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Apple TV or Mac Mini?

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alansmallen

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Hey guys. I'm wondering whether I should get an Apple TV or a Mac Mini. I'm looking for an 100% independent box that can download shows or movies from iTunes or other sources. Either way, I'll have Boxee or Plex running on the machine. I want to have shows downloaded using TED or watched from Hulu on the box without using another computer. With the Mini, this would be easy. I haven't figured it out with the ATV.

Any suggestions?

Alan
 
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michael.lauden

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yeah use the search.

you can run Boxee on the ATV and subscribe to your Hulu feeds on there too.

same thing with the mini.
 
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alansmallen

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michael.lauden said:
yeah use the search.

you can run Boxee on the ATV and subscribe to your Hulu feeds on there too.

same thing with the mini.
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I searched but I couldn't find anything. Sorry


Can I get Boxee to automatically download videos from torrents? Such as Revision 3, etc?
 
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spice weasel

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alansmallen said:
... without using another computer. With the Mini, this would be easy. I haven't figured it out with the ATV.
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I think you answered your own question. The ATV is a great device, but it is obviously more limited than the Mac mini. It's also cheaper. If you want a full-fledged HTPC, then go with the mini.
 
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alansmallen

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spice weasel said:
I think you answered your own question. The ATV is a great device, but it is obviously more limited than the Mac mini. It's also cheaper. If you want a full-fledged HTPC, then go with the mini.
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What won't I be getting from the ATV?
 
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michael.lauden

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i would seriously recommend the mini over the ATV any day. the ATV can only play (right now, to my knowledge) 720p.

and with that 200$ price difference... well you could actually have a computer and have something that can be easily upgraded. on the software side.... you can install anything.



the mac mini can do everything the ATV can and more. you can find many threads on MR about people who switched from the ATV to a mini.
 
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spice weasel

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alansmallen said:
Not with Boxee.

I just really can't justify the 200+ dollar price difference.
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Well, you need to decide what you really want. You said you wanted a device you could use without having another computer on. Depending on how large your media library is, that might exclude the ATV. Even the 160 gig model gets cramped pretty quickly when you fill it up with movies and TV shows.

I have an ATV and love it. Others have minis and love them. Think about what your use will be and then go from there.
 
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alansmallen

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Tilpots said:
How are you going to set Boxee up without another computer?:rolleyes:
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I'm talking about on a day to day use not having another computer

spice weasel said:
Well, you need to decide what you really want. You said you wanted a device you could use without having another computer on. Depending on how large your media library is, that might exclude the ATV. Even the 160 gig model gets cramped pretty quickly when you fill it up with movies and TV shows.

I have an ATV and love it. Others have minis and love them. Think about what your use will be and then go from there.
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I'd be downloading the video and then deleting it. I just can't justify the $200 price difference.

I'm actually kind of mad now because I was originally gonna go for the Mini, which microcenter had new 2.0 for $400. Then I started thinking about the ATV, and now the Microcenter deal is over.
 
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Mini all the way now.

AppleTV is too limited, specially because does not play 1080p and the storage is too small.
Mini you can use Plex which is great and you can hook up external drives and expand your library as you wish.
I am about to buy a Mini. AppleTV needs a hardware version 2.0 for me to consider it if they address the issues above. Until then the Mini rules.
 
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alansmallen

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gugy said:
Mini all the way now.

AppleTV is too limited, specially because does not play 1080p and the storage is too small.
Mini you can use Plex which is great and you can hook up external drives and expand your library as you wish.
I am about to buy a Mini. AppleTV needs a hardware version 2.0 for me to consider it if they address the issues above. Until then the Mini rules.
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Mini it is....for now. Well, until someone attempts to change my mind.
 
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mac88

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I run a modified Apple TV. I like what it does and what I use it for (Movies, etc.). I would love to ultimately switch that out for a Mini just because of the more options.
 
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alansmallen

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Essentially:

Apple TV
Small and light
One cable straight to computer
Easy interface

Mac Mini
Full operating system
All features of Apple TV
Plex
1080p support
 
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michael.lauden

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yeah.

also you can't really call the Mac Mini large and heavy.


and it's not to say the Mini doesn't have an easy interface.

it has front row - which can be controlled with the EXACT same remote as the ATV, and it can use Boxee (which kills plex IMO), Plex and any other program you so choose.


not to mention it has one of the most intuitive, streamlined operating systems known to man OS X 10.5 Leopard, and soon to be even more streamlined and light weight, Snow Leopard.

so i think right now the only feature the ATV has is the 1 cable mumbo jumbo.


:D

if you couldn't tell... i'm rooting for the mini :)
 
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alansmallen

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michael.lauden said:
yeah.

also you can't really call the Mac Mini large and heavy.


and it's not to say the Mini doesn't have an easy interface.

it has front row - which can be controlled with the EXACT same remote as the ATV, and it can use Boxee (which kills plex IMO), Plex and any other program you so choose.


not to mention it has one of the most intuitive, streamlined operating systems known to man OS X 10.5 Leopard, and soon to be even more streamlined and light weight, Snow Leopard.

so i think right now the only feature the ATV has is the 1 cable mumbo jumbo.


:D

if you couldn't tell... i'm rooting for the mini :)
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But the Apple TV has the edge when it comes to price.
 
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mac88

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If price is the thing then go for the Apple TV. As a whole, the Mini is the way to go. I know it's more money, but you get what you pay for (more options).
 
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kage207

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The real nice thing I like about ATV, is the Wishlist factor, Boxee (yes you can have this on the Mini too), and you can see top sales and top rentals. Iunno, I just like ATV interface.
 
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alansmallen

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kage207 said:
The real nice thing I like about ATV, is the Wishlist factor, Boxee (yes you can have this on the Mini too), and you can see top sales and top rentals. Iunno, I just like ATV interface.
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Between Boxee, Flex, Front Row, and iTunes I get everything you listed.
 
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TuckBodi

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Interesting topic. I've had an ATV since almost day 1 and a Mac mini as my media server just as long. A long time ago I tried out Plex but backed off when Sapphire and ATVFiles became available through Frontrow to play my SD content. With more HD content available now I decided to play around with my mini & the latest Plex in my front room setup. My findings:

Mac mini (i.83GHz, 4gb RAM) -
- Plex has really matured and they've done a lot of nice additional things to the XBMC codebase (I've been a longtime user of XBMC)
- But.....just today I probably had it lock up on me at least half a dozen times. Seems very buggy. I never see XBMC lock up on my ATV.
- With the Mac mini I had major issues trying to get the DVI/HDMI working. First it was an overscan issue, then letterboxing, until finally no signal. Not sure if this is a mini issue or my Sammy. Bailed on HDMI and went the VGA route.
- I've also been having all kinds of audio quirkiness. First AC3 was working, then it stopped for awhile and then it worked again. And right now all my system sounds are shut off whereas they worked this morning.
- Played 720 stuff no problem but it seemed to be dropping frames on the one 1080 file I have. Need to investigate profile, etc.
- Plex has fixed AC3 passthrough while on XBMC it's a no-go.
- Plex choked & died on Aeon Stark, which if it worked would have sealed the deal for me, while XBMC played it great but the lack of AC3 was still a deal-breaker (hopefully the Plex guys will get the kinks worked out of Stark)

AppleTV -
- Cannot get AC3 passthrough in XBMC on here either (known issue) through my receiver although I can get it through Sapphire.
- Only can get up to 720 (Apple m4v format) and while my library is 99% SD content I know HD is the future.
- The new XBMC skins (i.e. Stark) run very sluggish but there are lite versions which make it okay (still not as fast as the mini).
- Single remote control with a single interface to deal with (mini you have to use a keybord/mouse initially and then jump over to the remote (for some skins)).

Summary, if money is not an issue then I'd probably go the mini route but know that it's not without it's hiccups.
 
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