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Apr 17, 2009, 04:34 PM
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Rogue Amoeba (http://www.rogueamoeba.com/) is well-known in the Mac community for Airfoil (http://www.rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/), the $25 Mac and PC application that allows any audio to be streamed from a host computer to an AirPort Express or Apple TV. The original concept was expanded by the addition of free Airfoil Speakers applications for Mac, Windows, and Linux, allowing other computers to be recipients of audio streamed from the primary computer.

Rogue Amoeba has taken things one step further with the release of Airfoil Speakers Touch [App Store (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=311357351&mt=8), Free], which allows audio to be streamed from a host computer directly to an iPhone or iPod touch. While Airfoil Speakers Touch is a free application, it does still of course require the full version of Airfoil running on the host computer in order to function.

With Airfoil Speakers Touch, you can send any audio from your Mac or PC, straight to your iPhone or iPod Touch! Just connect your device to your local Wifi network, then open up Airfoil on your Mac or Windows machine, and start transmitting. You'll be able to send audio from iTunes, RealPlayer, and even web-based sources like Pandora and Last.fm. Now, if your Mac or Windows machine can play it, you can hear it on your iPhone or iPod Touch!

Article Link: 'Airfoil Speakers Touch' Now Available in App Store (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/04/17/airfoil-speakers-touch-now-available-in-app-store/)



michael.lauden
Apr 17, 2009, 04:49 PM
it'd probably be cooler the other way around - iPhone/iPod transmitting via airfoil to the router.

ziggyonice
Apr 17, 2009, 04:51 PM
There are so many uses for this, it's unimaginable. I've been waiting for this day since the App Store opened.

michael.lauden
Apr 17, 2009, 04:53 PM
There are so many uses for this, it's unimaginable. I've been waiting for this day since the App Store opened.

really? like what? besides listening to a movie quietly in the living room while your spouse is sleeping - i can't think of another use... there are pandora apps and such...

todd2000
Apr 17, 2009, 04:59 PM
Well I'll be using it to listen to Sirius on my iPod Touch until they get off their butt and release an official app.

fabian9
Apr 17, 2009, 05:16 PM
Doesn't work for me

tmornini
Apr 17, 2009, 05:20 PM
it'd probably be cooler the other way around - iPhone/iPod transmitting via airfoil to the router.

Agreed!

It blows my mind that the iPhone and iPod Touch cannot pipe sound to an Airport Express...

BrianMojo
Apr 17, 2009, 05:45 PM
Agreed!

It blows my mind that the iPhone and iPod Touch cannot pipe sound to an Airport Express...

3rded!

libertyforall
Apr 17, 2009, 05:52 PM
Agreed again!


Agreed!

It blows my mind that the iPhone and iPod Touch cannot pipe sound to an Airport Express...

lukecro
Apr 17, 2009, 05:53 PM
This is awesome. It basically turns our iPod Touch or iPhone into an airport express -- at least, as far as audio-streaming goes.

Now I can plug my Touch into my living room stereo system and pipe in music from the iMac in my office (which has 20,000+ songs, instead of the paltry selection of 4 GBs my Touch has). Great for parties -- keep the computer away from the drinks, but the music piping into the room.

I actually bought my Airport Express specifically for this type of thing. And I was thinking about buying a second one, so I didn't have to keep moving the Express around the house depending on where I wanted to stream music too. So the Airfoil iPhone App is going to save me some $$.

It also allows you, theoretically, to turn any set of headphones into a semi-wireless system -- something that even an Airport Express can't help with. e.g., I could plug headphones into my iPod Touch, and then walk around the house or lie in bed or whatever -- while listening to audio streaming from my iMac, which could include streaming radio, live TV shows via Eye TV, movies playing in VLC, etc . . . A great solution for when you don't want to disturb other people in the house. And, really, if you've looked at wireless headset solutions -- whether they broadcast from your computer over wifi, radio frequencies, or blue tooth -- they tend to be clunky affairs. This Airfoil-to-iPhone audio solution is much more elegant.

One problem I'm anticipating: Since we can't run background apps on non-jailbroken iPhones/Touches, then I'm guessing that this means we won't be able to run the Airfoil Speakers app at the same time as the iTunes Remote app or the VLC Remote app. This is a real shame, since having full Remote control capabilities would make Airfoil Speakers much more convenient for multi-room audio-streaming usage.

Anyway, I haven't actually tried it out yet. Will be interesting to see how well it works, and if Airfoil is able to keep the audio in sync with any video that might be playing on the computer -- it usually works great with the Draft-N Airport Express, but I wonder if my 1st generation Touch has enough enough power to handle it. The Touches and iPhones are all Draft-G, right? So that could create more lag time and glitches in the streaming?

Regardless -- well worth a try, since it's a free App and I already own a copy of Airfoil. :apple:

macdim
Apr 17, 2009, 06:08 PM
Anyway, I haven't actually tried it out yet. Will be interesting to see how well it works, and if Airfoil is able to keep the audio in sync with any video that might be playing on the computer -- it usually works great with the Draft-N Airport Express, but I wonder if my 1st generation Touch has enough enough power to handle it. The Touches and iPhones are all Draft-G, right? So that could create more lag time and glitches in the streaming?:

I'm not sure, but yesterday I was streaming a 720p mkv file from my MacBook to my PS3, including AC3 audio and I didn't get one stutter on wireless G. Audio should be fine. It really depends how much traffic the network is seeing at any given time.

MattG
Apr 17, 2009, 08:24 PM
3rded!

4thed...or 5thed :P

I've been hoping for that capability forever...my guess is it has to do with battery life.

bizzaregood
Apr 17, 2009, 08:45 PM
Well maybe they can talk to the VLC people and start added controls from there. and even maybe some app like Air mouse for those who have computers connected to their big screens.


This is awesome. It basically turns our iPod Touch or iPhone into an airport express -- at least, as far as audio-streaming goes.

Now I can plug my Touch into my living room stereo system and pipe in music from the iMac in my office (which has 20,000+ songs, instead of the paltry selection of 4 GBs my Touch has). Great for parties -- keep the computer away from the drinks, but the music piping into the room.

I actually bought my Airport Express specifically for this type of thing. And I was thinking about buying a second one, so I didn't have to keep moving the Express around the house depending on where I wanted to stream music too. So the Airfoil iPhone App is going to save me some $$.

It also allows you, theoretically, to turn any set of headphones into a semi-wireless system -- something that even an Airport Express can't help with. e.g., I could plug headphones into my iPod Touch, and then walk around the house or lie in bed or whatever -- while listening to audio streaming from my iMac, which could include streaming radio, live TV shows via Eye TV, movies playing in VLC, etc . . . A great solution for when you don't want to disturb other people in the house. And, really, if you've looked at wireless headset solutions -- whether they broadcast from your computer over wifi, radio frequencies, or blue tooth -- they tend to be clunky affairs. This Airfoil-to-iPhone audio solution is much more elegant.

One problem I'm anticipating: Since we can't run background apps on non-jailbroken iPhones/Touches, then I'm guessing that this means we won't be able to run the Airfoil Speakers app at the same time as the iTunes Remote app or the VLC Remote app. This is a real shame, since having full Remote control capabilities would make Airfoil Speakers much more convenient for multi-room audio-streaming usage.

Anyway, I haven't actually tried it out yet. Will be interesting to see how well it works, and if Airfoil is able to keep the audio in sync with any video that might be playing on the computer -- it usually works great with the Draft-N Airport Express, but I wonder if my 1st generation Touch has enough enough power to handle it. The Touches and iPhones are all Draft-G, right? So that could create more lag time and glitches in the streaming?

Regardless -- well worth a try, since it's a free App and I already own a copy of Airfoil. :apple:

str1f3
Apr 17, 2009, 10:12 PM
Agreed!

It blows my mind that the iPhone and iPod Touch cannot pipe sound to an Airport Express...

it's probably because os 2.0 does not allow access to the ipod portion of the iphone. you'll have to wait until 3.0 comes out which will have the access. i'm sure apple will tout that you can stream your iphone to an airport express with speakers attached.

diamond3
Apr 17, 2009, 11:25 PM
Anyone care to explain the advantage of Airfoil over the simplify media app? I use simplify media which runs on my computer and ipod. While i am up on campus where there is free wifi, i'm able to stream all my music located on my iTunes at home and play it on my ipod. I can browse by artist, genre, song, album, playlist, etc and listen to it.

Mastershredder
Apr 18, 2009, 12:03 AM
I'm not sure, but yesterday I was streaming a 720p mkv file from my MacBook to my PS3, including AC3 audio and I didn't get one stutter on wireless G. Audio should be fine. It really depends how much traffic the network is seeing at any given time.

Just curious, what are you using to stream an MKV to the PS3 via your Mac?

roland.g
Apr 18, 2009, 12:19 AM
This is great. I for one use Airfoil on my iMac to stream NHL and NFL games to my garage while I am working out there, allowing me to listen to games when I can't watch them. With this I have the option to Airfoil anything to my iPhone instead and be more portable with headphones. I can listen to a game or other audio indoors without broadcasting to my wife who could care less. Since this is free and I already have Airfoil, awesome!!

SHIVERINGGOAT
Apr 18, 2009, 01:38 AM
This is great news for me;

I can now listen to the same music in the bath as is playing throughout our house without having to run cables using a battery powered Bose soundock, Equally you can have music in a garden party without wires and the same music playing in the house.

I have kept my 1st Generation iPhone which is handy now this will make it even more useful - no need to shell out another £65 on a airport express.

I can now dress up in my Grandmother's clothes and hide in the garden shed whilst listening to the first Kraftwerk album without wires thanks to Rogue Amoeba.

:)

lozion
Apr 18, 2009, 09:15 AM
Great app!
I've been waiting for this for awhile...
I can now be outside on my terrasse working on my Macbook and stream itunes content to my iphone hooked to my home system which in turn is connected to external speakers on the terrasse!
Just like Remote but the other way around.

cplav
Apr 18, 2009, 11:15 AM
Couldn't you just use Simplify Media for free to do the same thing? I have been using it since it launched in the app store and it works great.

Am I missing something?

todd2000
Apr 18, 2009, 11:27 AM
Couldn't you just use Simplify Media for free to do the same thing? I have been using it since it launched in the app store and it works great.

Am I missing something?

Yes, this lets you stream ANY audio from your Mac to your iPod. Simplify Media is just for music. If all you want to do is stream your iTunes library then Simplify Media is probably your best option.

michael.lauden
Apr 18, 2009, 11:47 AM
it's probably because os 2.0 does not allow access to the ipod portion of the iphone. you'll have to wait until 3.0 comes out which will have the access. i'm sure apple will tout that you can stream your iphone to an airport express with speakers attached.

mmm not so sure about that. according to the SDK one application cannot modify another. this sounds like a plugin that would need to be added to the iPod application.

bizzaregood
Apr 18, 2009, 12:25 PM
mmm not so sure about that. according to the SDK one application cannot modify another. this sounds like a plugin that would need to be added to the iPod application.

3.0 can aces the ipod. They told (or showed?) us that a a game can use your own music to listen to, so it would be the same type of thing. Ill look into how to code it.

slapguts
Apr 18, 2009, 12:25 PM
Anyone care to explain the advantage of Airfoil over the simplify media app? I use simplify media which runs on my computer and ipod. While i am up on campus where there is free wifi, i'm able to stream all my music located on my iTunes at home and play it on my ipod. I can browse by artist, genre, song, album, playlist, etc and listen to it.


The ability to stream any audio, not just non-DRM'ed iTunes music. Simplify Media is no longer free, either.

samac92
Apr 18, 2009, 12:37 PM
Just curious, what are you using to stream an MKV to the PS3 via your Mac?

im guessing he used ps3 media server

http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/

:)

soundsgoodtome
Apr 18, 2009, 01:52 PM
Anyone care to explain the advantage of Airfoil over the simplify media app?

Simplify's just for iTunes. AirFoil's for any audio from any source on your Mac. Safari, for example, where you might be streaming audio from Sirius radio, etc.

Mastershredder
Apr 18, 2009, 03:30 PM
im guessing he used ps3 media server

http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/

:)

Hah thanks. I ended up finding that after I posted the question. Great app!

IEatApples
Apr 18, 2009, 03:45 PM
One problem I'm anticipating: Since we can't run background apps on non-jailbroken iPhones/Touches, then I'm guessing that this means we won't be able to run the Airfoil Speakers app at the same time as the iTunes Remote app or the VLC Remote app. This is a real shame, since having full Remote control capabilities would make Airfoil Speakers much more convenient for multi-room audio-streaming usage.

Just wondering: Why aren't more people using ROWMOTE (http://rowmote.com/Rowmote.html) instead of iTunes Remote, or VLC Remote? It's clearly far superior and it's also a great app launcher. :confused:

lukecro
Apr 18, 2009, 04:20 PM
Just wondering: Why aren't more people using ROWMOTE (http://rowmote.com/Rowmote.html) instead of iTunes Remote, or VLC Remote? It's clearly far superior and it's also a great app launcher. :confused:

Well, actually, now I feel a bit silly for paying 99 cents for VLC Remote. It's a good app, but the 99-cent Rowmote does indeed look like the superior app; I didn't realize it could control VLC, Eye TV, and Airfoil Video, etc., in addition to iTunes and Front Row. I'll have to give it a whirl!

(Question: Does Rowmote provide as much control over VLC and VLC Playlists as the VLC remote does? Regardless, it looks like I''ll want Rowmote for controlling Eye TV and Airfoil Video, but I'm wondering it'll also serve as a full replacement to VLC Remote, or if its VLC options are more limited.)

Still, even with Rowmote, I'd think that iTunes Remote (http://www.apple.com/itunes/remote/) is worth the download -- it's FREE and the interface is excellent, IMHO. It's no good for anything other than controlling iTunes, but as an iTunes controller it's great; more robust functionality than Rowmote in this specific area, from what I've seen so far (album covers, playlists, Genius, etc.). But I'll have to try out Rowmote some more before being sure. :cool:

IEatApples
Apr 18, 2009, 04:37 PM
Well, actually, now I feel a bit silly for paying 99 cents for VLC Remote. It's a good app, but the 99-cent Rowmote does indeed look like the superior app; I didn't realize it could control VLC, Eye TV, and Airfoil Video, etc., in addition to iTunes and Front Row. I'll have to give it a whirl!

(Question: Does Rowmote provide as much control over VLC and VLC Playlists as the VLC remote does? Regardless, it looks like I''ll want Rowmote for controlling Eye TV and Airfoil Video, but I'm wondering it'll also serve as a full replacement to VLC Remote, or if its VLC options are more limited.)

Still, even with Rowmote, I'd think that iTunes Remote (http://www.apple.com/itunes/remote/) is worth the download -- it's FREE and the interface is excellent, IMHO. It's no good for anything other than controlling iTunes, but as an iTunes controller it's great; more robust functionality than Rowmote in this specific area, from what I've seen so far (album covers, playlists, Genius, etc.). But I'll have to try out Rowmote some more before being sure. :cool:Well, I tried using Rowmote with VLC but it didn't really work…*I could control the sound level and I could choose previous & next, but the pause/play button didn't do much. :( (I believe/hope updates will fix this "soon").

I agree that iTunes Remote is good, and I'm using it as well. ;)

I actually have all these apps to make my "remote controlled environment" complete:

*Air Mouse - To control the mouse.

*iTunes Remote - control iTunes.

*Keynote Remote - control Keynote.

*Rowmote - To control & launch: Front Row, QuickTime (with Full Screen Toggle), iTunes, DVD Player, EyeTV, Keynote, PowerPoint, iPhoto, (VLC), Plex, Finder, etc… :);)

*Jaadu VNC - EVERYTHING! :D

bielen
Apr 18, 2009, 09:07 PM
I started using Airfoil Speakers for iPhone. It works great. I can finally listen to a local station with a weak signal in my area by streaming the content through their site.

lukecro
Apr 18, 2009, 11:14 PM
Well, I tried using Rowmote with VLC but it didn't really work…*I could control the sound level and I could choose previous & next, but the pause/play button didn't do much. :( (I believe/hope updates will fix this "soon").

I agree that iTunes Remote is good, and I'm using it as well. ;)

I actually have all these apps to make my "remote controlled environment" complete:

*Air Mouse - To control the mouse.

*iTunes Remote - control iTunes.

*Keynote Remote - control Keynote.

*Rowmote - To control & launch: Front Row, QuickTime (with Full Screen Toggle), iTunes, DVD Player, EyeTV, Keynote, PowerPoint, iPhoto, (VLC), Plex, Finder, etc… :);)

*Jaadu VNC - EVERYTHING! :D

Yeah, after using Rowmote for the last few hours, I've come to the same conclusion -- it's handy for launching the available apps and for some very basic playback/navigation functionality, but outside of it's core purpose (being a virtual replica of the real Apple Remote) it can be a bit buggy. e.g., when I tried to use it with VLC I was able to play and pause videos, but there was a lag -- and if I tried to do much else, Rowmote would do some very unexpected things, like jumping me through different desktop "Spaces" in OS X when I was just trying to fast-forward a video in VLC. Still, I like the direction they're taking the app -- it's just not as good as I'd hoped.

So, I'll continue to use VLC Remote and iTunes Remote -- but now I'll also keep Rowmote in the arsenal.

I hadn't seen Jaadu VNC before. Thank's for pointing that out. It looks amazing! I've been using the free Mocha VNC Lite, and it's good for the basics -- but it looks like Jaadu takes VNC to the next level. Advanced multi-gesture touchpad support and a VNC client rolled into one?! Sweet. $24.99 is steep, but I'm tempted to try it.

Re: Air Mouse. Do you prefer it to Snatch? I'd read that Snatch was a bit better than Air Mouse for touch-pad-like mouse control. (http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/11/12/app-app-air-mouse-snatch/) And I've been having fun with the free SnatchTest app and thinking about upgrading to the full version. Although, I was planning on using it more as a remote than as a mouse replacement (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=664593), so maybe Jaadu VNC is the better app for this as well.

But, oh, how I do digress. This thread is about the new Airfoil Speakers app for the iPhone/Touch. . . . Which I've been testing for the better part of the day. And let me say: It's awesome. Has worked perfectly so far -- syncs with videos, pipes music to every room in my house, etc . . . Haven't found a glitch so far. :D

The only drawback is, as I'd expected, the lack of built-in remote control within the Airfoil Speakers interface on the iPhone/Touch. Which wouldn't be a problem at all if we could run it as a background app, but as it is it's a little disappointing -- because once you load the app up, there's basically nothing else you can do with your iPhone without having your audio cut off...

It's a very cool trick that Airfoil turns your iPhone into an Airport Express-style streaming audio player; and it does this in an elegant way that takes very little time to set up and I'm using it happily as I type . . . But being able to run it as a background app and/or integrating some remote-control functionality would really make this app a lot cooler.

Tip: Make sure you check your iPhone/Touch "on" in the "Automatically transmit to" section of Airfoil's preferences on your main computer. This will allow you to switch between apps on your iPhone and then automatically have your music/video audio still streaming to your device as soon as you open up the Airfoil Speakers app on your iPhone. If you instead go with the default of "off" for the "Automatically transmit" preference, then you'll have to walk back to your computer and select your iPhone from your Airfoil output options every single time you close/reopen the app on your iPhone.

needthephone
Apr 19, 2009, 12:42 AM
Thanks- I installed airfoli and paid for the license key.

Finally I can listen to BBC Radio's listen Again on my iphone.

I had to select safari in the applications but it works brilliantly. I have my iphone in our logitech speaker base up stairs so we can listen to say The BBC Radio 1 Chris Moyles Show in the morning here in Australia.

Is there any way of setting up a timer on my imac which will start the listen again at a set time so we can use it as a radio alarm clock?????

I agree it needs to be two way so you have some remote control functionality on the iphone but maybe in a later release.

Also i would like to see an alarm clock and sleep timer function so you can use it to wake up and fall asleep to.

BBC Radio is easily the best in the world (well certainly better than US and Australian radio of which I have first hand experience- its dire)
Now hear all these shows when you want anywhere in the world on your iphone and 100 commercial free !!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/

I reccommend Chris Moyles Radio 1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chrismoyles/

Jeremy Vine Radio 2
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/jeremy-vine/


Steve Wright Radio 2
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/steve-wright-in-the-afternoon/

Jo Whiley Radio 1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/jowhiley/

Edith Bowman Radio 1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/edithbowman/

Steve Lamacq Radio 1 and 2 (hear all the new stiff here first before the rest of the world)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007b38j
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/innewmusicwetrust/stevelamacq/

LiveForever
Apr 19, 2009, 04:26 AM
one way to listen to listen again at a set time say to wake up at 6-30 am to Chris Moyles wherever you are.

Download alarm clock pro, its not free but there is a 15 day trial.

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/audio/alarmclockpro.html

Configure it to open a web page at the time you want (select all in the hrsmm and date to set every day)

say 6-30AM
then choose the event and choose open a web page. Go to set up and type the URL of the web page to open.

If you go to the BBC listen again consoles book mark it it can open as a web page so you can see its url

Chris Moyles latest show is

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00jrnlr (if you open it his show will play but you need realplayer installed)

so copy that in to the URL.

Then start Airfoil and automatically detect your iphone when you start the iphone airfoil speaker app.

Before you go to bed start airfoil and it will start to stream from your PC or Mac. You won't hear anything but you need to open the connection.

Put your iphone in your speaker dock or make sure its charging. The constant streaming will drain your battery.

Go to bed

At 6-30 am the chris moyles show will open and start playing and stream it to your iphone..

I experimented with it and this works.

I just don't know if they will change the listen again to latest show URL each day though-Ill find out tommorrow.

Just why the Beeb don't allow it on the iphone (the iplayer) outside the UK for Radio only though is beyond me

hotpace1
Apr 19, 2009, 06:57 AM
So once this is all setup how do I listen to music from my home mac to my iPhone 3G when I'm away from home? Do you have to be connected to a wifi signal or does it work over the cellular network like Simplify?

IEatApples
Apr 19, 2009, 07:38 AM
I hadn't seen Jaadu VNC before. Thank's for pointing that out. It looks amazing! I've been using the free Mocha VNC Lite, and it's good for the basics -- but it looks like Jaadu takes VNC to the next level. Advanced multi-gesture touchpad support and a VNC client rolled into one?! Sweet. $24.99 is steep, but I'm tempted to try it.

Re: Air Mouse. Do you prefer it to Snatch? I'd read that Snatch was a bit better than Air Mouse for touch-pad-like mouse control. (http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/11/12/app-app-air-mouse-snatch/) And I've been having fun with the free SnatchTest app and thinking about upgrading to the full version. Although, I was planning on using it more as a remote than as a mouse replacement (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=664593), so maybe Jaadu VNC is the better app for this as well.
Well, Jaadu is amazing, and there's hardly any latency, you can even watch video (though a bit choppy) through it! :)

Damn! Now I have to buy Snatch! :D And yes, it looks better then Air Mouse. :cool:

+ I guess I'll have to buy Airfoil as well… :rolleyes: (merde) ;)

IEatApples
Apr 19, 2009, 11:20 AM
But, oh, how I do digress. This thread is about the new Airfoil Speakers app for the iPhone/Touch. . . . Which I've been testing for the better part of the day. And let me say: It's awesome. Has worked perfectly so far -- syncs with videos, pipes music to every room in my house, etc . . . Haven't found a glitch so far. :D

The only drawback is, as I'd expected, the lack of built-in remote control within the Airfoil Speakers interface on the iPhone/Touch. Which wouldn't be a problem at all if we could run it as a background app, but as it is it's a little disappointing -- because once you load the app up, there's basically nothing else you can do with your iPhone without having your audio cut off...

It's a very cool trick that Airfoil turns your iPhone into an Airport Express-style streaming audio player; and it does this in an elegant way that takes very little time to set up and I'm using it happily as I type . . . But being able to run it as a background app and/or integrating some remote-control functionality would really make this app a lot cooler.
Ok, I bought Airfoil & downloaded it (Airfoil Speakers Touch) for my iPhone, but I can't say I'm very impressed, or even happy with it. There are NO controls! NONE! :(

Sure, I guess it's good as an "extra Airport Express", but all it does is receive sound!?

@lukecro: What do you mean by: "syncs with videos"? All I got was the sound from the video, and no way to control anything, not even volume! :confused:

quigleybc
Apr 19, 2009, 12:33 PM
So once this is all setup how do I listen to music from my home mac to my iPhone 3G when I'm away from home? Do you have to be connected to a wifi signal or does it work over the cellular network like Simplify?

that's the thing... you have to be on your local wifi for this to work, so once you leave home....it won't work over 3G or other wi fi's

cool app, but i live in a one bedroom apartment...not much use for me

i want something like simplify that is just overall better in performance (than simplify).

IEatApples
Apr 19, 2009, 01:56 PM
i want something like simplify that is just overall better in performance (than simplify).

+1! :)

hotpace1
Apr 19, 2009, 02:26 PM
that's the thing... you have to be on your local wifi for this to work, so once you leave home....it won't work over 3G or other wi fi's

cool app, but i live in a one bedroom apartment...not much use for me

i want something like simplify that is just overall better in performance (than simplify).

Totally don't see the excitement in this app then unless you live in Buckingham Palace or something!

mikeinternet
Apr 19, 2009, 06:59 PM
Nice working little app. Understandably there is latency which leaves it not very practical for audio applications. But if you want a quick way to hear a track through an iphone or something it works. I was just using it with reason fine.

Excellerator
Apr 19, 2009, 10:26 PM
I am not sure if its the app or my wifi connection but I get alot of annoying buffer errors (although Simplify never has done this - same computer). Weird!?! But it does allow me to listen to streaming music from Rhapsody though. I so wish there was a Rhapsody app for the iPhone, but I know it will never come because of their agreement with Verizon. That stinks too, unless Apple adds subscription based music to Itunes.

nagromme
Apr 20, 2009, 10:30 AM
Not exactly on topic, but I'll chime in with the others to praise Jaadu. Awesome app. Well worth the price!

Getting on my home Mac when I'm out and about is a great option for certain emergencies (need to email myself a client file, for instance). And it's the ultimate remote control (with screen display turned off) when I'm at home.

lukecro
Apr 20, 2009, 10:34 AM
Ok, I bought Airfoil & downloaded it (Airfoil Speakers Touch) for my iPhone, but I can't say I'm very impressed, or even happy with it. There are NO controls! NONE! :(

Sure, I guess it's good as an "extra Airport Express", but all it does is receive sound!?

@lukecro: What do you mean by: "syncs with videos"? All I got was the sound from the video, and no way to control anything, not even volume! :confused:

Sorry, I wasn't clear: I mean that by using Airfoil Video Player (and/or tweaking the audio lag in VLC by clicking the F and G keys on your keyboard), you can exactly sync the audio tracks of your videos (playing over wifi via Airfoil) with the video picture that's playing on your main computer. Regrettably, Airfoil can't send the video picture itself. But since they've mostly solved the syncing problem that wifi audio often has (where the lag/buffer in the wifi broadcast causes the wireless audio to go out of sync with the video that's playing on the source computer), it opens up some cool uses for Airfoil Speakers, such as the ability to use your iPhone/Touch as a wireless speaker/headphone setup. e.g., Watch a movie your computer with the audio going through your iPhone instead of external speakers so that you won't disturb other people in your house -- just like plugging headphones directly into your computer, except now you're mobile and can wander around your room or house, lie in bed without having to get an extension cord for your headphones, etc. Or plug the iPhone/Touch/Airport Express into your external stereo system to create some ad hoc surround-sound for your computer.

janstett
Apr 22, 2009, 06:46 AM
really? like what? besides listening to a movie quietly in the living room while your spouse is sleeping - i can't think of another use... there are pandora apps and such...

Pandora doesn't help you stream YOUR OWN music. And if you've got 400GB in your iTunes library, you can't sync that to even the 160gb iPod classic. It also lets you listen to internet streams including those you can't listen to natively on the iPhone, such as SiriusXM.

This is GREAT for extending whole-house audio. Take a look at what Airfoil (the desktop app) allows and you'll get the idea. Now not just other Macs and PCs can be remote speakers, but also the iPhone and iTouch.

Now you can carry a portable device and headphones to listen to your whole house audio. Or even carry it outside while you do your yardwork.

janstett
Apr 22, 2009, 06:52 AM
im guessing he used ps3 media server

http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/

:)

or MediaLink

http://www.nullriver.com/products/medialink

EDIT: oops, looks like medialink doesn't do mkv...

iPhoneNYC
Apr 22, 2009, 01:05 PM
I think Airfoil is great. I use it to listen to Pandora thru speakers around the apartment. When I listen to my own music, I use iTunes and Airport and play thru the speakers that way. But I'm not really sure what I would do with this app. All I can think of is be mobile and listen to Pandora thru headphones. Am I not getting it?

Grasbak
Apr 29, 2009, 07:01 AM
have only downloaded the trial of airfoil so far but am impressed.

tested with spotify and works great! free music piped all over the house!

mac in dining room - airport express in lounge - 1st gen ipod touch connected to stereo in kitchen - iphone roaming!

iPhoneNYC
Apr 29, 2009, 04:05 PM
have only downloaded the trial of airfoil so far but am impressed.

tested with spotify and works great! free music piped all over the house!

mac in dining room - airport express in lounge - 1st gen ipod touch connected to stereo in kitchen - iphone roaming!


How are you connecting the touch to the stereo in kitchen?

designgeek
Apr 29, 2009, 09:26 PM
This is awesome! Now I can use any stereo I want like i could with the airport express! I was hoping for something like this. I love Airfoil.

Grasbak
May 1, 2009, 03:37 AM
How are you connecting the touch to the stereo in kitchen?

just with a mini-jack to phono lead into the aux port on the stereo.

probably not the best way but works fine!

iPhoneNYC
May 1, 2009, 06:28 AM
I listen to music both thru iTunes and Pandora. I always play the music thru speakers in the living room via the airport. I have an extra set of speakers in the kitchen that I hook the iPhone into. Now, for those kitchen speakers, do I have to use two apps: Simplify for iTunes listening and Airfoil for Pandora or am I not figuring something out?

kevingaffney
May 4, 2009, 03:47 PM
Having suffered about four weeks with choppy music through my remote speakers and airport express, I installed airfoil. Problem immediately solved. Pity I did'nt think of this weeks ago and saved myself hours trawling forums for a solution to a bug in itunes 8.1

lukecro
May 4, 2009, 11:35 PM
I listen to music both thru iTunes and Pandora. I always play the music thru speakers in the living room via the airport. I have an extra set of speakers in the kitchen that I hook the iPhone into. Now, for those kitchen speakers, do I have to use two apps: Simplify for iTunes listening and Airfoil for Pandora or am I not figuring something out?

I'm able to stream iTunes music to the iPod Touch via the Airfoil app, no problem. It's very smooth, and easy to set up. So the Simplify app isn't required -- as long as you're in reach of your Wifi and you don't mind either exiting the Airfoil app and switching over to the Apple Remote app (or walking over to your main computer) in order to change your songs/playlists that you have streaming via Airfoil.

The iPhone/Touch Simplify app allows you to browse songs on your main computer's iTunes library, change what's playing, view cover art, and stream via Wifi and 3G -- while Airfoil allows you to broadcast to multiple devices (computers, iPhones, iPod Touches, Airport Expresses) simultaneously, and in sync with each other, from a wide variety of programs (including iTunes and audio from videos and streaming radio) but without remote-control access and only over Wifi. So Simplify has a similar but different functionality set compared to Airfoil -- both are great, depending on what you need them to do.

Hopefully a future version of Airfoil will add in some remote control functionality and/or the next generation of iPhones and iPod Touches will allow you to run multiple apps at once (so you can use the Remote app without having to turn off the Airfoil app).

omniinvoice
May 11, 2009, 10:50 AM
Really like this app. My office is on the 3rd floor of my house, and use it to send notifcations such Skype telephone calls when i'm in the living room. Only problem with that is I then have to run up the stairs to the top floor to answer the call lol