STDs

[carbonmotion]

I just found out that my roomies friend had sex with a girl who has STDS... Now, he has sypillis. What is it? How long will he be cured? Oh ****, I feel so bad for this guy...

[Sun Baked]

I guess the usual thing to say is: not to have sex with your roomies friend until he gets this STD cleared up. ;)

[blackfox]

Well the good news...syphilis, if caught early is easily treated w/ a full recovery...the problem is that it is often hard to know you have it...(painless sore at first, I believe...then no symptoms)...if let go, it can cause serious organ damage and death.
Nevertheless, I feel sorry for your friend, but in this day and age you have to be more careful...good luck to him.

[carbonmotion]

Well the good news...syphilis, if caught early is easily treated w/ a full recovery...the problem is that it is often hard to know you have it...(painless sore at first, I believe...then no symptoms)...if let go, it can cause serious organ damage and death.
Nevertheless, I feel sorry for your friend, but in this day and age you have to be more careful...good luck to him.
well he said he had problems / experience extreme pain when urinating.

[coopdog]

Maybe it up before posting? Idiot should have used a rubbber in the first place.

[cb911]

well if you go around doing things like that it's going to happen sooner or later.

well is still do feel sorry for any people who have STDs or any other diseases... :(

[carbonmotion]

well if you go around doing things like that it's going to happen sooner or later.

well is still do feel sorry for any people who have STDs or any other diseases... :( not to get moral on you, the girl shouldve stopped having sex after getting the disease

[blackfox]

not to get moral on you, the girl shouldve stopped having sex after getting the disease
In reference to him having painful urination...then he has either gonorrhea or chlmaydia...both are succesfully treated with antibiotics...
In reference to the quote above, in either infection listed (gon. or chy) oftentimes the woman has no symptoms (80%)...once again, I reiterate both my sympathy for your friend and the fact that everyone needs to take personal responsibility for their health...

[baby duck monge]

AFAIK, all the diseases listed here are treatable. they all just also suck a lot. at least he caught it pretty quickly (no pun intended). people need to be more careful (as well as open with their partners - even if it's just a one-time thing).

[virividox]

damn sucks to be him!!! but thats why u should make sure u know ur partners and all that

but best if u dont do it at all

[carbonmotion]

damn sucks to be him!!! but thats why u should make sure u know ur partners and all that

but best if u dont do it at all you're talling a 20 year old male to stop having sex? are you nuts?

[stoid]

you're talling a 20 year old male to stop having sex? are you nuts?

Ever heard of abstinence? Just because you are a guy doesn't mean you can't be a slut. Have some respect for yourselves as humans people, please!

[carbonmotion]

Ever heard of abstinence? Just because you are a guy doesn't mean you can't be a slut. Have some respect for yourselves as humans people, please! ok, aunt polly. should i go back to courting the gentle ladies victorian style?

[virividox]

im telling him its better to not have sex and piss with out pain than have sex and getting all messed up down there...

[stoid]

ok, aunt polly. should i go back to courting the gentle ladies victorian style?

Well you could start by occasionally keeping your pants zipped, and not sticking your dick into every hole you find. I'm not expecting that everyone uses self-control until marriage, but based on general interest for one's own well-being, I would expect that they at least know where they are sticking it. Then again, people do smoke cigarettes enough to make a successful industry out of it.

Have you ever noticed that most of the terrible and disgusting and powerful diseases that afflict the human race are STDs? Makes you think twice before whoring yourself out to anything that will sleep with you. Or not, I guess.

[carbonmotion]

Well you could start by occasionally keeping your pants zipped, and not sticking your dick into every hole you find. I'm not expecting that everyone uses self-control until marriage, but based on general interest for one's own well-being, I would expect that they at least know where they are sticking it. Then again, people do smoke cigarettes enough to make a successful industry out of it.

Have you ever noticed that most of the terrible and disgusting and powerful diseases that afflict the human race are STDs? Makes you think twice before whoring yourself out to anything that will sleep with you. Or not, I guess. i dont think the problem can be solved with absetinence, but rather picking your partner wisely.

[stoid]

i dont think the problem can be solved with absetinence, but rather picking your partner wisely.

That's all I'm really asking for. If you get to know a person and want to express your love through pre-marital sex, I don't agree, but by all means go for it. Just don't screw the passed out drunk girl at a frat party. Really just common sense I think.

[pseudobrit]

Have you ever noticed that most of the terrible and disgusting and powerful diseases that afflict the human race are STDs?

Yeah, I hate that. I caught a case of leprosy from a hooker in Hamburg a few years back. And then there was the time I got pancreatic cancer from that one night stand. Awful stuff, almost as bad as the diabetes she gave me.

And don't get me started on that cheating girlfriend who gave me plague, dysentery, yellow fever, malaria, dengue, smallpox and ebola all in one week! What a whore!

[pseudobrit]

Just don't screw the passed out drunk girl at a frat party. Really just common sense I think.

I agree. She's gotta be partially awake for it to be nearly as fun.

[CrackedButter]

Yeah, I hate that. I caught a case of leprosy from a hooker in Hamburg a few years back. And then there was the time I got pancreatic cancer from that one night stand. Awful stuff, almost as bad as the diabetes she gave me.

And don't get me started on that cheating girlfriend who gave me plague, dysentery, yellow fever, malaria, dengue, smallpox and ebola all in one week! What a whore!

Your sarcasism aside, he still makes a good point, AIDS scares me crazy.

[crenz]

you're talling a 20 year old male to stop having sex? are you nuts?

Males at any age should be able to exercise self-control, shouldn't they?

[redAPPLE]

im telling him its better to not have sex and piss with out pain than have sex and getting all messed up down there...

not have sex? that would be difficult.

[redAPPLE]

Just don't screw the passed out drunk girl at a frat party. Really just common sense I think.

id say, if you do. then use plastic.

[job]

don't be a fool, wrap your tool....

[howard]

i don't know how anyone, knowing they have an std, not tell there partner about it. thats horribly wrong.

as far as sex before marraige, do it all you like. but no matter the situation, just be safe, know your partner and know the consequences.





warning, bad joke:





you don't want to catch the worst std: babies

[scem0]

I agree with stoid.

If you are going to have sex with someone, be sure that you know this person very well. Sex is all about trust, i'm not willing to trust someone I barely know with potentially my life. In this case, you friend trusted someone he shouldn't have, and he paid for it.

He got what he asked for.

scem0

[WinterMute]

When I was 18 and at Uni, I had no self control either, but then, in those days, safe sex was a padded headboard...

HIV is a death sentence, your roomie is lucky he hasn't killed himself, a dose of the clap might save his life.

[Dros]

I agree. She's gotta be partially awake for it to be nearly as fun.

And nearly as legal! :eek:

[Skeeball236]

del

[rainman::|:|]

in my experience, people are quick to condemn those that got STDs, because they're very frightening and something we're personally succeptable to, or can remember a time when we could have caught one ourselves. So lashing out at people that got STDs, and judging them, is a way of being angry that you put yourself in a similar situation at some point. i'm not pointing a finger at anyone here, but come on people, we all did stupid stuff in school and college. i don't think there's any reason to be condescending to someone who wasn't lucky enough to dodge it.

i never caught one, but many of my friends have. nothing too serious tho. it's a scary thought, but as many as 1/3 people have herpes... i've heard that number change but it's very high no matter what. that means all you have to do to have high chances of getting herpes is to have some sort of sexual encounter with 3 people. keeping in mind that even condoms don't do much to block herpes transmission.

paul

[baby duck monge]

Yeah, I hate that. I caught a case of leprosy from a hooker in Hamburg a few years back. And then there was the time I got pancreatic cancer from that one night stand. Awful stuff, almost as bad as the diabetes she gave me.

And don't get me started on that cheating girlfriend who gave me plague, dysentery, yellow fever, malaria, dengue, smallpox and ebola all in one week! What a whore!

well some forms of cancer can be jump-started by various STDs...

that aside, the fact still remains that while not all horrible diseases are STDs, STDs are still nasty little buggers.

and don't forget to protect against the worst STD of all: pregnancy. :eek:

/where am i going, and why am i in this hand-basket?

[Roger1]

Ugh. I came to the forum tonight for some light reading, while eating a snack. What do I come across?? A 3 eyed cow and the clap :eek: Neither go well with strawberry cheesecake. :mad:

Seriously your buddy should tell the girl she gave him a disease..She may not even know she has it.

[Neserk]

don't be a fool, wrap your tool....


Good advice. But keep in mind that wraps break and some STD's can be passed anyhow (Genital Herpes, for example). Being picky about who you sleep with is a very good plan...

[Sun Baked]

Ugh. I came to the forum tonight for some light reading, while eating a snack. What do I come across?? A 3 eyed cow and the clap :eek: Neither go well with strawberry cheesecake. :mad:You're right, these threads probably go better with suitably a prepped member that's ready to post in the Drunk.

[sushi]

Good advice. But keep in mind that wraps break and some STD's can be passed anyhow (Genital Herpes, for example). Being picky about who you sleep with is a very good plan...
But always remember...

...the carrier (the person that you trust/love) may not know that they have an STD, and thus pass it on to you.

Sushi

[Neserk]

But always remember...

...the carrier (the person that you trust/love) may not know that they have an STD, and thus pass it on to you.



and your point is?

You should really get yourself tested and insist on any new partner be tested as well.

[sushi]

Ugh. I came to the forum tonight for some light reading, while eating a snack. What do I come across?? A 3 eyed cow and the clap :eek: Neither go well with strawberry cheesecake. :mad:

Seriously your buddy should tell the girl she gave him a disease..She may not even know she has it.
You comment brought back my first STD briefing...

First they showed a lady. It was a head and shoulders shot. From the left side, she was a pretty looking woman if I do say so.

Then they showed a picture of her right side. All I remember is that my pepperoni pizza and her face looked somewhat the same. I almost threw up.

Sypillis is a nasty disease in its later stages if left untreated.

Sushi

[sushi]

and your point is?

You should really get yourself tested and insist on any new partner be tested as well.
If you had read the thread, you would know.

Some folks have suggested that being picky about whom you sleep with, or doing it with someone that you love/trust will decrease your change for catching a STD.

While generally that is true, there are many folks out there who do not know that they are carriers.

Testing is not a perfect solution either.

And that is my point.

There is no 100% solution, except not having sex. Sure there are ways that you can minimize your exposure. However, there is always a risk of catching a STD if you have sex.

Sushi

[oldschool]

AFAIK, all the diseases listed here are treatable. they all just also suck a lot.

they could be resistant strains. There are more and more cases every year with bacterial strains that are resistant to even the "last resort" antibiotics.

Also, i think that something worse than transferring genital herpes from your partners genitals to yours, is getting it transferred from your partner's to your face...
:eek:

[jefhatfield]

i want to clear up some misconceptions on HIV/AIDS

it is a death sentence in the third world but a chronic disease in the modern countries...many AIDS patients die within weeks of developing full blown AIDS in africa, but may live decades in the usa due to better drugs/treatments...and counting pre AIDS HIV which is ten years or longer, it's possible a person can live a whole lifespan in the west...as with diabetes type II which is another terrible, but chronic and manageable disease which increasingly sees more and more people survive with into old age

hiv tends to afflict gay men and iv drug users in the west, but is primarily a disease of hetererosexual people in the third world and overall, it's not anything close to a "gay disease"

while it's rather hard to transmit in the west...anal and vaginal intercourse and needle sharing...it's much easier to catch in the third world where people have scarred genitals and urethras from other rampant, unchecked diseases so the time and rigorousness of intercourse is much less to potentially become infected..this makes the disease a killer of thousands in america over the years vs millions in africa...so where a man may not easily catch it from a woman from unprotected intercourse in the west, the average man in africa stands a much, much higher probability of catching it...with the same act

but there is no such thing as 100% safe sex concerning any std and even if there is a full on cure for AIDS in the future, it will never be a good idea to have unprotected intercourse because there are at least 200 std's out there which are considred common and some of those can kill you

and pregnancy, not an std like a couple of posters mentioned, still does add to the misery unwanted children face day to day and the human toll of suffereing due to unwanted and unplanned pregnancies add a whole host of social problems which actually worry local and federal government more than the std's themselves

[musicpyrite]

in my experience, people are quick to condemn those that got STDs, because they're very frightening and something we're personally succeptable to, or can remember a time when we could have caught one ourselves. So lashing out at people that got STDs, and judging them, is a way of being angry that you put yourself in a similar situation at some point. i'm not pointing a finger at anyone here, but come on people, we all did stupid stuff in school and college. i don't think there's any reason to be condescending to someone who wasn't lucky enough to dodge it.

i never caught one, but many of my friends have. nothing too serious tho. it's a scary thought, but as many as 1/3 people have herpes... i've heard that number change but it's very high no matter what. that means all you have to do to have high chances of getting herpes is to have some sort of sexual encounter with 3 people. keeping in mind that even condoms don't do much to block herpes transmission.

paul

I swear paul, you need to become some kind of therapist.

[Neserk]

well some forms of cancer can be jump-started by various STDs...



Cervical Cancer for example is highly associated with 1 form Genital Herpes, I believe.

[Neserk]

If you had read the thread, you would know.


My bad, I didn't mean *you* specifically, but rather generically, as in all people.


Some folks have suggested that being picky about whom you sleep with, or doing it with someone that you love/trust will decrease your change for catching a STD.

While generally that is true, there are many folks out there who do not know that they are carriers.


This is true...





There is no 100% solution, except not having sex. Sure there are ways that you can minimize your exposure. However, there is always a risk of catching a STD if you have sex.

Sushi

Also true. Sex is a tricky thing.

[sushi]

but there is no such thing as 100% safe sex concerning any std and even if there is a full on cure for AIDS in the future, it will never be a good idea to have unprotected intercourse because there are at least 200 std's out there which are considred common and some of those can kill you
A few years ago in Korea our Doc took a look at a soldier who had a problem. He didn't know what it was, but it was very nasty. As he explained, the fellow had holes in his penis and liguid was coming out of all of them.

The fellow in question was MEDEVAC'ed out.

Another fellow I know, had a brother who took a vacation to Tailand and ended up getting separated from the military due to medical complications resulting in catching a STD.

Personally, I think that if all males had to hear the scream and wimpers of a person who gets the scar tissue in their urethra tube (usually caused by an STD like gonorrhea) cleaned out without anesthesia, they would think serriously about ever having sex again!

Sushi

[sushi]

My bad, I didn't mean *you* specifically, but rather generically, as in all people.
Roger. No worries.

Sushi

[sethypoo]

you're talling a 20 year old male to stop having sex? are you nuts?

Oh, he's not nuts, he just is smart enough to keep his twig and giggleberries in his pants.

I'm in college. I love sex. But I'm not stupid enough to have sex with every girl I think is hot. :rolleyes:

If you don't want an STD, don't have sex! If you want to have sex, get tested, get your partner tested, and try to monogamous with your partner.

[blackfox]

Oh, he's not nuts, he just is smart enough to keep his twig and giggleberries in his pants.
Twig and giggleberries? Gotta remember that one...
I'm in college. I love sex. But I'm not stupid enough to have sex with every girl I think is hot. :rolleyes:
Very True...not that it much matters as most of those girls who I think are hot, are not interested in my giggleberries in the least...
If you don't want an STD, don't have sex! If you want to have sex, get tested, get your partner tested, and try to monogamous with your partner. Best you can do in this day and age...sweating waiting for test results is like a modern-day rite of passage...

[aricher]

A little college story... I had a friend who got syphilis from his roommate's girlfriend. He came down with the disease 2 weeks after his roommate did. He said, "I was sitting there studying, got up to go pee and, it was like pissing out HOT IRON FILINGS SUSPENDED IN BOILING OIL!"

Keep your pants on or at least use a condom in the future.

Oh yeah, syphilis untreated can cause madness and even death. Al Capone and Nietzsche both suffered from syphilis-related dementia.

[g30ffr3y]

i thought it was your friend :D

i caught that too, but didnt really wanna get involved in this arguement...


my advice... dont have sex with dirty whores...

[virividox]

well u wont know if a whore is dirty till u have sex with her ....

[jefhatfield]

A few years ago in Korea our Doc took a look at a soldier who had a problem. He didn't know what it was, but it was very nasty. As he explained, the fellow had holes in his penis and liguid was coming out of all of them.

The fellow in question was MEDEVAC'ed out.

Another fellow I know, had a brother who took a vacation to Tailand and ended up getting separated from the military due to medical complications resulting in catching a STD.

Personally, I think that if all males had to hear the scream and wimpers of a person who gets the scar tissue in their urethra tube (usually caused by an STD like gonorrhea) cleaned out without anesthesia, they would think serriously about ever having sex again!

Sushi

in the end, nothing will stop people, but safe sex makes more sense

unprotected sex, even to the point that it renders a woman poor and with a rack of kids who grow up to be bumping each other off with 9's in the ghetto will still not deter people from having unprotected sex

some feel that unwanted pregnancies, especially of young girls and women, is the single biggest problem america faces today...it is a direct cause of street and gang violence and takes more lives than terrorism and war in iraq combined

[sethypoo]

well u wont know if a whore is dirty till u have sex with her ....

I have heard you can tell by looking. :p ;) :cool: :D :o :mad: :( :p

[virividox]

HEHEHE looks can be deceiving, sometiems a girl may look clean but alas she isnt

[sushi]

my advice... dont have sex with dirty whores...
Good point.

But in some countries, the business women are very nice.

Sushi

[claytonbench]

Ever heard of abstinence? Just because you are a guy doesn't mean you can't be a slut. Have some respect for yourselves as humans people, please!

Thats exactly what i was thinking, very well said.

[Doctor Q]

Let's return to the thread topic as started by carbonmotion: medical information and advice about helping him deal with his roomie's friend's problem. Those interested in talking about government programs that deal with STDs are welcome to do so in a political thread.

[MrMacMan]

Well you could start by occasionally keeping your pants zipped, and not sticking your dick into every hole you find. I'm not expecting that everyone uses self-control until marriage, but based on general interest for one's own well-being, I would expect that they at least know where they are sticking it. Then again, people do smoke cigarettes enough to make a successful industry out of it.

Have you ever noticed that most of the terrible and disgusting and powerful diseases that afflict the human race are STDs? Makes you think twice before whoring yourself out to anything that will sleep with you. Or not, I guess.
Thank god there is no such thing as Buboes, smallpox, yellow fever, (flesh eating) ebola... ect.

[Didn't notice pseudobrit posting almost the same stuff... :rolleyes: ]

There is no 100% solution, except not having sex. Sure there are ways that you can minimize your exposure. However, there is always a risk of catching a STD if you have sex.

Sushi
No remember kids, while dating a girl, please go to the hospital, both get complete physicals, with blood and urine tests before moving anyway past holding hands. (wait... it might be risky, she might have that skin eating ebola! ahh! Run away from the other sex! No way -- Gay people! Run away from everyone!! *mass chaos*)


Look kiddies.

STD's are a serious issue many people have.

If you think something is wrong go see a doctor. If you have been involved with anyone recentally -- Its your responsibility to tell them.


Not everything can be prevented, duh you want to know the girl before making your move on her (or visa versa, but I've heard none of that in this thread so far), but your still not going to know about her history and such.


Use a rubber, its not a big deal.

[Neserk]

Twig and giggleberries.

should it be Jiggleberries?

Giggle is to laugh, Jiggle is to shake...

[Neserk]

Use a rubber, its not a big deal.

Hate 'em. But being in a monogamous relationship it isn't a problem...

[sushi]

Use a rubber, its not a big deal.
A simple rubber will not stop the transmission of all STDs.

Sushi

[caveman_uk]

Cervical Cancer for example is highly associated with 1 form Genital Herpes, I believe.
It's associated with a form of the Human Papilloma Virus not the Herpes Simplex Virus. HPV doesn't cause Herpes though people who have one often have the other. HPV infection is very common - there was a survey of young women at Washington State University a while back and around a third carried HPV. It's transmissible even if you use a condom as it can be spread by contact with erm...the surrounding areas...which aren't covered.

[Neserk]

It's associated with a form of the Human Papilloma Virus not the Herpes Simplex Virus. HPV doesn't cause Herpes though people who have one often have the other. HPV infection is very common - there was a survey of young women at Washington State University a while back and around a third carried HPV. It's transmissible even if you use a condom as it can be spread by contact with erm...the surrounding areas...which aren't covered.

Thanks!

[MrMacMan]

A simple rubber will not stop the transmission of all STDs.

Sushi
Well yes it does.

I mean unless your diease attached a spear the then end of you penis that breaks the condom when you put it on.

(But so far I haven't heard of that diease so I doubt it will affect you)

Hate 'em. But being in a monogamous relationship it isn't a problem...
But we aren't talking with one sexual partnet who you know very well and know they Don't have STD's

We are mostly talking about college students... as was the topic of this thread.

[Neserk]

We are mostly talking about college students... as was the topic of this thread.

Monogamy works at any age.. as does abstinence...

The topic of the thread was STD's. Check out the title ;)

[blackfox]

should it be Jiggleberries?

Giggle is to laugh, Jiggle is to shake...
Good point, but as I gleamed the words from another post, I don't know what the logic behind them is...gotta love slang...
(The ironic thing is that girls do seem laugh at mine...)

[sushi]

Well yes it does.
Uh, no a condom does not.

A condom only covers a small part of the male genitilia. You can be still be infected on the non covered portions, or if there are defects in the rubber, you misshandle it, don't put it on correctly, having genital contact prior to putting it on -- directly or indirectly via mouth, finger, etc.

Also, there are many kinds of rubbers and not all are the same.

I would humbly suggest that you do some reading on the subject before saying such inaccurate statements.

Bottom line is that condoms do not stop the spread of STDs 100% To believe that, one is being foolish and not realistic.

Sushi

[jxyama]

carbonmotion:

you are from U of M, right? tell your friend to go see someone at UHS immediately. and try to bring the girl along as well - or at least tell her to go see someone ASAP on her own. there's no shame in this. catching STD is not something to be ashamed of, but denying it and not dealing it would be.

like paul said, we all do stupid things - some get unlucky and your friend happend to be one of those. staff at UHS will not pass judgement on your friend. he will not be lectured on how it's important to use condoms or know the sexual history of the partner. it's a fact of life. it's scary and it's easy to try to deny but he will feel much, much better once he starts dealing with the reality in concrete and effective way.

good luck, and tell him to hurry. time is of essence here...