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goodwill
Apr 23, 2004, 11:16 AM
He is what represents every American Soldier.

Pat Tillman Article (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1788232)

This guy was incredible. Its devastating and his brother was in his platoon. I can't even begin to imagine.

sethypoo
Apr 23, 2004, 11:18 AM
This is aweful. My prayers go to his family, and especially his brother.

So, so sad.

wdlove
Apr 23, 2004, 11:30 AM
Death is always sad. It would especially be if your in the vicinity when the death of your brother occurs. My prayers go out to the Tillman family and friends. :(

radhak
Apr 23, 2004, 12:51 PM
This guy seems almost fictional in the dignity with which he has lived his life. He first let go of a really juicy contract to stay with his original team for a third of the money, then he let that go too to join the army, and that just after he returned from his honeymoon. I always used to wonder at the 'unreality' of such characters that are routinely created in hollywood...

I wish his family could know the awe he inspires, even in death.

mactastic
Apr 23, 2004, 12:56 PM
Hell of a guy. We could sure use more like him.

agreenster
Apr 23, 2004, 01:36 PM
That is one selfless man.

I feel bad for his new wife however, who I hope doesnt resent him for leaving to join the military.

Awimoway
Apr 23, 2004, 01:42 PM
“Hero” is a meaningless word in this country, it gets thrown around so damn loosely all the time. But Pat Tillman was a genuine hero in the original sense of the word. I am deeply saddened by this news. No greater love than to lay down your life for your friends.

Lancetx
Apr 23, 2004, 02:50 PM
He was a true American hero. All professional athletes and U.S. citizens in general could learn quite a bit from the example he set in life and the ultimate sacrifice he made for our country. My thoughts and prayers are with his entire family.

wdlove
Apr 23, 2004, 05:20 PM
“Hero” is a meaningless word in this country, it gets thrown around so damn loosely all the time. But Pat Tillman was a genuine hero in the original sense of the word. I am deeply saddened by this news. No greater love than to lay down your life for your friends.

I agree that he is hero. We are very lucky to have soldiers that are willing to put their life on the line so that we can sleep safely in our bed at night. Pat paid the ultimate sacrifice. I greatly appreciate his service. Others like him say at that they greatly appreciate our thoughts and prayers. We all owe them that much. Politics has no place in our fight for our freedom and very existence. When I have a chance I say thank you.

During the Vietnam war I didn't pass the draft physical with. Afterwards I was relieved, but also sad. Then after becoming a nurse I had the privilege of serving as an officer. It was still during the Vietnam era. Then also in the Reserves.

gwuMACaddict
Apr 23, 2004, 10:22 PM
God bless him and his familly

radhak
Apr 23, 2004, 11:01 PM
Tillman was a hero in that he did not want to be called one. I personally would never be able to give up what all he gave up. Heck, I am not sure I have the courage to leave the safety of my civilian life even for the training :( But please allow me to admire somebody who has all this courage. I am definitely not appreciating him to the exclusion of others who have gone the same path, so don't accuse me (or others here) of that. Its just that he is famous enough for discussion on macrumors while others are only known locally (so discussed elsewhere).

MacRAND
Apr 24, 2004, 12:36 PM
Pat Tillman played for our Arizona Cardinals football team.
By his personal choice, Pat had an active role in our community.
He has long been "our special friend and hero".
We enjoyed knowing him.
We miss him greatly.
To honor Pat Tillman, the
AZ Cardinals team has just retired his jersey
number 40 forever.

Rower_CPU
Apr 24, 2004, 02:09 PM
ENOUGH!

This thread is meant to honor the memory of some one who sacrificed his life for this country, not to debate politics. We have a whole forum just for that (http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=47) if that's what you want to do.

Off-topic posts have been deleted and those who've been warned in the past of such posts have been banned. Any further political discussion will result in that person receiving a one week ban.

I'm sad no-one reported this to the moderators and it got so out of hand.

Backtothemac
Apr 24, 2004, 02:39 PM
This is the type of person that inspires all people, accross boarders, race, sex etc. I have the utmost respect for him, and pray for him and his family.

wdlove
Apr 24, 2004, 07:20 PM
ENOUGH!

This thread is meant to honor the memory of some one who sacrificed his life for this country, not to debate politics. We have a whole forum just for that (http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=47) if that's what you want to do.

Off-topic posts have been deleted and those who've been warned in the past of such posts have been banned. Any further political discussion will result in that person receiving a one week ban.

I'm sad no-one reported this to the moderators and it got so out of hand.

I just now go one in my E.Mail Rower_CPU, sorry that we don't have adult acting individuals on the forum. When I saw it I thought that needs to be reported, so I just checked back. Thank you for cleaning up a thread or honor to our heroes.

MacAztec
Apr 25, 2004, 03:00 PM
This is one hell of a guy. He knows what defending our freedom is about. People don't support the war out there, but war is what gives us freedom. We have forgot that thousands upon thousands of people have fought for our freedoms in the past. It has been too long since the last big war, and now people forget the past.

He realized that America was under attack on 9/11, and people were attempting to take away our freedoms. He fought for that. If I was old enough to join the army, I would have fought for that too.

He has my respect.

StealthRider
Apr 25, 2004, 06:36 PM
Three Questions

Does anyone know what his rank/rate was?

When is the memorial?

Any decoratinos awarded besides the PH?

Awimoway
Apr 25, 2004, 07:47 PM
Three Questions

Does anyone know what his rank/rate was?

When is the memorial?

Any decoratinos awarded besides the PH?

I don't know the answers to any of these, but I do know that just getting through Ranger school is a major accomplishment. Many do not. So for him to say, as he did, that he was enlisting to be a Ranger and then succeeding at it is further evidence of the great man he was.

StealthRider
Apr 28, 2004, 07:56 PM
Yeah, I have...um...acquaintances (can't have friends in the Army if you are a Navy freak) that went through ranger school...one had to ring the bell due to medical problems, one got through. It's a tough life.

Frohickey
Apr 28, 2004, 08:22 PM
Tillman was a hero in that he did not want to be called one. I personally would never be able to give up what all he gave up. Heck, I am not sure I have the courage to leave the safety of my civilian life even for the training.

Yes, Pat Tillman *IS* a hero, not was. Even in death, his actions and deeds places him among the heroes that this country has known, be it the ones that served and survived and went on to private lives, or the ones that were awarded for bravery and gallantry after their loss in combat.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20040424/mdf547195.jpg

Frohickey
Apr 28, 2004, 08:26 PM
According to the picture, he is a Specialist (E-4) in rank. But a E-4 Ranger is not the same as an E-4 Supply Clerk.

(Am I the only one that thinks a beige beret looks wrong? Damn Shinseki and his black berets for regular Army. Rangers had been wearing black berets longer, they should have kept the black berets and the regular Army can wear the beige ones. They didn't strip the green berets from the Special Forces, or the maroon berets from Airborne. :mad:)