This place is scary [Archive]

Everlast

Apr 27, 2009, 10:53 PM

Well, as a newcomer to the Mac most famous community. After reading the forum here for a few months, I discovered that if someone says something negative about Microsoft in here, they will gets burn by a heap of active members, clearly it's not allow to express how bad you feel about the MS products and its company.

I thought it's a Mac community, people should able to be freely discuss what they feel, but whenever you said something against MS, loads of attack will come toward you.

Perhaps, I missed the sign somewhere here in forum, stating "Be warned, Any negative comment on Microsoft will be shot!"

Okay, feel free to throw the rocks inside your pocket, aim that defenceless villager who that think Mac is better than Windows PC.

Anyone would be kind enough to direct me to a forum that can freely express the feeling Mac against Windows? A place that have less insult and attacks, Thanks.

EricNau

Apr 27, 2009, 10:56 PM

Please, if you see any personal attacks or insults report them to the moderators using the report post button (http://images.macrumors.com/vb/images/buttons/report.gif) to the left of every post.

Attacks and insults are against forum rules and are not tolerated.

MacDawg

Apr 27, 2009, 10:57 PM

A little sensitive are we?

People are just expressing their opinion too
But I have to say, I haven't seen too much defending of M$ going on here
Check out the threads on Office 2008

This board is eclectic... and not just homers for Apple

Feel free to voice your opinion, but be prepared to defend it with reason and data, because you will get challenged on it. Just saying "yay Apple/Mac" won't cut it here... too much diversity

Edit: Good advice too EricNau

Woof, Woof - Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif

alexbates

Apr 27, 2009, 10:57 PM

Less attacks on MS... not going to happen. More funny attacks if you haven't already seen it.... right here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v3KCAJwJK8

opeter

Apr 28, 2009, 06:05 AM

Anyone would be kind enough to direct me to a forum that can freely express the feeling Mac against Windows? A place that have less insult and attacks, Thanks.

Humm... you have some serious problems, aren't you?

Most people (thank God) try to be objective, as they can be.

MS has so much better pointing hardware (aka mices, keyboards) than Apple, currently. And since these stuff have USBs (the same goes for every other company, like Logitech etc.) and works with every Mac, it is good to know, that there is an alternative.

instaxgirl

Apr 28, 2009, 06:45 AM

Less attacks on MS... not going to happen

The OP's talking about not being able to attack MS without someone ruining his fun. Life's tough, but I don't get why this place is "scary". It's the internet, part of the fun is the debate.

allmIne

Apr 28, 2009, 07:43 AM

Wait a second...

I thought these days we had to be careful of people attacking Apple on this board!? No? It's certainly the trend I'm seeing.

angelwatt

Apr 28, 2009, 08:57 AM

I can't say I've noticed much of this yelling at people for bashing MS. I mostly hang in the web design/development forum where IE gets bashed from time to time and I will defend it at times (if the bashing is baseless), but by using facts, not by just bashing back.

Bashing in general is pretty lame unless you're bringing along some facts and a rationale discussion, otherwise it just turns into a junk thread, which unfortunately happens from time-to-time here.

Consultant

Apr 28, 2009, 09:02 AM

Well as there are trolls on any forum, unfortunately MR has its MS trolls too.

chewietobbacca

Apr 29, 2009, 12:05 AM

Well as there are trolls on any forum, unfortunately MR has its MS trolls too.

What, you're an MS troll if you defend some thing about MS?

Anyways to the OP: the point of this forum isn't to bash MS for the sake of bashing MS - yes, people do use both products from both sides(boot camp anyone?) and if you're here just to throw rhetoric around, then people will not appreciate it, regardless of how they feel about MS.

Constructive and civilized arguments are fine. Spewing rhetoric however, would just piss people off, and that reaction shouldn't come as a surprise no matter where you go on the itnernet

Ibjr

May 3, 2009, 10:00 AM

What, you're an MS troll if you defend some thing about MS?

Anyways to the OP: the point of this forum isn't to bash MS for the sake of bashing MS - yes, people do use both products from both sides(boot camp anyone?) and if you're here just to throw rhetoric around, then people will not appreciate it, regardless of how they feel about MS.

Constructive and civilized arguments are fine. Spewing rhetoric however, would just piss people off, and that reaction shouldn't come as a surprise no matter where you go on the itnernet

I've been flamed a lot more for defending MS than for saying bad things about it.

r.j.s

May 3, 2009, 10:17 AM

What, you're an MS troll if you defend some thing about MS?

No. MS does make some decent products, but there are some users here that bash Apple and every chance and spout how superior they think Windows is in every way.

eRondeau

May 3, 2009, 10:30 AM

MS does make some decent products...

Their keyboards are okay.

Eraserhead

May 3, 2009, 05:05 PM

Their keyboards are okay.

Office 2007 for Windows and their server stuff are pretty nice too.

Eyedn

May 5, 2009, 08:25 PM

Office 2007 for Windows and their server stuff are pretty nice too.

Are you feeling ok? Perhaps it's the ribbon.

r.j.s

May 5, 2009, 08:41 PM

Are you feeling ok? Perhaps it's the ribbon.

The ribbon beats the pants off the old way of hiding features in Advanced buttons of dialogue boxes. It takes some getting used to, but it's a good idea.

t0mat0

May 5, 2009, 08:46 PM

The ribbon beats the pants off the old way of hiding features in Advanced buttons of dialogue boxes. It takes some getting used to, but it's a good idea.

Isn't the initial problem the lack of a ribbon guide to show you where things are? I'm thinking in comparison to a search on a Mac, for a certain feature - you type it in, and it'll show you where it is in the pull down menus.

If there was better help to point out where the features had moved to, it might make more sense perhaps?

r.j.s

May 5, 2009, 08:53 PM

Isn't the initial problem the lack of a ribbon guide to show you where things are? I'm thinking in comparison to a search on a Mac, for a certain feature - you type it in, and it'll show you where it is in the pull down menus.

If there was better help to point out where the features had moved to, it might make more sense perhaps?

It's hard to learn, and MS didn't make the transition easy or smooth, but once you figure it out ...

Dan--

May 6, 2009, 02:28 PM

It's hard to learn, and MS didn't make the transition easy or smooth, but once you figure it out ...

I've been using Office 2007 for a week now, and all I can say is...

... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I am not a fan.)

Dan

Eraserhead

May 6, 2009, 04:56 PM

The ribbon beats the pants off the old way of hiding features in Advanced buttons of dialogue boxes. It takes some getting used to, but it's a good idea.

Exactly my view. It works really well.

The only problem is that it doesn't really fit in on XP as well as Safari 4 does for example.

CarlisleUnited

May 6, 2009, 05:00 PM

I've been using Office 2007 for a week now, and all I can say is...

... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I am not a fan.)

Dan

I bought XP and Office 2003 just so I didn't have to use Office 2007 lol, I can't stand it, making decent graphs for my dissertation was impossible in 2007, they ended up looking more like cartoons than anything

t0mat0

May 6, 2009, 08:21 PM

It's hard to learn, and MS didn't make the transition easy or smooth, but once you figure it out ...

Is a tough one - how to manage more complex or less often used settings you want to make available to users, without overwheleming people.
iPhone is a great example - how to manage the opposite needs of different users - (customisation and powerusage vs simplicity and ease)

sushi

May 6, 2009, 09:19 PM

making decent graphs for my dissertation was impossible in 2007, they ended up looking more like cartoons than anything
I'm confused by your statement.

You can create the same type of charts that you did with PowerPoint 2003.

jav6454

May 6, 2009, 11:07 PM

Well ... snip ... Thanks

Well, you think this now. Wait till you have seen arn and DoctorQ due their daily minuet at 4:42 PM.

http://www.streetswing.com/histmain/histitl/8minuet1.gif

CarlisleUnited

May 7, 2009, 03:38 AM

I'm confused by your statement.

You can create the same type of charts that you did with PowerPoint 2003.

Chart as in Graph, in Excel 2007 they made them too fancy

sushi

May 7, 2009, 04:28 AM

Chart as in Graph, in Excel 2007 they made them too fancy
Interesting.

I haven't dabble that much with Excel 2007 graphs, but I thought that you can create the same types of charts as in Excel 2003. Just some different steps to do so.

DoFoT9

May 7, 2009, 04:33 AM

welcome Everlast! this place can be a bit daunting. there are many many different opinions going around, you keep to yours and voice them how you feel. thats what a forum is..

just have some fun and hopefully learn a thing or two, i know i have :)

dernhelm

May 7, 2009, 05:36 AM

The ribbon beats the pants off the old way of hiding features in Advanced buttons of dialogue boxes. It takes some getting used to, but it's a good idea.

Stuffs hidden in the ribbon too. It took me 10 minutes the other day to figure out how to add an "# pages" link in my footer. I could get the current page number, but the ribbon didn't make it obvious how to add "# pages" right next to it.

I myself can't understand why anyone would want the little round circle with the windows thingy in it for some features, and the rest buried in some rectangular "ribbon". Where's the triangle-shaped button? Seems like you ought to have one.

The other problem is that I spend forever hovering over ribbon bar tooltips looking for some feature that I'm certain is there, but I simply cannot locate.