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Desertrat
Apr 21, 2004, 08:21 AM
Chuck Butler of www.everbank.com said in his newsletter that Blair has called for a referendum on joining into eurocurrencyland. Butler further sez that a resounding "No!" vote would hurt Blair's chances of re-election.
Do you concur with this conclusion?
'Rat
toontra
Apr 21, 2004, 10:10 AM
Chuck Butler of www.everbank.com said in his newsletter that Blair has called for a referendum on joining into eurocurrencyland. Butler further sez that a resounding "No!" vote would hurt Blair's chances of re-election.
Do you concur with this conclusion?
'Rat
The referendum is to be held after the next election to avoid that very outcome. Blair may be deceitful but he's not stupid!
amnesiac1984
Apr 21, 2004, 11:03 AM
The referendum is to be held after the next election to avoid that very outcome. Blair may be deceitful but he's not stupid!
I thought we were having a referendum about the European constitution.
toontra
Apr 21, 2004, 11:14 AM
I thought we were having a referendum about the European constitution.
I presumed that's what 'Rat was referring to - unless there are more referenda on the way!
amnesiac1984
Apr 21, 2004, 11:52 AM
I presumed that's what 'Rat was referring to - unless there are more referenda on the way!
yeah, i got the impression that 'rat meant joining the euro ("eurocurrencyland").
btw toontra, I did a quick search and found a UK forum that seemed interesting so that I could maybe discuss some politics more relevant to us, and thus learn something about our own system instead of worrying about the US all the time. However what I discovered was shocking.
click here for a thread (http://www.ukresident.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=142&st=0)
toontra
Apr 21, 2004, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the link - looks interesting ;)
skunk
Apr 21, 2004, 02:49 PM
yeah, i got the impression that 'rat meant joining the euro ("eurocurrencyland").
btw toontra, I did a quick search and found a UK forum that seemed interesting so that I could maybe discuss some politics more relevant to us, and thus learn something about our own system instead of worrying about the US all the time. However what I discovered was shocking.
click here for a thread (http://www.ukresident.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=142&st=0)
I think I prefer it here after all!
skunk
Apr 21, 2004, 02:55 PM
Chuck Butler of www.everbank.com said in his newsletter that Blair has called for a referendum on joining into eurocurrencyland. Butler further sez that a resounding "No!" vote would hurt Blair's chances of re-election.
Do you concur with this conclusion?
'Rat
'Rat, to be clear, this is a referendum on a new Constitution for the enlarged EU. To be frank, nobody here knows the first thing about what is proposed, as the debate is dominated by obfuscation and spin to the exclusion of any facts. As others have pointed out, Bliar has ensured by this tactic that the Conservatives can no longer point to their own support for a referendum being a reason to vote for them, while the actual vote, if any, will be postponed until safely after the election, after parliament has had its own debate. Quite neat footwork, really.
amnesiac1984
Apr 21, 2004, 04:50 PM
I think I prefer it here after all!
check it again, its really funny, There is some twisted stuff on there, the guy is fighting back! And I named myself "ashamedtobebritish" in homage to him.
Desertrat
Apr 21, 2004, 05:10 PM
Thanks, guys.
One thing I strongly believe: If there's lots of obfuscation from the politicos in favor, the proposal is bad. The converse is not necessarily true...:)
'Rat
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