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MongoTheGeek
Apr 25, 2004, 10:21 PM
Today there was a sizable protest in Washington DC supporting Abortion.
This was also the WalkAmerica day for the March of Dimes,.
stoid
Apr 25, 2004, 10:31 PM
One of my pet peeves. This is not ironic that these two groups would be marching on the same day. It is a coincidence. Now, if a person intended to walk in one protest, and wound up accidentally holding a sign and marching for the other, that would be closer to irony.
Dros
Apr 25, 2004, 10:39 PM
One group wants to raise money to save babies, and the other wants the right to kill them. How is that ironic?
The juxtaposition of the two events is not ironic. What would be ironic would be if someone with your interpretation of the goals of the events accidently joined the pro-choice rally when they meant to go to the WalkAmerica event. This reversal of expectations would be irony.
rats. Can I really be 8 minutes later than Stoid? That is what I get for opening the thread and then reading another before posting a reply.
MongoTheGeek
Apr 25, 2004, 10:44 PM
One of my pet peeves. This is not ironic that these two groups would be marching on the same day. It is a coincidence. Now, if a person intended to walk in one protest, and wound up accidentally holding a sign and marching for the other, that would be closer to irony.
Picking a day to try and get everyone rallied around a cause that for 50 years has stood for something that is almost the opposite. The lack of planning ahead to pick the wrong day.
evil
Apr 25, 2004, 11:01 PM
The juxtaposition of the two events is not ironic. What would be ironic would be if someone with your interpretation of the goals of the events accidently joined the pro-choice rally when they meant to go to the WalkAmerica event. This reversal of expectations would be irony.
rats. Can I really be 8 minutes later than Stoid? That is what I get for opening the thread and then reading another before posting a reply.
it is ironic when one person posts practically the same thing as another person only 8 minutes apart.
wait. err. is that a coincidence?
PlaceofDis
Apr 26, 2004, 12:25 AM
definately not irony, but pure stupidity that these events were planned on the same day, or maybe even purposefully to draw more attention to one another, its a difficult situation these two organizations are taking extreme sides on, come to a compromise in some middle ground and we might get somewhere, thats all im going to say about that....
stoid
Apr 26, 2004, 12:35 AM
it is ironic when one person posts practically the same thing as another person only 8 minutes apart.
wait. err. is that a coincidence?
yep, that's coincidence again ;)
MongoTheGeek
Apr 26, 2004, 07:08 AM
definately not irony, but pure stupidity that these events were planned on the same day, or maybe even purposefully to draw more attention to one another, its a difficult situation these two organizations are taking extreme sides on, come to a compromise in some middle ground and we might get somewhere, thats all im going to say about that....
They aren't diametrically opposed as I don't think the March of Dimes has a stance on abortion.
Looking up the definition of Irony I get the first one as
irony
\I"ron*y\, a. [From Iron.] 1. Made or consisting of iron; partaking of iron; iron; as, irony chains; irony particles. [R.]
Not apropos to this discussion. further down in Sherlock I got...
irony
n 1: witty language used to convey insults or scorn; "he used sarcasm to upset his opponent"; "irony is wasted on the stupid" [syn: sarcasm, satire, caustic remark] 2: incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: "the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated" 3: a trope that involves incongruity between what is expected and what occurs
This is definitely a difference between expected and actual.
Gaz
Apr 26, 2004, 11:28 AM
...It's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife...
Dippo
Apr 26, 2004, 11:57 AM
...It's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife...
Yes, the biggest misuse of the word ironic that has ever been!
pooky
Apr 26, 2004, 12:29 PM
Yes, the biggest misuse of the word ironic that has ever been!
What's truly ironic is that she intended the song to be about irony, but it instead represents other non-ironic situations.
But maybe it was intentional, and that's where she got the title. Would it then be ironic that we all assume she's an idiot, when really she's using a clever play on words?
zimv20
Apr 26, 2004, 12:35 PM
What's truly ironic is that she intended the song to be about irony, but it instead represents other non-ironic situations.
as a friend of mine would say after every line, "that's not ironic -- that just sucks"
3rdpath
Apr 26, 2004, 03:34 PM
isn't it moronic, don't cha think?
numediaman
Apr 27, 2004, 10:10 AM
Does this qualify as "irony"?
What's particularly ironic is that "we're facing an enemy" that actually shares Bush's views on abortion:
"All abortions were banned under the fundamentalist Islamic rule of the Taliban militia from 1996-2001." - Agence France-Presse quoted in the Tehran Times
Even funnier, it's the Bush administration's intervention into Afghanistan that has now made some abortions legal in that country - oops:
"Abortion up to the third month of pregnancy is legal again for Afghan women if their health is in danger, but after that they risk six months jail if they turn to backstreet abortionists."
-- AmericaBlog
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