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63dot
Apr 7, 2009, 12:24 PM
Some say The Fray copies Coldplay and I have noticed Rascal Flatts copies the early, country-influenced Eagles I grew up with. I also thought the Black Crowes sounded somewhat like the 70s-era Stones. That being said, I don't think those bands, while somewhat unoriginal, are bad per se.

Who are your picks?



bartelby
Apr 7, 2009, 12:37 PM
Off the top of my head:

U2

Coldplay

63dot
Apr 7, 2009, 12:47 PM
Off the top of my head:

U2

Coldplay

I definitely agree with U2. Their early stuff, to me, was very original and unlike other bands. However, since Joshua Tree, it appears to me that they have tried to sound like roots style American bands.

I don't know if U2 wanted to sound like a retro American rock band, or just wanted to try and get as far away from their old stuff as possible.

fireshot91
Apr 7, 2009, 12:54 PM
I don't know any un-original bands, but Muse would have to be the most original I've come across.

Schtumple
Apr 7, 2009, 12:54 PM
The majority of post 2000 indie bands (especially indie bands from 2005-7), they all have the same sound, it's infuriating, a genre generally has a broad range of sounds and sub genres where necessary, but there's several bands that could all switch places, and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference... I would post names but I really didn't pay attention to them when I heard their songs.

Of note, I don't hate indie bands, I used to be a massive indie fan, but then there was a massive influx of bands that where very much identical and I got fed up of the genre.

steve2112
Apr 7, 2009, 12:55 PM
Nickelback. Not only does Chad Kroeger sound like Scott Stapp (Creed), their songs all sound the same musically.

Dagless
Apr 7, 2009, 12:58 PM
Oasis' current stuff, Nickelback, Blink 182.

GSMiller
Apr 7, 2009, 01:12 PM
Nickelback. Not only does Chad Kroeger sound like Scott Stapp (Creed), their songs all sound the same musically.

I couldn't agree more. If you've heard one Nickelback song, you've heard them all. Although I did somewhat enjoy "Rockstar" :o

leekohler
Apr 7, 2009, 01:25 PM
Oasis' current stuff, Nickelback, Blink 182.

Thank you. Let's also not forget the early days of Green Day. That was bad stuff. They have since redeemed themselves.

Oh god- and The Offspring. UGH!

Fake Hipster
Apr 7, 2009, 01:27 PM
Nickelback. Not only does Chad Kroeger sound like Scott Stapp (Creed), their songs all sound the same musically.

Yick, for sure. I haaaate that band.

Also, what do you consider indie?

Melrose
Apr 7, 2009, 01:27 PM
Nickelback. Not only does Chad Kroeger sound like Scott Stapp (Creed), their songs all sound the same musically.

I agree wholeheartedly. Outside of one or two of their songs they all sound very very similar. Same for Creed, Hoobastank, and Maroon 5. There a thousand and one rock groups where the singers all sound like that, the guitar fx are the same, and the songwriting it lame. It seems like it started with Nirvana - that grungy, driving-rock, scratchy-voice type of stuff.

Nowadays you simply don't have the creative music. We haven't had a creative Hendrix in decades.

I disagree about U2 - well, to an extent. I agree that in recent years they've become more or less a rehash of the same sound, but lyrically they still have some good songs. While I have most of their stuff, Achtung Baby was the last true, great U2 album.

bobr1952
Apr 7, 2009, 01:33 PM
I'm not a big fan of a lot of current bands precisely because of these very reasons--so I agree with most of what is in this thread. I too do disagree with U2 though--it is hard to continue to innovate and I think they have earned the right to have a lot of their recent stuff sound the same--and not as exciting as their earlier stuff. I too would put Aktung Baby as the last of their best work.

Fake Hipster
Apr 7, 2009, 01:43 PM
I'm not a big fan of a lot of current bands precisely because of these very reasons--so I agree with most of what is in this thread. I too do disagree with U2 though--it is hard to continue to innovate and I think they have earned the right to have a lot of their recent stuff sound the same--and not as exciting as their earlier stuff. I too would put Aktung Baby as the last of their best work.

Coldplay and U2 hold the same fatuous self important sound in my head.

11800506
Apr 7, 2009, 02:03 PM
Many of Coldplay's earlier albums sound pretty unoriginal, but to me at least, Viva la Vida has a much more original sound. In fact, while I don't like Coldplay's earlier albums, I really love Viva la Vida.

ChrisA
Apr 7, 2009, 02:07 PM
Nowadays you simply don't have the creative music. We haven't had a creative Hendrix in decades.


Why do mainstream American beers taste the way they do? Is it that beer brewers are stupid and have no sense of taste? I think not. They taste the way they do because that is what people buy and what sells.

Bands are the same way.

Hollywood movies are the same way

I could go on but you get the idea.

Kurt Cobain's big breakthrough hit has a song that ridiculed music fans and most never realised they were the targets. Pretty much sums up why music (and beer, movies, TV,...) is the way it is. Blame the consumers.

leekohler
Apr 7, 2009, 02:08 PM
I agree wholeheartedly. Outside of one or two of their songs they all sound very very similar. Same for Creed, Hoobastank, and Maroon 5. There a thousand and one rock groups where the singers all sound like that, the guitar fx are the same, and the songwriting it lame. It seems like it started with Nirvana - that grungy, driving-rock, scratchy-voice type of stuff.


Huh? Maroon 5 is a funky bass-driven dance/pop band. They're more derivative of Motown than anything else. Their lead singer isn't even close to sounding like Kurt Cobain. He and Justin Timberlake have more in common.

Jaffa Cake
Apr 7, 2009, 02:13 PM
Coldplay and Oasis both have a formulaic sound to them – you hear one song, you have a good idea what the next will sound like.

For me, Razorlight also exhibit a quite startling lack of originality.

Fake Hipster
Apr 7, 2009, 02:32 PM
Why do mainstream American beers taste the way they do? Is it that beer brewers are stupid and have no sense of taste? I think not. They taste the way they do because that is what people buy and what sells.

Bands are the same way.

Hollywood movies are the same way

I could go on but you get the idea.

Kurt Cobain's big breakthrough hit has a song that ridiculed music fans and most never realised they were the targets. Pretty much sums up why music (and beer, movies, TV,...) is the way it is. Blame the consumers.

Its quite easy to find good beer and good music if you just avoid the mainstream offerings.

allmIne
Apr 7, 2009, 02:42 PM
Its quite easy to find good beer and good music if you just avoid the mainstream offerings.

'Mainstream' and 'good' don't have to be mutually exclusive. In fact, in a lot of cases, stuff becomes mainstream because it's good.

Schtumple
Apr 7, 2009, 02:44 PM
For me, Razorlight also exhibit a quite startling lack of originality.

Same can be said for the bands that have the same sound as Razorlight, that's the kind of indie sound I meant in my post. It's the same old same old, sloppy vocals and slightly distorted/"bright" guitar.

charlesbronsen
Apr 7, 2009, 02:49 PM
Nowadays you simply don't have the creative music. We haven't had a creative Hendrix in decades.

I would have to disagree. We have lots of creative music today with bands like Animal Collective and TV on the Radio just to name a few;)

kainjow
Apr 7, 2009, 02:52 PM
I haven't been too excited about the new music coming out recently. I've started listening to more 90s music. That stuff is good :)

P-Worm
Apr 7, 2009, 02:56 PM
Many of Coldplay's earlier albums sound pretty unoriginal, but to me at least, Viva la Vida has a much more original sound. In fact, while I don't like Coldplay's earlier albums, I really love Viva la Vida.

I guess you haven't heard about Joe Satriani suing Coldplay over copying his song for the song Viva La Vida, then? :D

Have a listen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvB9Pj9Znsw)

Or how about Coldplay taking the melody for this Kraftwerk song? (though it was legal in this case)

Kraftwerk vs. Coldplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0rYO1GDyis&feature=related)

I agree, Coldplay is one original band. ;)

P-Worm

Nadav
Apr 7, 2009, 02:56 PM
I would have to disagree. We have lots of creative music today with bands like Animal Collective and TV on the Radio just to name a few;)

I could not agree with you more, both of their newest albums are incredible. Animal Collective in my opinion hasn't had a single bad album, because they reinvent their image with every record.

Fake Hipster
Apr 7, 2009, 03:04 PM
I would have to disagree. We have lots of creative music today with bands like Animal Collective and TV on the Radio just to name a few;)

Totally agreed.

charlesbronsen
Apr 7, 2009, 03:07 PM
I could not agree with you more, both of their newest albums are incredible. Animal Collective in my opinion hasn't had a single bad album, because they reinvent their image with every record.

And it's great bands like this which never see radio air time as it all goes to the Coldplays and MTV types:rolleyes:

iowamensan
Apr 7, 2009, 03:17 PM
The biggest one that jumps out in my mind is Oasis, or as I like to call them - Beatles v.2

godmachine12
Apr 7, 2009, 03:24 PM
There is some serious Coldplay bashing going on (although it's completely warranted!). The Verve are miles and away better. Originality is very subjective. I could—and am hopefully going to—ignite a fierce debate that every band now is merely copying what came before them (eg. The Beatles, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Rush, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, etc.). True, it may sound different, but just how original, new, and unique is most of the music being recorded today?

Fake Hipster
Apr 7, 2009, 03:27 PM
There is some serious Coldplay bashing going on (although it's completely warranted!). The Verve are miles and away better. Originality is very subjective. I could—and am hopefully going to—ignite a fierce debate that every band now is merely copying what came before them (eg. The Beatles, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Rush, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, etc.). True, it may sound different, but just how original, new, and unique is most of the music being recorded today?

Theres nothing new under the sun.

hexonxonx
Apr 7, 2009, 03:41 PM
I definitely agree with U2. Their early stuff, to me, was very original and unlike other bands. However, since Joshua Tree, it appears to me that they have tried to sound like roots style American bands.

I don't know if U2 wanted to sound like a retro American rock band, or just wanted to try and get as far away from their old stuff as possible.

I would agree but to me U2 lost it when after Zooropa. Everything since has been drifting farther and farther from the sound that made them what they were. I miss the old U2 from the very early stuff. I still have my Red Rocks ticket stub from 1983 by the way.

I will also say that at least half of the music appearing in the top 100 on iTunes is also unoriginal.

yg17
Apr 7, 2009, 04:03 PM
Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, Mayday Parade, Hawthorne Heights and all of the other god awful emo (or whatever the hell you call them) bands that all sound exactly the same.

wakka092
Apr 7, 2009, 04:13 PM
Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, Mayday Parade, Hawthorne Heights and all of the other god awful emo (or whatever the hell you call them) bands that all sound exactly the same.
I don't think Red Jumpsuit Apparatus can be considered "emo." Their first album was pretty good, IMO. I agree with the others you listed; they are homogeneous copies of one another.

Dagless
Apr 7, 2009, 05:14 PM
The biggest one that jumps out in my mind is Oasis, or as I like to call them - Beatles v.2

I don't know about that. The Beatles had some creative tracks, Oasis don't seem to have that. They're a lot more, um, boring that way. I mean I like both. Definitely Maybe is a superb album, shame the same cant be said about their new stuff :o

Shotglass
Apr 7, 2009, 06:19 PM
Indie rock bands. There's some good ones in there somewhere, but most of them sound exactly the same to me.

synth3tik
Apr 7, 2009, 06:24 PM
Pop music in general, late 80's onward.

If it is commercial music it is not original in the slightest.
Jonas Brothers fan are not fans of music, they are fans of pop culture.

Didn't mean to pick in JB, just what came to mind.

Oh also. this new "industrial" or "dark wave" BS that's been floating around. They take trance from the late '90s then try and sing like Dave Gohan over it. It's so stupid. Then non of them can actually play anything, so shows end up being them siting in front of you, showing off their mad space bar hitting skills.

LizKat
Apr 8, 2009, 11:15 PM
I guess you haven't heard about Joe Satriani suing Coldplay over copying his song for the song Viva La Vida, then? :D

Have a listen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvB9Pj9Znsw)

Or how about Coldplay taking the melody for this Kraftwerk song? (though it was legal in this case)

Kraftwerk vs. Coldplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0rYO1GDyis&feature=related)

I agree, Coldplay is one original band. ;)

P-Worm


Yah, most likely Chris should settle with Joe. But, if you slowed both the Satriani and the Coldplay way down and subtracted that strumpa-thumpa beat, you could end up wondering if either of those guys swiped their basic theme from some Gary Moore track (say, Nothin's The Same). The problem comes from the narrow melodic range in the beginning of the theme and use of typical harmonic options offered to those close intervals in Western music. In other words there are only so many places your ear will want to go from those beginning tones.

Given a 12 tone scale, standard Western harmony, typical rock beat, and then pick that narrow range of tones in the beginning, right there you have substantially narrowed probabilities for variation of outcomes. Sure, you could make the theme into a requiem mass or a folk ballad, but these guys are rockers and both took it uptempo, so...

So a judge is probably going to have to point to just the (pretty similar!) results if there can be no evidence brought on past exposure or intent to copy, etc. A graceful thing for Coldplay to do is give a writing credit and pay out some reasonable amount of dough and then everyone get past this flap and keep moving.

It has been said of Antonio Vivaldi by some that he wrote the same concerto grosso five hundred times. Close enough to sound like a copy does happen. It doesn't have to be intentional. Look at Snow Patrol. That band is becoming unoriginal just from copying themselves so many times they're close to running out of toner in the copy-machine, no? Despite now claiming they've arrived at somewhere new everytime they put out another CD.

And since I've now managed to put Coldplay and Snow Patrol in the same post, I'll close by saying that the worst idea anyone in either band has ever had is for SP to open for Coldplay on tour. Whaaaaaaat a terrible idea. They should never even meet on the street, if you ask me. Snow Patrol should take a break for about three years, get some fresh air in Portugal or the Bahamas or someplace lighthearted for a change. Anyway it would be much more interesting to have Joe Satriani open for Coldplay this summer.... :D

Cassie
Apr 8, 2009, 11:24 PM
I don't know if it's just me, but all punk rock is starting to sound the same...

yojitani
Apr 8, 2009, 11:33 PM
I'll probably get flamed for this, but: Velvet Revolver. No matter how many times I try to listen to them, they just sound like the same recycled rock music that's been a mainstay since the late 80s.

Yes, all the pop stuff. Whatever that crap is that my wife has playing in the car...

isethx
Apr 8, 2009, 11:35 PM
Oasis' current stuff, Nickelback, Blink 182.

man i dunno. when blink became mainstream all those years ago in like 1998 with the pop punk, they were the 1st of their kind- their sound has been copied and such but blink style is blink. love them or hate them, they were some of the 1st on the pop punk front.

ceezy3000
Apr 8, 2009, 11:38 PM
the jonas brothers

Abstract
Apr 8, 2009, 11:42 PM
(snip)

Given a 12 tone scale, standard Western harmony, typical rock beat, and then pick that narrow range of tones in the beginning, right there you have substantially narrowed probabilities for variation of outcomes. Sure, you could make the theme into a requiem mass or a folk ballad, but these guys are rockers and both took it uptempo, so...

So a judge is probably going to have to point to just the (pretty similar!) results if there can be no evidence brought on past exposure or intent to copy, etc. A graceful thing for Coldplay to do is give a writing credit and pay out some reasonable amount of dough and then everyone get past this flap and keep moving.

(snip)


Agreed.

I have never heard original music in my life.


Looking at my music, the only thing that may be original is Buck 65, the "Tom Waits of rap". Saying that, there is no real musical element in there that's original. It's just the pairing of the raspy country vocals rapping lyrics that sound like they should be in a folk song that makes it so different from anything else.

Go to the iTunes store and listen to Buck 65> Talkin' Honky Blues > Riverbed Part 5 ;)

http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=30949539&id=30949088&s=143455

c-Row
Apr 9, 2009, 02:25 AM
Are we strictly talking about bands? Otherwise, I'd like to mention Lenny Kravitz who seems to release the same two songs over and over again.

Mr. Giver '94
Apr 9, 2009, 02:44 AM
the jonas brothers

Don't even go there.....


I agree with Punk/Indie stuff and Coldplay too.

Dagless
Apr 9, 2009, 03:25 AM
the jonas brothers

Oh that goes without saying. Something as manufactured as that doesn't have the potential to be original.

Adding Take That to my list. I can't stand boybands (or manbands hurhur) but they have a really good new sound... Ripped straight from ELO. But as a fan of ELO I quite like it. I'll never publicly admit it mind :D.

charlesbronsen
Apr 9, 2009, 08:15 AM
I have never heard original music in my life.
Jesus:eek:

Looking at my music, the only thing that may be original is Buck 65

I hope you are joking

Fake Hipster
Apr 9, 2009, 08:18 AM
man i dunno. when blink became mainstream all those years ago in like 1998 with the pop punk, they were the 1st of their kind- their sound has been copied and such but blink style is blink. love them or hate them, they were some of the 1st on the pop punk front.

Agreed. Blink has a pretty distinctive blend of humor and pop punk. They definitely stand out from the crowd, and their first couple albums (Cheshire Cat and Dude Ranch) were pretty good. The most similar to their style I would say would be New Found Glory, but they don't come anywhere close musically.

Fake Hipster
Apr 9, 2009, 08:19 AM
Indie rock bands. There's some good ones in there somewhere, but most of them sound exactly the same to me.

What exactly do you qualify as indie rock? Name some bands.

Melrose
Apr 9, 2009, 09:15 AM
Why do mainstream American beers taste the way they do? Is it that beer brewers are stupid and have no sense of taste? I think not. They taste the way they do because that is what people buy and what sells.

Bands are the same way.

Hollywood movies are the same way

I could go on but you get the idea.

Kurt Cobain's big breakthrough hit has a song that ridiculed music fans and most never realised they were the targets. Pretty much sums up why music (and beer, movies, TV,...) is the way it is. Blame the consumers.

Precisely. People want to make money - regardless of the point you're making, music nowadays is not as creative as it once was. You can blame whoever you want, but the creativity's just about gone.

The Jonas Bros sound manufactured because they are manufactured. They are a product of Disney, targeted at the pre-teen/mid-teen girl market. Same thing with Miley. The fact that they're a band doesn't change the fact they are still just a branded, advertised, marketed, promoted product of a big sleazy corporation.

Lee - I stand corrected. I get Maroon 5 confused with that group that had a minor hit a year or so ago - I know that's vague, but there it is. I can't think of the band name atm.

c row in re Kravitz: So it's not just me! I Like the Rain had a cool sound, but I think he's waaaay overrated. How Bizarre.

Shivetya
Apr 9, 2009, 09:21 AM
Some say The Fray copies Coldplay and I have noticed Rascal Flatts copies the early, country-influenced Eagles I grew up with. I also thought the Black Crowes sounded somewhat like the 70s-era Stones. That being said, I don't think those bands, while somewhat unoriginal, are bad per se.

Who are your picks?

cloneplay (or is that coldplay)

actually can I just get the play list for most top 40 stations?


U2 now... used to be original when they started.

Abstract
Apr 9, 2009, 12:24 PM
I hope you are joking

No. It's no more ridiculous than believing that any of the bands mentioned so far are "original". Musically speaking, they're not. What's the real difference between Blink 182, Coldplay, and Kings of Convenience? Not as much as you'd think, and yet someone said Blink 182 is/was original.

However, it really depends on what you mean when you refer to a band as "unoriginal", which is why I said Buck 65 may be seen as original, depending on how you interpret the question. It's what Leonard Cohen would sound like if he rapped and had throat cancer. :) I can't think of many bands or music groups around today that try to sound like nobody else. However, musically speaking, he's not much different. Only his style is. It's all pop music.


What exactly do you qualify as indie rock? Name some bands.

Actually, I agree with him. Indie rock can sound very alike. "Indie rock" used to refer to rock bands that were signed to independent record labels. By that definition, even the Jonas Brothers could technically become indie rock if Subpop had a temporary mental breakdown and told them "Ah, why the **** not. I'll sign ya to a contract. Besides, their mum is hot." Signing to an independent label should not be an indication of the style of music to expect from them. But that's really not the case. To most people, it just doesn't "sound" like indie rock, their fans don't dress like indie kids, and.....uh......something to do with the radio play they get. ;)

Unfortunately, the term stopped having any meaning when people started associating a particular "sound", and style of dress, to indie rock/music. That's when you know that the term "indie rock/music" is now just a convenient way to label an overall style.

Since the term "indie" does carry certain connotations in terms of style and sound, then it's probably true that Indie Rock sounds similar in many ways, just like mainstream rock sounds similar in many ways. They sound different from each other, though.

charlesbronsen
Apr 9, 2009, 12:43 PM
Musically speaking, they're not. What's the real difference between Blink 182, Coldplay, and Kings of Convenience? Not as much as you'd think, and yet someone said Blink 182 is/was original.


That is just 3 well known bands brought up in 15 posts on a Mac forum. There is lots of creative original music being made today. Not just by Buck 65 either:rolleyes:

Abstract
Apr 9, 2009, 01:07 PM
Well I only mentioned those ones because they're really well known, as you said. ;)

I'd throw Animal Collective into the list as well, which is a band you mentioned. It's also what I'm currently listening to right now (specifically, the song "Bluish"). Doesn't make them bad, and it doesn't mean you can't get really great songs, but exactly what is original about them from a musical aspect, or even a style aspect? Like Lizkat said, there's really a limited range of chords and melodies that all bands use, and Animal Collective isn't doing anything here that's musically original. But again, it depends on what you're calling "original".

Animal Collective is good. Love the new album, just like I enjoyed Sung Tongs, Strawberry Jam, etc. ;) All of this is pop music anyway, and that sort of the point of pop music........ simplification, repetition within songs, etc. If it wasn't for the rise of pop, we'd all be listening to whatever iJohnHenry still listens to. :p

charlesbronsen
Apr 9, 2009, 01:23 PM
But again, it depends on what you're calling "original".

I have to agree with you, it does all boil down to perspective.

adameels
Apr 9, 2009, 01:42 PM
Or how about Coldplay taking the melody for this Kraftwerk song? (though it was legal in this case)

Kraftwerk vs. Coldplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0rYO1GDyis&feature=related)



Musicians sample other tracks all the time. But Kraftwerk an electro-house group? Speaking of, some say Daft Punk is a copy of Kraftwerk, but Daft Punk stuff sounds pretty original to me.

Fake Hipster
Apr 9, 2009, 02:32 PM
Actually, I agree with him. Indie rock can sound very alike. "Indie rock" used to refer to rock bands that were signed to independent record labels. By that definition, even the Jonas Brothers could technically become indie rock if Subpop had a temporary mental breakdown and told them "Ah, why the **** not. I'll sign ya to a contract. Besides, their mum is hot." Signing to an independent label should not be an indication of the style of music to expect from them. But that's really not the case. To most people, it just doesn't "sound" like indie rock, their fans don't dress like indie kids, and.....uh......something to do with the radio play they get. ;)

Unfortunately, the term stopped having any meaning when people started associating a particular "sound", and style of dress, to indie rock/music. That's when you know that the term "indie rock/music" is now just a convenient way to label an overall style.

Since the term "indie" does carry certain connotations in terms of style and sound, then it's probably true that Indie Rock sounds similar in many ways, just like mainstream rock sounds similar in many ways. They sound different from each other, though.

Yes...but...you didnt answer the question. I agree that its an amorphous term, which is why I wanted some specific bands to see what he meant.

Shotglass
Apr 9, 2009, 07:43 PM
My brother gave me two CDs, one was Editors and the other Interpol. A week later, I still couldn't tell the difference between the two bands.
When I say indie rock, I'm not suggesting it's a genre, but around here, everyone does. Think slightly distorted guitars, wild drums and squeaky vocals. And British accents, don't forget those.

synth3tik
Apr 9, 2009, 07:55 PM
I'll probably get flamed for this, but: Velvet Revolver. No matter how many times I try to listen to them, they just sound like the same recycled rock music that's been a mainstay since the late 80s.

Yes, all the pop stuff. Whatever that crap is that my wife has playing in the car...


You hear recycled 80's rock music, because that is really all it is. I am sure RV was more of a PR promotion then some buddies getting together to make music. The money was in everyone's mind from the start. I do feel your pain though, I tried to listen and I really tried to like it, just could not do it.

Much like the latest Atmosphere CD. I really tried listening, and really tried liking it, but the more an more I listen the more and more I got upset by the crappy Kanye West sound they were going for. Trying to separate them from all the rest by doing a bad job at ripping off the west coast. damn it, now I'm mad again.

j26
Apr 9, 2009, 07:58 PM
I definitely agree with U2. Their early stuff, to me, was very original and unlike other bands. However, since Joshua Tree, it appears to me that they have tried to sound like roots style American bands.

I don't know if U2 wanted to sound like a retro American rock band, or just wanted to try and get as far away from their old stuff as possible.

Totally agree - U2 haven't produced anything worthwhile since 1986.

zelmo
Apr 9, 2009, 08:01 PM
Isn't most every band derivative these days? As soon as one artist steps outside the norm and a record exec takes notice, up crop another 100 bands that emulate the 'hot new sound.' As soon as we get the old record business machine out of the way and give music revenue back to the srtists, maybe we'll see artists resist the labels and make what they love more, and make what they think will sell, less.

zap2
Apr 9, 2009, 08:08 PM
Coldplay and Oasis both have a formulaic sound to them – you hear one song, you have a good idea what the next will sound like.



I'd suggest listening to Viva La Vida again if you have not yet...and comparing it to their older stuff...very different

TuffLuffJimmy
Apr 9, 2009, 08:12 PM
Thank you. Let's also not forget the early days of Green Day. That was bad stuff. They have since redeemed themselves.

Oh god- and The Offspring. UGH!

I never liked Green Day, having said that I absolutely hate their new stuff. Their old stuff wasn't bad, but it wasn't anything special.

Off the top of my head I'd say the most unoriginal are:

Cold Play
Blink 182
Green Day
50 Cent (as far as rap goes, I like to keep it with Snoop, Dre and Eminem)
HelloGoodbye
Kanye West (blech)
Metro Station


My list of original bands is as follows:

Animal Collective
Blonde Redhead
Crystal Castles
Explosions in the Sky
The Faint
Marigold
My Bloody Valentine
The Presets
Pretty Girls Make Graves
Prince
Röyksopp
The Unicorns

ViciousShadow21
Apr 9, 2009, 09:00 PM
i would have to say that Béla Fleck & The Flecktones are probably one of the most original bands i have ever heard. the talent in that band is just incredible. Béla is probably the only banjo player i can listen to for any extended period of time (sorry all you banjo enthusiasts). Have any of you ever heard of Morphine? they are pretty original and very very good. And the Swedish band Urban Turban is another great and very original group.

U2 stopped being good for me as soon as Bono said Uno, Dos, Tres, Catorce. that just pissed me off to no end for some reason.

michael.lauden
Apr 9, 2009, 09:05 PM
if you hear a band on the radio, they are unoriginal.

every 'rock' station plays the same songs over and over. with the back of the throat creed style vocals that i absolutely hate.

every pop station plays breath-ey girl vocalists talking about something good

every rap station plays through a talk box + talks about how they lvoe some girl's body.

when i think of unoriginal, i think of mainstream

Malfoy
Apr 9, 2009, 09:24 PM
if you hear a band on the radio, they are unoriginal.

every 'rock' station plays the same songs over and over. with the back of the throat creed style vocals that i absolutely hate.

every pop station plays breath-ey girl vocalists talking about something good

every rap station plays through a talk box + talks about how they lvoe some girl's body.

when i think of unoriginal, i think of mainstream

are you the type of person who stops listening to a band if everyone else starts listening to them?

Abstract
Apr 9, 2009, 09:26 PM
My brother gave me two CDs, one was Editors and the other Interpol. A week later, I still couldn't tell the difference between the two bands.
When I say indie rock, I'm not suggesting it's a genre, but around here, everyone does. Think slightly distorted guitars, wild drums and squeaky vocals. And British accents, don't forget those.

Yes I did. From how I interpret the statement, which is musically speaking, then nothing out there today, last decade, the decade before that, or even the decade before [i]that[i], was original.

TuffLuffJimmy
Apr 9, 2009, 09:37 PM
Oh!
and of course Angels and Airwaves. They are easily one of the worst and most unoriginal bands that I have ever had the displeasure of listening to.

jbernie
Apr 9, 2009, 09:53 PM
I came to see how long it would take to mention U2. About as quick as any related topic on Fark I guess.

I would agree but to me U2 lost it when after Zooropa. Everything since has been drifting farther and farther from the sound that made them what they were. I miss the old U2 from the very early stuff. I still have my Red Rocks ticket stub from 1983 by the way.

Then again, with the changes in Ireland U2 did lose some of the inspiration for their earlier work though that seems to be conveniently forgotton.

mscriv
Apr 16, 2009, 01:03 AM
Uh.... Cover bands... super unoriginal or maybe it's just me... ;)

theITGuy
Apr 16, 2009, 03:27 PM
like others have said...Nickelback...

J.

fizz141
Apr 16, 2009, 03:59 PM
girls aloud??

i dont know anymore
:apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple:

twistedlegato
Apr 16, 2009, 04:08 PM
the jonas brothers

I actually feel they are quite original.

No band has ever made such trash before them, it's pretty original :p

Wookie1
Jun 1, 2010, 09:09 AM
I don't know any un-original bands, but Muse would have to be the most original I've come across.

that is ********. Muse totally ripped off Radiohead. get your facts right mate.

Wookie1
Jun 1, 2010, 09:14 AM
Radiohead are totally original. nobody ever sounded like them before because nobody had the balls to experiment with music like they do. There are countless bands to date that keep trying to be as good as Radiohead but nobody has suceeded.

yg17
Jun 1, 2010, 09:18 AM
that is ********. Muse totally ripped off Radiohead. get your facts right mate.

1. Muse sounds nothing like Radiohead
2. You brought up a year old thread for this?

leekohler
Jun 1, 2010, 10:15 AM
The majority of post 2000 indie bands (especially indie bands from 2005-7), they all have the same sound, it's infuriating, a genre generally has a broad range of sounds and sub genres where necessary, but there's several bands that could all switch places, and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference... I would post names but I really didn't pay attention to them when I heard their songs.

Of note, I don't hate indie bands, I used to be a massive indie fan, but then there was a massive influx of bands that where very much identical and I got fed up of the genre.

Yes, with the exception of Grizzly Bear. Their last one was incredible.

Radiohead are totally original. nobody ever sounded like them before because nobody had the balls to experiment with music like they do. There are countless bands to date that keep trying to be as good as Radiohead but nobody has suceeded.

Oh please. You don't know much about music. Lots of people have been there before. Radiohead was just the first band to make it popular.

Schtumple
Jun 1, 2010, 11:01 AM
1. Muse sounds nothing like Radiohead
2. You brought up a year old thread for this?

If anything, Muse are attempting to be like Queen. But before (in their first few albums), I know no other bands that had their style.

samalexhall
Jun 1, 2010, 11:08 AM
evrything by Pendulum sounds the same
its all mindless crap

roadbloc
Jun 1, 2010, 11:21 AM
Trivium (Metallica)
Green Day (Bad Religion)
Pendulum (The Prodigy)
Muse (Queen)
Billy Talent (Arctic Monkeys)
McFly (Busted)