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keysersoze
Apr 19, 2004, 09:55 AM
Could some expert (or pseudo-expert) please explain to me which is better?

NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200
ATI Radeon 9200

I've read in a bunch of these forums that the brand new PB 12" (with the 5200) sucks because of it. So does the Radeon 9200 suck as well, because it's not in the Pro model, but in all iBook G4's? What's the major advantages of one over the other (if any?). I'm clueless on this. :confused:

Thanks all!

fistful
Apr 19, 2004, 10:39 AM
the largest difference is that the NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 has 64MB DDR SDRAM and the ATI Radeon 9200 has 32. what that means I'm not entirely sure though with double the DDR SDRAM I'm sure the NVIDIA card would out perform the ATI card.

personally I'd rather the 12' pb contained a ATI Radeon 9200 w/64MB DDR SDRAM, not only cause I prefer ATI but I'd also be supporting a Canadian company and that's alway a plus IMO.

hope that helps? :confused:

Zaty
Apr 19, 2004, 10:40 AM
Could some expert (or pseudo-expert) please explain to me which is better?

NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200
ATI Radeon 9200

I've read in a bunch of these forums that the brand new PB 12" (with the 5200) sucks because of it. So does the Radeon 9200 suck as well, because it's not in the Pro model, but in all iBook G4's? What's the major advantages of one over the other (if any?). I'm clueless on this. :confused:

Thanks all!

From what I have heard, the Radeon is better for games, but all in all they're in the same league.

keysersoze
Apr 19, 2004, 10:47 AM
From what I have heard, the Radeon is better for games, but all in all they're in the same league.

Hey, thanks all. I didn't realize the GeForce had 64MB vs. the Radeon having only 32MB. That makes more sense to me.

Chip NoVaMac
Apr 19, 2004, 11:00 AM
Not to hijack the thread. Some here seem to feel that 32mb is crap for video. For someone like myself using InDesign, and Photoshop for my 10D EOS, does it really matter?

I have 12" with 32mb. And I on occasion span a 17" Mistu 17" SB70. I have not noticed a difference while working with my 512mb system memory. What sort of performance increase is had with an increase in Video Ram?

Bear
Apr 19, 2004, 11:04 AM
Not to hijack the thread. Some here seem to feel that 32mb is crap for video. For someone like myself using InDesign, and Photoshop for my 10D EOS, does it really matter?

I have 12" with 32mb. And I on occasion span a 17" Mistu 17" SB70. I have not noticed a difference while working with my 512mb system memory. What sort of performance increase is had with an increase in Video Ram?For what you're doing, you may not notice any difference. In general more video ram will help with Quartz Extreme functions (this include Expose which use Quartz Extreme). If you went to a higher resolution you might notice a difference with spanning.

Although the other difference would be the speed of the GPU. A faster GPU will help as well.

Chip NoVaMac
Apr 19, 2004, 01:29 PM
For what you're doing, you may not notice any difference. In general more video ram will help with Quartz Extreme functions (this include Expose which use Quartz Extreme). If you went to a higher resolution you might notice a difference with spanning.

Although the other difference would be the speed of the GPU. A faster GPU will help as well.

Thanks for on of the more concise explanations. Expose is cute, but haven't found a real good use for it.

ZaniCWB
Apr 19, 2004, 01:44 PM
the largest difference is that the NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 has 64MB DDR SDRAM and the ATI Radeon 9200 has 32. what that means I'm not entirely sure though with double the DDR SDRAM I'm sure the NVIDIA card would out perform the ATI card.

personally I'd rather the 12' pb contained a ATI Radeon 9200 w/64MB DDR SDRAM, not only cause I prefer ATI but I'd also be supporting a Canadian company and that's alway a plus IMO.

hope that helps? :confused:

Actually, the PB 12" that got revised today boasts more video memory. All the discussions involving the ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 and the GeForce FX Go5200 was before today's updates, when both had 32MB. Apple claims that the 64MB out perform by 34% the previous model with 32MB.

Chip NoVaMac
Apr 19, 2004, 02:06 PM
Actually, the PB 12" that got revised today boasts more video memory. All the discussions involving the ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 and the GeForce FX Go5200 was before today's updates, when both had 32MB. Apple claims that the 64MB out perform by 34% the previous model with 32MB.

But that 34% is frame rates based on Quake III. For standard applications (InDesign, Photoshop, and maybe Expose) does that frame rate really paly into anything?

crazzyeddie
Apr 19, 2004, 02:41 PM
But that 34% is frame rates based on Quake III. For standard applications (InDesign, Photoshop, and maybe Expose) does that frame rate really paly into anything?

No. You would not see any difference in 2D apps between any of today's graphics cards.

Chip NoVaMac
Apr 19, 2004, 02:48 PM
No. You would not see any difference in 2D apps between any of today's graphics cards.

Thanks, what about spanning across two monitors?

MrCommunistGen
Apr 19, 2004, 08:25 PM
At least in terms of gaming, the desktop version of the 5200 non-Ultra slightly outperforms the non-pro 9200 by a small factor (do they even make a Pro version?), at least on a PC. Also, at least for gaming I don't think that 32MB vs 64MB is really an issue since most games you'd be trying to play on an iBook probably wouldn't have enough textures to overextend the 32MB on the 9200, therefore making that difference irrelevant.
Just my 2 cents.

-MCG

slooksterPSV
Apr 19, 2004, 08:31 PM
I trust and always use ATI, its just been the perfect video card for me. I'd take ATI over NVIDIA any day even if specs show that NVIDIA is way better. Ati is just a fave of mine ATI (http://www.ati.com) ATI is also developing PCI-Xtreme cards already before the motherboards have come out.

iBunny
Apr 19, 2004, 08:31 PM
I have not purchased my ibook or PB yet... my deciding factor is 2d performance.... so what should i get?

ALL i will be doing is having about 10 - 20 windows open at the same time.... MS word, excell, encourage, chat, internet x a bunch, I will be burning CD's / DVDs and watching Movies... no games.... except pocket tanks lol :)