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iGav
Apr 21, 2004, 07:10 AM
OMG! :eek:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3643183.stm

MongoTheGeek
Apr 21, 2004, 07:17 AM
OMG! :eek:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3643183.stm

There are 3 types of people who would be interested in this.

1) People who are looking for a child to take care of, who are good intentioned well meaning people.

2) Sicko's, preverts etc.

3) People buying a playmate for their children (see The Toy with Richard Pryor)

My big thought is that the crackheads have stumbled into the 21st century.

question fear
Apr 21, 2004, 09:13 AM
what worse: that they posted it or even before it was shut down the bidding was up to 30 euros???

MongoTheGeek
Apr 21, 2004, 09:16 AM
what worse: that they posted it or even before it was shut down the bidding was up to 30 euros???

Are you saying the bid was too high or too low?

Dippo
Apr 21, 2004, 09:36 AM
Are you saying the bid was too high or too low?


That people would bid at all is crazy.
Only child molesters would want to "buy" a kid to "play" with them!

question fear
Apr 21, 2004, 09:42 AM
That people would bid at all is crazy.
Only child molesters would want to "buy" a kid to "play" with them!

exactly.
i was implying it was just as bad if not worse that people wanted to bid on a child to play with. esp. b/c that auction probably wasnt up for terribly long.

MongoTheGeek
Apr 21, 2004, 10:01 AM
That people would bid at all is crazy.
Only child molesters would want to "buy" a kid to "play" with them!

There are a lot of people who buy things other than for their suggested uses. I buy Q-Tips to stick them into the ear canal and remove earwax from there (where is says explicitly not to)

Some of the bids may have been to get the child into a safe situation.

Nny
Apr 21, 2004, 10:01 AM
How much were they asking for shipping? Do they ship to the U.S.?

By the way... I'M KIDDING!

Nny
Apr 21, 2004, 10:03 AM
There are a lot of people who buy things other than for their suggested uses. I buy Q-Tips to stick them into the ear canal and remove earwax from there (where is says explicitly not to)

Really? I thought that was the only use for Q-Tips. I guess I never read the box.

claytonbench
Apr 21, 2004, 10:36 AM
Even if you just bid as a joke. You have just opened up the next few months at least to the police and even rumors being started of you being a child molestor. So if it was a joke bid, this will be one of the biggest bad jokes of their life.

question fear
Apr 21, 2004, 10:46 AM
There are a lot of people who buy things other than for their suggested uses. I buy Q-Tips to stick them into the ear canal and remove earwax from there (where is says explicitly not to)

Some of the bids may have been to get the child into a safe situation.

yea but if i had seen this auction i would have alerted ebay to call child services, not purchased the child.
its a nice thought that someone wanted to protect the child, but as someone else mentioned, i would think twice before bidding on a child on ebay, if only for the investigation this would cause...

PickledSquirrel
Apr 21, 2004, 10:53 AM
once again, not only does reality beat fiction. It wraps fiction in chickenwire with heavy weights on it, and chucks it into the harbour on a silent night.

question fear
Apr 21, 2004, 10:57 AM
once again, not only does reality beat fiction. It wraps fiction in chickenwire with heavy weights on it, and chucks it into the harbour on a silent night.

best metaphor ever!

Sun Baked
Apr 21, 2004, 02:00 PM
That people would bid at all is crazy.
Only child molesters would want to "buy" a kid to "play" with them!Hey Michael Jackson did it all the time. http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11013&stc=1

wdlove
Apr 21, 2004, 02:07 PM
Will have to wait until the police have completed their investigation. If this was a joke or not, the child should be removed from the home. They have demonstrated the their decision making process is faulty. The safety of the child should come first. :(

virividox
Apr 21, 2004, 04:50 PM
this is worse than the person who auctioned their virginity

Ajmbc
Apr 21, 2004, 05:41 PM
Leave it to BBC. :rolleyes:

this is worse than the person who auctioned their virginity

I totally agree. Who could do that to their child?

aj

rainman::|:|
Apr 21, 2004, 05:49 PM
I really doubt this is anything more than a very bizarre joke.

paul

Sparky's
Apr 21, 2004, 09:37 PM
Had to be a joke, if the police really wanted to catch these people they would have played along and just outbid everyone else, then traced it back to the person.

crenz
Apr 22, 2004, 07:19 AM
FYI, German news reported some additional detail. The kids were living with their mother and her current boyfriend. The investigation is still going on (they are also investigating against the bidders, so don't joke-bid on such offers), but authorities already placed the kids in the custody of the father. Seems once they were asked (in the absence of their mother!) where they want to stay, the kids were quite clear about wanting to be with their father.

Danrose1977
Apr 22, 2004, 07:49 AM
The first thing I thought of was that it would be a pretty effective threat....

"If you don't eat all your dinner, I'm going to put you on ebay!"
"If you don't go to bed this instant, I'm going to put you on ebay!"
If you don't do what your father tells you, I'm going to put you on ebay!"

Perhaps the child called the mothers bluff!

coolsoldier
Apr 22, 2004, 12:40 PM
I think people just like to "push" ebay to see how far they can take it. I can't believe that anybody would think they could get away with auctioning off a child...

As for the people who bid, there's the investigation, but for what crime? Since the auction was pulled, no illegal transaction took place. The law can't claim to know what they "intended" to do. Now, if the auction had actually been completed and somebody "bought" the girl, then I could see going after the buyer, but in this case, there was no buyer because the auction never closed.

Of course, the parents, who did unquestionably attempt to sell a child, should have their children taken away and the father given a forced-vasectomy to make sure they never have children again, but that might also be beyond the scope of the law.

question fear
Apr 22, 2004, 04:27 PM
I think people just like to "push" ebay to see how far they can take it. I can't believe that anybody would think they could get away with auctioning off a child...

As for the people who bid, there's the investigation, but for what crime? Since the auction was pulled, no illegal transaction took place. The law can't claim to know what they "intended" to do. Now, if the auction had actually been completed and somebody "bought" the girl, then I could see going after the buyer, but in this case, there was no buyer because the auction never closed.

Of course, the parents, who did unquestionably attempt to sell a child, should have their children taken away and the father given a forced-vasectomy to make sure they never have children again, but that might also be beyond the scope of the law.


my guess is a background check and some unofficial investigating...while they didnt do anything wrong, its certainly suspicious. and what if it escalates?

now, is this right? no. i think its scary that the police watch what we do online.

on the other hand, how is investigating people who bid any different then undercover cops posing as kids in chatrooms?

hob
Apr 22, 2004, 05:10 PM
Hey Michael Jackson did it all the time. http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11013&stc=1

On a slightly unrelated topic...


Posh got back at Becks by saying that she slept with Michael Jackson...

Jackson denied these claims saying he was "in brooklyn" at the time

Laugh with me now my british friends!! :D

crenz
Apr 23, 2004, 04:41 AM
i think its scary that the police watch what we do online.

Well, the police so far rely on people reporting illegal auctions, they don't monitor eBay (at least in Germany).

Let's not forget that the bidders have entered a legally binding contract to buy an eight year old girl. This is something the police should look into.

question fear
Apr 23, 2004, 10:52 AM
Well, the police so far rely on people reporting illegal auctions, they don't monitor eBay (at least in Germany).

Let's not forget that the bidders have entered a legally binding contract to buy an eight year old girl. This is something the police should look into.

yea, i wasn't saying they weren't within their legal rights to do it; i was extrapolating to where the next step was.
maybe they are reading this forum right now. g'day officer.