Animal Activist placed on FBI's Most Wanted Terrorist List

"There were no injuries"

This bloke is a hero. Courage of his convictions .. admirable.

Vivisect the vivisectors.

At least this bloke is on the list for a serious act. In Europe, laws introduced as anti terrorism legislation are being used against climate protesters, trade unionists etc who have often done nothing except actively campaigned against government policy. From the states viewpoint, at least placing him on this list is rational. Although I hope he has an obscure but happy life free from les flics.

Henri Gaudier said:

Vivisect the vivisectors.

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Interesting notion. Did you know one of the prime movers and shakers in PETA uses drugs that were heavily tested on animals to stay alive?

Iscariot said:

Interesting notion. Did you know one of the prime movers and shakers in PETA uses drugs that were heavily tested on animals to stay alive?

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To be concerned about the interests of animals doesn't require you to lay down your own life in order to be consistent. If you're confused about this check out Peter Singer's book Animal Liberation.

No .. I didn't and I think it's immaterial. The real question is that if it were possible to bring about the end of animal testing and live or die by the consequence of that .. would you? My answer is an unequivocal "Yes!" Chance may decree that it was to the betterment of medicine ... you never know. The change in emphasis, process ... could .. ultimately have been the right tack to the desired end. If the science exists ... by whatever origin .. you'd be daft not to use it. The Nazi's were prolific in every field ... who examines or questions if the engine in the aeroplane taking them on vacation is from a disreputable source ... from a design by Braun? Or the life saving operation is rooted in some nightmare from Mengele? The Nazis ... love 'em or hate 'em .. were whizzes in so many areas and their legacy .. almost invisible today .. nevertheless lives on in our every day lives. Whatever is in the present ... if it can help ... from whatever origin .. has to be used.

I think we'd all turn to cannibalism to survive ... the bloke from PETA you mentioned ... is just there before us. Making a hard choices. Your remark lacks compassion ... it's a bit like picking on a Christian because he chose to have a pudding rather than sending it to Ethiopia or somewhere. Let's all just do our best.

Btw .. I once wrote to PETA asking for help in finding a Vegan recipe for a medicine I'd been prescribed ... they blanked me! But I think their heart is in the right place. My cats are asleep in their baskets .. in front of the stove tonight. I'm full of Pastis. None of us in the lab. Another victory.

This person is a common terrorist.

Nothing new. Federal authorities have been keeping close watch known terrorist organizations suach as the ELF and the ALF for years.

Pursuing their goals they choose violence and terror over diplomacy and legislative processes. Fundamentally they are no different than Osama Bin laden and his kool-aid swilling lemmings.

Best regards,
Enemy of the enemy within.

philosopherdog said:

To be concerned about the interests of animals doesn't require you to lay down your own life in order to be consistent. If you're confused about this check out Peter Singer's book Animal Liberation.

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Advocating a complete end to vivisection and personally profiting from it are not consistent viewpoints.

Henri Gaudier said:

No .. I didn't and I think it's immaterial.

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It's not immaterial that an organization advocates action it's not willing to take.

Henri Gaudier said:

Your remark lacks compassion ... it's a bit like picking on a Christian because he chose to have a pudding rather than sending it to Ethiopia or somewhere. Let's all just do our best.

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My comment doesn't lack compassion. I am glad that she has profited from medical science and is still alive today. Her comments lack conviction, and her actions betray her ideals. When you are unwilling to live by the moral code you espouse as correct, you need to rethink it or at the very least stop evangelizing it. Her, others like her, and Daniel Andreas San Diego and people like him only serve to damage real animal rights efforts and legitimize the scorn with which people who believe in animal rights are treated.