrds.

[Diode]

Interesting. Now just release a software update that lets me use this as a wireless iTunes server and I'm sold.

I agree!

Only thing I can think of hampering that would be the music/movie industry for some copy right reason. Apple doesn't want to screw over relations due to their lucrative itunes store.

/Seems far fetched ... but who knows ....

[richdurham]

If this is two 1TB drives striped then I'd be a little concerned. A back up should not have twice the failure potential built in.
Maybe I worry too much.:confused:

[DELLsFan]

I so want one of these ...

Looking to replace the household's Netgear router and migrate to a better family backup solution. 2TB would be quite the ticket. The Time Capsule offers so many other advantages and features over my Netgear setup as well. I just hope you don't need to take out a second mortgage to get one of these once it releases.

:eek:

[Tallest Skil]

If this is two 1TB drives striped then I'd be a little concerned. A back up should not have twice the failure potential built in.
Maybe I worry too much.:confused:

It can't be. There isn't room for two drives.

[syklee26]

is it possible to fit 2TB in current form factor? I have yet to see an external HD that can fit 2TB drive into anything that is not fat.

[Tallest Skil]

is it possible to fit 2TB in current form factor? I have yet to see an external HD that can fit 2TB drive into anything that is not fat.

Yeah... HP came out with a 2TB 3.5" drive MONTHS ago.

[Bad Paper]

A month ago I bought the new 500MB model of the Time Capsule, with an eye toward upgrading the hard drive to a 1TB model. hmm! Right now 2TB disks are $300, which is crazy. But those wonderful 1.5TB drives are looking mighty attractive, so... hmm, prolly go that way

[mikeinternet]

April fools day fake that no one noticed until today?

Doubt it. Cause it really is too believable.

-

But really. I would get one if it acted as a media server for my laptop. I need to plug in my 1TB media library everytime I use itunes. It sucks.

[Razeus]

Time Capsules are wayyyyy to expensive.

Apple really needs to revisit their pricing strategies.

[srl7741]

I would love a 2TB TC. I hope it comes true soon. That sure would give me plenty of backup space and even last another year down the road.

[DELLsFan]

A month ago I bought the new 500MB model of the Time Capsule, with an eye toward upgrading the hard drive to a 1TB model. hmm! Right now 2TB disks are $300, which is crazy. But those wonderful 1.5TB drives are looking mighty attractive, so... hmm, prolly go that way

How do you like the 500GB model? Can I ask how you use the TC? Wireless printing? Drive sharing? Compatibility with Windows machines ok?

I heard you can partition the drive as well ... use one partition for backups and the other for shared storage, for example.

I need teased before I spend. :p

:apple:

[xDYLANx]

Makes sense that they would do this eventually. They need to get rid of the 500GB and make this the new high end.


I'm not posting anything worth while, but oh well

[michael.lauden]

i might be missing something here... but with an AEBS and 2 1TB externals... isn't that MUCH cheaper than the 1TB Time Capsule?

[enkadrummer88]

This looks shopped.

[The Governor]

This looks shopped.

That's funny, but I really hope this is real.

[RedTomato]

How do you like the 500GB model? Can I ask how you use the TC? Wireless printing? Drive sharing? Compatibility with Windows machines ok?

I heard you can partition the drive as well ... use one partition for backups and the other for shared storage, for example.

I love my 1 TB. Got one for work and one for home. Use all the functions apart from using it with windows.

You can't partition a TC disk. You can partition an external connected to a TC I think.

But you can allocate e.g 300GB to TM, on an TC internal drive. How? I think you can create a 300GB disk image, put it on the TC, and then point TM to that for backing up. It won't go over the 300GB.

i might be missing something here... but with an AEBS and 2 1TB externals... isn't that MUCH cheaper than the 1TB Time Capsule?

Possibly. I considered it, but the TC won as it used less power, was less clutter, and did more than the AEBS.

[nagromme]

Time Capsules are wayyyyy to expensive.

Apple really needs to revisit their pricing strategies.

Their strategies seem to be serving them well actually, but I agree, TC is currently priced too high. Then again, so is everything just before a price drop.

The pricing was good when they first came out: I priced out a home-made Frankenstein combination of drives and routers with the best discounts I could find and came up with a solution just slightly cheaper than a Time-Capsule--and far more complex to configure and use. So I went with a Time Capsule and it has been great.

Currently, a home-made solution would actually be enough cheaper to tempt me.

Better yet... I'll just wait for the 4TB to be cheaper than the current 1TB!

[billystlyes]

Yeah, well, MacRumors is the authority for news, so this thread supersedes that. :D

Yeah, whatever...:rolleyes:

[rickdollar]

Time Capsules are wayyyyy to expensive.

Apple really needs to revisit their pricing strategies.

If Apple were to sell the 2TB at $500 it would be a very fair deal. This is based on a WD 2TB bare drive for $319 at OWC. And with the Time Capsule you get an Airport Extreme built in. That's another $179.

[libertyforall]

I wish Apple would enable a Time Capsule/Airport Extreme functionality into a combo Mac Mini or Apple TV -- would be great to have less boxes...

[11800506]

It would make sense if Apple did. If true, I hope they get rid of the 500 GB and move the price slots down instead of adding an extra one though. Still, the image does look of slightly dubious quality.

[NeGRit0]

So could i order the 500GB and then raise hell when i dont get the one in the picture (the 2TB)???

[trip1ex]

It can't be too soon because the price of the 1TB Time Capsule is a big rip off even by Apple standards.

***Upgrade your own TC instruction link*** (http://www.hardmac.com/articles/79/)

[wkw]

So could i order the 500GB and then raise hell when i dont get the one in the picture (the 2TB)???

haha sue them!

srsly, I would order up a 2tb TC if they had one

[nick9191]

They only updated it last month, not happening.

[W1LLk]

Interesting. Now just release a software update that lets me use this as a wireless iTunes server and I'm sold.

YES :D

This is what I have been hoping for....

[shadyMedia]

Fake It just is fake Why would Apple release a brand new Product and Go back in time per say i,e Not do dual band that isn't really smart Plus the Box would be very easy to Photo Shop

Come on guys your smarter then that

[eyehop]

oy vey, I just purchased a 1TB, at what will probably become the 2TB price. They are too expensive, but the wireless router and associated software is the bomb, much better than anything i've used.

[darrenscerri]

That would be nice... 2TB of backup storage! It's obviously in the works, this is technology. The question is when, not if it's being worked on! Bet the price is going to be > $599.

[bedifferent]

haha sue them!

srsly, I would order up a 2tb TC if they had one

Just curious, but is it possible to attach a large HD via USB if the Time Capsule HD become full? I know on Airport Extreme Base Stations it is possible to add a HD to it and make it a wireless backup drive (with some tweaking, although Apple does not support it), so is it possible to simply extend a 500 GB or 1 TB Time Capsule?

[f00fighters]

Many have done it- If you have any time capsule, you can peel off the bottom, removed the screws, and replace the old hard drive with your own 2 Tb western digital internal hard drive. Simple.

[Compile 'em all]

Yeah, well, MacRumors is the authority for news, so this thread supersedes that. :D

Still would be nice to give some credit to whomever found or posted about it. It is not the first time it happens anyway. I post very little these days here for a reason.

[budfoot]

Does this mean it's going to take 4 days to backup now instead of 2?

Seriously apple, instead of increasing space, how bout make it possible to backup a 100 gb drive in a few hours instead of days...

[BTW]

Not bad. Now if only they'd eliminate the 500GB and replace the 1TB with the 2TB keeping the same price points.

No doubt! I'd love 1TB for $299.

[MikeAtari]

I'm still waiting for the MacBook Pro to get a current generation hard drive. 300g is too small. It's time Apple kept up with the market. There should be a 500g drive in the 17 inch pro.

Apple you're losing SALES.
:eek:

[crisss1205]

Time Capsule is too limited, Apple needs to change it into this but with Apple's design:

http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/mediasmart-server/
That is an entirely different product!!! The TimeCapsule is not a server but a wireless router and access point with a built in hard drive!
P.S. the HP setver starts at 600 for the 750 GB

[Tallest Skil]

I'm still waiting for the MacBook Pro to get a current generation hard drive. 300g is too small. It's time Apple kept up with the market. There should be a 500g drive in the 17 inch pro.

Apple you're losing SALES.
:eek:

No, they aren't. Anyone intelligent enough to want/need a larger hard drive is intelligent enough not to buy a hard drive from Apple.

[mc.stever]

There is quite a premium on 2TB drives at the point.
1Tb is 139; 2Tb is 319. I would be surprised if there was not a price increase.
I wonder what a 1Tb drive cost when the 1Tb Time Capsule was introduced.

[PinkyMacGodess]

Don't know if this has been said before on this thread or not but we found out that, at least with all of our distributors, the product info rarely comes from the actual vendor. All the information comes from a third party source that the vendor tasks with providing the information. I know that sounds strange but we have had numerous issues with incorrect specs from our distributors and once, after a real big screw up, got to talk to one of the agents from a description provider. They would check out the inconsistency with one of the vendor's sources and fix it. The problem was never fixed but the product did go 'disco' shortly after. (Discontinued)

Mistakes are more common than people might think.

Now, is this a 'screw up', a leak, or is this 'bait' for sites like this. I wouldn't put it past a reseller to fake a picture just to draw eyes...

[Macmoney]

make it a SSD apple:mad:

[Tallest Skil]

make it a SSD apple:mad:

So make it more expensive for LESS space?

Yeah, great idea.

[PinkyMacGodess]

No, they aren't. Anyone intelligent enough to want/need a larger hard drive is intelligent enough not to buy a hard drive from Apple.

Seagate has the Momentus ST9500420ASG 7,200RPM with G-Shock protection... I'd bet my data on that one.

Has anyone done a comparison on how different drives effect battery life? Would this drive be a good choice for keeping battery life? (Which has never been what Apple claims it should be)

[DSG]

From looking at the source, clubmac appears to be a shop window for www.pcmall.com. The image certainly comes from pcmall, and essentially the same Time Capsule pages, including the 2TB box image, are found on their site. And, on both clubmac and pcmall, the 2TB image appears on both the 500GB and 1TB pages (dual band, not single band).

http://www.pcmall.com/pcmall/shop/detail.asp?dpno=7761289&Redir=1&description=Apple-Time%20Capsule%20500GB%20Simultaneous%20Dual-band%20802.11n%20Wi-Fi-NAS%20Network%20Attached%20Storage

Edit: Sorry, link doesn't work for some reason - you can find the Time Capsule pages easily enough though.

[bartzilla]

If this is two 1TB drives striped then I'd be a little concerned. A back up should not have twice the failure potential built in.
Maybe I worry too much.:confused:

No you don't. A RAID0 stripe can only be considered a backup by people who don't understand the implications of what that kind of disk config means. If that's what the product is going to be then it's coated with hot spicy failsauce.

[PinkyMacGodess]

make it a SSD apple:mad:

Why not make it a wireless NAS box then? With like 5 hot-swap drives and a blinking light on top...

But seriously, SSD would be very expensive, even without the Apple upcharge.

Imagine the cost of a 1TB box... YIKES! :eek:

[ChrisA]

I don't see the point of Apple even putting a disk inside the Time Capsule box. Why not just have a FW800 port and let users buy their own disk? Then if you like, hook up a Drobo unit that is stuffed with 1.5 TB SATA drives. Disk drive technology moves quickly.


make it a SSD apple

That would be pointless. There is no need to save power, the device is plugged into A/C mains. These is no need to make it faster is wireless is slower then even a slow disk drive.

What you really need is the ability to use redundent stoarge or storge that is larger than the largest available disk drive. In other words RAID5.

[Macmoney]

So make it more expensive for LESS space?

Yeah, great idea.

why is SSD so expensive? Are the parts rare,or hard to manufacture?:confused:

[andyh2]

I looked at the image closely on my screen, and it looks a bit noisy compared to the rest of the images. Probably a fake.

Here's a very closely zoomed in picture of it - hopefully you all see what I see http://andyh2.com/uploads/90293a0509751f6cd6674f516b4fe42a.png

[t0mat0]

"Automatic wirless backup for your Mac" ? Looks like they need a tidy up of the page

[DSG]

I looked at the image closely on my screen, and it looks a bit noisy compared to the rest of the images. Probably a fake.

Here's a very closely zoomed in picture of it - hopefully you all see what I see http://andyh2.com/uploads/90293a0509751f6cd6674f516b4fe42a.png

Yep - it's a JPEG alright...

[yourstation]

This is great stuff but can we also have a 2TB Apple TV mr Jobs? Having to hack them is just getting boring...

[Tallest Skil]

This is great stuff but can we also have a 2TB Apple TV mr Jobs? Having to hack them is just getting boring...

The largest 2.5" drive is 500GB.

[twoodcc]

i would love to see them over 1 TB and 2 TB ones for the same prices!

[PinkyMacGodess]

Western Digital is the only company that I've found with a single drive 2TB product. It's of the Caviar Green series.

Reviewed here: LINK (http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/product/44137/review/caviar_green_2tb_wd20eads.html)

Apple doesn't seem to use any WD drives but who knows...

Can you imagine a Time Capsule twice as thick as the current one to house 2 1TB drives? Imagine the heat too. They would also need some kind of controller in there too, to do the raid. I'll pass on that one... I'm already nervous enough that the TC doesn't have a raid option...

[PinkyMacGodess]

The largest 2.5" drive is 500GB.

They use 2.5" drives in the Apple TV? Interesting... I guess they would have to.

They *could* stick two drives in there though...

[KindredMAC]

I would love to see Apple make the TC compete with Drobo in that market by making the HDD/HDDs hot swappable.

[Goona]

That is an entirely different product!!! The TimeCapsule is not a server but a wireless router and access point with a built in hard drive!
P.S. the HP setver starts at 600 for the 750 GBWell this is what Apple should build the unit into, right now its purpose is too limited, I feel they are going that way with the new additions they added in the update.

[KindredMAC]

This is great stuff but can we also have a 2TB Apple TV mr Jobs? Having to hack them is just getting boring...

Why?

I have no need for anything bigger currently in my Apple TV. I stream everything from my PMG5 in my home office. Sure somethings are on the drive but I just looked and I have 4GB of video, 4GB of photos, but the rest is empty space for rentals.

I guess if you don't have a computer networked you might want larger but still, what's wrong with streaming?

[KindredMAC]

No, they aren't. Anyone intelligent enough to want/need a larger hard drive is intelligent enough not to buy a hard drive from Apple.

And don't forget the option to put another drive in, in place of the optical!

[Rocketman]

Steve wants us to live the dual band lifestyle.

Where do I get that furniture, anyway?

Rocketman

[srl7741]

Steve wants us to live the dual band lifestyle.

Where do I get that furniture, anyway?

Rocketman

I want the walls, those are great. :)

[EagerDragon]

I check it and the site does shows the box as 2 TB. One of the pictures of the box does not show the size and another one does. They are also selling two versions (old and newer simultaneous band version). Make sure you order the one you really want. The cheaper one is the older version.

[KnightWRX]

Steve wants us to live the dual band lifestyle.

Where do I get that furniture, anyway?

Rocketman

Ikea.

[hdrew]

I like how the perspective of the box is 3/4 to the right while the perspective of the actual time capsule is straight on. :D

[DELLsFan]

No, they aren't. Anyone intelligent enough to want/need a larger hard drive is intelligent enough not to buy a hard drive from Apple.

I can feel the realism here. As an aside, is it possible to upgrade my 17" MBP's HD to something better than 150GB? I own the MBP 2,1; 2.33GHz bought a couple years ago. I sure don't want to void my warranty this final year, and could sure benefit from the added space.

Yeah, I could boot to an external drive, but the external drive wouldn't be a valid drive to backup with Carbonite or Mozy; so ... just looking at practicality here.

:cool:

[EagerDragon]

Many have done it- If you have any time capsule, you can peel off the bottom, removed the screws, and replace the old hard drive with your own 2 Tb western digital internal hard drive. Simple.

You are correct. However don't you end up voiding your warranty if you open the unit?

Yes, it is possible that they may not notice if you replace the old disk back when you send the unit for service. But what if they have some way of detecting you opened the box?

[Macintown]

Looks like Photoshop to me...
It isn't very hard to make something like this...

Maybe 4 TB? :rolleyes:
http://www.mediavormgever.net/~hickert109/images/tc.jpg

[kemck]

I'll be so pissed I just brought the 1TB last week!

[michael.lauden]

I wish Apple would enable a Time Capsule/Airport Extreme functionality into a combo Mac Mini or Apple TV -- would be great to have less boxes...

you can do that.

it's called internet sharing, and when you set up a network you can share files -> so you could access the mini's hard drive AND access it's connected externals.

[fry3k]

Ikea.


wow, that is seriously all ikea furniture!! haha..

[Bonsai1214]

if they drop the price of the 500gb, i would pounce on that so fast...

< poor college student

[Saladinos]

You are correct. However don't you end up voiding your warranty if you open the unit?

Yes, it is possible that they may not notice if you replace the old disk back when you send the unit for service. But what if they have some way of detecting you opened the box?

I don't like the idea of peeling the bottom off. You know how these things go - it's never as well stuck as it was. It'll come off eventually, and the poor attachment will make it obvious that you opened the device.

[yetanotherdave]

I like how the perspective of the box is 3/4 to the right while the perspective of the actual time capsule is straight on. :D

That's how it is on apple's site too
http://images.apple.com/timecapsule/images/bns_timecapsulebox_20080115.png

[sushi]

Time Capsule is too limited, Apple needs to change it into this but with Apple's design:

http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/mediasmart-server/
Agree with the concept. Time Capsule serves a difference purpose.

Hopefully Apple will come out with their own version of a mini server.

In the interim, I guess a Mac Mini with external HDs is one solution to consider.

I wish Apple would enable a Time Capsule/Airport Extreme functionality into a combo Mac Mini or Apple TV -- would be great to have less boxes...
Great minds think alike! :)

Seems like there is a void that Apple could create product for. With iTMS and increased DL'ing of video material, storage space is needed. With iTunes you can already stream video around the home so a mini server of some sort would make sense.

you can do that.

it's called internet sharing, and when you set up a network you can share files -> so you could access the mini's hard drive AND access it's connected externals.
Yep, this is one alternative.

The nice thing about this is that you can access your Mac Mini like as a headless server. Plus the Mac Mini has FW800 so you can access the external HDs faster than with USB.

[Lesser Evets]

Time Capsule is too limited, Apple needs to change it into this but with Apple's design:

http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/mediasmart-server/

I agree. And a price conscious person would merely buy an Airport Base Station and an external. The 2TB drive will be dinky in 2 years.

The HP idea is excellent. I wouldn't buy it, but I can understand the utility of such a server. Wasn't Apple talking about doing something like this for a while now?

[Old Muley]

If this is true, it would be a nice addition to the lineup. 2TB would be great for a backup since I have to really pick and choose what I currently back up on my 250MB FW drive.

Now if we could just get them to offer this for less that the current 1TB model, I'd be all over it in a minute.

[Random Chaos]

Wouldn't really surprise me given that both Western Digital and Seagate now have single 3.5" standard size 2TB drives available. Apple can probably just swap the new drive in without any other changes.

[mmoran27]

That would be nice... 2TB of backup storage! It's obviously in the works, this is technology. The question is when, not if it's being worked on! Bet the price is going to be > $599.

I added a 1.5 tb drive to mine. I got the drive for 117 at fry's.

[Rocketman]

you can do that.

it's called internet sharing, and when you set up a network you can share files -> so you could access the mini's hard drive AND access it's connected externals.

http://eshop.macsales.com/Static_Pages/index.cfm?page=ministack/ministack1.cfm&ref=GoogleminiStack04062006&title=NewerTech%20miniStack%20FireWire%20and%20USB%20Hub%20and%20Hard%20Drive%20up%20to%20500GB&gclid=CLnF4uK83ZkCFRo-awodRQRJXg

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/ministack/HD_Enclosure_Kits

My simple question is, why doesn't this third party vendor offer a multi-drive case option? 802.11n option?

Rocketman

[queshy]

500 GB for multiple computers is laughable. At those price points, Apple should be offering 2 TB and 4TB, not 500 GB and 1 TB.

[DoFoT9]

500 GB for multiple computers is laughable. At those price points, Apple should be offering 2 TB and 4TB, not 500 GB and 1 TB.

yes i agree, especially when its making multiple multuple multiple backups of the computer over the year (12 if im not mistaken)

[harrisone23]

look at the grainy pixels

[seashellz]

Never having used time machine-it wasnt clear to me- can you just store large drag and drop files into it-or do you have to back up your whole HD?

[geoffreak]

The only drive that Apple could put in there is Seagate's 7200.11 2TB drive. Don't they normally put higher quality drives in their products?

[Full of Win]

Steve wants us to live the dual band lifestyle.

Where do I get that furniture, anyway?

Rocketman
The floating stairs are from floatingstairs.com. Are you stupid or something, because everybody knows that they invented them, and that they levitate via the magic of pixie dust.

[MattInOz]

I don't see the point of Apple even putting a disk inside the Time Capsule box. Why not just have a FW800 port and let users buy their own disk? Then if you like, hook up a Drobo unit that is stuffed with 1.5 TB SATA drives. Disk drive technology moves quickly.


Again like the HP smartmedia server Drobo is a different market.
Time capsule is the play it in and leave it alone solution.

Drobo is the "it grows with you" solution plus Drobo make the server that can support two drobo devices already where would the value be in competing with them.

[zim]

Hmm... I was just about set on ordering a 1TB (the price is a bit more then what I wanted). Maybe I will hold out just a bit longer and see... would love to get the 1TB for the price of the 500GB.

Also... does anyone know if the Time Capsule will drastically improve my wireless? I tried using my desktop's iPhoto library from my MacBook Pro and it was painful, I currently have an AirPort Express (x2, one for extending the single and air tunes).

[pipher]

It figures this would happen, I just bought the 500GB yesterday, and have not even opened it yet.

While I think the 1TB is too expensive, I haven't opened the box because I am still wondering if I should have bought it instead. I am only backing up a Macbook and a Macbook Pro with smallish drives (80GB and 160GB). If the 1TB price drops more inline with the current 500GB I'd be very happy.

[mikeinternet]

Looks like Photoshop to me...
It isn't very hard to make something like this...

Maybe 4 TB? :rolleyes:
http://www.mediavormgever.net/~hickert109/images/tc.jpg

That's pretty good but you should have made it a 4PB, for 4 petabytes.

[Tallest Skil]

That's pretty good but you should have made it a 4PB, for 4 petabytes.

Think Different, man.

1,023 YB

And I only stop there because there is no determined SI prefix above yotta-.

[jayman99]

This is likely to come out very soon. 500GB and 1TB options for backing up a household is too tiny today. The Western Digital 2TB drive is $299, the price of a 2TB Time Capsule would be overpriced like crazy. For some people a 500GB is fine... but a multimedia family would need 2TB. What do you say? Next Tuesday? Would they use the Western Digital Drives you think or "server class"? Remember that gimmick? Anyway, looking forward to next Tuesday.

[DoFoT9]

Think Different, man.

1,023 YB

And I only stop there because there is no determined SI prefix above yotta-.

why not make it bigger? just because there doesnt exist a prefix doesnt mean that you cant have... say...

4098 YB :p

[SuperMacMan]

Does this mean it's going to take 4 days to backup now instead of 2?

Seriously apple, instead of increasing space, how bout make it possible to backup a 100 gb drive in a few hours instead of days...

Obviously you are trying to backup over 802.11n... Duh it's gunna take forever, n is only 108Mbps theoretical, less in real life. Connect to Gigabit Ethernet - much faster.

Now, I don't have a TC - Linksys WAG200G - but I have a WD MyBook 1TB Studio connected via FW800 which backs up very fast IMO. Took 1 hour to backup originally with 180GB data.

[DoFoT9]

Obviously you are trying to backup over 802.11n... Duh it's gunna take forever, n is only 108Mbps theoretical, less in real life. Connect to Gigabit Ethernet - much faster.

Now, I don't have a TC - Linksys WAG200G - but I have a WD MyBook 1TB Studio connected via FW800 which backs up very fast IMO. Took 1 hour to backup originally with 180GB data.

i could of sworn n is 300mbps theoretical....

[gibbz]

i could of sworn n is 300mbps theoretical....

It is 300 (http://compnetworking.about.com/od/wireless/f/80211n-300-mbps.htm)

[DoFoT9]

It is 300 (http://compnetworking.about.com/od/wireless/f/80211n-300-mbps.htm)

excellent. 802.11g on dual band is 108mbps i think.. (double 54)

[willdenow]

The 2TB badge on the original picture has been removed. It now shows a generic box with no indication of capacity.

As much as I like Apple products and design, I'm afraid the Time Capsule USB port for the addition of a hard drive and use that as NAS. In fact, I did. 1.5TB drive was had from Fry's for $140, $70 for wireless N router, $30 for hard drive enclosure, for grand total of $250 (before tax). It's hidden in a closet and so is never seen, so styling isn't an issue. It is recognized as a Time Machine disk and works seamlessly, all for less than half the cost of Apple's 1TB kit. Of course, if money is no object, by all means, go with Apple.

[AidenShaw]

A 2 TB drive means that your single point of failure is twice as large, and can lose twice as much data.

I'm surprised that Apple hasn't looked at the HP MediaSmart Server and the Drobo, and brought some form of redundant, available storage to their NAS box. These two are great, user-friendly hot-swappable devices (although neither is technically RAID).

It's not such a big deal, RAID 0/1/10 is built into some of the really low end SATA controllers these days.

[MacDaddy901]

I don't buy this. Why would Apple update it after it just got updated? They would have just waited until they had 2TB disks to add dual band wifi or up the storage when they upgraded them. Update it and advertise it as new, then update it again? Doesn't make sense. But this would be a good move fore Apple, being that they stayed at their current price. And the 1TB replacing the 500GB.

[MasterNile]

Well the current 1TB time capsule costs $500, while a 1TB HDD costs $100. Assuming they only use 1 HDD instead of 2 they will have to use the WD 2TB HDD which costs $300, meaning the 2TB Time Capsule would probably be $700. Not worth it to me.

[thestaton]

I haven't looked into these in a while. Is it possible to be backing up two computers on the same time capsule yet? One wireless / one wired? Or two wireless?

A 2TB would be pretty nice, simple, and very convenient.

[mikeinternet]

Think Different, man.

1,023 YB

And I only stop there because there is no determined SI prefix above yotta-.

No think 4PB is enough. Who has more than 4,194,304 gigs of junk?

[robindahlia789]

^^^ i don't know anyone who could even fill up 2k of gigs.

[jons]

These things are so overpriced it's not funny. Seriously.

[scottness]

I'd love to see this with easily removable Dual Drives + RAID. :cool:

[MasterNile]

^^^ i don't know anyone who could even fill up 2k of gigs.

I could easily fill up 2 TB, I've got about 500GB of DVD back ups and my iTunes is about 300GB and I'm very fond of multiple back ups, in fact if I had the money I'd buy 4 more TBs of storage, DVR and DVDs take up quite a bit of room.

[roberry82]

I haven't looked into these in a while. Is it possible to be backing up two computers on the same time capsule yet? One wireless / one wired? Or two wireless?

A 2TB would be pretty nice, simple, and very convenient.

It's always been able to do that. That's part of the marketing, as well. "backup all the macs in your house" or something like that, of course all the macs running leopard. I have 2 iMacs being backed up to my 1TB TC, both of used the gigabit Ethernet for their first back up and have wirelessly backed up since then. Time Machine only backs up the changes in data, not the entire HD every time it backs up.

I also use it as a drag/drop file sharing server for the network. Primarily for older stuff I don't need on a regular basis.

I've read some articles about people moving their iTunes libraries to it, but I'm nervous. My iTunes is currently on a Lacie 500gb drive connected by FW800 to my iMac, but I've been thinking about replacing my iMac with a MBP, and wouldn't want to have to keep a drive connected. Thoughts?

[DoFoT9]

I could easily fill up 2 TB, I've got about 500GB of DVD back ups and my iTunes is about 300GB and I'm very fond of multiple back ups, in fact if I had the money I'd buy 4 more TBs of storage, DVR and DVDs take up quite a bit of room.

yes storage is EASY as to fill up!!! i currently got about 5TB around the house, most of it is used.. i am quite keen to buy a nice 5TB hardware RAID (drools) - but i cant even afford an 80GB HD atm haha

[applecultvictim]

I was under the impression that I could get a 500gb tc and load it up with any drive size I want. Can someone please verify this!!

[DoFoT9]

I was under the impression that I could get a 500gb tc and load it up with any drive size I want. Can someone please verify this!!

if you wanna void the warranty and pull it apart--go for it!

[MacQuest]

There better be a price drop for the 500gb and 1TB...

I don't know if this was posted up-thread, but Fry's Electronics had the 1TB TC advertised online for $399 last week... and no, it wasn't a mistake.

Just an FYI.

[pika2000]

2TB? With zero redundancy? I'd rather use a drobo or Windows Home Server, thank you. 2TB "backup" storage without redundancy sounds too foolish.

[patricksan]

No doubt! I'd love 1TB for $299.

I'm also in. I loved the idea.

Currently I have a 500Gb, but it would be better if it was 1Tb or 2Tb.

[applecultvictim]

I was under the impression that I could get a 500gb tc and load it up with any drive size I want. Can someone please verify this!!

if you wanna void the warranty and pull it apart--go for it!

Why would I void the warranty, can you enlighten me? Isn't it a simple matter of opening it up and swapping the hd?

Hey guys can someone who's been ther done that with drive swapping in the tc vouch for it pleas??!?!?!

[DoFoT9]

Why would I void the warranty, can you enlighten me? Isn't it a simple matter of opening it up and swapping the hd?

Hey guys can someone who's been ther done that with drive swapping in the tc vouch for it pleas??!?!?!

here ya go (http://***********/?q=time+machine+custom+upgrades)

[BlizzardBomb]

Knowing Apple, they'll probably update to 640 GB and 2 TB. Well best to have low expectations and then not be unhappy later eh? :p

[EVH]

Now I'm glad I didn't rush out and upgrade to the recently bumped "dual band" Time Capsule.

If this is true, then I may just go for it.

[ryanladd]

could very well be true. the australian online store is down for 'maintenance'....

[OllyW]

could very well be true. the australian online store is down for 'maintenance'....

And the UK Store..

[rob.ger]

German one, too. More colors of the new shuffles would also be cool.

[mcavjame]

here ya go (http://***********/?q=time+machine+custom+upgrades)

The funny thing about your link is the first page of hits doesn't provide a useful link for the guy. If you used the search parameters:
apple "time machine" upgrade +warranty
You'll get better results with the sarcasm.;)

[pwn247]

Apple needs to set the prices according if, in fact, a 2TB Time Capsule surfaces. Something like...

500GB: $109
1TB: $199
2TB: $299

But knowing Apple this will never happen. :p

I'm guessing the 2TB will run anywhere between $300 and $400.

[scottness]

A 2 TB drive means that your single point of failure is twice as large, and can lose twice as much data.

I'm surprised that Apple hasn't looked at the HP MediaSmart Server and the Drobo, and brought some form of redundant, available storage to their NAS box. These two are great, user-friendly hot-swappable devices (although neither is technically RAID).

It's not such a big deal, RAID 0/1/10 is built into some of the really low end SATA controllers these days.

Yeah, where's the RAID? You'd think that they would have thought of that for the rest of us.

[Tallest Skil]

Apple needs to set the prices according if, in fact, a 2TB Time Capsule surfaces. Something like...

500GB: $109
1TB: $199
2TB: $299

But knowing Apple this will never happen. :p

I'm guessing the 2TB will run anywhere between $300 and $400.

Since 2TB hard drives are three hundred dollars right now, your prices are absolutely impossible.

[acidfast7]

Since 2TB hard drives are three hundred dollars right now, your prices are absolutely impossible.

That's MRSP, not what a hardware supplier would pay. Therefore, while not being impossible, it's unlikely that they'd be priced that way.

[OllyW]

Since 2TB hard drives are three hundred dollars right now, your prices are absolutely impossible.

They have also got the 500GB Time Capsule cheaper than the AirPort Extreme.

[Tallest Skil]

That's MRSP, not what a hardware supplier would pay. Therefore, while not being impossible, it's unlikely that they'd be priced that way.

You don't understand. Apple makes around 30% profit per item sold. They would never lower their margins to MSRP.

Price to the consumer will need to be the price of an AirPort Extreme plus the standard price of a 2TB HDD, plus enough after that to hit the right margins.

[talkingfuture]

Well the store is down and the only rumours are this and the XServe. So it looks good for this rumour being true.

[acidfast7]

You don't understand. Apple makes around 30% profit per item sold. They would never lower their margins to MSRP.

Price to the consumer will need to be the price of an AirPort Extreme plus the standard price of a 2TB HDD, plus enough after that to hit the right margins.

So, you're stating that MSRP has no inherent profit margin?

[Tallest Skil]

So, you're stating that MSRP has no inherent profit margin?

No, I'm stating that there is no way that Apple would sell something for the cost of just one of its components.

With a Time Capsule, you're going to pay the full end-user price for both the hard drive inside and the AirPort Extreme hardware. Obviously, there are additions to the price on top of just that.

[scottness]

Only RAID will make this thing appealing to me. Yeah, I like storage, but I also like a solid backup of my backup. Anybody agree, or am I nuts?

[Tallest Skil]

Only RAID will make this thing appealing to me. Yeah, I like storage, but I also like a solid backup of my backup. Anybody agree, or am I nuts?

You're nuts unless you mean RAID 1, in which case the price goes up even more.

[acidfast7]

No, I'm stating that there is no way that Apple would sell something for the cost of just one of its components.

With a Time Capsule, you're going to pay the full end-user price for both the hard drive inside and the AirPort Extreme hardware. Obviously, there are additions to the price on top of just that.

That's where I am confused. If the MSRP on a 2TB hard drive is $300, which is what you stated. I assume that you stated the consumer retail price that you could purchase a drive for.

Why would Apple pay that price? They'd buy them by the 10 000 or 100 000s and would probably pay half (or less) than you would as an endpoint-consumer.

Like, I said, it's not impossible, just improbable.

[Tallest Skil]

That's where I am confused. If the MSRP on a 2TB hard drive is $300, which is what you stated. I assume that you stated the consumer retail price that you could purchase a drive for.

Why would Apple pay that price? They'd buy them by the 10 000 or 100 000s and would probably pay half (or less) than you would as an endpoint-consumer.

They wouldn't. That's the point. Apple pays whatever it pays for drives and whatever AirPort Extreme components cost.

But that's meaningless.

They'll charge us full MSRP for the drive plus the AirPort Extreme in one package.

[OllyW]

That's where I am confused. If the MSRP on a 2TB hard drive is $300, which is what you stated. I assume that you stated the consumer retail price that you could purchase a drive for.

Why would Apple pay that price? They'd buy them by the 10 000 or 100 000s and would probably pay half (or less) than you would as an endpoint-consumer.

Yes, but they won't sell to the customer at that price, they have to add on their profit margin to make it worth while.

[bergmef]

The store is down ... wahoo

[Vip]

New apple TV - hee hee

[bergmef]

New apple TV - hee hee

I hope so ... mine works fine but ...

[Vip]

I hope so ... mine works fine but ...

I love my Apple TV. But could do with 2tb drive ;-)

[iPhoneNYC]

I never had a true backup until TC came along. I would backup specific data but never the whole harddrive. TC is fantastic for that. However, having already purchased an Apple Airport of the N variety, I just plug a far cheaper LaCie rugged into my MacBook Pro. The selling point of the TC HD is multiple computers and that's nice. However a 1TB HD costs just over 200 bucks at the moment so from my point of view Apple would have to be more aggressive on the price.

[bergmef]

I love my Apple TV. But could do with 2tb drive ;-)

I use a NAS and stream all my movies, I only sync tv shows. The 160 seems to be enough. Kinda would like better graphics (higher bitrates).

[vendettabass]

they should definitely reduce the UK 500GB price.

[Vip]

I use a NAS and stream all my movies, I only sync tv shows. The 160 seems to be enough. Kinda would like better graphics (higher bitrates).

What NAS are you using? I have a Netgear - but never really got it working properly with AppleTV.

[Chupa Chupa]

Apple store is down so maybe a 2TB is on the way.

[DoFoT9]

why would they bring the store down just for some tiny little TC update?? this has to be something bigger... (or maybe just a conincidence)

[Vip]

why would they bring the price down just for some tiny little TC update?? this has to be something bigger... (or maybe just a conincidence)

Bigger and Better me hopes. Remember they might be doing XServe update ;-)

[DoFoT9]

Bigger and Better me hopes. Remember they might be doing XServe update ;-)

yes they might be!!!! would be nice. (not that i can afford it)

btw in my previous post i meant why would they bring the store down haha

[bergmef]

What NAS are you using? I have a Netgear - but never really got it working properly with AppleTV.


I currently use a dns323 with 2 1T drives (raid 1). I would like to replace it with a 4 or 5 drive nas but that is for the future. I still have about 120G left on this. Really like the qnap products.

As to how I did it, all I do is make sure it connects to the drive on login, then made a symbolic link to the itunes folder that is there.

[kornyboy]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5H11 Safari/525.20)

This is pretty interesting. I'd love to have a 2 TB time capsule.

[pwn247]

Maybe this is an opportunity for Apple to start cutting their prices. With the release of these "Laptop Hunters" ads from Microsoft, perhaps Apple has finally realized that it's time for some big pricing adjustments. No better way to start than with external components like the Time Capsule. :D

[vendettabass]

just the xserve!

[neil51]

NZ Store is down, surely they wouldn't pull the whole store just for a Time Capsule update? Apple TV update or some bigger?

[seedster2]

These things are so overpriced it's not funny. Seriously.

Indeed. Overpriced and limited functionality.

[finalcut]

yep, way too expensive. And even the 500gb is too expensive. I'd buy the 1TB with a price droped but right now it's a no no

[depulse]

XServe update, nothing new related to the TM

[Nickwell24]

We won't see another TM upgrade until at least mid to late summer. After apple had to issue all those store credits for the 4gb iPhone 1g they will think twice before doing upgrades this close together.

I know quite a few people probably jumped on the new TM with the dual-band and apple would hear a huge outcry from that group if they were to upgrade within a matter of one or two months unless they offered free upgrade, which I do not see happening. So just wait, they will come eventually, but not until at least July.

[zim]

Interesting... I just got a MobileMe email about a special on the 500GB Time Capsule, #30 off the $299.... brining it to $269... hmm could this be an attempt to phase it out? $269 isn't too bad of a deal. I should also note that it is for MobileMe members only.

[puckhead193]

Interesting... I just got a MobileMe email about a special on the 500GB Time Capsule, #30 off the $299.... brining it to $269... hmm could this be an attempt to phase it out? $269 isn't too bad of a deal. I should also note that it is for MobileMe members only.

i just got that email too!

[roberry82]

i just got that email too!

LOL, same. Then I came here, wondering who else had gotten it.

All part of their ploy to get more people to upgrade to Leopard, even though Snow Leopard is eminent and to perhaps purchase a 500GB TC to deplete stock prior to End-of-Life'ing it.

[Furrybeagle]

i just got that email too!

Was about to mention this. They're also discounting $30 off Leopard.

[MasterNile]

That's where I am confused. If the MSRP on a 2TB hard drive is $300, which is what you stated. I assume that you stated the consumer retail price that you could purchase a drive for.

Why would Apple pay that price? They'd buy them by the 10 000 or 100 000s and would probably pay half (or less) than you would as an endpoint-consumer.

Doesn't that not really matter at all either way, a 1TB HDD MSRP is $100 and the 1TB Time Capsule still goes for $500, so if the 2TB MSRP is $300 (that's the price for the OEM from newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136344)) wouldn't Apple still want to maintain their profit margins like they always do and still sell the 2TB for $700?

EDIT: but even if Apple pays let's say half the price for buying in bulk that means they pay $50 for a 1TB HDD and add $450 for other parts and profit, so if they pay $150 for a 2TB HDD add $450 for other parts and profit and you still come to $600 for a single 2TB back up solution, for that price I could get 2 2TB hard drives (or even 6 1TB HDDs) and have redundancy

[scottness]

You're nuts unless you mean RAID 1, in which case the price goes up even more.

Common sense... you know what I meant. --And I'd pay for it.

[Lancelot9201]

Man Apple, talk about price gouging.. I just saw a 1.5 TB drive at compusa in an external enclosure for only $130.00 -- but you want $500 for Time Capule.
Anyone who would accept this kind of pricing & waste their money is a fool. I seldom insult anyone else's purchasing decisions but I couldn't help myself this time. People, I love Apple stuff too but their are other alternatives to just blindly giving Apple your hard earned money & not receiving all you could..:(

[scottness]

Man Apple, talk about price gouging.. I just saw a 1.5 TB drive at compusa in an external enclosure for only $130.00 -- but you want $500 for Time Capule.
Anyone who would accept this kind of pricing & waste their money is a fool. I seldom insult anyone else's purchasing decisions but I couldn't help myself this time. People, I love Apple stuff too but their are other alternatives to just blindly giving Apple your hard earned money & not receiving all you could..:(

While Time Capsule is definitely over-priced, it is more than just an external drive.

•Multiple computer backups
•Print Server
•Port for additional hard drives
•Wireless N router
•Network File Sharing

Does the "CompUSA" external drive do half of that? CompUSA closed for business months ago. I applaud your persistence on not insulting people here. Let's continue not insulting others.

[iJesus]

I just checked that Apple 1 billionth App download prize page and it says that the total retail prize of the package is $13,746 for:

"(1) winner will receive one (1) 17” MacBook Pro; one (1) iPod Touch 32GB; one (1) $10,000 iTunes Gift Certificate; and an Apple Time Capsule"

Now,
+17" MacBook Pro = $2,799
+iTunes Prize = $10,000
+32GB iPod Touch = $399

= 13,198
+1TB Time Capsule brings the sum to $13,697

That's a difference of $49 Dollars between what Apple says the prize is worth and what it actually is. And since they fail to mention which model Time Capsule they're giving away it may have something to do with a prize change in which they may give away a 2TB Time Capsule to the winner.

I'm probably wrong on all of this but it's always fun to do a little rumor math.

[t0mat0]

Any new information on an update? Or is it a yearly thing, near March time for Time Capsule updates?