View Full Version : What is your faith / religion
chrmjenkins
Apr 21, 2009, 10:25 PM
I know this has done before, but there's no active topic. I'm curious and have a bad memory so I figured I would ask again.
Iscariot
Apr 21, 2009, 10:32 PM
I'm a Captain Americist, a recently converted Supermanonite.
ZiggyPastorius
Apr 21, 2009, 10:36 PM
I believe the great Space Donkey was having sex with Mars hundreds of millions of years ago, and a piece of his sperm flew to a nearby asteroid and impregnated it, creating what is now the Earth.
ucfgrad93
Apr 21, 2009, 10:40 PM
I am a Christian.
yojitani
Apr 21, 2009, 10:41 PM
Surprised there isn't an option for flying spaghetti monster.
http://www.indymedia.ie/cache/imagecache/local/attachments/feb2008/460_0___30_0_0_0_0_0_800pxtouched_by_his_noodly_appendage.jpg
Kashchei
Apr 21, 2009, 10:42 PM
Before this thread gets any longer, you need to add a major new religion (http://www.venganza.org/) to your poll.
Yojitani, you beat me to it!
brad.c
Apr 21, 2009, 10:47 PM
I don't believe the agnostics will vote.
yg17
Apr 21, 2009, 10:53 PM
Where's Scientology? I'm OT VIII :D
No1451
Apr 21, 2009, 10:56 PM
I don't believe the agnostics will vote.
I did:)
quagmire
Apr 21, 2009, 10:56 PM
I don't believe the agnostics will vote.
Ooops one just did. Me. :p
Make that two*
brad.c
Apr 21, 2009, 11:04 PM
Ha! You committed to something. ;)
.Andy
Apr 22, 2009, 01:04 AM
Only 25% of people here are followers of christine. I would have thought it much higher.
Cassie
Apr 22, 2009, 01:08 AM
Christian here.
AlexH
Apr 22, 2009, 01:15 AM
Christian.
chrmjenkins
Apr 22, 2009, 01:19 AM
Only 25% of people here are followers of christine. I would have thought it much higher.
I noticed my mistake, but I can't change the poll options :D I also found it curious that it made it italic, whereas no of the other options are in italics.
sushi
Apr 22, 2009, 01:24 AM
Only 25% of people here are followers of christine. I would have thought it much higher.
You have to take into consideration where the poll is posted and who reads these forums.
In this regard, I am surprised that Christianity is as high as it is.
Iscariot
Apr 22, 2009, 01:25 AM
I noticed my mistake, but I can't change the poll options :D I also found it curious that it made it italic, whereas no of the other options are in italics.
It italicizes the choice you made upon voting.
So I guess you've got a thing for anthropomorphic 1958 Plymouth Furys?
chrmjenkins
Apr 22, 2009, 01:27 AM
It italicizes the choice you made upon voting.
So I guess you've got a thing for anthropomorphic 1958 Plymouth Furys?
Ah, I just figured it was taunting me for my typo :o
ravenvii
Apr 22, 2009, 01:27 AM
Wow strong representation of atheists here.
AlexH
Apr 22, 2009, 01:43 AM
Wow strong representation of atheists here.
Indeed.
One thing surprises me though, and that is there are very few Jewish folk voting. It seems to me there are quite a few people who say they are Jewish, but apparently, they haven't found this thread yet...
yojitani
Apr 22, 2009, 02:08 AM
Indeed.
One thing surprises me though, and that is there are very few Jewish folk voting. It seems to me there are quite a few people who say they are Jewish, but apparently, they haven't found this thread yet...
Can you (royal 'you') be ethnically Jewish? This is a tough question in my opinion. One of my parents was raised Jewish etc. but is agnostic, eats pork, and hasn't been to synagogue for 50 years. Jewish? Am I an ethnic Jew? :confused: I did passovers, but no bar mitzvah. I had a Jewish grandmother!:eek: But, I found that Jews are quite different depending on where they grew up. That makes the category 'ethnic' kind of difficult... anyway, if you are an ethnic Jew, if there is such a thing, then you could be an atheist and Jewish, just not religiously Jewish.
EricNau
Apr 22, 2009, 02:11 AM
I believe the great Space Donkey was having sex with Mars hundreds of millions of years ago, and a piece of his sperm flew to a nearby asteroid and impregnated it, creating what is now the Earth.
You're a believer in Panspermia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia), then?
bradl
Apr 22, 2009, 02:28 AM
How dare you leave out Jedi (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/16/jedi_petition/)! :D
Seriously though, Pagan, though it mixes well with my Indian tribe and Christianity, so I'm stuck.
BL.
Queso
Apr 22, 2009, 05:13 AM
Atheism isn't a faith or religion, it is the rejection of faith and religion.
Chundles
Apr 22, 2009, 05:24 AM
Atheism isn't a faith or religion, it is the rejection of faith and religion.
No it isn't. It's neither. Atheism is an absence of religious belief.
I am an atheist. I don't reject others' faiths, I accept them as valid expressions of the human condition, I do not believe them as I base my perspectives on the facts at hand, none of which point towards truth in any religion.
Kardashian
Apr 22, 2009, 05:56 AM
Who's my other Jew baby? ;)
djellison
Apr 22, 2009, 06:08 AM
Where is the 'none' option?
I have no faith/religion - so the tick box should be 'none'
Jack Flash
Apr 22, 2009, 06:18 AM
No it isn't. It's neither. Atheism is an absence of religious belief.
I am an atheist. I don't reject others' faiths, I accept them as valid expressions of the human condition, I do not believe them as I base my perspectives on the facts at hand, none of which point towards truth in any religion.
Almost. Atheism is the belief that there are no deities.
blackfox
Apr 22, 2009, 07:04 AM
There's no humanist option fwiw.
I wouldn't necessarily vote that option, but it should be a polling option me thinks...
As is, I can't really vote - no option works for me. I am the most familiar with Christian principles, but I tend to be open to truth/good advice wherever it may be found - and there's a lot not to like in various dogma, so I don't attach to any one more than my critical thinking allows me to.
I do believe in a higher power and/or organizing principle - but choose not to try and define this any further. Don't know what this all makes me, and I guess I don't care...
Also, Christianity should probably reflect the East/West split.
imac/cheese
Apr 22, 2009, 08:25 AM
In case anyone was curious, I am a Christian.
Eanair
Apr 22, 2009, 08:51 AM
Technically, I'm a UU atheist.
yg17
Apr 22, 2009, 09:32 AM
Who's my other Jew baby? ;)
I voted Atheist, but I come from a Jewish family and was bar mitzvahed and all that. But I later realized that all organized religion, Judaism included, was BS ;)
Bill Gates
Apr 22, 2009, 10:07 AM
Can you (royal 'you') be ethnically Jewish? This is a tough question in my opinion. One of my parents was raised Jewish etc. but is agnostic, eats pork, and hasn't been to synagogue for 50 years. Jewish? Am I an ethnic Jew? :confused: I did passovers, but no bar mitzvah. I had a Jewish grandmother!:eek: But, I found that Jews are quite different depending on where they grew up. That makes the category 'ethnic' kind of difficult... anyway, if you are an ethnic Jew, if there is such a thing, then you could be an atheist and Jewish, just not religiously Jewish.
Of course you can. Once Jewish, always Jewish. If your mother is Jew, then you are, and so forth, A proper conversion is also irrevocable and forever confers status as a Jew. If you refer to Judaism as an ethnicity, then there are different denominations such as Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Mizrahi. A Jew that doesn't obey Jewish law is still a Jew, albeit a bad one.
yg17
Apr 22, 2009, 10:12 AM
Can you (royal 'you') be ethnically Jewish? This is a tough question in my opinion. One of my parents was raised Jewish etc. but is agnostic, eats pork, and hasn't been to synagogue for 50 years. Jewish? Am I an ethnic Jew? :confused: I did passovers, but no bar mitzvah. I had a Jewish grandmother!:eek: But, I found that Jews are quite different depending on where they grew up. That makes the category 'ethnic' kind of difficult... anyway, if you are an ethnic Jew, if there is such a thing, then you could be an atheist and Jewish, just not religiously Jewish.
I would consider myself an ethnic Jew. Both my parents are Jewish (albeit not very religious, like my dad gave up not eating bread about halfway into Passover because he had a craving for a Big Mac) and I've been bar mitzvahed and confirmed (and the other thing they do to Jewish boys at birth :() but I'm Atheist and think the religious aspect of it is a crock. But ethnicity is ethnicity, you can't change that.
maestro55
Apr 22, 2009, 10:13 AM
I am an atheist.
redwarrior
Apr 22, 2009, 10:19 AM
I am Christian, but certainly NOT religious.:cool:
leekohler
Apr 22, 2009, 10:19 AM
I'm an atheist. After taking classes on all the major religions in college and dabbling in Buddhism and Wicca, I came to the conclusion that there is no god. I was raised in a fundamentalist Christian family, so that was out from the beginning.
After seeing how completely flawed this physical world and it's inhabitants are, I find it absolutely ridiculous to believe that any god could be so cruel. And any belief system that favors some people over others just makes it more cruel.
This is the only life we get. We need to make the best of it while we are here and do our best to help others rather than condemn and persecute them.
chrmjenkins
Apr 22, 2009, 10:24 AM
Atheism isn't a faith or religion, it is the rejection of faith and religion.
Atheism is the "faith" that there is no God. Since most agree it's logically impossible to prove a negative, a faith/belief/confidence exists that one is right in saying no God exists where absolute certainty is a logical impossibility. Quite simply, I'm using faith as belief in the absence of undeniable truth, which exists in this case. While we may argue whether or not we can be positive about God's existence/non-existence, most would agree that logically, neither can be proven.
^Lee reminds me that I omitted Paganism. I knew there would be a few I left out.
iBlue
Apr 22, 2009, 10:32 AM
I'm an atheist.
It wasn't through lack of trying to understand and embrace religion that got me here. It was that the more I learned the more I thought "man, that's bullshyte!" and me and the old churchy wurchy went our separate ways. Well, actually I just went.
I wanted so badly to have that "peace" and doe-eyed optimism that I see in those with teh faith, but I couldn't force myself to believe. So I don't. I decided to go with what feels right for me. You know, I'm happier for it.
jonbravo77
Apr 22, 2009, 10:34 AM
Well, hmmm. I don't really fall under any category, I think... I am Jewish, and proud to be Jewish in the fact of the people/race. I do not necessarily have the Judaism belief, but I do think it is more true than any other Western religion. I believe in God, I don't believe there are all of these rules and regulations that people put in association with God. I think the biggest rule is to live your life the best that you can and hope to learn something along the way.
I certainly do not believe God is wrathful and gives you free will just to take it away. I do not believe (nor can I understand anyone believing) that God hates anything ie: homosexuality, or the act thereof. I think that is a very narrow minded view of God. I do believe that you are responsible for you and you only, no one else. Live your life to the fullest and try to better yourself along the way, stop getting so worked up over what someone else is doing with there life, that only takes time away from your own life...
I guess what it boils down to is that I do not believe that God has a religion, I guess to me God is my religion, something I believe in and I have faith in.
Sky Blue
Apr 22, 2009, 10:39 AM
Where is the 'none' option?
I have no faith/religion - so the tick box should be 'none'
Aye, I'm non-Religious.
scotthayes
Apr 22, 2009, 12:03 PM
looks like I'm in the company of a lot of fellow atheists.
WinterMute
Apr 22, 2009, 12:06 PM
Atheist and anti-religious, as if you hadn't noticed.:)
brad.c
Apr 22, 2009, 12:18 PM
looks like I'm in the company of a lot of fellow atheists.
That makes me think: I wonder how atheism/theism fares by gender. Are women, stereotypically more touchy-feely by nature, more inclined to be spiritual?
iJohnHenry
Apr 22, 2009, 12:19 PM
Surprised there isn't an option for flying spaghetti monster.
I guess he didn't have the balls for that??
I don't believe the agnostics will vote.
I believe you are incorrect. Number 10, here. :p
Ha! You committed to something. ;)
And if committing to something is following dogma, that is not me.
Is their something else?? Obviously. Do I subscribe to what another person thinks that is?? No way.
Eanair
Apr 22, 2009, 12:20 PM
That makes me think: I wonder how atheism/theism fares by gender. Are women, stereotypically more touchy-feely by nature, more inclined to be spiritual?
Not this one. :)
brad.c
Apr 22, 2009, 12:26 PM
Not this one. :)
Good to know :)
I also wonder if there would be a parallel against studies that say women tend less towards the sciences, and more towards the arts. These are studies that I've heard referenced in education forums (I'd have to find a link or two, sorry) that discussed a lack of preference, not ability for girls to pursue a career in science.
I'm trying to get my daughter interested in things like space, construction, and math. Now if they had an Astronaut Barbie, I know I'd have a better chance.
leekohler
Apr 22, 2009, 12:28 PM
Good to know :)
I also wonder if there would be a parallel against studies that say women tend less towards the sciences, and more towards the arts. These are studies that I've heard referenced in education forums (I'd have to find a link or two, sorry) that discussed a lack of preference, not ability for girls to pursue a career in science.
I'm trying to get my daughter interested in things like space, construction, and math. Now if they had an Astronaut Barbie, I know I'd have a better chance.
Oh boy- good luck. That may be something she gets more into later in school. Let her have her Barbies now for god's sake. Let her be a kid. If she's not interested, she's not interested.
Cassie
Apr 22, 2009, 12:30 PM
That makes me think: I wonder how atheism/theism fares by gender. Are women, stereotypically more touchy-feely by nature, more inclined to be spiritual?
Eh, I'm Christian. But I know plenty of other women who are atheistic/agnostic, so I'm inclined to say no.
chrmjenkins
Apr 22, 2009, 12:37 PM
I guess he didn't have the balls for that??
I've committed to not including intentionally fictional beliefs. Besides, who needs balls when FSM obviously has giant ones to use in your stead? :rolleyes:
djellison
Apr 22, 2009, 12:42 PM
I've committed to not including intentionally fictional beliefs.
Given the discussion in the other thread - you'll understand this.
Thank you for the best laugh I've had all day, and thank god I didn't have a mouth full of coffee when I read it :)
Tomorrow
Apr 22, 2009, 12:44 PM
Christian, with Deist leanings. Whatever you believe, you believe - my choice isn't any better than anyone else's.
Eanair
Apr 22, 2009, 01:35 PM
I also wonder if there would be a parallel against studies that say women tend less towards the sciences, and more towards the arts. These are studies that I've heard referenced in education forums (I'd have to find a link or two, sorry) that discussed a lack of preference, not ability for girls to pursue a career in science.
I'm trying to get my daughter interested in things like space, construction, and math. Now if they had an Astronaut Barbie, I know I'd have a better chance.
They don't have an astronaut Barbie? Even now? Seems a bit odd. I thought every kid at one point had aspirations of being an astronaut, and that would have been something to tap into. I would have loved an astronaut Barbie.
Growing up, I had a doctor Barbie at least. It was still rather gender stereotypical because she was meant to be a pediatrician, but she was still a doctor, not a nurse. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the only reason my mom let me get her.
Personally, I would love to see a PhD Barbie. :D
EDIT: Wow that got really off topic. Back to the thread...
skunk
Apr 22, 2009, 02:26 PM
I see no reason to suppose there is a god, but I am quite comfortable with the concept of animism.
MacNut
Apr 22, 2009, 02:35 PM
I guess I would choose Christian, all tho I am Roman Catholic. /shrug
FreeState
Apr 22, 2009, 02:40 PM
Im a former Mormon turned Modern Theravadin Buddhist (Agnostic).
themoonisdown09
Apr 22, 2009, 02:43 PM
I am a Christian (Baptist, not Catholic).
Ntombi
Apr 22, 2009, 02:49 PM
I'm an atheist.
And a woman.
I find religion to be fascinating in the abstract, but mostly in how it can sometimes turn otherwise rational people into myopic judgmental sadists. That's why I minored in Religion in college. :cool:
Ant1-Hero
Apr 22, 2009, 02:57 PM
No Jedi?!?!?!
Well I'm a Pagan, germanic, none of the harry potter crap
ZiggyPastorius
Apr 22, 2009, 04:47 PM
Atheism is the "faith" that there is no God. Since most agree it's logically impossible to prove a negative, a faith/belief/confidence exists that one is right in saying no God exists where absolute certainty is a logical impossibility. Quite simply, I'm using faith as belief in the absence of undeniable truth, which exists in this case. While we may argue whether or not we can be positive about God's existence/non-existence, most would agree that logically, neither can be proven.
^Lee reminds me that I omitted Paganism. I knew there would be a few I left out.
Wrong for the same reason that not believing in fairies or Santa isn't faith. If there's no evidence of something, it is myth. Of course, if you agree that you have to have faith to say fairies don't exist, then we're in perfect agreeance...
You're a believer in Panspermia, then?
Haha, well, I was actually being absurd. I voted atheist, and I do not hold belief in any deities, even the great donkey. Though what I meant was not panspermic, but rather than the asteroid itself became impregnated and grew like a baby, into Earth.
Iscariot
Apr 22, 2009, 04:55 PM
Atheism is the "faith" that there is no God.
I realize this is an attempt to create some equivalence between religion and atheism, but doesn't this just devalue the necessity of faith in your religion? If the definition of faith is expanded to such great lengths that faith is simply believing something — anything — then everyone has faith. It was my understanding that faith was an important component of Christianity, but if it is such an abundant commodity that I have faith that my pillows will still be soft in the morning your faith in a God suddenly has a meager level of significance.
localoid
Apr 22, 2009, 07:36 PM
This week: I'm an Absurdist[1] hoping to someday experience the promise of "life after uploading (http://www.ibiblio.org/jstrout/uploading/)" via The Singularity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity).
But who knows? Perhaps next week I will embrace Peyotism[2].
1. Absurdism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism): A philosophy stating that the efforts of humanity to find meaning in the universe ultimately fail (and hence are absurd), because no such meaning exists, at least in relation to the individual. The word "absurd" in this context does not mean "logically impossible", but rather "humanly impossible". Basically, Absurdism is the ultimate form of agnosticism in the sense that man can never truly "know".
2. Banned by The Inquisition of New Spain, June 29, 1620.
iBlue
Apr 23, 2009, 02:24 AM
That makes me think: I wonder how atheism/theism fares by gender. Are women, stereotypically more touchy-feely by nature, more inclined to be spiritual?
I also wonder if there would be a parallel against studies that say women tend less towards the sciences, and more towards the arts. These are studies that I've heard referenced in education forums (I'd have to find a link or two, sorry) that discussed a lack of preference, not ability for girls to pursue a career in science.
I'm trying to get my daughter interested in things like space, construction, and math. Now if they had an Astronaut Barbie, I know I'd have a better chance.
Way to stereotype, dude. I really think it's down to a lot more than simply gender.
This woman is an atheist and a scientist, BTW.
FadeToBlack
Apr 23, 2009, 03:48 AM
Atheist.
I was raised in a Christian household, but once I started thinking about it all around age 12/13, I started researching all kinds of religions and basically just ended up being an atheist at about 14 or so. I have no problem at all with other people picking whatever religion they want to follow, as long as they don't try to intrude into my life. :cool:
MotleyPete
Apr 23, 2009, 03:59 AM
Dudeist (http://www.dudeism.com/)
Just take it easy, man.
djellison
Apr 23, 2009, 05:15 AM
Dudeist (http://www.dudeism.com/)
Just take it easy, man.
Now THAT - is my kind of church.
iBlue
Apr 23, 2009, 05:22 AM
http://upc.edesignuk.com/uploads/macros/Dudetakeiteasy.jpg
Now THAT - is my kind of church.
Mine too. (as my current avatar might clearly demonstrate)
djellison
Apr 23, 2009, 05:38 AM
I actually watched The BL recently - my other half had never seen it, she needed educating.
I have spent most of my time since saying
"Shut the ******* up Donny"
MotleyPete
Apr 23, 2009, 06:11 AM
You can even become an ordained Dudeist priest (http://www.dudeism.com/ordination.html)
Or, El Dudeist Priesterino, if your not into the who brevity thing.
doubleohseven
Apr 23, 2009, 06:31 AM
I'm Christian (Catholic).
I too am surprised to see the number of Atheists here. Well, it's each to their own I guess.
Cromulent
Apr 23, 2009, 06:39 AM
Atheism is the "faith" that there is no God.
No it is not, and that is great corruption of the meaning of the word anyway. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a deity or deities.
It is expected human behaviour to not believe in something with no credible evidence supporting it.
As always the burden of proof lies solely with religious people. I'll happily change my beliefs if someone comes up with some rock hard solid evidence that says God exists, until then I simply don't believe in a deity and think the notion is somewhat preposterous. No part of that has anything to do with faith.
.Andy
Apr 23, 2009, 06:45 AM
I too am surprised to see the number of Atheists here. Well, it's each to their own I guess.
Welcome to the future :).
djellison
Apr 23, 2009, 07:58 AM
No it is not, and that is great corruption of the meaning of the word anyway. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a deity or deities.
It is expected human behaviour to not believe in something with no credible evidence supporting it.
You're late to the game on this one. I've been 10 rounds with chrm et.al. on it.
brad.c
Apr 23, 2009, 08:02 AM
...Well, it's each to their own I guess.
If only that were the case, and I'm not talking atheism.
Jack Flash
Apr 23, 2009, 08:11 AM
Welcome to the future :).
:rolleyes: The atheist superiority complex. :p
I do think, though, that religions (specifically Christianity) will, over the coming two decades, become much more socially progressive. When the baby boomers die we will see many social changes.
Cromulent
Apr 23, 2009, 08:32 AM
You're late to the game on this one. I've been 10 rounds with chrm et.al. on it.
Better late than never :).
KingYaba
Apr 23, 2009, 12:27 PM
I believe in causality. You know, "what comes around goes around." That sort of thing...
djellison
Apr 23, 2009, 02:28 PM
Karma, basically. I do have a certain empathy with that, but in a 'real' way.
Do nice things for people, and they will like you for it, and be inspired to do nice things back. It's a simple, practical, observable circle of reason.
Shotglass
Apr 23, 2009, 04:57 PM
I do think, though, that religions (specifically Christianity) will, over the coming two decades, become much more socially progressive.Progress is not in the interest of any religion. If Christianity progressed beyond homophobia for example, it would just be another piece of evidence that this whole religion is a pile of BS.
As for the poll, I'm an atheist now, used to be a Christian (raised by fundamentalists), but lost all faith when I started reading the bible.
kastenbrust
Apr 23, 2009, 05:10 PM
Im shocked noone has said Macism yet!! All worship lord Steve!!
http://www.godsmac.com/godsmac144.jpg
http://www.tapestrycalgary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/iam.jpg
emt1
Apr 23, 2009, 06:54 PM
This poll really blew my mind (in a good way!)
62% are atheist or agnostic. Nice.
FreeState
Apr 23, 2009, 07:07 PM
This poll really blew my mind (in a good way!)
62% are atheist or agnostic. Nice.
Its possibly more than that as well (Buddhism does not require a belief in God(s) nor does it have a God. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Buddhism )
michael.lauden
Apr 23, 2009, 07:10 PM
the only bad thing about religion is the actual church or whatever. do you really hate christianity? or do you just hate PEOPLE who are christian?
IMO denominations and all that mumbo jumbo is really lame. christianity is about YOUR relationship with God. not about how your beliefs are better than someone elses.
if you guys can agree with that you should check out a great book:
it's called Unchristian. google it
emt1
Apr 23, 2009, 07:13 PM
the only bad thing about religion is the actual church or whatever. do you really hate christianity? or do you just hate PEOPLE who are christian?
IMO denominations and all that mumbo jumbo is really lame. christianity is about YOUR relationship with God. not about how your beliefs are better than someone elses.
if you guys can agree with that you should check out a great book:
it's called Unchristian. google it
Religion usually irritates me quite a bit.
Belief in a higher power does not.
I do not *hate* Christianity or Christians though. Just the fundies. :)
iJohnHenry
Apr 23, 2009, 07:24 PM
What a load of *****. I DO NOT hate Christians, in fact I honour their beliefs.
redwarrior
Apr 23, 2009, 08:11 PM
This poll really blew my mind (in a good way!)
62% are atheist or agnostic. Nice.
do you just hate PEOPLE who are christian?
What a load of *****. I DO NOT hate Christians, in fact I honour their beliefs.
I have to admit that emt1's comment ruffled my feathers a tad. I mean, I don't see why it's so great that there are a lesser number of people like me on here, what's so wrong with me (Christian)? But, part of being Christian is realizing it's not all about me.:rolleyes:
ZiggyPastorius
Apr 23, 2009, 08:27 PM
I have to admit that emt1's comment ruffled my feathers a tad. I mean, I don't see why it's so great that there are a lesser number of people like me on here, what's so wrong with me (Christian)? But, part of being Christian is realizing it's not all about me.:rolleyes:
I don't like emt1's comment was meant to say that Christians are bad people or anything, I think he, like many of the non-religious people, think it's good to see so many atheists on here. I wouldn't take it any more to heart than a non-religious person would someone saying "I was shocked by this poll(in a good way)! 62% Christian. Nice."
:)
redwarrior
Apr 23, 2009, 08:31 PM
I don't like emt1's comment was meant to say that Christians are bad people or anything, I think he, like many of the non-religious people, think it's good to see so many atheists on here. I wouldn't take it any more to heart than a non-religious person would someone saying "I was shocked by this poll(in a good way)! 62% Christian. Nice."
:)
And I really didn't take it wrong. I was tempted to, but I decided not to. In today's society we have to be so careful to be politically correct so as not to offend. I don't want to make anyone feel like they have to worry about offending me. I just felt like being a smart ass about it, all in fun.;)
ZiggyPastorius
Apr 23, 2009, 08:32 PM
And I really didn't take it wrong. I was tempted to, but I decided not to. In today's society we have to be so careful to be politically correct so as not to offend. I don't want to make anyone feel like they have to worry about offending me. I just felt like being a smart ass about it, all in fun.;)
Oh, I'm sure you're not that easily offended, you just sounded a bit upset in your post, and I wanted to make sure you knew we love you :D
redwarrior
Apr 23, 2009, 08:47 PM
Oh, I'm sure you're not that easily offended, you just sounded a bit upset in your post, and I wanted to make sure you knew we love you :DLove... God is Love. :D Sorry, another smart ass comment.:p Group hug in the religion thread.
Iscariot
Apr 23, 2009, 08:56 PM
Love... God is Love. :D Sorry, another smart ass comment.:p Group hug in the religion thread.
Me God don't hug. Me God kick butt!
maclover001
Apr 23, 2009, 08:58 PM
Atheist here. I can't think of a single religion that makes sense scientifically.
ZiggyPastorius
Apr 23, 2009, 09:01 PM
Love... God is Love. :D Sorry, another smart ass comment.:p Group hug in the religion thread.
If God is my love, then God has a pretty big member...
...:eek: Did I say that out loud?
redwarrior
Apr 23, 2009, 09:03 PM
If God is my love, then God has a pretty big member...
Now THAT makes sense.:p *excuse me while I go give Iscariot a big hug.
chrmjenkins
Apr 23, 2009, 09:03 PM
Atheist here. I can't think of a single religion that makes sense scientifically.
A core tenet of the Bahá'í faith is the harmony of religion and science
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_Faith_and_science
ZiggyPastorius
Apr 23, 2009, 09:05 PM
Atheist here. I can't think of a single religion that makes sense scientifically.
Scientology sounds kind of like science ....
:p
emt1
Apr 23, 2009, 09:07 PM
Atheist here. I can't think of a single religion that makes sense scientifically.
High five. Science for the win!
63dot
Apr 23, 2009, 09:22 PM
I put Christianity, but find no desperate need to state the later terms Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Born Again, Jehovah's Witness, Latter Day Saints, Adventist, Charismatic, Conservative, Liberal, Mainstream, etc.
brad.c
Apr 23, 2009, 09:35 PM
High five. Science for the win!
Is there faith in science?
fireshot91
Apr 23, 2009, 09:45 PM
I'm Hindu.
emt1
Apr 23, 2009, 09:50 PM
Is there faith in science?
Not required.
brad.c
Apr 23, 2009, 10:03 PM
Not required.
Exactly, so science doesn't qualify for the poll, inasmuch as it demands proof.
yojitani
Apr 23, 2009, 10:04 PM
A core tenet of the Bahá'í faith is the harmony of religion and science
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_Faith_and_science
I'm really surprised not one Bahá'í has voted. I seem to know a lot of Bahá'í and they all use Macs. :D Seriously, I thought there would be at least one or two...
twistedlegato
Apr 23, 2009, 10:58 PM
Well i'll be our first Bahá'í here :)
I've been raised in a Bahá'í family and i couldn't love it more.
The Bahá'í faith is primarily a religion in which our main goal is to unite all of humanity, with absolutely no prejudice.
For those who are interested, visit www.bahai.org
EDIT: AND YES. We believe that science and religion correspond perfectly. There is evidence on both sides.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahá%27í_Faith_and_science
emt1
Apr 24, 2009, 12:46 AM
Exactly, so science doesn't qualify for the poll, inasmuch as it demands proof.
My religion is demanding proof. ;)
djellison
Apr 24, 2009, 03:15 AM
Is there faith in science?
NO
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/18/is-science-faith-based/
A core tenet of the Bahá'í faith is the harmony of religion and science
"knowledge must be obtained through the interaction of the insights obtained from revelation from God"
'God' of course, being a thing never actually proven to exist. That's not really 'harmony'.
"Know thou that every fixed star hath its own planets, and every planet its own creatures, whose number no man can compute"
Not very scientific. I'd rather use science to find that answer. And the stars are not fixed.
" science without religion would lead to a person becoming totally materialistic,"
Err...just no.
It's just a faith like any other. Trying to make itself a bit more 'valid' by throwing science in there - but ultimately, just a faith in a God, like any other.
imac/cheese
Apr 24, 2009, 08:41 AM
Me God don't hug. Me God kick butt!
Looks pretty huggable to me...
Iscariot
Apr 24, 2009, 03:16 PM
Looks pretty huggable to me...
…and the dominoes have fallen like a house of cards. Checkmate.
Well played, sir.
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